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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, Trump says, give negotiations one last chance before
the United States formally enters the war. I'm not saying
he's made a decision, but he says he's going to
get tick two weeks. But he wants there's a substantial chance,
as he put it, for a deal with the Mullahs.

(00:20):
He wants to give it that chance. Agree, disagree, six
one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight Maryland
in Norwood, Thanks for holding Maryland, and welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Good morning, Jeff. I'm not sure how widely known this
is to the public at large, because sadly, our news
media tends to emphasize what I would call trivia or misinformation.
But in twenty twenty three, the University of Technology, Sydney,

(00:57):
specifically August ninth, twenty three, produced a report that Iran
has the world's second largest lithium deposits. So right now
China is dependent upon Chile and other countries for the

(01:19):
lithium extraction, which then is sent to China where it's refined.
So I would say, if I could sit down with
President Trump, I would say to him, mister President, here
is the opportunity of a lifetime. The US and many
other countries of the world. Advanced countries of the world

(01:42):
need to extricate themselves from dependence on China for lithium,
which is process lithium, which is now controlling or influencing
the world market in terms of pricing. So the best
way to bring peace East to the Middle East is
through a collaboration with Iran to develop that market. And

(02:10):
this documentation is also known to the US Army. Because
I verified what I had read on the University of
Technology Sydney's website, I was able to locate a I'm
going to tell you precisely what it is, so it
is now known by the US government. But because we're

(02:32):
so it was such a big behemoth. I think that
you have all these specialized people here, there and everywhere,
and a lot of times critical information is not really shared.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Right, No, Maryland, You're absolutely right. Look, Iran, besides its
vast oil and natural gas, and you mentioned the lithium,
Iran has I mean just almost an infinite amount of
natural resources. It is resource rich, and to be honest,
that's why the Chinese are backing the Iranians, because they

(03:07):
want to plunder that country. That's what they want. They
want to suck a dry, by the way, like they're
sucking Afghanistan dry. And so one of the big stories
over the last forty eight hours is that Chinese transport
planes have been seen landing in Tehran, and Xi Jinping

(03:27):
has told Israel these planes are going. We're not telling
you why or what they're what's in them, but you
better not shoot any of them down. You shoot one
of those planes down, you're at war with China, and
you don't want to be at war with us. So
what are the Chinese doing there? We don't know. What
are they supplying the Mullahs with, We don't know, what

(03:48):
are they taking out of the country. We don't know.
But there's no question that even more than Russia, China
now has become really the big protector and guaranteur of Iran.
Iran is effectively a client state of China. And so

(04:10):
this is another Things are happening so fast that it's
hard to process everything. But what Israel is doing now,
obviously with US helping them every step of the way,
is they're reshaping the Middle East, and they're possibly reshaping
the world. If Iran falls. What I mean by if Iran,

(04:32):
if the Mullas fall, if they lose power, this is
a massive blow to China and Russia and to Pakistan
as well. It is a especially to China. It is
a massive, massive, massive blow. There's no question about it.
They will have lost one of their top client states.

(04:55):
And that's why the fight's going to be on for
what kind of a government replaces the Mullus And what
is scaring Trump And he's right to be worried about
this because it's scaring everybody in his team is if
Iran descends into pure anarchy, civil war and chaos, that's

(05:15):
the one thing you don't want, because then you're gonna
have Isis on steroids with nuclear components and shattered nuclear
facilities and enrichment sites and centrifuges littered all around the country.
So that's why, you know, everyone's saying, well, why doesn't

(05:37):
Trump just jump in, Why don't you just jump in?
Because he's looking at the global chess board, you know,
expression three D chess. He's he's playing three D chess
and so far again, fingers crossed, He's kept China at bay,
contained him for the most part. He's kept Russia and

(05:59):
pac Stan at bay. The entire Muslim Middle East is
quiet and Israel is rolling them. Now, think about it.
The second the United States jumps in, and I know,
from our domestic point of view, we're saying, well, we
just want to hammer four dough, We just want to
annihilate and decimate four do It doesn't matter China. The

(06:24):
world will say, well, where's China. It's one thing for
Israel and Iran to fight it out, because that's a
proxy war. This is a proxy war now between the
United States and China. Okay, and to a lesser extent,
Russia allied with China. But this is now a proxy war. Now.
A proxy war is always a proxy war. Fine, you

(06:47):
don't get involved. We don't get involved, and you know
our proxies are fighting, so it's all fine. But the
moment we make the official declaration that we're in China
is the world's gonna look to China and say, and
your proxy now is being ganged up on by the
great Satan, the United States and the little Satan now Israel,

(07:09):
and you're just gonna let them fall. So Trump is
looking at this and saying, why I jump in? China
now may respond, Russia may respond, The Muslim Middle East
may be inflamed. Six one seven two six, six sixty
eight sixty eight is the number. Okay. Uh Jim messaged

(07:32):
me maybe about five seven minutes ago, and uh, Jim,
you're a genius. That's all I'm telling you right now.
You're a genius. So, because you and I are so
simpatico on this, here's what Jim wrote to me on Messenger,
let me throw this log on the fire, Jeff, is
it possible that the United States needs two weeks to

(07:56):
get those bunker busters and those bombers to Israel? Dingo? Dingo.
That's exactly what I thought when they came out with
that statement that Trump wants to give himself another two
weeks before he makes a final final decision on whether
the United States will strike or bomb Iran. I'm thinking

(08:20):
two weeks. Wow, Okay, plenty of time to send over
our bunker busters. Day Israel. Send in the stealth b
two bombers. Train the Israeli pilots. I mean, they're excellent pilots,
but they have to be trained on these stealth bombers
and say okay, guys, now you got everything that you

(08:45):
need and shallom you know, happy, happy hunting. So again,
I don't have any inside knowledge, but that's exct. You
and I are on the same page, Jim. I think
there's no question now he wants to give Israel every tool,

(09:06):
every weapon, every ability now to deliver a final knockout blow.
And two weeks the way the Israeli air force is
now proceeding at it's at this lightning speed, with this
level of effectiveness, two weeks is enough time to give
him these bunker busters, these thirty thousand pound bombs, these

(09:29):
massive ordinances. Send in these stealth bombers, give them some training,
and guys take out four dough and this thing is over.
Six one seven two six, six sixty eight sixty eight agree, disagree.
Jack in Tewkesbury, thanks for holding Jack, and welcome.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Good morning, Jeff Hijack. This not the epitome? Is this
not the epitome of a Pandora's box?

Speaker 1 (10:01):
You mean now or if we go in.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Just now just to just just just just terrify to
open that box, because we don't know what's going to happen,
how this is going to end up. And I think
Jack Trump's waiting.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
On the Jack, I promise I'll give you all the
time to finish your point. I promise Trump's people are listening.
I'm telling you they've been listening all week, and they're
worried about influencers. Not worried, but they want to know
what influencers like me others think, what our audiences think.
So if you know you have their ear, Now, what

(10:36):
would you tell President Trump it's a Pandora's box. He's
about to open it or should he leave it closed?
Should he open it? What would be your advice to him?
Right now? Jack?

Speaker 3 (10:49):
I like your I like your reference of giving himself
ball run away. There's no need to rush into this.
Israelis are doing a great job. They're more than capable
of taking care of themselves. They've proved it many times
thout history, and they've definitely proved it by that the
pager when they took out a bunch of leaders with
all those pages they had given out. They waited years

(11:11):
for these things for that operation to take hold. And
they've also set up the drones and I ran to
strike before the jets flew in. They're more than capable
of hailing themselves, and I think Trump knows that too.
I think Trump is waiting on the intelligence community to
figure out have they got this right, because he does
not want another weapons of mass destruction fiasco. He said

(11:35):
it in his first campaign when he hammered Jeb Bush.
They was the biggest mistake we ever did was going
to racket destabilize his Middle East. He does not want
to be that guy that destabilizes it once again by
taking down Iran and creating a whole Pandora's box when
everything goes to hell.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Jim On, Sorry, Jock, forgive me. Jack. I couldn't have
said it better myself. And I have to tell you
I'm just guessing now, but I suspect that Trump's people
who are listening are just nodding their head up and down.
I think you hit the name right on the head,
right on the head, Jack, Thank you very much for

(12:14):
that call. Really smart call six one seven two six
six sixty eight sixty eight again, agree, disagree again. I
want to ask the question to those of you because
you know, this is Cooner country. So this is a
voice for everybody who's a Trump supporter, a MAGA conservative
America first, so I want to hear all points of view.

(12:36):
I want it's like a family. You know, you're at
the dinner table. Everybody gets to say, everybody gets their say.
To those of you that want Trump to pull the
proverbial trigger and launch a bombing campaign and take out
four dough and really just take out all of these

(12:58):
nuclear facilities, are you disappointed that he's pumped to the
brakes and said no decision will be made for two
weeks and that he wants to give negotiations one more chance.
Do you think he blinked or are you are you
able to live with this or do you think he's

(13:20):
missed now maybe a once in a century lifetime with
all the momentum that he could have gone in with
Israel and maybe even taken out the Mullahs, taking out
the nuclear weapons program, the whole kit and kaboodle. Are
you disappointed in his decision? I'm just curious. I want

(13:40):
to hear from you. Six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight Mark in New Hampshire. Thanks for
holding Mark, and welcome buddy, Mark. How are you my friend?

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Good?

Speaker 5 (13:56):
Hey?

Speaker 6 (13:56):
Listen, you know I applaud Israel for what they're doing.
I think it's long overdue. I don't have a problem
at all of it.

Speaker 7 (14:07):
My issue is.

Speaker 6 (14:07):
This, though, I really I you're going in there. If
we learned anything from Afghanistan, you can't just roll in
and take these people out. You know, we went into
Afghanistan against the Taliban, no fighter jets, no helicopters, no tanks,

(14:28):
no navy, you know, not an organized army. Right. If
you think we could just roll into Iran and police
the streets, it's not gonna happen. Let's say even half
the population still supports the Mullahs. You're talking about forty
six million people who are willing to die, strap up

(14:49):
onto their chests and blow themselves up in the name
of their faith. Okay, that's forty six million fighters. You're
not gonna stop that. You'll be mired and another twenty
five year war with the hopes that maybe we can
convince enough people to rise up. You know we It
didn't happen in Afghanistan, and it's not going to happen here. Truthfully,

(15:11):
I think the only thing, what the best thing Trump
should do. Yeah, keep working toward towards some kind of
a peace deal. But in the meantime, I think that
that the Shah's son, this prince, he should be reaching
out to the military leaders below the Malas and telling
them look, take over the country, take Tamala's out, overthrow them.

(15:32):
The military can rule the country for now and will
work towards a better nation. You know, if they can
turn the military against the Malas, I think that's a
win win and that will, you know, prevent the US
from having to do anything. But in the meantime, Israel
just keep pounding the snots autom.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Mark. I think it's I think it's an absolutely brilliant analysis.
I got to tell you. And you know, the Crown
Prince has reached out. He he says that the Iranian
regime is now falling. He says it's pretty much over.
He's urging people to rise up. He's trying to reach
out exactly what you're doing and what you're suggesting and
have a transitional government. He said He's willing to be

(16:15):
the figurehead. He said, We'll never return to an autocratic
monarchy that goes those days are long gone. I'll be
a transitional figure to national elections in three or four months.
But yeah, the military should step in overthrow the Mullahs
along with the people. Six one seven two, six, six,

(16:36):
sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Joe In Lynn,
thanks for holding.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Joe and welcome, Hi Jeliah.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
I'm good. How are you, Joe? Joe? It sounds like
you got mail, Joe, you know, like, Joe, are you there?

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah? I had to get you off to speak of Jeff.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
All right, go ahead, Joe, go ahead, my friend, Jeff.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
I think this man has earned a trust. I would
have been good at the bomb last night.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
I'm good with him.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Wait in two weeks, what this man has put up with?
I mean taking a bullet for us. He hasn't broken
any of his promises to us.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
I think we always want to give him the leeway.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Joe. I'm just curious. Do you think that the Mullas
will agree to a negotiated settlement? Do you think, in
other words, you know, Trump says he believes there's a
substantial chance that we could have a peace negotiation, a deal.
Do you think the Mullas will sign a deal with

(17:49):
all of this pressure now on him, with Israel just
bombing him to the stone age, with their military now
getting decimated, do you think that they're gonna sign or
do you think they're just almost like Hitler and the Bunker,
They're just gonna stay and ride this thing out to
the bitter end.

Speaker 8 (18:10):
No, Jeff, different attics.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
They're gonna stay and ride this out to the bitter end.
And he's he eventually he's gonna.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Have to do what he has to do.

Speaker 6 (18:18):
And uh, I'm good with that.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
I mean, we got we.

Speaker 6 (18:22):
We can't allow them to have a nuclear weapon because
they're gonna use it on Israel and if they have
the opportunity, they're gonna use it on us.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Joe, thank you very much for that call. I really
appreciate it. Six one seven two six six sixty eight
sixty eight. Joe says he trusts Trump. Uh, he hasn't
lied to us. He's kept all of his promises. He's
earned that trust. And uh, look two weeks is not
gonna kill us, so you know, And he says, look,

(18:51):
ultimately Trump's instincts are completely right. Iron must not be
allowed to get the bomb. They'll use it on Israel
and if they can, they'll use it on us. Agree, disagree?
Nick in Weymouth, Thanks for holding Nick and welcome.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
How you doing Jeff, Nick? Hey, thanks brother, I'm doing great. Yes,
it was my birthday, so I'm feeling pretty good.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
I'm pretty happy birthday. Nick.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
I needed that. Thank you anyway, Jeff, you're a history man.
I know you're a history man, right, that's what you did, right, Yes,
so in your early advocation. So what does history do? Well,
let me think, what does history not do when you
don't teach it? I remember in the sixties, because of

(19:42):
my ancient age, that history as a subject became known
as social studies. Isn't that interesting? Social studies? I went
to a Catholic school, situation grammar school, high school, call
a lot of Jesuits in there, a lot of nuns

(20:03):
in there. I appreciate the nuns, by the way, immensely.
And the history was what, well, we're in North America.
We had indigenous people, as they say, who came from
probably fire East Asia or something like that. But we
also had other people coming here. Where did they come from?

(20:23):
Primarily Europe? So we studied, firstly, especially in high school, uh,
western civilization history. Why we're Western civilization, We're not Far Eastern,
We're not African, et cetera, et cetera. That's what you study,
how did you become what you became? And in doing
so you see what global domination always ever was right

(20:48):
even with if you went back to ancient Greece, Ancient Rome,
et cetera, which I learned in high school because you're,
you know, studying and learning Latin Greek, et cetera. You
learn it's all about power. Like we always say, like
the Democrats they want the power. Crooked Republican politicians they
want the power. So this thing here, China is to

(21:14):
Iran as Iran has been to Hezballah and Hamas. Okay,
they're the benefactor. Is that the drones that they have, right,
the rocketry they have that came from China. Huloli of
the way stole it from the United States during Clinton's administration.
Who let it happen? Eight aerospace industries all got fined.

(21:35):
Nobody went to jail. That's like Hues aircraft learning space, Boeing,
et cetera, et cetera. Just slaps on the wrists. Same
thing with the world's largest banks. So when Trump gives
a final address, not that anybody pays attention to, and
as I always recommend, look at Eisenhowers. He not only
told you about the industrial complex, he told you about

(21:57):
the elite from the college level, et cetera. What he
absorbed tons of money from the United States, which drives
what they do. Okay, so that what you got to
learn with the most most pression thing that he should
say in his final address, watch out who you vote for?
What happened recently with a ran We know it was

(22:18):
the Obama remnistation. We know it was the Biden administration.
We know it was a politicians that let that happen.
And I guess that's the biggest thing we can let.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
You're dead on, absolutely dead on words of wisdom from
a man who celebrated his birthday yesterday and obviously has
seen a lot of politics and history over the last
sixty plus years, sixty five years whatever, you're dead on. Look,
there's no question, there's no question the reason why we're
in this mess, and it's a mess is because of

(22:49):
three Democrats. Let's be crystal clear. Jimmy Carter dot buffoon
who pulled the plug on the shawl to meet to
his eternal disgrace. Whatever you think about the shaw he
was infinitely better for the Iranian people, for the Middle East,
for America, for the world than these Islamist seventh century

(23:12):
savages that have been running that country now for the
last what is it forty five, forty six years. Number two,
Barack Hussein Obama, who gave the Mullahs billions of dollars,
billions of dollars that they used to build up their
nuclear weapons program, that they used to fund and support

(23:37):
Hamas has Bellah Bashar Assad in Syria, the Huthis in Yemen.
So their entire terrorist proxy army was funded by the
money we gave to the Mullus. And of course that
that that that vegetable Joey Joe Biden, who gave them

(24:00):
billions and billions and billions of dollars more, and that's
why they had the money, the funding to now come
to the cusp of a nuclear bomb that, honestly, if
we don't take care of, is going to be the
end of the Middle East as we know it. Because
the one thing liberals do not understand is that Israel,

(24:24):
having suffered one holocaust, will never accept a second holocaust.
They will never go quietly into the gas ovens again. Now,
what the media doesn't tell you is that Israel has
at least one hundred, if not two hundred nuclear missiles
with warheads. So when Iran gets the bomb, they won't now.

(24:50):
But if they do ever get the bomb and they're
gonna use it. Israel's gonna fire back. It's going to
be a nuclear war. And as Trump rightly said, it's
not just Israel that'll be destroyed, and it's not just
Iran that'll be destroyed, it's all of the other countries
in between. And then never mind the damage to the environment,

(25:12):
into the atmosphere. So, to be brutally honest with you,
I blame the Democrats. I blame liberals who voted for Carter,
who voted for Obama, who voted for that vegetable Joe Biden,
because they have brought the world now to this point.

(25:33):
And again, what is Trump doing. He's just cleaning up
their mess. Whether it's the open border, whether it's the
illegals that Biden allowed to pour into our country, whether
it's the damage to our economy, whether it's inflation, whether
it's crime, whether it's the Russia Ukraine war, whether it's
now this mess with Iran and the Mullahs potentially now

(25:57):
being on the brink of a nuclear weapon, and clearly
the rise of China the right, You're right, all of
the technology that China has, they're sophisticated military technology they
stole from us and then they handed it to the Mullus, who,

(26:17):
by the way, then handed a lot of it to
the Russians. And so that's that's what we've done by
empowering the communist Chinese again a disaster of the last
twenty five years. And you have these idiot liberals who
are like, I want to buy my ten dollars sneakers

(26:41):
for full I care about. Yeah, you're an idiot. Seriously,
you're an idiot. Six one seven two six, six sixty
eight sixty eight is the number. Okay, eight o'clock, you
know what that means. Kooner's call log, Collar of though.

Speaker 9 (27:00):
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Speaker 1 (27:11):
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Speaker 10 (27:15):
Have you ever lived in a neighborhood where you have
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annoying in the other neighbors just so sick of it,
whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
It's funny because everybody can understand the analogy and the
simple fact is there are other people in the neighborhood.
Eventually they just say enough. And I think the really
sad part is We've had maybe two generations, maybe three
generations now of not knowing what having a quiet neighborhood
is about.

Speaker 6 (27:48):
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Speaker 4 (27:49):
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Speaker 1 (27:53):
It's enough.

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Can you ever imagine?

Speaker 4 (27:55):
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Speaker 5 (28:05):
A pain and that, you know what.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
We have never seen that, and it's going to be
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Please don't be a stranger. Call again. Best callers in
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in the business. Jeff, Jeff jehef You always say it
because it's true. I don't know what else to tell you. Okay,
very there are now protests emerging against Donald Trump, against

(29:06):
Israel for having launched these attacks against Iran by the
radical left, by Democrats across the country. And you're seeing
it in Los Angeles. Now, you're seeing it in New York,
You're seeing it in Chicago. Pretty soon you're going to
see it here in Boston. And I'm not kidding. The
very same anti Doge protesters, the pro Palestinian pro Hamas protesters,

(29:32):
those Jew haters, the anti Ice protesters, now they've just
taken up the Iranian flag. It's the same protesters, different cause,
and now they're taking to the streets. It's already happening
the last twenty four forty eight hours. You're seeing them
everywhere waving the Iranian flag and saying hands off Iran.

(29:58):
They want Israel to stop their bombing campaign. They're calling
Trump now a war criminal. They're calling BBI a war criminal.
They are siding with the Mullas. And my question to you,
if Trump decides to commit US to a war against Iran,
and I'm not saying he will, but if he does,

(30:21):
will the Democrats openly ally themselves with the Islamo Nazis
in Tehran. Are the Democrats going to side with the Ayatolas,
those who chant death to America, death to Israel? Will
they side with them against their own country, the United States?

(30:44):
I'm just curious. Six one seven two six six sixty
eight sixty eight, Bill in Sudbury, Bill, we haven't heard
from you in a while. Good to hear from you, Bill.
How are you and what's on your mind?

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Hello, good morning, Good morning.

Speaker 7 (31:02):
I kind of think there's no way we don't give
Israel these bunker busters, these whatever they're asking for. I
honestly think there's no way we don't give them to them.
So I'm not sure what we're what we're exactly we're
wringing our hands about for two weeks. But what do
you describe for me what you think the reaction here

(31:24):
in America would be if mister Trump decided we're not
we're not given these bunker busters to Israel. Describe for
me what you think that would look like.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
You mean, what kind of reaction you mean political reaction?

Speaker 8 (31:37):
Yeah, exactly, the first day or two if he were
to come out and say, I've decided I'm not giving
them these bunker busters.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Well, I think it depends what happens in Iran. Bill.
I think because Israel has said that they can do
it without the bunker Busters. So, as you know, they've
got smaller penetrating bombs, not quite as big as the
thirty thousand pound bombs, but they're saying, look, we'll just
drop four or five six of them on for dough. Basically,
you know, chip away these mountains, chip away these mountains,

(32:09):
hollow them out, and then go in and destroy them,
or they can go with a commando raid. So if
Israel takes out for dough, then it's irrelevant whether we
gave them the bunker Busters or not. So I think
it depends on what happens in Iran. Look, I think
there's no question Bill that Trump will not will not

(32:33):
allow for dou to remain intact. He can't, the civilized
world can't. So the Europeans have said so as well.
So Israel is going to take out for dough. The
only question is how and what weapons will they use

(32:53):
and for Once you and I agree, you and I
completely agree on this bill, I think Trump will get it.
If need be. Trump will give them the bunker Busters
and Israel will use it and I think effectively this
war will be over. And again, I really want to
stress this, Obama's dream will have been destroyed, not just

(33:14):
that of the Iatolas, but the dream of Obama Obama
from his father, and he was open about this. If
you read Dreams from my father, he's crystal clear. His
goal was to bring America to its knees, to weaken America,
to undermine America, to strengthen our enemies around the world.

(33:35):
That's why he gave the Mullahs billions of dollars. That's
why he betrayed the pro democracy Green movement in Iran.
That's why he turned a blind eye as Iran launched
terrorist attack after terrorist attack, killing American soldiers, killing American personnel,
killing Israelis through Hesbellah and Hamas. And his dream will

(33:58):
go up and smoke as well. And I think you're
going to look at a profoundly transformed Middle East and
it'll be a rejection of Bidenism, of Obamaism, of Jimmy Carterism,
and frankly of the destruction of the Democratic Party in
that region for the last forty five years. So that's

(34:21):
my answer to your question.

Speaker 8 (34:23):
Almost to the point where where you're saying it's going
to be easy. It's a five thousand year old country
that's been in a defensive crouch for.

Speaker 7 (34:31):
Seventy five years. They can endure a great deal of punishment. Now,
what happens?

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Game it out with me here?

Speaker 8 (34:39):
What happens if we give Israel everything they ask for
and they throw everything that they ask for Adam and
they're still standing.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
What happens then?

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Bill? I don't I mean really, you said you're in
favor of them handing them.

Speaker 8 (34:56):
I'm saying the decision that he's weighing.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Out had it.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
You had it.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
You're so close, man, you were gonna make history today.
This is an historical moment we're living through. You were
actually gonna be right for once in your life. Seriously,
for once you were actually you were so close to
making sense, and then you just couldn't help yourself. So
you're the one that said we're gonna give them the
bunker Busters, and I assume you think we should. And

(35:22):
I just said, well, yeah, if you give them the
bunker Busters, the war is over. So what's the argument?
So your argument is what? Look, BB has said he
doesn't want regime change if it's a consequence. If the
Uranian people rise up, then great, but he's not going
to force regime change. Trump has said he's not forcing
regime change. So here's your end game. The endgame is simple.

(35:46):
Iran's nuclear capacity is destroyed, wiped out and eliminated. Its
ballistic missiles are wiped out and eliminated. The regime has
suffered a massive blow in many ways, an irreparable blow.
It's military leadership decimated, decapitated, it's intelligence decimated, decapitated. So

(36:14):
the Mullas will be teetering, they'll be desperately trying to
cling to power, but we will have significantly rolled back
Iranian power for at least a generation. That's what's going
to happen. That's what we're on the verge of achieving.
What's the problem.

Speaker 8 (36:32):
If Israel can do it on their own, and they
are so in such a great position, then what are
we deciding?

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Why do they need us at all?

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Bill? Don't you ever read a newspaper.

Speaker 8 (36:45):
Jeff, I've been following this. I'm kind of asking you
to game it out with me somehow. You want to
make it very personal.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
You're asking, you're asking a ridiculous question. The Israelis have
said repeated lead. This has been widely reported by every
newspaper in the world that the Israelis say, we can
deal with Fourdeaux, but it's higher risk for us if
you give us the bunker busters, because they're designed to

(37:13):
blow up mountains like that's what they're designed to do.
That this would be the simplest, easiest way to do it,
So please give us the bunker busters. Now, the problem
is many in our military say they're are busters, our bombs,

(37:33):
our bombers. We shouldn't give them to any foreign country.
If we're going to guarantee success, we should do it
on our own. That's the argument. So the argument is
we formally join Israel and help them finish off Iran's
nuclear weapons program. It would be quicker, it would be

(37:58):
more decisive, and with us in complete control of the
bombs and the bombers, it would have a much higher
rate of success, guaranteed success if we took over the
operation to blow up for Dough. I mean, Bill, I'm sorry, man,
but this is being reported all over the world. So again,

(38:19):
I don't understand what your point is. But Bill, you
were so close, man,
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