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July 9, 2025 • 22 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six one seven two six sixty eight sixty eight is
the number. Okay, this is a text message I got
from my sister out in Arizona, Tucson listening to Grace's hit.
And here's what. By the way, she said, Jeff Grace
should change her moniker doctor Grace, putting conservatives in their place.

(00:28):
But my sister goes on Jennifer jen She goes on
to say, Jeff, and she makes a very good point,
why are Democrats not joining now that Trump is supporting Ukraine?
In other words, you know, why aren't they backing him now,
at least on the Ukraine issue. This is how you
can tell the Democrats just want to take Trump down

(00:52):
no matter what, and they really don't care about Ukraine.
You know, that's a very good point. So he's doing
now with the Democrats have been calling for for months,
what the media has been calling for for months, what
warhawks and warmongers like lind like Lindsey Graham have been
calling for months. He's gonna, you know, send weapons to Ukraine,

(01:15):
crickets nothing. Democrats are quiet, the media is quiet. So
it just goes to show you they never really cared
about Ukraine. They just want to take Trump down. My
sister is one thousand percent correct. Heather in Maine. Thanks
for holding Heather, and welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Good morning, Jess.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Hi.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
I'm good. How are you, Heather.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I'm doing great. Thank you. So I am a huge
supporter of Trump. I absolutely love him. I campaigned for him,
I got to meet him. Love them, love them, love them.
But I really do disagree with him on this whole
Epstein thing, and I smell her at so I just
have a couple of points to make. I think he's

(02:04):
usually got incredible instincts on topics and on people. I
don't know if you remember in two thousand and seven
he banned Epstein from Marlago, Yes, because he was flirting
with one of the member's daughters, and so I thought
that was an excellent move on his behalf. I think

(02:26):
he's matured a lot as a man. I think the
power at one point of his life went to his head,
and he's become a better man in regards to women
since the heat he took over Stormy Daniels and the
life changing experience of the Assassinates attempt. I do not

(02:47):
think he was an angel husband or a faithful husband,
but I do believe he is a great father and
is now a reformed heat what happened before he and Epstein, though,
I have a sneaky suspicion that he is on that list,

(03:07):
or someone super close to him is on that list,
and that's why Tim Bondi is dragging her feet frustratingly
to all of us. We want that list exposed. I
hate to say that about Trumps because I absolutely love
him and would never agree with raping a child or

(03:29):
traffic and taffy king a child for these powerful men
to use. But those are my thoughts. I think it's
political suicide for any information like that to come out,
and I think that's why they've been dragging their feet
on this. I know that sounds crazy, but the feeling
I have, I know, very interesting.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
No, Heather, I got to tell you, I've gotten a
lot of the very similar reaction. Believe me, you're not
the only one. You know, hardcore Trumps supporters like you,
hardcore Kooner country listeners saying just almost almost verbat on
what you said, Jeff, I love Trump, you know, love him,
love him, love him, But I really disagree with him,
and I'm fear that maybe he was on the list.

(04:13):
Or he did something with Epstein way back, or someone
he knows did you know, did and he's trying to
protect that person, or because this is this is just
such a bad call on his part. Now I can
just all I can add is this, Heather. I remember
when he gave an interview and this was just just

(04:36):
during the campaign, and right away he said, you know,
persons said, well, will you release the JFK files? Yes?
Will you release the Martin Luther King files? Yes? Will
you release everything on the assassination of URR FK Robert F. Kennedy? Yes?
Will you release the Epstein files? And he was like,

(04:56):
you can see the hesitation now. He eventually said yes,
and he did. When he campaigned he said we're going
to release the Epstein files. He did, you know, he
said it multiple times, but I'll never forget that. There
was like the others, he was a definitive yeah, you
got it. No, you'll just let the chips fall where
they may. But when it came to Epstein was like

(05:17):
and it was very unlike him. You know, he's a
very definitive man. You know, he's either a yes or
a no. He's very you know, he's very emphatic. You know,
he rarely hedges, but on this one, I'll never forget it.
He was like eowow, yes, okay, you can tell there
was real hesitation in his voice. And I remember when

(05:39):
I saw that, it stood out. I mean, I still
remember to this day. I'm like, boy, that's really unlike him.
You know. Now, I'm not saying he's on the list.
I'm not saying he did anything. What I'm saying is
from the very beginning, you can tell, for whatever reason,
he felt very conflicted, very conflicted about the decision to

(06:01):
release the list. And I think what's gotten him now
in hot water Heather, which has made everything really worse,
is he vowed and he promised to release the lists, okay,
the files to be more accurate, the Epstein files. And
now they've completely reversed themselves. And on top of reversing themselves,
they're telling us, well, there's no client list. He never

(06:21):
blackmailed anybody. You know, he committed suicide. And you know what,
we're not going to prosecute anybody. No one's getting charged,
and this case is closed and move on. And almost
like you're insulting him by even asking about the Epstein list. Like,
don't even waste our time. We're wasting everybody's time. So

(06:42):
I think that's the problem now, Heather, is that he
made a promise and he's breaking his promise. And I
think that's what's got so many Trump supporters very mad
at him right now. Believe me, you're not the only one. Heather.
Thank you very much. I appreciate your honesty. I really
appreciate it six to one because many people are thinking,

(07:03):
and I know they're emailing me and texting me and
messaging me what you're saying, but they're not saying it
you are, So thank you very much for that. Six
one seven two sixty six sixty eight sixty eight is
the number I want to ask you. Agree, disagree. I
want to hear from all of you. Six one seven,
two sixty six sixty eight sixty eight is the number.

(07:26):
All right, let's go right to Bruce in Wuburn. Bruce,
thanks for holding and as always, welcome. Oh the moonbats
are out in forest Bruce, no question about it, my friend.
What do you make of Ukraine? What do you make

(07:48):
of Jeffrey Epstein? What do you make of the last
forty eight hours? Bruce?

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Well, I want I want to go right to Jeffrey
Epstein just to get it off my chest, and then
I'll segue into Ukraine with that other little weasel. Anyways,
I'm just glad that Jeffrey Epstein is dead, okay, Jeff,
and Maxwell's in jail for life. That makes me happy,

(08:16):
but not really, because I think of all those little
kids that got abused, and look at what's going on
with all these kids down in Texas, those poor kids
that died in the moon bath of you know, it's
all Trump's fault and Bubba, it's just this. They're so

(08:36):
sick in the head, Jeff. Now going to Ukraine, we
shouldn't have been there in the first place.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
You know.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
I'm sorry about all the Ukrainians that died because I
know some Ukrainians, but we got dragged into that and Biden.
Biden gave them all kinds of money. They blew the
money and and they want more. And I don't know, Jeff,
if it's the right idea the wrong idea. But poor Trump,

(09:07):
I mean, no matter which way he goes, they they
give him crap about doing the right thing, and then
when he does the wrong thing to appease them. I'm
sure they crap on him again. They totally they have
no conscience, they have no soul. They're communists, and I'm

(09:32):
just sick of them all. I really am, Jeff. I'm
just everybody I know has just decide themselves. And I'm
not losing faithan Trump. He's kept, he's gone. He's gone.
He's gone the green mile for us, and we're going
to be in the green, not in the red. I'm
just I'm just trying to think positive, Jeff. The weather's

(09:56):
been really terrible. I work outside. I feel bad, but
people let a living outside. But we need to get
this country back on track and do the right thing
for a country, for the American people, and stop throwing

(10:17):
good money away for bad I agree, no.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Bruce, Look I agree. I think you hit the nail
on the head. And look this has been to me anyway.
People may disagree with me, but I think it's been
one of the most successful six months of any presidency
in American history. I think he's had an incredible six months.
I'm being honest. And this is the irony prior to
Epstein gave the decision and now this decision on Ukraine.

(10:43):
I don't think I've seen a president have a better
two weeks. You know, I think what was it on Friday?
I said, he's on a roll. I said, I've never
seen a president on a roll like this. You know,
the big beautiful bill just to you know, a NATO
five percent GDP now going into military spending that's going
to be a trillion dollars. He's going to turn NATO

(11:05):
into a military powerhouse. That's another thing. Putin's gonna go
after NATO after they You're going to pony up a
trillion bucks to rearm themselves. I don't think so. But
my point is, you know he did with no other price.
Since Reagan, they'd been complaining about Europe not paying. It's
their fair share. Trump did it, boom India and Pakistan,

(11:30):
two nuclear powers, peace the Rwanda and Congo a thirty
year war. Forgive me to put it crudely, because he's
always being attacked as a white supremacist and a racist.
Do you know how many black people were killed in
that war? Black Africans. He ended it, and both Rwanda's
leaders and the leaders of Congo said only Trump could

(11:53):
have delivered peace. The bombing of the three nuclear sites
in Iran, decimating Iran's nuclear program really not just for
Israel's sake, but for the region, for America, and for
the world. The threat now of a nuclear holocaust from
Iran has at least been put back for many years.

(12:14):
I could go on and on. Unemployment four point one percent,
the stock market now all time high, all time high,
inflation now lower than it's been in what six years,
and continuing to go down. I mean, I could go
on and on. He's had victory after victory after victory,

(12:35):
and then you got Epstein and you got Ukraine, and
you're like, my god, talk about two self inflicted wounds.
So look, I still think it's an incredible six months.
I still think he's an incredible president. I still think
he's gonna have a wonderful three and a half years.
I think he's already putting America back on its feet.

(12:56):
I think when he starts signing some of these trade deals,
which is going to come in the next couple of weeks,
his accomplishments are going to get even more cemented. But
I do think Grace on this is one thousand percent correct.
I think the Epstein decision is going to haunt him,
and this decision now to get involved in Ukraine. That's
high risk. I'm telling you it's high risk, and it's

(13:19):
not what the American people voted him for. We wanted
America first, not Ukraine first. Bruce, thank you very much
for that call. CJ in Boston. Thanks for holding CJ,
and welcome.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
Thank you for taking the call. Jeff, my pleasure just
on the issue of Ukraine. Ukraine was never in the
interest of the national security or financial security of the
United States of America to get involved in that war.
And for those who call in who have only witnessed
walk through the lens of a camera, let me remind
them that with the most sophisticated equipment that the United

(13:58):
States had spent twenty years in Afghanistan until that coward
Joe Biden tore up the white flag and abandon our
people in Afghanistan. They should be reminded of that.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Jeff.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
And I think that what Trump is doing now, I'm
looking at it the other way. I think what Trump
is doing now in supplying more sophisticated arms to the
Ukraine is to speed up the end of this war.
He is going to escalate this war to a point

(14:34):
where's gonna dump everything that he possibly can including a
nuclear weapon on Kiev. That's what's going to end this
war because there is no negotiation to this point with
Putin on the issue of the issue of the pedophile Epstein,
I would just say this is that Pam Bondy and

(14:58):
Cash to tell they need to resign. You know, you
don't hear anything for the Democrats. You think they would
be screaming about this. Well, the I think the point
to be made here is is that the people on
that list of both high ranking Democrats and Republics Republicans
that contribute to tribute to the campaign are both the

(15:21):
Democrats and the republic parties. Just think about this, Jeff.
In the United States of America, if you.

Speaker 6 (15:29):
Kick kick a cat or dog, you could do jail time.
But for American prominent, high ranking rich Americans sleiba country
and to rape and sodomize innocent children. If that's not

(15:51):
a high clime and misdemeanor in covering this up, I
don't know what is. But what I can tell you
is this as a staunch Trump supporter, is that if
he does not give out that list, if he doesn't
come clean on this, I will not be making it
to the polls during the next presidential election, and more

(16:14):
and more talk now is being made as to whether
or not President Trump is on that list.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Whether he is not, maybe he needs to release the
files to clear his name. Many of you are making
this point on the text line and in messages to
the Kooner man on Messenger, and I agree with you. Look,
I think I don't think he's on the list. I
don't think Trump is on the Epstein list. And I'll

(16:44):
tell you why, because the Democrats would have released it
a long time ago. Oh my god, They've tried everything
to destroy this man. So if he had any connection
to Epstein, they would have released it a long time ago.
So I don't I don't believe he's on the list.
But anyway, the point is now a lot of people

(17:06):
CJ is right on social media, a lot of even
Trump supporters, are saying why why would you be covering
this up? Why? And that's opening the door now to
people actually wondering if he's on the list. So that's
maybe another You know, I think CJ's onto something, not
that Trump's on the list, but just to clear your

(17:29):
name completely, now, maybe you have to release the Epstein files. Say, Look,
I'm not on look, I'm not covering for me. I'll
tell you this here. It is so anyway, I don't
think this story is going anywhere. I think it's going
to continue. I don't think it's going to just stop.
I don't think it's going to be a two to
three day news story. I think this is going to

(17:49):
continue and continue and continue for weeks and weeks and weeks,
and Trump may have no choice in the end but
to release the files. We'll see six seven two sixty
six sixty eight sixty eight Harry in Maine. Thanks for holding, Harry,
and welcome.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Good morning, Jeff. Thanks for taking my call. My question, Hey, Jeff,
let me ask you something. What was the one of
the primary themes of Trump's campaign in twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
In twenty twenty, yep, uh, well, it was basically to
you know, reelection and continue the economy and dismantle the
deep state.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
You're right, but the way he framed it was more specific.
It was promises made promises, Captain.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
That's right, yes, over and over in.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Over, Okay, so aspires the Epstein. I want to come
back to that, and I mean I'm going to talk
about Ukraine real quick. Trump's major conversation. A theme of
conversations with Putin is that between five thousand and seventy
five hundred people are getting killed combined on both sides
of the war. Okay, he keeps throwing that number up,
thousand and seventy five hundred. Well, guess what Putin holds

(18:59):
himself the same reference and regard as Stalin in Lenin.
What's the commonality between Staten Stalin in Lenin, Jeff, A lot.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Of people died five thousand and seven thousand is nothing
for them?

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, and it was their people. They killed their own people. Yes,
what was the same mindset? That doesn't resonate with him
at all. As far as Trump telling them how many
people are dying, he does not care. The final point
in Ukraine, I'd say, is this, and I want to
talk about Epstein really briefly. Final point here is this,
when there's a war, and I'm not talking about like

(19:32):
an undeclared war, I'm not talking like a battle between
India and Pakistan. I'm not even talking about Vietnam that
wasn't a declared war. When there's a declaration of war,
there's a winner and there's a loser, and the person
that loses surrenders, and when they surrender, they put the
tail between their legs. They sit down at the table
and it dictated as to what the terms of settlement

(19:52):
are going to be. That's the victor goes the spoils. Okay.
So bottom line is, I'm one hundred percent behind what
you said. Grace was spot on. Larry called earlier one
hundred percent spot on. Okay, he should be told to
surrender and suck it up and take what's coming to him,
because this is just going to go on forever, and
by us putting billions and billions of dollars and we

(20:14):
just not only are wasting money, Jeff, we run the
risk of getting sucked into this thing. So enough on Ukraine.
As far as the Epstein situation, there was absolutely no
coincidence that they brought up the investigation of call Me
and Brennan at the same time that they talked about
the files not being there in the Epstein client list.

(20:35):
That was a bunch of bs. In Grace's right, BONDI
looked like a damn doorknob sitting there in the conference
room in the cabinet room with Trump, and he reacted
immediately to the question. He was waiting for it. She
started to speak, he just jumped right in. I mean,
it was crazy. And yesterday I heard two commentaries, one
from Klay Travis. What a joke. He's a lot of

(20:57):
voice of Trump, and I like Trump, and I'd voted
for Trump ninety nine percent of what he's done. Absolutely,
it's been great in his accomplishment. She just summarized, wonderful.
And he's still the best president we've had in my opinion,
in my lifetime. I'm seventy years old, okay, but I
would tell you this, Klay Travis is a water boy.
He's just poo pulling it like Trump was, Hey, you
know it's over with. What's the big deal? Who wants?

(21:17):
Who cares about that guy who was a lowlife? And
then later on in the day I heard Patrick Beck
David and he said it kind of like you did.
He said, the Trump administration fumbled this one and what
he meant by that, and he didn't go as fire
as I'm going to go, but he went aspires just
to say, you know, they all should have been on
the same page. They should have had their talk track down,
they should have gone on a conference call beforehand. And

(21:39):
decided what the three of them could tell Bondi and
Trump were going to say, Uh.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
No, Harry, Look I can't disagree with a single word.
I really I dropped the mic. I think it's a
great way to end the show. Look, I think these
I think Ukraine. He put it to you this way in
a sports analogy. I think Ukraine and Epstein are now
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