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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six one seven two six x sixty eight sixty eight
is the number. Okay, I know I've asked it earlier,
but I want to keep taking the temperature of this audience.
So because I believe truly Kooner Country is the heart
and soul of MAGA. It really is the heart and
soul of Trump Country. And it's why Trump's people listen
to this show religiously, because they know the way Kooner

(00:23):
Country blows is the way MAGA blows. So I want
to ask all of you again. It is the Kooner
Country Pole Question of the Day sponsored by Marios Mario's
Quality Roofing, Siding and Windows. President Trump lashed out at

(00:45):
maga's focus on the Epstein files and said that they
were being duped by Democrats and he did not need
their support.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Does he really mean it or what?

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Is he just exasperated, you know, angry, blowing off steam
and maybe he should have just you know, not hit post,
you know another Herza. These people they're never happy. So
let me ask all of you a he means it.
He really is saying, if you voted for me or
supported me, but you still want me to release these files.

(01:22):
I don't want your vote, I don't want your support.
Or B he's just exasperated, blowing off some steam and
everything will be fine and we'll all kiss and make up.
In other words, does he mean it? Is this a
permanent breach? Or B He's just angry and he's just

(01:45):
expressing himself in a very exasperated way.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
A or B.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
You can vote on our web page WRKO dot com
slash Cooner wrko dot com slash own kuh and is
in the national Er. You can also vote via x
and I'm always active on x my handle there at
the Kooner Report kuh and as in national Er. Bill

(02:17):
in Wilmington, Thanks for holding Bill and welcome.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Hi Jeff. How you doing this morning?

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Good? How are you?

Speaker 3 (02:24):
I'm great? Have great calls today, can't disagree with the call?
Is Jeff one wonderful audience? Anyway, Let's go back to
the beginning with this Epstein character. His occupation was financi.
He was involved in a Ponzi scheme and he ran

(02:45):
it out his partner. His partner went to jail for
twenty years. Then all this business with the child pornography
and stuff started coming to light. What did they do
about it? Then? Nothing. They gave this guy a slap
on the wrist. Okay, because of all the big donors,
all the big business people. You probably know all their names,

(03:06):
Victoria's secret owner and some other big high profile people
that were at all his residents. Where did this guy
get all his money? Why don't they follow the money?
Find out where it all came from the island, the
place in Mexico, New Mexico, Florida, New York, Alan Dershowitz.

(03:31):
There was depositions done by multiple staff of Epstein claiming
he was at the Florida mansion all the time. He said,
it was just poor judgment on his spot dealing with Epstein,
and the same with the rest of them. To me,
that is lamer than the lame. Okay, So how do

(03:55):
you get to the bottom of it all? Epstein's dead,
We know that. So these are people they want. They
want the names of these people involved. Some of them
are already out there. That's what they're talking about. There's
unsealed documents still, you said earlier judges control that right now.
I don't think it's a coincidence that they fired Camey's daughter.

(04:19):
She's the one that prosecuted Maxwell Okay, Maxwell did a deposition.
She claimed Clinton was never on the island, and she
couldn't remember dates, She couldn't remember a ton of things.
She's probably lying. But these other people claimed that these
high profile people were there and involved with so called massages,

(04:40):
which was cold word for sex. Now, how do you
get to the bottom of it? All related to mister Trump,
our president and Trump we trust he doesn't want this
control in his narrative. He's been through so much, Jeff right,
He's trying to do everything, the economy, the foreign policy.

(05:04):
He's got his own agenda and this is not what
he wants. Bondie opened up Pendurama's box saying this, that
and the other thing. I have this, I have that. Well,
she wasn't even his first choice. It was that other
fellow from flog.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, Matt Gaates, Bill.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
You're completely right. And Bill, look you're absolutely right on
almost every point. You're completely right, and look, you know
you're right. Bondi was the one that came out and said,
I have the Epstein files. I'm reviewing them there on
my desk. Now, all of a sudden, there's nothing to
see there and we're not going to release it. And
there's no list, there's no nothing. Now as for Epstein, look,

(05:44):
there's no way. Everybody who knew him said he had
no talent whatsoever. You talk to anybody any of these
big financial advisors, financial gurus on Wall Street, to a
man and a woman, they will all tell you the
only people that gave him money were people that he
was blackmailing. So this, I mean this idea that you know,

(06:08):
why why were some of the wealthiest, most powerful people
in the world, not just the United States but the world,
why did they hand over over half a billion dollars
to this absolute no name fraud sister like Epstein because
he had compremand he had them in called he was

(06:28):
blackmailing them, and so they gave him his money and
made it say well, yeah, he's my advisor. Oh that's
why you're giving him twenty million or thirty million or
fifty million. In other words, they gave him money so
he wouldn't release their secrets, and they did it under
the guise of he's my advisor, my financial advisor. As
I said in the last segment, but it bears repeating.

(06:52):
We know Jeffrey Epstein was blackmailing people. We know, so
I know Bondi's lying to us and cash Betel and
Dano that memo. I know everybody knows why because this strange,
bizarre thing about Epstein, And look, I love teachers. Don't
take this as a criticism. It's the exact opposite. I

(07:13):
love teachers. But we're talking about one of the wealthiest
men in America before he passed away. Okay, Jeffrey Epstein,
who was a financial financial advisor to the stars, to
the most powerful people in Hollywood, in business, in politics
around the world. This guy used to be a math teacher.

(07:38):
That's what he was. He was a math teacher and frankly,
not a very good math teacher. And everybody said, not
that bright, not that smart, not that well educated. So
how do you go from being a math teacher to
being a multi billionaire who is so rich? I want
you to think about this. He had the most expect

(08:00):
and siff mentioned in all of Manhattan. Do you know
who lives in Manhattan. He had his own private island
in the Virgin Islands. He had four not one, not two,
not three. He had four private planes. So he became

(08:21):
one of the wealthiest, most powerful, connected, influential people in
the world and you know, like forget you know, imagine
me just walking up to the most powerful, wealthiest people,
give me your money, I'll invest your money. What would
they say, get lost? Who the hell are you? But
they kept giving money to Jeffrey Epstein. And the reason

(08:44):
why he was there were his clients, was because it
all turned out he was blackmailing them. Now he was
blackmailing them because he threw notorious parties, which has been
widely reported literally thousands of times. Infamous parties and many
of them involving underage girls or boys, including kids. But

(09:06):
you know they were prostitutes, they were adults. I mean
there was you know, you went to an Epstein party,
it was like a p didty party, Okay, a freak off.
So that's what he did, and then he created this
ingenious blackmail model. It was a business model, and he

(09:27):
secretly taped them and then he'd go up and show
them the pictures or the photos or whatever and said,
you know, you sure you don't want to invest in
me and have me become your financial advisor. And that's
when it became people were saying, this is incredible. They're
handing him twenty million dollars to invest fifty million dollars
to invest, and pretty soon he amassed over a half

(09:49):
a billion dollars who people just gave him money to
invest on their behalf and that's how he became a
multi billionaire. So don't tell me he wasn't blackmailing people
like you're insulting my intelligence.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Now.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
As for Marine, call me, this is huge. She was
fired yesterday. Finally, we've been calling for her to be fired.
Conservatives have Trump supporters day one, the daughter of James
call me. She was a top prosecutor in the Southern
District of New York in Manhattan, which, by the way,

(10:27):
Pam Bondi and Cash Patel said is where most of
the Epstein files were located, and that both Bondi and
Patel said they feared that they were being destroyed by
anti Trump hacks and operatives. And if you remember, Cash
Pateel sent an army of FBI agents under Pambondi's authorization,

(10:50):
to grab all of those Epstein files and take them
out of the Southern District of New York. And that's
when she said, infamously, Yeah, I have them. They're sitting
on my desk. I'm reviewing him right now. Suddenly, no,
there are no files. Suddenly, now there's nothing. It's all nothing.
Now The point is about Marine Comi. She was the

(11:13):
one who prosecuted Jeffrey Epstein before he you know whatever,
he died, Okay. She was the one who led the prosecution.
She was the one that kept wanting to keep all
of the famous names out. She didn't want it to
go public. She was the one who prosecuted Julaine Maxwell.

(11:35):
She was the one, listen to this, that asked the
judges in Manhattan, keep the names under seal, the names
on the list, the accuser, the accused, the powerful pedophiles.
We don't want those names to ever come out. She
was the one that told the two judges keep all

(11:58):
this under seal. That came from her. That was her request.
Now I read the firing as I think they're worried
about the backlash among MAGA, and they're like, I think
we're going to have to start cleaning house here and
we may have to release some of these files. And

(12:20):
there's a cancer, and that cancer was Marine Comy. So
let's get rid of her. So and Lara Trump came
out on behalf of the president just a few days
ago and said, we hear you. We need more transparency,
we need more accountability. You need to hear more about
the files, and we're looking into it. So the pressure

(12:41):
is working. They're starting to backtrack. But you can't even
begin to get real openness and transparency unless you get
rid of Marine Comy. So she was fired yesterday, But
my point is she was the one that was one
of the key architects of the cover up. Now is

(13:04):
she going to cover up for Donald Trump? That's why
I've been saying this forever. I said, if he came
anywhere close to Epstein Island, if he just flew over
Epstein Island on his way I don't know, to Bermuda
or wherever they would be in the files, they would
have released it.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
So I know Trump is not on the list.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
I know it because Comy wants to cut his throat
from ear to ear literally, not figuratively, literally eighty six
forty seven. Either he does it or you know, we
get someone else to do it. Comy hates him, so
Marine Comy would have leaked if there was anything damaging
about Trump or anything close to Trump. So that's why

(13:49):
I'm saying, if Comy's involved and they cover it up,
and they're covering up for Bill Clinton, in particular. The
one thing about Marine Comy she worked hard on Elaine Maxwell.
Don't you name Bill Clinton, Don't you name Bubba, because
it goes from Bubba to Hillary, and it goes from

(14:09):
Hillary to very powerful donors, Democrat donors. So what I'm
telling you is the firing of Marine Comi is huge news.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
It's very important.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
But she was the one who went to the judges
and said, keep this under seal. Now, give me a
serious attorney general who really wants to get to the truth.
I'll break those judges and I'll get those documents unsealed.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Now.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
For whatever reason, Bondi doesn't want to do that, And
she's lying to us, and so is Cash Ptel, and
so is Dan Bongino. And the more you lie, the
more a people resent it, and the more speculation there is.
That's why everyone's like, you know, Jeff, let go of
the Epstein thing. They won't let go of the Epstein thing.

(15:02):
I'm not the one posting on true social I'm not
the one talking to reporters. I'm not the one insulting
his own base. I'm not the one like Pam BONDI
who's making all kinds of promises. And then Renegg's So
what I'm saying is this scandal, whatever you think of it,
is really of their own making. That's what's so incredible

(15:23):
about this. Agree, disagree, Muriel in Marshfield. Thanks for holding Muriel,
and welcome.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
Good morning, Jeff, Hi, Hi, I just wanted to give
a little different perspective. I know there's a lot of
angry people. Yes, I think that's why Trump's so frustrated,
and you know, I get it, but I trust them,
and I'm going to tell you why. There's a lot
of corrupt people, obviously on the left. They've tried to
frame Trump for all sorts of things in the past.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Mike WIT's, Mike, you kent' this is I mean, I
gotta tell you, Muriel. Really Okay, let's go right back
to Mauryel in Marshfield. Maryel, please, I want you to
pick up where you left off. But just before you do,
if you can answer a quick question. Mike says I'm
mispronouncing your name. He says that your name is Mariel.

(16:23):
I say it's Muriel. Who's right, Mike or me?

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Muriel is the correct pronunciation?

Speaker 2 (16:31):
It's it's it's Mariel, Muriel. M you are, m you are.
That's what I was telling Mike. It's Muriel. Yes, yeah,
that's what I was telling him.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
You know. So anyway, thank you for settling that, because
Mike is seven minutes he was on my case.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Now we're saying it's fake news, all right.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
So that's okay, So what I want to do Muriel? Okay,
So I really believe the Democrats they had plenty of
time to make their own phony list of people that
went to Epstein Island before it because they were afraid
if Trump got elected they could just you know, that's

(17:12):
the way they always operate. They have fake dossier's, they
have these J six committees. They're always after them. And
I think Pam Bondi spoke too soon. She thought she
had the real list, and I feel like the real
evidence could be listed under the way James Comey used
to operate was just change a letter and then it
would be filed somewhere else. But you know, I remember

(17:35):
Rush Limbay used to say, the Patriot Act, Obamacare, all
that stuff was sitting in a desk, in a drawer somewhere.
It didn't just happen that way, and I have a
feeling the Democrats wanted to cover their rear ends they
had their own thing, and that's why the Democrats are
screaming so loud to release the list. And the problem

(17:56):
is is all the people on our side now they're
mad at Trump. And I think he so frustrated because
he knows they won that battle and he and he's
he probably wanted to release the list and now we
can't because there's people on there that never went who
knows of his own they put his own kids on there.
I mean, they're gonna have to find the real That's

(18:16):
how I feel.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
No, No, it's a very Maria, it's a very valid point.
It's a very interesting point. Here's what my question to you, then,
why not just say that I don't mean you, I
mean Trump or have Pond BONDI or or or you know,
cash Pttel whoever. In other words, say look, they tampered
with the evidence. They tampered with the files. Some of
them were deleted, destroyed, whatever they moved them, they compromised them,

(18:41):
and we believe that there are now fake names in there,
Like why not just say that and explain it instead?
It's really, it's literally it's shut up, you know, you know,
and fall in line, and if you don't, then I
don't want your support.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Am I making any sense?

Speaker 4 (19:00):
I think they should just say that too. But you know,
the weird thing is, it's like none of us know
what's really going on behind closed doors. So I know
Trump is totally forgetting the pedophiles. He wants those pedophiles,
I know he does. That's one of the biggest reasons
I think he ran for office was because of this
child trafficking. So that's why I trust what he's doing.

(19:22):
And I know something happened that we don't know about,
and that's why I don't want to jump all over them.
And I think the reason he's getting lashing out of
people like on our side is because there are people
that are already angry with him in a split second,
and he's probably shocked that people would turn on him
that quickly. He's I think he really wants to get

(19:44):
these guys. I think he doesn't even know where to
go from here. But I think that possibly James Comey's
daughter did something with the files, but she might have
corrupted him. I have a feeling it's not the real
list and they can't release it now. And I think
Pam Bondi spoke way too soon, and that's why Patel

(20:05):
and Bongino were so mad at her. I think they
were mad at her, and I think Frum's frustrated, and
I feel like the Democrats won this little battle and
they're laughing about it, and that's why they want it released,
because it's not the real list.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Well, Muriel, I can just tell you this. There's no
question that Bongino and Patel are not happy with Bondy
and they're not happy with the way she's handled this.
I mean, the long knives are now out. So anyway, Muriel,
very interesting call, really good call. Thank you. All right,
thank you for that call. All right, let's squeeze in

(20:40):
at least one more. Jeff in Chempsford. Thanks for holding, Jeff,
and welcome.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
Pleas we're going. Jeff, Hi, Jeff, you could have went
on vacation for a week and just played last weeks.
It's the same people, the same crap. I'm sick of
the Epstein stuff. The hell with it. You don't think
that if Trump had the chance to expose those people,
he would have done it. By now, think about this
it's right. You're a smart guy who's the Supreme Court

(21:07):
justice that's been voting against him, a Republican appointed one
all along, and now all of a sudden, he's voting
his way every time. He's using this for leverage. I mean, damn,
the guy's only been in for six months. I think
Brenda wants to know the list to see if her
husband's on it. But I mean, give it a break.
Let the guy work, and at the end, if he's

(21:30):
got something and he's walking out the door, he's going
to drop the bomb. That's how he works. He's frustrated,
that's why he's pissed off at people. People are throwing
him under the bus. He just started, he already went
through four years.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
A hell.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
No no.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
I mean, you know, Jeff, I understand a lot of
what you're saying. But I mean my understanding is, and
he's reacting to people on true social his voters, who
are just saying, show us the list, re least the list.
I don't know how that's throwing him under the bus.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yes,
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