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April 22, 2025 • 38 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight is
the number. Okay, just another heads up on Thursday, yes,
two days from today, at high noon, at noon at
the steps of the State House, right in front of
the Boston Commons, huge rally against well to reunite the

(00:20):
rivera family clearly, but a huge rally to protest these
outrageous actions by DCF and lawmakers up on Beacon Hill
who are now trying to take away parental consent, parental authority,
and our ability to decide what is best for our children.

(00:43):
It is sponsored by American Made Action. I will be there,
I will be speaking, and I hope as many of
you show up as possible. Let's go right back to
Alisa in Gardner. Alyssa, you were making I thought a
brilliant observation. Trump is not the same, He's the tourniquet.
And then you were saying, we've got to show up

(01:04):
in numbers, not just at the rally, but when they
introduce these bills and invite questions and feedback from the voters.
That's where citizens have to show up and make their
voices heard. Please Alyssa, pick up where you left off.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Thank you so much. Jeff Yeah, No, I think that
it gets really kind of lost. Like we've won, we
want in November. We have we have Trump, we have JD,
we have Bobby. We we need to keep winning. So
parents need to fight, fight, fight for their parental rights

(01:42):
because this is a coordinated effort by the pharmaceutical companies
to restrict our rights. It happened in Connecticut, it happened
in California, it happened in Maine. I personally thought Maine
would never go south. In Maine and south the fastest

(02:02):
we've ever seen. So it's unfortunate. In New Hampshire, it's
coming for you next. So you guys better watch out
up there.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Alyssa, What is in your view? What do you think
is the end goal? What I mean? I know the
pharmaceuticals want to keep pumping our kids with vaccines. They
want to get the COVID job into everybody. That's their
ultimate aim. I get that. So they're all about the
profit and they need the power and the control to
get the profit. I get that. But you know, take

(02:35):
these Democrats in California, or the Dems in Connecticut, or
many of these lawmakers up in Maine and now here
in Massachusetts. What is it, like, ultimately, what is it
that they want to control every aspect of our life?
Are we going to get to the point now where
they're going to decide how many children we can eventually have,

(02:58):
like in China, you know have like what is it
a one child policy? Well, they can decide if we
get married, if we don't get married. They can decide
who we are as people, whether we're men, whether we're women,
whether we're in other words, what is their end goal?
That's what I'd love to know. What is it they

(03:19):
keep wanting to control our bodies and the bodies of
our children and turn us into their property to what
end correct?

Speaker 2 (03:29):
And as we've seen with Gavin Newsom, it's do as
I say, but not as I do. Gavin broke his
own protocols for COVID over and over again to control
his population, and they continue to cramp down on the population,
and people are fleeing California, and people will flee Massachusetts.

(03:52):
But my concern is if we don't stand up now
for our rights in our state individually, then every state
is going to follow. They want control, They want to
control every aspect of our life for their own profit.
And I think you're right with end goal there.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Think it's ultimately basically, I mean, I don't want to
overdo this, but it's almost like a new form of slavery, right,
I mean, it's it's almost as if they want to
create a kind of slaveholding or a ruling class, sort
of like what they have in communist China. And the
rest of us are literally at their mercy. They control

(04:34):
our information, they control our education, they control our bodies,
they control our children. Ultimately, it's a total It's like
nineteen eighty four. It's a totalitarian future where the all
powerful state and the people who run it dominate and
control and exploit every aspect of our lives. Is that

(04:55):
what this is, Alissa?

Speaker 2 (04:57):
What's been happening since COVID. It hasn't stopped. If anything,
it's ramped up. They feel more powerful.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Incredible, incredible, Alissa. When you talk to your friends, you know,
people in your circle, are they aware of this? And
are the natives starting to get restless? Are the peasants
now saying enough is enough?

Speaker 2 (05:23):
It is amazing to see I have friends on the left,
I have friends on the right, I have friends on
the center, I have libertarian friends. We all come together
to fight these bills. We put everything aside to advocate
for our parental rights, our religious rights, our children's education.
That's a beautiful thing. We have a grassroots community at

(05:46):
Health Action MA of people from across the spectrum. We
put everything aside to fight, fight, fight.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
God bless you, Alyssa. I hope to see I hope
to see you and as many of you at Health
Action m A at the rally on Thursday, Alyssa. God
bless you and keep up the great fight. I really
appreciate it. Joe in New Hampshire, Thanks for holding Joe,
and welcome winning.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
I hope you do well.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Very good, Joe.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
I just wanted to tell you a few years ago
we went to see an exorcist at Saint Marie Parish
in Manchester, New Hampshire. His name was Father Chad Rippeker.
He's all over YouTube and he warned this is just
so interesting to me and so actually really scary. He
warned that even just assuming positions of yoga can open

(06:35):
our souls to eat evil influences. So this when you said,
you know, go ahead, able to go ahead, you know,
pretend to be a furry in your backyard. If Father
Riviker is right, you should tell her do not do
that even in private. This is very, very scary. I mean,
it sounds ridiculous, but I'm talking. This is what the
excess says. So another thing, too, is that the Exorcist

(07:00):
movie was based on a kid that's a real true
life story. His name was Ronald Edwin Hunkler and the
way that he became to them is that he was
playing with the weed board. But it's not and that's
how the whole thing started. So, Jeff, I think I believe,
I suspect that public school teachers are actually teaching satanic

(07:24):
cult to our kids in the schools underneath the radar.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Joe, can you hang on? I'm up against a heartbreak.
I want to come right back to Joe six one
seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Okay, I
want to go right back to Joe in New Hampshire.
Before I do, though, I want to read a text
that I got that I think is very provocative. But
it's true. And we've talked about this in the past,

(07:51):
but it kind of reminds us if we, you know,
take us back three four years to those COVID days
and uh, it's true. It's all true, and the pharmaceuticals
have not given up, and the globalists have not given
up what their ultimate end goal is. So this is
from seven eight one. You can text us seven zero
four seven zero seven zero four seven zero Jeff. The

(08:13):
end goal of the pharmaceutical companies is to serve the
globalist takeover, and the goal is gruesome. Remember when Bill
Gates said that population reduction will be a product of
the vaccines. All of these interventions are sterilizing mechanisms. They

(08:37):
want us dead. But if they can't kill us outright,
sterilizing us will do the job. Seven eight one. You're
an absolute genius, absolute genius. If you remember, at the
height of the so called plandemic, okay, the COVID pandemic,
Klaus Schwab at the World Economic Form, by the way,

(08:59):
he stepped down. Now, but what Pope Francis dies, who,
by the way, was very close with klau Schwab and
the World Economic Forum. But let that go. I don't
want to rain on the media's parade. Okay, so let
that go. But almost on the day that Pope France
has died, Schwab now has stepped down. He's still going

(09:22):
to play an active role behind the scenes, but he's
no longer. El Presidente of the World Economic Form. Klaus Schwab,
Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, you can run down the whole line.
Talked about how the greatest threat to humanity is quote
unquote overpopulation and that the goal is to reduce the

(09:46):
population by over seven billion people. That basically they want
a world population about five hundred million. And so they said,
we need wars, we need earthquakes, we need famines, we
need starvation, we need vaccines, we need sterilization. So that

(10:09):
is clearly part of the globalists end goal is they
want to it's basically population control. It's to reduce humanity
to about five hundred million. With these globalists as the overlords,
the new slaveholding or ruling class, and the most of

(10:31):
the remaining population as essentially their laborers and their peasants,
their serfs. And notice power is always going one way,
concentrated in the hands of an elite few. They keep
taking more and more power away from us every single day.

(10:52):
It's like a vampire draining blood out of our body.
We've got to start taking the power back. Let's go
right back to Joe in New Hampshire. Joe. You know,
I got to say this. I've always felt that a
lot of now of the radical left wing agendas, the

(11:13):
Marxist agenda, the DEI agenda, the critical race theory agenda,
the radical lgbt QIA plus agenda, the whole kitten kaboodle
transgenderism being the latest fad, that this truly is diabolical

(11:34):
and demonic, and that the ultimate goal is to destroy
and warp our children and to destroy and warp our country.
And so when you talk about Jeff we need an exorcism,
I'm thinking we may need an exorcism on the whole,
you know, on the entire public education system. Because Joe,

(11:57):
I got to tell you, when I saw my beautiful
little girl honestly running, you know, in the backyard on
all fours hopping, I swear for a split second it
was like, is she possessed? I know it sounds crazy,
but it seemed so bizarre, like what is my baby
girl doing? And then when she came to me with

(12:21):
a source of shame like did you see me, daddy,
Like she knew she was doing something she shouldn't so anyway,
and then Joe look to have students at school, and
I don't look, I'm not talking one or two. You know,
Ava just named me five of her friends. Who have

(12:41):
you know, these tales, these furry tales, and these artificial
pause whatever at a costume store, whatever you buy, and
thirty minutes at recess and all they're doing is running
around the back of running there on all fours, hopping
around in the schoollyard, barking and me and being told

(13:02):
I identify as a dog or a cat, treat me
like a dog or a cat. And they're biting other students,
literally biting them. I said, well, I'm a dog, and
that's what dogs do. They bite. And the teachers are
coddling them. They don't want to confront them. And the

(13:25):
reason why they don't want to confront them is because
they're petrified they're going to be sued for discrimination. Joe,
this is this is evil. Joe, Am I wrong?

Speaker 3 (13:39):
You're absolutely right? And I agree with seven eight one.
By the way, something very interesting. I don't know. Have
you ever heard of the Georgia guidestones.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
I've heard of them, yes, Joe, Yes.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
They've been demolished now somebody blew them up. But everything
you said about the globalist. It was right. It was
written right on the guidestones about keeping world population of
like five hundred million, you know, underneath a billion. By
the way, getting back to the true story of the Exorcist, yeah,
that was based on a true story. It was a

(14:12):
little boy who's playing with a weezy board in his
aunt and that's how they believe the evil entered him.
And there's actually a New York Post article about it.
And his name was actually finally developed rather recently. His
name was Ronald Hunkler in the name of the New
York Post article. It was dated December twenty, twenty twenty one,

(14:36):
and it was the title was what really happened to
Ronald Hunkler who inspired the Exorcist? So I recommend people
see that and if you get a chance, you know,
sometimes Jeff maybe asked Father Chad ripperger Rip p E
R G E R to come on sometime because I
think these public school teachers they know they're doing wrong,

(14:57):
that they're teaching satanic color practice the track kids in
public schools, they know what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Joe, thank you very much for that call. I really
appreciate it. Look to be honest, I think a lot
of them would love to tell these kids to knock
this off, but they're afraid of losing their jobs and
they're afraid of being sued. That's what I mean. We've
got to get the heavy hand of these crazy, woke
bureaucrats off their neck. We've got to do it for

(15:25):
the sake of our children and for the sake of
our children's education. Frankly, for the sake of their souls.
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight.
By the way, Mike and I were just talking about
this off air. I've seen The Exorcist now maybe three
or four times. One of the scariest movies I've ever seen,

(15:45):
really truly. I know at the time it was considered
the scariest movie of all time, and it's considered a
classic film, but it is to this day, it's one
of the scariest movies I've ever seen. Now, Mike doesn't
think it's the scariest. Mike thinks it's either insiduous, which
I'm not sure I don't think I've seen Mike, Okay,

(16:06):
forgive me insidious, my bad Mike so insidious, which he
says he's he says he couldn't sleep practically that that's
how much it scared him. Which I don't think I've
ever seen. What was the other one, Mike, The Baba Duke?
Is that the one? Okay, the Babba Duke. I don't
think I've seen the Babba Duke either, But Mike says

(16:28):
they're actually scarier than The Exorcist. Now, let me tell
you a movie that I think is as scary as
The Exorcist, maybe even scarier, The Exorcism of Emily Rose.
It came out maybe don't quote me on this, maybe
fifteen seventeen, eighteen years ago. It's got a really good cast.

(16:53):
It's based on a true story about a girl who
goes to college and becomes bist. Okay, just another quick reminder,
big rally this Thursday, two days from today noon at
the steps of the State House, right in front of
the Boston Commons. It will start at twelve o'clock lunchtime.

(17:14):
Obviously I will be speaking, there will be a lot
of other speakers. This is a very important rally, and
I'm telling you we can win this issue. We can
win this issue, but we've got to get our voices heard.
People need to show up and God willing people will
just super super quick. I'm getting a lot of people saying,

(17:37):
you know, Jeff, this population control agenda, it's look, it's everywhere.
George Sorow says openly come out and said that's our
end goal. He's repeatedly said it on record. His son,
who's now basically taken over the financial his entire financial
political empire, has said, that's our long term goal is

(17:59):
popular control. The entire climate change movement. You talk to
all of these environmentalists, I mean it's book after book,
article after article. The problem is there are too many
people on Earth. To the point now that Elon Musk
is now addressed it head on, I don't want to

(18:20):
get too carried away. I want to stay focused on
the issue. But Elon now has come out and warned
not just the United States, but the entire West, saying,
trust me when I tell you this, We're going to
be facing a population collapse in the next twenty years.
It's the greatest threat that we face because people are

(18:42):
no longer having children, especially younger people. The birth rate
has completely I mean it's just it's plummeted. We're way
below replacement level. Why because they're being indoctrinated through the media,
through Hollywood, through academia, throughout the universities, in schools in particular.

(19:04):
Think about it, They're constantly being bombarded with the message
you should never have been born, that human beings are
a scourge on the planet. We're the biggest carbon footprint.
We shouldn't breathe, we shouldn't eat, we shouldn't consume electricity,
we shouldn't drive a car. We shouldn't So humanity is

(19:25):
going to kill the planet, So have less children. So
this is not some you know, crazy conspiracy theory in
the dark corners of the internet. The World Economic Forum
issued literally there, you know, their agenda for the next

(19:47):
fifteen to twenty years, and they said, we have to
we have to drop population, reduce the world's population by
billions and billions and billions of people. How do we
do that start sterilized or also make life so expensive
for the middle class that they can't afford to have children.

(20:11):
I mean, and obviously you've had you know, the Jeff
Bezos of the world, the Bill Gates of the world,
the George Soros of the world have openly said no, no, no, no,
we need about five hundred million people that's it. We
don't need more than that. Everything else is quote unquote

(20:31):
excess population. Get rid of it somehow, some way.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
So just so that you.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Understand, that's the end goal. That's why it's all tied
to big Pharma. It's tied to the globalists and why
they want to say they control our bodies and the
bodies of our children. We're their property.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Now.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
If they can control what they can put into your children,
and that they could sterilize your children, and that they
could vaccinate your children against your will, well pretty soon
they're going to be able to control how many children
you can have. They'll be able to control every aspect
of your life and your children's life, because what they're

(21:18):
telling you is it's no longer your child, it's their child.
That children belong to the government and to the state,
not to the parents. Six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight agree, disagree. Dan in New Hampshire,

(21:40):
Thanks for holding Dan, and welcome.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
You're right over target, Jeff. These are Marxist socialist communist
Democrats and their statanists, okay, and you're right over the
target with the names. Okay, this goes They're all tied
to Act Blue okay, George Sourrows, Bill Gates, Mark zucker Berg,
the Prince Family, Clai Schwab, Reed Hoffmann okay. And then

(22:05):
you get the people uh also Jeff Bezos, right, and
then you got Melinda Gates okay, and uh Lauren Lauren
Powell jobs who owns the Atlantic Disney right? And then
who's running it? I talked about Norby iceand the other
day okay, who openly in February said bragging about going

(22:26):
to slap over one hundred lawsuits and president on President
Trump okay, and uh in February, Okay, you get Emily Kirby,
Kristin Ford, Allegra Chapman, and you got near a tandem
who controls the Flower Group? Okay? She has she's a
big key player in this.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
And when you're talking about the Flower Group, now you're
talking about uh Mayor Wou okay and daval Patrick they
both came from there. They're from the old Chicago connection, right, Jeff, Okay.
So this is what's going on, and we have to
expose it. These people keep saying we're the democracy, right,
and even some of these uniparty traders, they say we're democracy.

(23:09):
Where in the US Constitution does it mention a democracy
or a democrat. It doesn't exist, not in the Pledge
Allegiance of the United States or the Bill of Rights.
But what you will find is the United States tell
guarantee to every state in this Union a republic, a

(23:30):
republican form of government. Okay. So that being said, Jeff,
you're absolutely right about Fox. Use that scumbag Sean Handy.
He runs the scripted show. Every time I try to
call it to that show, they want to record your
phone call, Jeff, They record your call and then they
alter it, they delete whatever they don't want to get out, Okay.

(23:54):
And he keeps rolling out these traders, these guys that
he calls his good good friends, Kyle very Fleischer, right,
Mark Meadows, right, these guys that stabbed Trump Mike Pen's right, okay.
And Mark Meadows is tied to the freedom Pockets. He
was he was a plant for the bushes and the
Chinese and a moa cow robe and Airy Fleischer, that's

(24:17):
what he was doing. And this guy, Mark Meadows is
tied to Global real Estate, which is selling land to China.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Okay, Well, Dan, I think Dan, I mean, look honestly again, Uh,
dynamite information, and you said it China. You mentioned all
of these names, all of these people, and everything you
say is a completely true, one thousand percent true. It
all leads, all roads ultimately lead to China. And you
look at all these wealthy globalists, these very you know,

(24:48):
these what billionaires, multi billionaires, how they control the media
and now everything in the end goes to communist China,
and that is their model for the world. They you
mentioned Mark Zuckerberg, you mentioned George Sorows, you mentioned Melinda Gates,
Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, you can run down the whole line.

(25:09):
They believe that China is the new Rome of the
Roman Empire, that America's days are done, that we're finished,
that we cannot compete with the country. That's what one
point four billion people, So just take their point four
that's four hundred million, So the point four is a

(25:31):
higher population than that of the United States, and then
add a billion to that. So they see this as
potentially the biggest market in the world where they can
make really unimaginable amounts of money. And they love the
ideology of the Chinese Communist Party. The Chinese Communist Party

(25:52):
is not your father or grandfather's communist. If you bend
the knee to the regime, they'll let you keep most
of your money. They're not going to confiscate your money.
And you help them maintain their power, they will help
you maintain your power. You know, as one of my

(26:13):
professors taught me, this was in the nineties, and he said,
you know, people keep calling China communists. It really is
a fascist regime. I mean, it's like red fascism. It
may have a communist exterior. The's still called the Communist Party,
but they're hypernationalistic, very militaristic, very totalitarian, and they're in

(26:36):
bed with very powerful oligarchs. They're basically now a corporatist
state at one party, corporatist state. That's Mussolini, that's fascism.
And they're militarily extremely aggressive, and they're bent on global domination.
So you know, to me, there's no question that China

(26:59):
is our number one foe, our number one adversary, and
the globalists are traders. They have set there. They have
put their lot in with the communist Chinese because they
believe ultimately they're joining the winning side. So everything goes
back to China. And if you look at our politicians. Seriously,

(27:20):
who isn't bought and paid for by communist China. Carl Rove,
he's in bed with the chi Coms. The Bushes, they're
in bed with the chi Coms. Miss McConnell, they're in
bed with the Chie's in bed with the chi Cooms.
Or him and his wife, Mitt Romney, he's in bed
with the chi coms. Pelosi, she's in bed with the
chi Cooms. The Bidens, they're in bed with the chi Coms.

(27:42):
The Obamas, they're in bed with the chi Coms. The Clintons,
they're in bed with the chi Coms. So the thing
about Trump, you have to keep remembering this. Why Trump
is a unique threat to the entire regime and establishment
is because he has not bought and paid for. The

(28:06):
Chinese don't own him. Just like, to be brutally honest
with you, they don't own this show. They don't own me,
and they don't own you. And that's why they're extremely
afraid of us. By the way, the big farmer companies,
the big farmers, they've made their bed in China. So there,

(28:28):
you know, So all of these vaccines and these drugs
they keep pushing and pushing and pushing where do you
think most of them are made. They're made in China.
That's why they're trying to destroy Trump's tariffs. They don't
want to restore the supply chain here. So in terms
of the larger picture, that's what's going on at the

(28:48):
more state, local level. They want your children, they want
my children. They want the China model. In China, they
control everything they put into their bodies. They tell them
how many vaccines, how often, they tell them we sterilize.
We don't sterilize one child, two child, three children. We

(29:12):
decide after one child. Now they've kind of abandoned that
a little bit, but for decades it was like, you
want a second child, you can't. You have one child.
After that you have to have an abortion. We will
force you to have an abortion, and if you don't
want to have an abortion, will sterilize you, and there's
nothing you can do about it. So censorship, that's all

(29:34):
the Chinese model. Everything they did during COVID, everything they
borrowed from communist China, the lockdowns from communist China, the
censorship from communist China. The mask mandates communist China, the
vaccine mandates communist China. So you have to understand that
Communist China has taken over the mantle from the Soviet Union,

(30:00):
and they're more powerful than the Soviets ever were. Frankly,
they're smarter than the Soviets ever were. They're economically much
more dynamic and wealthy than the Soviets ever were. I'm
not trying to scare people. Look, there's many problems with
communists China. The regime is brittle, there are many divisions

(30:20):
in China. They have serious problems. But what I'm just
trying to say is these guys aren't fooling around. Xi
Jinping is a very serious man. The Communist Chinese party leadership.
They are bribing and buying influence, not just in Washington,
not just the media. They're buying influence state by state,

(30:42):
state capital by state capital. And ultimately, the globalists want
our children. We can't give them our children. If they
take our children, they take away our families, they take
away our family, they take away our future. That's the stake,

(31:06):
that's that's that's what we're fighting. So you know, I
looked at all these conservatives after the Soviet Union collapsed,
like we won the Cold War. I'm like, what do
you guys, sober up and get out of the bar.
The Cold War's not over. You still got communists China.
What's the matter with you people? And now we're learning

(31:28):
it the hard way now. I think we will win,
but we can only win if we realize the threat,
wake up and confront it. Six one seven two six
six sixty eight sixty eight. I want to throw another
log on the fire, just a very quick log on
the fire, because I think it makes an absolutely fascinating point.

(31:53):
So you know, what are we talking about? All of
these laws that are now being passed in states New York, Connecticut, Maine, Minnesota,
many places, and now what they're trying to push here
in Massachusetts, which is ending religious exemptions for school mandated
vaccinations and your child, let's say you don't want your

(32:18):
child to be vaccinated for whatever reason, your child is
either being barred in these states or in Massachusetts if
these bills pass, will be barred, prevented from going to
daycare or kindergarten, elementary, middle, high school, public or private.
It doesn't matter. I want to read this because I

(32:40):
have to tell you I've been thinking about this now
for the last couple of weeks. Why do parents have
to rely on a religious exemption if they don't want
to vaccinate their children, Like, why, why why can't you
just say on conscience ground no, I'm sorry, I disagree.

(33:02):
I don't think it's in the best interests of my child.
Why do you have to claim or say it's religious
reasons or based on religious beliefs when it may not
be religious beliefs or it has nothing to do with religion.
It's just you as a parent or parents saying no,

(33:22):
we're just exercising our parental authority and we think we've
done research, We've looked into vaccines, and we don't think
it's the right thing for our child. Why can't we
just say that? I want to read this text It
six' oh three From New, Hampshire. Jeff one point about
this THAT i find incredibly disturbing and indeed infuriating is

(33:44):
the fact that citizens are having to rely solely on
religious exemptions to avoid taking any of these. Jabs and
this is coming from A Christian. Jeff don't get me,
WRONG i think there should be religious exemptions for anything
that would violate one's. Faith but whatever happened to being

(34:05):
a conscientious? Objector are we not allowed to object in
the land of The. Free there are plenty of people
out there who aren't necessarily, religious but who refuse to
put these big pharma chemical cocktails in their bodies and
the bodies of their children because they simply don't trust

(34:27):
the science behind, them and they feel that these mandates
are coming from a corrupt government who is working in
collusion with corrupt big, pharma that is using corrupted. STUDIES
a good majority of these, people and this is very,
true have done exhaustive homework into the subject and have

(34:50):
sought out qualified views that aren't corrupted by big pharma,
money and have found that many of them counter the official.
Narrative it's really a simple is that they just don't
trust what is being put forth as quote unquote death.
SCIENCE i saw this in particular with THE covid jab,

(35:16):
okay the EXPERIMENTAL mRNA. Technology many of the people who
didn't want it injected into them or into their, children
honestly were some of the best informed People i've ever
met in my. LIFE i, mean they didn't just Read ROBERT.
F kennedy's. Book they didn't just Read Alex Berenson's by the,

(35:37):
Way berenson's book was. Phenomenal, okay Former New York times.
Bestseller they didn't just read scientists after, scientist researcher after.
RESEARCHER i mean they the way they marshaled all of
the evidence and the. Facts in other, words many of.
Them i'm not sure they're even, religious or if they,
are you, know they're vaguely. Religious they may not go

(35:59):
to a particular church or a, denomination or go Every.
Sunday so, again why do they have to use a religious?
Exemption i'm with six so three all the. Way if
you say, No, Look i'm a, dutiful well, read well,
researched well informed, citizen AND i don't like these vaccines

(36:22):
for whatever. REASON i don't want them in my, body
AND i certainly don't want them in the body of our,
children in the bodies of our. Children what's wrong with? That,
LIKE i, agree why not be a what's wrong with
being a conscientious? Objector so you? Know to, me a

(36:42):
religious exemption is, AGAIN i like to be very honest and.
UPFRONT i don't like to make things. Up If i'm
opposing something on genuinely religious, grounds which is you're, right
then let it be truly on religious. Grounds the problem
now Is i'm not blaming people who do, this but
they figure or IF i don't apply for religious, exemption
they're going to force me to put something in my

(37:03):
body or in the bodies of my children THAT i don't. Want,
well what. HAPPENED i thought we were a free. Country
whatever happened to my, body my choice or in this,
case my children's, bodies the parent's. Choice, agree Disagree verna

(37:27):
in our. LinkedIn thanks for Holding verna and.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
Welcome Hi Jeff, rank you very, much blessings to you.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
All thank.

Speaker 5 (37:37):
YOU i really want to stress this. ONE i want
to Thank joe for his call a little while ago
to bring in the spiritual aspect, here because we really
do need this understanding the evil versus the. Good when
my children were, YOUNG i did not send them to public.
SCHOOL i knew from my own experience in public school
that it was not a, trustworthy reliable. Atmosphere this is

(38:00):
A Luciferian satanic agenda that's going on the whole. Thing
everybody that whatever they're saying this, morning this is a
completely Satanic luciferian agenda to take over the. World and
that's basically what's going. On what's going on to just bring.
EVIL i also grew up in basically A satanic oriented.

(38:21):
Family they played The wija board with. ME i was
a very good conductor of the demon spirits on the wigia.
Board let people know that this is all evil out.
There all of that stuff is evil and we need
to be very cognizant of. It i'm grateful for that
priest wherever it was That joe spoke about that people
need to be.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Vernic can You mike? Again? Boy you Really you'll love that.
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