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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Er Rob in Maine. Thanks for holding Rob and welcome.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yef.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
This bus this of uh of uh of. You know
Epstein committing suicide and I'm the King of France, as
you know. Uh. I did want to say something else,
you know about Summers. We like to help even people
on the other side. And now that president and uh
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and uh doctor Summers is is asking to be anonymous,
a little bit of anonymous. I have the perfect solution
to help him out. Behind bars, Rob.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
He's in trouble. Uh. He just resigned from his position
on the board that it just broke like maybe half
an hour ago at open AI so and basically he
resigned because they pushed him out. So, No, he's in trouble.
He's in big trouble. And I'm telling you if you're
if I'm Bill Clinton, I'm very worried. And if I'm Hillary,
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I'm very worried. And now if I'm Bill Gates, and
if I'm Reed Hoffman, these are some of the biggest
Democrat donors in the world. I'm worried. If I'm Obama,
I'm worried. There's a lot of Democrats now who I
think are realizing Oops, what did we just do Rob.
Do you think we're going to see actual people go
(03:22):
to jail finally? Are these pedophiles finally going to be
held to account? Or do you think this is just
more smoke and mirrors.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I think Chief as a lawyer, as he says, is
probably partially correct. I think the same old nonsense is
going to go on, and people are connected in Washington.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
A lot of people will get away, but I think
it's gone too far. I think the people will insist
that at least some of these knuckleheads spend time behind bars.
And Jeff, thanks for what you do, and I'll let
the other callers call in.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Thank you. I appreciate it. Rob. Listen, all I'm doing
is exposing the truth. I do it day after day
after day after day, and that's why I'm Liberalism's worst
nightmare and they know it. Bill in Sudbury, thanks for
holding Bill and welcome.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Hello, good morning, Good morning, Jeff.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Hi Bill.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
So I'm going to get to the Epstein thing. So
your position is that everybody who's named in these papers
is somehow slimmed by it except for Donald Trump. No,
everybody else.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
No, I never said that. I never said that. No,
you do this all the time. I mean, that's what
I mean. Again. Look, Bill, really, I don't understand if
you don't have the intelligence to comprehend what I'm saying,
or if you're just deliberately misrepresenting, But either way, you
got problems. So no, I'm interested in the names so
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we can investigate to find out if they were involved
in abusing underage girls. Now, for the five hundredth time
I asked you this, the last time you called, and
you couldn't give me an answer. Donald Trump severed relations
with Epstein in two thousand and six. Donald Trump from
that point forward had no contact with him whatsoever. That's
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a fact. Epstein pled guilty to soliciting sex from an
underage prostitute in two thousand and eight. Democrats all the
way till twenty nineteen partied with him, hung out with him,
texted with him, took money from him, and an overwhelming
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number went to orgy Island again and again and again.
And the victims say many of them were people like
Bill Clinton. Not one victim has accused Trump of any wrongdoing.
So this is a Democrat scandal. Now, where am I wrong? Bill?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
He is telling you the same thing. He's an ignorant, innocent.
Everybody around him is engaged in bad things, but he
has no idea about any of it. It's the same
lie he tells you over and over again.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
You honestly, Bill, can you hang on? Do me a favor,
Please hang on. I want to continue this conversation because
I think we need to have this conversation. So Bill
says that Trump is guilty. Six one seven two six
six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay, And
speaking of liberal bull, let's go right back to Bill
(06:36):
in Sudbury. Bill a moon bath. In fact, you know,
to be fair, I think you would consider himself a
moonbat's moon bat. Bill says that Trump is guilty. He's
guilty of something with Epstein. Quite hasn't told us what
that is. So I have two questions for Bill. Number one,
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you keep saying Trump is lying, what exactly is he
lying about? And number two, what evidence do you have concrete,
specific evidence that Trump molested an underage girl, had sex
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with an underage girl, was part of Epstein's pedophile sex
trafficking network Outside of just yelling, screaming, hollering, what actual
evidence do you have? Go Bill in Sudbury.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Is evolving story stinks, Jeff, that's what everybody has his explanations.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
What evolving story, Bill?
Speaker 4 (07:49):
They do not add up. Okay. The minute he faces
any scrutiny, he goes, oh, you just hate me.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
You're a moon bad, You're terrible.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Okay, okay, what evolving story?
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Bill?
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Well?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Okay, five weeks ago, back in July, he said there
was no list, that he was going to close the
investigation because there was no Epstein papers. Now he's saying,
why all these people are slimed by their presence in
the papers? So was he protecting Bill Clinton back in
July because that sounds, you know, stupid.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Well, Bill, Honestly, there emails, there are documents, there are videotapes.
We'll see if there's an actual client list or not.
But what does this prove? It proves nothing. Again, I
just asked you. This is what I mean, like, do
you listen to yourself? I'm really being honest. You live
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in an alternative reality. It's like a movie, a fantasy
land that you people live in. I just asked you
to say, what did he lie? You keep saying Trump
lied about Epstein? What did he lie? You can't name
me one lie Okay, So now I've asked you give
me specific evidence that he was involved in sex trafficking
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or sexually exploiting underage girls. Go, where's your evidence? Go?
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Do you think he was telling the truth when he
said if you can't about the Epstein files, you were
a weakling in contruct.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
That's not the issue. That's not the issue issue. No,
of course it's not. You're not answering my question because
you know there's no evidence. Look, I said this to
you the last time, and you had no rebuttal then,
and you have no rebuttal now. Virginia Giuffrey explicitly said
he never touched her. Alan Dershowitz, who is Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer,
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said that Epstein told him repeatedly Trump did nothing wrong.
So what I'm saying is every Jelaine Maxwell said Trump
never did anything wrong. In fact, there is not one
underage girl that has accused Trump of anything inappropriate, not one.
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So you're trying to tie him to something that there's
no evidence. Now, what I find incredible is you know
there's a mountain of evidence against Bill Clinton, yet you
don't want it. You don't want him to go to jail, right,
you don't want Rieed Hoffman to go to jail. Right,
you don't want Bill Gates to go to jail. Right.
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You don't want Stacy Plaskett to be censured. Right. You
don't want Takeem Jeffries to be forced out of office
because he was taking money from Epstein five years after
he was convicted of being a a pedophile, a sexual predator.
So when all the Democrats have been caught red handed
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with this guy, some of them literally diddling kids, you
say nothing. But with Trump, he said this, he said that,
he said that, he said this. So let me ask you,
point blank, did Donald Trump exploit or have sex with
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underage girls? Yes?
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Or no?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Is that what you're accusing him of?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
His evolving explanation?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Forget the evolving explanation, forget that, did he have sex
with underage girls? Yes or no?
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Forget that? Let's deal with me.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
No, no, no, no, that's what Epstein did. No no, no, no, no. Listen, buddy,
I get to ask the questions. It's my show, it's
not your show. So I'm asking you this is exactly
the crimes that Jeffrey Epstein committed. He slept with underage girls,
and he trafficked them. So my question to you is,
and that's what we want to know about these powerful,
wealthy people. Did they have sex with underage girls or
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they involved in trafficking them. That's the issue, not who
said what when? So did he have sex with underage
girls or did he traffic underage girls? Yes or no? Oh?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
That he had Thanksgiving dinner with Jeffrey Epstein on Thanksgiving
of twenty seventeen while president, would it make any difference
to you, because that's what's being alleged.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Now, who's alleging this? That he who wha wha whoa
whoa whoa whoa whoa. Boy, Bill, I got to tell you,
my friend, you shouldn't have said that because you just
hung yourself. You've really, I mean, you have no credibility
with this audience to begin with. You who went on
about the Russia collusion hoax, You who literally said keep
the oil in the ground, don't take oil out of
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the ground for four hundred years, because you don't even
know that oil literally replenishes itself. It's a renewable resource. So,
I mean, you've said some really stupid, outlandish things over
the years, but this one, Now, this, my friend, you
better walk it back. You're telling me that now you're
alleging that Donald Trump had Thanksgiving dinner in the White
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House with Jeffrey Epstein. Where's your evidence.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I don't think it was in the White House. I
think it was at mari A Lago.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Okay, it was at Mara a Lago. Let's go to
mari A Lago then, Bill, you're telling me that he
had Thanksgiving dinner with Jeffrey Epstein in mari A Lago.
What's your evidence? Bill?
Speaker 4 (13:22):
It's being announced on the on the media. What needs
it might be incorrect.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
But no, no, no, no, no, now it might be incorrect, right, No,
what media? No, No, tell me what media said this?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
People are telling me Jeffrey?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Whose people? Okay, fine, whose people? Which people? Bill?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
So no, no, no, no, Bill, you just said, Bill,
Come on, Bill, come on, be an honest man. You
said people are telling you which people told you?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Who are reporting on the recent emails?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Okay? Which reporter? What media outlet? Which reporter? What media
outlets said this?
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Several several different ones.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Give me one, Just give me one.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Go search it on AX.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
No, there's nothing on X Oh I disagree, Well you
could disagree all you want is, yeah, somebody tried to
smear him that over a week ago. Yes, Congressman Shancasting
of Illinois smeared him with that over a week ago,
and he had to immediately retract it because it was false.
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So you just slandered him. See Bill, you're a liar.
You're a liar, and you've just been exposed as a liar.
Six one seven. See that's now. Notice the foaming at
the mouth. Notice how rabid he is, Notice the grasping
at the straws.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
Notice that the media, the media, the media, well what media,
the x X somebody on X something somewhere. That's what's
going to bring them down this and they don't realize that.
The files now that are coming out, it's almost one
hundred percent to zero against the Democrats. Look, the only
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wild card in this is Pam Bondy. That's the only thing.
If Pam Bondy.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Has even a sentilla of guts or courage, powerful Democrats
are going to fall, and they're going to fall hard,
is it. Janine? Yeah, Janine in Arlington. Thanks for holding Janine,
and welcome.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Hi Jess. I'm going to try and I wrote the
fall Down.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
From really Janine, no matter what you say, you're going
to look like an absolute genius.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Now, oh thank you.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Well, that's because Bill. That's what Bill does for you.
So Janine, please have fun because you're you're not Janine,
You're suddenly you're Albert Einstein from Arlington. So go ahead, Janine.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
So well, we we'll shut Bill down. Because Trump had
back in I think it was two thousand and seven,
he was Epstein was thrown out of my alago because
of this bad behavior. But Trump and Epstein also had
bad blood over some property dealings that Trump ended up
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getting the property that Epstein wanted. So this started a
whole brawl between the two of them for an extended
period of time, obviously, and they never Epstein did not
get over it. So going forward, the problem I think
with some of the me too movement, if some of
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the callers was talking about, is that we have a
mix of real victims and then we have a mix
of legal aged escorts mixed in this.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Janine, can you do me a big favor. You were
making such an important point. Two six six sixty eight
sixty eight is the number. Okay, let's go right back
to Janine the genius in Arlington. She's on after Bill.
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She's an automatic genius. We you Bill and Sudbury. I
gotta tell you it's like, you know, Mike, whenever he
comes on, we should do like the sound from the
the theme sound from the theme song from the Twilight Zone,
you know then, and so just call it the Bill
from Sudbury's Zone. Anyway, let's go right back to Janine
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the Genius. Okay, Janine, you were making a really interesting point. Yes,
some of the victims were clearly underage girls victimized, effectively
kidnapped and then exploited by Epstein and his powerful friends.
But you said they were also legal escorts that were
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involved as well, and that were missing that nuanced point. Please, Janine,
pick up where you left off.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
So, I think we need to realize that some of
the we have a mix of victims and we have
a mix of age women, some of them are escorts.
Some of them are actually tied into the Emperor's Club
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Genlemen's Club, and if any of you remember that that
was actually tied into the Elliott Spitzer scandal back in
I think it was two thousand and eight, and so
some of those women are tied into that as well
that Epstein had at that island, So some of those
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victims standing up there aren't necessarily victims, but they were,
you know, workers working at the island mixed with some
of those victims in there. So I think that we
need to pay attention that not everything is what it seems.
And then going back to two thousand and eight, two
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thousand and nine.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
And hold on, I promise, I'll let you finish, but
I just want to just if you don't mind, just
for my own education here and in information, I've heard
about this that they were escorts. That Epstein liked to
use escorts as honey pots for his powerful friends and clients.
Were these escorts underage or eighteen and above, I'm just curious.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Actually, and upwards between twenty and twenty five, and he
was paying them quite a bit obviously quite a bit
of money. Some were getting houses. So these women were
going there under their own power.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
And you're saying they were twenty they were twenty to
twenty five years.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Old years old and over.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Oh interesting, okay.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Yes, so but they're standing up as victims behind my
majerie tailor green.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
So I think that we I think that she's I.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Don't know what, Martin, I don't know why MTG.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I think that.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
I don't know if this is going to serve her
well if this starts to really blow up. But I
don't know. I think this is just it's not a
good it's I know what she's trying to do. I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I hear what you're saying. Some of these victims are
not victims. They were sex workers, prostitutes, escort girls, whatever
you want to call them, who were above age, say
the age of consent, and who got paid and did
it for the money. And now they're trying to present
themselves as victims because Epstein, you know, the Epstein estate
is we're talking what is it a billion dollars from
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what I read yesterday, Correct me if I'm wrong, Jeanine,
I read this in several papers. Apparently the Epstein estate
has already paid out seven hundred and fifty million dollars
to a lot of these victims, and so so people
are saying, that's a lot of cash, that's a lot
of money. And some of these yes, there were clearly twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
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fifteen year old girls who were being victimized, there's no question.
But the other girls, other women were not victims, and
they want to get in on the cash cow. And
you know, seven hundred and fifty million is a ton
of money, Janine. Just to go back to something you
said earlier, you said something about two thousand and eight.
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What you're saying, that's when he pled guilty to soliciting
sex with a minor a prostitute. And then I want
to ask you a question. So you're saying, what two
thousand and eight to you, that's the watershed. In other words,
people who were involved with Epstein after then clearly knew
the kind of monster they were dealing with. Correct.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Correct, So Epstein's Florida cases in two thousand and eight,
and then Brad Edwards, who is a lawyer, he had
stepped in for seventy victims and owned So then Brad
Edwards had deposed a bunch of Democrats or you know,
political people and people that were kind of part of
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that case. And one of them was actually Trump. Trump
actually directly called Edwards and had a conversation with them
and said, hey, let's talk about it. I'm happy to
answer any of your questions. And he did. He answered
those questions. He was honest, he was helpful to Brad Edwards,
who was helping those victims back then, and because of
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the information that Trump gave him, Brad Edwards, the attorney
at the time, didn't end up deposing Trump because he
was so forthcoming with all of the information that actually
helped those victims. So, you know, this is I feel
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like the opening of these Epstein files is great, but
I think that the Democrats are just hoping for another
witch hunt.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Now.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
This information I got was through Substack articles from Jessica
Reid Krauss and j Beecher. I can't take the credit
for you know, well.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Substack is very good. I mean I read a lot
of writers on Substack. I think now it is the
true new media, and these are most of them are
actually liberals or center left people politically, I think they
most of them, and I probably wouldn't agree, but they're
old school journalists who are so sick of the corruption
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in the media, the fake news, establishment corporate media, that
they go, we just want to do on as journalism,
like and let the you know, cookie crumbles, you know,
let's just let the cookie crumble, however crumbles. And they
hate the agenda driven media, the propaganda media, and That's
why so much on substack is is very good, and
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that's why I read a lot of people on substack. Janine. Look,
I think there's two points that I think are very clear.
Number one, Epstein himself, and this is why the Democrats
now realize they just made a big mistake. Epstein himself,
in the emails that have come out, admits he has
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no information on Trump, no dirt on Trump, that he's
got nothing on Trump. And you're right. Trump has repeatedly
cooperated and given all the information he possibly could about Epstein.
So Epstein himself says that Trump was never involved with
underage girls or with a pedophile sex trafficking ring. And
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I think, now the bigger scandal, and this is already here,
This is now, it's breaking now as I speak to you,
Chuck Schumer, Chuck Schumer, Now this is going everywhere. In
twoenty nineteen, just several months before Epstein was charged with
sex trafficking, took thousands of dollars from Jeffrey Epstein. He
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was one of his biggest donors eleven years. As you
pointed out, after Epstein pled guilty to having sex with
a minor, so he was a convicted pedophile, and yet
Chuck Schumer was more than happy to take all that
money from Epstein. Now it's also coming out. And I've
talked about this in the past as well, and I
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promised you and I'm going to give you the last word.
Now it's come out. George Stephanopoulos, ABC News, Katie Couric,
then CBS News after he comes back from serving his
stint in jail. Epstein. Now, remember, he pleads guilty and
he does his little stint in Florida, so they know
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he's a convicted sex offender who's got a thing for
underage girls. He admitted to it, he pled guilty to it.
They sat down and had dinner with him. In fact,
there was a big lavish party. Top people from the
New York Times were there. Top people from the Washington
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Post were there, Top people from This is CNN were there.
ABC News, Stephie others were there. Katie Kuric, as I said,
was there. So the media knew the whole time who
Jeffrey Epstein was. They didn't care because he was part
of their elite, their club, and they all deliberately turned
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the blind eye. And you're right now, they're just praying,
hoping that They'll find something, anything in these files to
get Trump. That's what this is all about. It's not
about the victims. It's not about the truth, it's not
about justice. And I think they're gonna rue the day.
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They're gonna reap the whirlwind because this is not a
Republican scandal. This is a Democrat scandal and it's getting
more obvious by the day. Janine Quick, last word to you,
what say you?
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Well, I think that everybody should always just be skeptical
because we have to remember, we've got the mix of
we have the mix of victims. We've got Jiffrey, who's
now dead. She can't speak for herself, but she was
also accused of trying to get money out of Alan Dershowitz,
saying that he had put his hands on her when
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he didn't you know that we had one hundred and
twenty one million dollar victim fund that you know, kind
of started this whole thing. They're trying to they're trying
to make Trump the new Epstein and he just he
he's going to come out of this glowing, but it's
it's going it's going to be a fight, and you
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know the Democrats are this is this does not look
good for them, and MTG is going to go down
with them at this point. If she stands in front
of that too long, she's going to get run down.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
That's how I feel about interesting. Have you ever called
the show before?
Speaker 5 (28:03):
It's second call?
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Second call, Janine, don't Janine, the genius, Janine, Please don't
be a stranger. Call again, Janine, excellent call, really good call. Okay,
joining me now as she always does at this time,
Doctor Grace putting liberals in their place, Grace Voto full disclosure. Yes,
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you better believe it. I'm married up. She's my wonderful wife, Grace.
I know you feel so passionate about the Epstein files.
In a way, this is almost like a personal vindication
for you. You've been on a personal jihad to get justice
for these victims. The House passed it yesterday four hundred
and twenty seven to one, the Senate by unanimous consent.
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The bill is now going to Trump's desk. He will
sign it later today, forcing Pam Bondi and the DOJ
to release the Epstein files. What's your reaction, Jeff?
Speaker 7 (29:02):
Honestly, when I heard the news that the Senate then
passed by unanimous consent. I was in the car driving
Ashton around to one of his sports events. I was
in tears. I was overjoyed. I am delighted for those girls.
I think this is a very simple case. We have
to stand with the victims, and I want to see
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our president stand with the victims. And one of the
things that we have all noticed and we've been shocked,
is why has it been so hard for President Trump
to do what all of us feel instinctively he should do.
He should be the champion of these girls, and instead
he hasn't been. And the question we have all pondered
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is why. And because we've asked that question, the left
is going crazy thinking, oh, it must mean it's because
he did old girls too, and that's false. We know
that that's false because the girls have said he didn't
do that. But something is still wrong, and I want
to shed light on what that possibly is. Think about
what Donald Trump's life was while he was friends with Epstein.
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He was married to Marla Maples in those years that
he was friends with Epstein until nineteen ninety seven. He
divorced her in nineteen ninety nine officially, but they were
separated in nineteen ninety seven. So in those years that
he was partying with Epstein, he was a married man
for a portion of it, and he was obviously misbehaving
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as a married man. Then in nineteen ninety eight he
married that he met Milania in nineteen ninety eight, and
he courted her until he married her in two thousand
and five. So during the height of his courtship with
Milania until the moment that he married her in two
thousand and five, what I think he doesn't want to
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come out is that he was unfaithful. I think that
this is what he's hiding. He is now a person
who has remade his public image as a family man
and as somebody who later on in life found Christianity.
And what I think he doesn't want to come out
he doesn't want American school children and teenagers and the
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history books to just record over and over again how
unfaithful he was. And I also think he wants to
spare Millennia the pain and humiliation. But during those years
that he was courting her, that she might have the
most beautiful memories of the courtship, of the engagement, of
the days leading up to their marriage, that he was
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a blackball even then, that his whole relationship with Milania
has been a big lie.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Well, Greg, I don't mean to cut you off, but
I've got a I mean, of course I'm being tongue
in cheek here, but have you been talking to Bill
and Sudbury. I mean, this is pure speculation. I mean
what I'm saying is like, you know, I think this,
I think that I think you know, he fears what
you know. First of all, there's no evidence that he
cheated on Marlin Maples. There's no evidence that he cheated
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on Milgnia. I mean, yeah, there were rumors, but there's
no evidence. So that's number one number two. So I think, honestly,
you're kind of you're maligning the man. I'll be honest
with you. You're maligning him, and I don't think it's fair.
You know, that's number one number two. There's no evidence
whatsoever that there's you know, a videotape of him, or
(32:25):
pictures of him, or you know, having sex with other
women above age I mean, above the age of consent.
There's no evidence of any of this. So this is
all literally pure speculation. What we do know for a
fact is that he never touched an underage girl, and
he wasn't involved in sex trafficking. Those are the two
(32:48):
most damning things against Epstein and against the people that
he surrounded himself with, with these powerful, wealthy people. Now,
if Trump cheated or didn't cheat, Look, Millenia's a big girl.
You know she knows who Trump is. That's between her
and Trump. I don't think to be honest. After everything
(33:10):
Trump has been through, Stormy Daniels, devicious press attacks against
him as a philanderer, that suddenly now in twenty twenty five,
Donald Trump is worried that, ooh, Millennia may think I
cheated on her while we were married. I mean that
(33:31):
that train has left the station a long time ago.
So I would, all due respect, I think you're barking
up the wrong tree.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
What say you think to me?
Speaker 7 (33:41):
Jeff, listen to it just one second. There is evidence
during the Stormy Daniels trial, and one thing I always
disagreed with you on. I thought he didn't do anything illegal,
but I thought he definitely slept with Stormy Daniels. There
was a key moment when Hope Picks came on the stand.
Hop Picks loves Don Trump and crying on the stand,
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she said that he told her. Listen. I don't want
Melania to see the press reports about this, Okay, I
don't want her to see this because men think it's
cool if I slept with a prostitute, but women won't
think it's cool. So we don't have evidence about some
behavior that is very shady with women. So this is
(34:24):
not just la Jeff.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
This is a life.
Speaker 7 (34:29):
Let's just listen. You spoke, I'm speaking now. Listen, how
did his first marriage break up because he cheated on
the first wife with Marla Maples. This is a fact.
So he's been a cheater. Okay, he's been a cheater,
and I contend he's been a cheater his whole life.
But he's tried to remake his public image as much
more of a family man who found Christianity. But wink
(34:51):
wink with the boys, he kind of says a different story,
and that's who this guy is.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
And we know that.
Speaker 7 (34:57):
Now, this is what doesn't make sense to every Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
But Grace, but Grace, I gotta I gotta say he's
not running again, like you know, in terms of you know,
you're saying upholding his image. And the other thing is
I think he's just trying to protect his wife from
these nasty press reports. You know, I think it's not
an admission of guilt, it's you know, I don't want
my wife to read this. This is humiliating to my
wife because people are going to think it's true, or
(35:24):
some people are gonna think it's true. But look, we've
got about two minutes left in the interview. I just
got to ask you. We started off with Jeffrey Epstein,
We started off with a pedophile, a globalist sex trafficking network,
and now we're down to Marla Maples and Stormy Daniels
(35:45):
and Donald Trump maybe or maybe not cheating on Millennia, Like,
how did we get here? I mean, the point is
he's going to sign the bill, so it's all gonna
come out. So we're gonna know very soon what's in
the files. And my question to you is, do you
think there's any evidence there that Donald Trump did anything
(36:09):
illegal or was involved with Epstein, whether it be in
trafficking young girls or in engaging and inappropriate behavior with
underage girls.
Speaker 7 (36:21):
I do not think he did anything illegal, but I
think he conducted himself in an immoral and ungentlemanly manner,
and I think that's why he doesn't seem to be
a champion of these girls, and that's why he's been stalling.
That's why he's involved in a cover up. That's why
we've had to get him to sign this kicking and screaming.
That's why he's accusing Madrie Taylor Green of being a
quote unquote trader. I think it's because he doesn't want
(36:44):
to be embarrassed by his past behavior. But it's not illegal,
just immoral and sleazy. As a man who was telling
women that he was in an amorous relationship with a
different story, he doesn't want all that to come out.
It's embarrassing for his children, or his wife, for his grandchildren.
I think that's what he's hiding.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
M Look, let me let me ask you this. We
got about a minute left once these files are released,
and there's nothing in there about Trump sleeping with other women,
cheating on his wife, having amorous relationships, as you put it,
will you publicly apologize to Trump? Basically, I almost need
(37:26):
a yes or no answer.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
Oh. I want him to apologize to me for calling
me stupid, for rapping for the Epstein file to be released,
and apologize to Mantri Taylor Green for calling her a
trader for defending these girls.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Well, she's calling him a trader, I mean, you know
what I mean now, it's she's calling him a trader too,
now so, and she's called a lot of people traders,
so you know her hands are not clean either. Now, look,
he shouldn't have said people are dumb and stupid, you know,
for having wanting the Epstein files to be released. That
was a mistake. But you know I wouldn't take it
(37:58):
so personally, grace honestly, you know, I mean, look, I
wanted the Epstein files released. You know, he's basically he said,
I'm stupid too,
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Er Rob in Maine. Thanks for holding Rob and welcome.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yef.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
This bus this of uh of uh of. You know
Epstein committing suicide and I'm the King of France, as
you know. Uh. I did want to say something else,
you know about Summers. We like to help even people
on the other side. And now that president and uh
(02:26):
and uh doctor Summers is is asking to be anonymous,
a little bit of anonymous. I have the perfect solution
to help him out. Behind bars, Rob.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
He's in trouble. Uh. He just resigned from his position
on the board that it just broke like maybe half
an hour ago at open AI so and basically he
resigned because they pushed him out. So, No, he's in trouble.
He's in big trouble. And I'm telling you if you're
if I'm Bill Clinton, I'm very worried. And if I'm Hillary,
(02:59):
I'm very worried. And now if I'm Bill Gates, and
if I'm Reed Hoffman, these are some of the biggest
Democrat donors in the world. I'm worried. If I'm Obama,
I'm worried. There's a lot of Democrats now who I
think are realizing Oops, what did we just do Rob.
Do you think we're going to see actual people go
(03:22):
to jail finally? Are these pedophiles finally going to be
held to account? Or do you think this is just
more smoke and mirrors.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I think Chief as a lawyer, as he says, is
probably partially correct. I think the same old nonsense is
going to go on, and people are connected in Washington.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
A lot of people will get away, but I think
it's gone too far. I think the people will insist
that at least some of these knuckleheads spend time behind bars.
And Jeff, thanks for what you do, and I'll let
the other callers call in.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Thank you. I appreciate it. Rob. Listen, all I'm doing
is exposing the truth. I do it day after day
after day after day, and that's why I'm Liberalism's worst
nightmare and they know it. Bill in Sudbury, thanks for
holding Bill and welcome.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Hello, good morning, Good morning, Jeff.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Hi Bill.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
So I'm going to get to the Epstein thing. So
your position is that everybody who's named in these papers
is somehow slimmed by it except for Donald Trump. No,
everybody else.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
No, I never said that. I never said that. No,
you do this all the time. I mean, that's what
I mean. Again. Look, Bill, really, I don't understand if
you don't have the intelligence to comprehend what I'm saying,
or if you're just deliberately misrepresenting, But either way, you
got problems. So no, I'm interested in the names so
(04:50):
we can investigate to find out if they were involved
in abusing underage girls. Now, for the five hundredth time
I asked you this, the last time you called, and
you couldn't give me an answer. Donald Trump severed relations
with Epstein in two thousand and six. Donald Trump from
that point forward had no contact with him whatsoever. That's
(05:13):
a fact. Epstein pled guilty to soliciting sex from an
underage prostitute in two thousand and eight. Democrats all the
way till twenty nineteen partied with him, hung out with him,
texted with him, took money from him, and an overwhelming
(05:37):
number went to orgy Island again and again and again.
And the victims say many of them were people like
Bill Clinton. Not one victim has accused Trump of any wrongdoing.
So this is a Democrat scandal. Now, where am I wrong? Bill?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
He is telling you the same thing. He's an ignorant, innocent.
Everybody around him is engaged in bad things, but he
has no idea about any of it. It's the same
lie he tells you over and over again.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
You honestly, Bill, can you hang on? Do me a favor,
Please hang on. I want to continue this conversation because
I think we need to have this conversation. So Bill
says that Trump is guilty. Six one seven two six
six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay, And
speaking of liberal bull, let's go right back to Bill
(06:36):
in Sudbury. Bill a moon bath. In fact, you know,
to be fair, I think you would consider himself a
moonbat's moon bat. Bill says that Trump is guilty. He's
guilty of something with Epstein. Quite hasn't told us what
that is. So I have two questions for Bill. Number one,
(06:58):
you keep saying Trump is lying, what exactly is he
lying about? And number two, what evidence do you have concrete,
specific evidence that Trump molested an underage girl, had sex
(07:19):
with an underage girl, was part of Epstein's pedophile sex
trafficking network Outside of just yelling, screaming, hollering, what actual
evidence do you have? Go Bill in Sudbury.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Is evolving story stinks, Jeff, that's what everybody has his explanations.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
What evolving story, Bill?
Speaker 4 (07:49):
They do not add up. Okay. The minute he faces
any scrutiny, he goes, oh, you just hate me.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
You're a moon bad, You're terrible.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Okay, okay, what evolving story?
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Bill?
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Well?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Okay, five weeks ago, back in July, he said there
was no list, that he was going to close the
investigation because there was no Epstein papers. Now he's saying,
why all these people are slimed by their presence in
the papers? So was he protecting Bill Clinton back in
July because that sounds, you know, stupid.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Well, Bill, Honestly, there emails, there are documents, there are videotapes.
We'll see if there's an actual client list or not.
But what does this prove? It proves nothing. Again, I
just asked you. This is what I mean, like, do
you listen to yourself? I'm really being honest. You live
(08:41):
in an alternative reality. It's like a movie, a fantasy
land that you people live in. I just asked you
to say, what did he lie? You keep saying Trump
lied about Epstein? What did he lie? You can't name
me one lie Okay, So now I've asked you give
me specific evidence that he was involved in sex trafficking
(09:02):
or sexually exploiting underage girls. Go, where's your evidence? Go?
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Do you think he was telling the truth when he
said if you can't about the Epstein files, you were
a weakling in contruct.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
That's not the issue. That's not the issue issue. No,
of course it's not. You're not answering my question because
you know there's no evidence. Look, I said this to
you the last time, and you had no rebuttal then,
and you have no rebuttal now. Virginia Giuffrey explicitly said
he never touched her. Alan Dershowitz, who is Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer,
(09:40):
said that Epstein told him repeatedly Trump did nothing wrong.
So what I'm saying is every Jelaine Maxwell said Trump
never did anything wrong. In fact, there is not one
underage girl that has accused Trump of anything inappropriate, not one.
(10:01):
So you're trying to tie him to something that there's
no evidence. Now, what I find incredible is you know
there's a mountain of evidence against Bill Clinton, yet you
don't want it. You don't want him to go to jail, right,
you don't want Rieed Hoffman to go to jail. Right,
you don't want Bill Gates to go to jail. Right.
(10:23):
You don't want Stacy Plaskett to be censured. Right. You
don't want Takeem Jeffries to be forced out of office
because he was taking money from Epstein five years after
he was convicted of being a a pedophile, a sexual predator.
So when all the Democrats have been caught red handed
(10:45):
with this guy, some of them literally diddling kids, you
say nothing. But with Trump, he said this, he said that,
he said that, he said this. So let me ask you,
point blank, did Donald Trump exploit or have sex with
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underage girls? Yes?
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Or no?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Is that what you're accusing him of?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
His evolving explanation?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Forget the evolving explanation, forget that, did he have sex
with underage girls? Yes or no?
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Forget that? Let's deal with me.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
No, no, no, no, that's what Epstein did. No no, no, no, no. Listen, buddy,
I get to ask the questions. It's my show, it's
not your show. So I'm asking you this is exactly
the crimes that Jeffrey Epstein committed. He slept with underage girls,
and he trafficked them. So my question to you is,
and that's what we want to know about these powerful,
wealthy people. Did they have sex with underage girls or
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they involved in trafficking them. That's the issue, not who
said what when? So did he have sex with underage
girls or did he traffic underage girls? Yes or no? Oh?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
That he had Thanksgiving dinner with Jeffrey Epstein on Thanksgiving
of twenty seventeen while president, would it make any difference
to you, because that's what's being alleged.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Now, who's alleging this? That he who wha wha whoa
whoa whoa whoa whoa. Boy, Bill, I got to tell you,
my friend, you shouldn't have said that because you just
hung yourself. You've really, I mean, you have no credibility
with this audience to begin with. You who went on
about the Russia collusion hoax, You who literally said keep
the oil in the ground, don't take oil out of
(12:38):
the ground for four hundred years, because you don't even
know that oil literally replenishes itself. It's a renewable resource. So,
I mean, you've said some really stupid, outlandish things over
the years, but this one, Now, this, my friend, you
better walk it back. You're telling me that now you're
alleging that Donald Trump had Thanksgiving dinner in the White
(13:03):
House with Jeffrey Epstein. Where's your evidence.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I don't think it was in the White House. I
think it was at mari A Lago.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Okay, it was at Mara a Lago. Let's go to
mari A Lago then, Bill, you're telling me that he
had Thanksgiving dinner with Jeffrey Epstein in mari A Lago.
What's your evidence? Bill?
Speaker 4 (13:22):
It's being announced on the on the media. What needs
it might be incorrect.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
But no, no, no, no, no, now it might be incorrect, right, No,
what media? No, No, tell me what media said this?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
People are telling me Jeffrey?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Whose people? Okay, fine, whose people? Which people? Bill?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
So no, no, no, no, Bill, you just said, Bill,
Come on, Bill, come on, be an honest man. You
said people are telling you which people told you?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Who are reporting on the recent emails?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Okay? Which reporter? What media outlet? Which reporter? What media
outlets said this?
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Several several different ones.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Give me one, Just give me one.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Go search it on AX.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
No, there's nothing on X Oh I disagree, Well you
could disagree all you want is, yeah, somebody tried to
smear him that over a week ago. Yes, Congressman Shancasting
of Illinois smeared him with that over a week ago,
and he had to immediately retract it because it was false.
(14:26):
So you just slandered him. See Bill, you're a liar.
You're a liar, and you've just been exposed as a liar.
Six one seven. See that's now. Notice the foaming at
the mouth. Notice how rabid he is, Notice the grasping
at the straws.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
Notice that the media, the media, the media, well what media,
the x X somebody on X something somewhere. That's what's
going to bring them down this and they don't realize that.
The files now that are coming out, it's almost one
hundred percent to zero against the Democrats. Look, the only
(15:09):
wild card in this is Pam Bondy. That's the only thing.
If Pam Bondy.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Has even a sentilla of guts or courage, powerful Democrats
are going to fall, and they're going to fall hard,
is it. Janine? Yeah, Janine in Arlington. Thanks for holding Janine,
and welcome.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Hi Jess. I'm going to try and I wrote the
fall Down.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
From really Janine, no matter what you say, you're going
to look like an absolute genius.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Now, oh thank you.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Well, that's because Bill. That's what Bill does for you.
So Janine, please have fun because you're you're not Janine,
You're suddenly you're Albert Einstein from Arlington. So go ahead, Janine.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
So well, we we'll shut Bill down. Because Trump had
back in I think it was two thousand and seven,
he was Epstein was thrown out of my alago because
of this bad behavior. But Trump and Epstein also had
bad blood over some property dealings that Trump ended up
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getting the property that Epstein wanted. So this started a
whole brawl between the two of them for an extended
period of time, obviously, and they never Epstein did not
get over it. So going forward, the problem I think
with some of the me too movement, if some of
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the callers was talking about, is that we have a
mix of real victims and then we have a mix
of legal aged escorts mixed in this.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Janine, can you do me a big favor. You were
making such an important point. Two six six sixty eight
sixty eight is the number. Okay, let's go right back
to Janine the genius in Arlington. She's on after Bill.
(17:13):
She's an automatic genius. We you Bill and Sudbury. I
gotta tell you it's like, you know, Mike, whenever he
comes on, we should do like the sound from the
the theme sound from the theme song from the Twilight Zone,
you know then, and so just call it the Bill
from Sudbury's Zone. Anyway, let's go right back to Janine
(17:37):
the Genius. Okay, Janine, you were making a really interesting point. Yes,
some of the victims were clearly underage girls victimized, effectively
kidnapped and then exploited by Epstein and his powerful friends.
But you said they were also legal escorts that were
(17:57):
involved as well, and that were missing that nuanced point. Please, Janine,
pick up where you left off.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
So, I think we need to realize that some of
the we have a mix of victims and we have
a mix of age women, some of them are escorts.
Some of them are actually tied into the Emperor's Club
(18:27):
Genlemen's Club, and if any of you remember that that
was actually tied into the Elliott Spitzer scandal back in
I think it was two thousand and eight, and so
some of those women are tied into that as well
that Epstein had at that island, So some of those
(18:48):
victims standing up there aren't necessarily victims, but they were,
you know, workers working at the island mixed with some
of those victims in there. So I think that we
need to pay attention that not everything is what it seems.
And then going back to two thousand and eight, two
(19:08):
thousand and nine.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
And hold on, I promise, I'll let you finish, but
I just want to just if you don't mind, just
for my own education here and in information, I've heard
about this that they were escorts. That Epstein liked to
use escorts as honey pots for his powerful friends and clients.
Were these escorts underage or eighteen and above, I'm just curious.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Actually, and upwards between twenty and twenty five, and he
was paying them quite a bit obviously quite a bit
of money. Some were getting houses. So these women were
going there under their own power.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
And you're saying they were twenty they were twenty to
twenty five years.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Old years old and over.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Oh interesting, okay.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Yes, so but they're standing up as victims behind my
majerie tailor green.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
So I think that we I think that she's I.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Don't know what, Martin, I don't know why MTG.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I think that.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
I don't know if this is going to serve her
well if this starts to really blow up. But I
don't know. I think this is just it's not a
good it's I know what she's trying to do. I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I hear what you're saying. Some of these victims are
not victims. They were sex workers, prostitutes, escort girls, whatever
you want to call them, who were above age, say
the age of consent, and who got paid and did
it for the money. And now they're trying to present
themselves as victims because Epstein, you know, the Epstein estate
is we're talking what is it a billion dollars from
(20:45):
what I read yesterday, Correct me if I'm wrong, Jeanine,
I read this in several papers. Apparently the Epstein estate
has already paid out seven hundred and fifty million dollars
to a lot of these victims, and so so people
are saying, that's a lot of cash, that's a lot
of money. And some of these yes, there were clearly twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
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fifteen year old girls who were being victimized, there's no question.
But the other girls, other women were not victims, and
they want to get in on the cash cow. And
you know, seven hundred and fifty million is a ton
of money, Janine. Just to go back to something you
said earlier, you said something about two thousand and eight.
(21:28):
What you're saying, that's when he pled guilty to soliciting
sex with a minor a prostitute. And then I want
to ask you a question. So you're saying, what two
thousand and eight to you, that's the watershed. In other words,
people who were involved with Epstein after then clearly knew
the kind of monster they were dealing with. Correct.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Correct, So Epstein's Florida cases in two thousand and eight,
and then Brad Edwards, who is a lawyer, he had
stepped in for seventy victims and owned So then Brad
Edwards had deposed a bunch of Democrats or you know,
political people and people that were kind of part of
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that case. And one of them was actually Trump. Trump
actually directly called Edwards and had a conversation with them
and said, hey, let's talk about it. I'm happy to
answer any of your questions. And he did. He answered
those questions. He was honest, he was helpful to Brad Edwards,
who was helping those victims back then, and because of
(22:33):
the information that Trump gave him, Brad Edwards, the attorney
at the time, didn't end up deposing Trump because he
was so forthcoming with all of the information that actually
helped those victims. So, you know, this is I feel
(22:53):
like the opening of these Epstein files is great, but
I think that the Democrats are just hoping for another
witch hunt.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Now.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
This information I got was through Substack articles from Jessica
Reid Krauss and j Beecher. I can't take the credit
for you know, well.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Substack is very good. I mean I read a lot
of writers on Substack. I think now it is the
true new media, and these are most of them are
actually liberals or center left people politically, I think they
most of them, and I probably wouldn't agree, but they're
old school journalists who are so sick of the corruption
(23:31):
in the media, the fake news, establishment corporate media, that
they go, we just want to do on as journalism,
like and let the you know, cookie crumbles, you know,
let's just let the cookie crumble, however crumbles. And they
hate the agenda driven media, the propaganda media, and That's
why so much on substack is is very good, and
(23:51):
that's why I read a lot of people on substack. Janine. Look,
I think there's two points that I think are very clear.
Number one, Epstein himself, and this is why the Democrats
now realize they just made a big mistake. Epstein himself,
in the emails that have come out, admits he has
(24:11):
no information on Trump, no dirt on Trump, that he's
got nothing on Trump. And you're right. Trump has repeatedly
cooperated and given all the information he possibly could about Epstein.
So Epstein himself says that Trump was never involved with
underage girls or with a pedophile sex trafficking ring. And
(24:36):
I think, now the bigger scandal, and this is already here,
This is now, it's breaking now as I speak to you,
Chuck Schumer, Chuck Schumer, Now this is going everywhere. In
twoenty nineteen, just several months before Epstein was charged with
sex trafficking, took thousands of dollars from Jeffrey Epstein. He
(24:59):
was one of his biggest donors eleven years. As you
pointed out, after Epstein pled guilty to having sex with
a minor, so he was a convicted pedophile, and yet
Chuck Schumer was more than happy to take all that
money from Epstein. Now it's also coming out. And I've
talked about this in the past as well, and I
(25:21):
promised you and I'm going to give you the last word.
Now it's come out. George Stephanopoulos, ABC News, Katie Couric,
then CBS News after he comes back from serving his
stint in jail. Epstein. Now, remember, he pleads guilty and
he does his little stint in Florida, so they know
(25:41):
he's a convicted sex offender who's got a thing for
underage girls. He admitted to it, he pled guilty to it.
They sat down and had dinner with him. In fact,
there was a big lavish party. Top people from the
New York Times were there. Top people from the Washington
(26:02):
Post were there, Top people from This is CNN were there.
ABC News, Stephie others were there. Katie Kuric, as I said,
was there. So the media knew the whole time who
Jeffrey Epstein was. They didn't care because he was part
of their elite, their club, and they all deliberately turned
(26:26):
the blind eye. And you're right now, they're just praying,
hoping that They'll find something, anything in these files to
get Trump. That's what this is all about. It's not
about the victims. It's not about the truth, it's not
about justice. And I think they're gonna rue the day.
(26:46):
They're gonna reap the whirlwind because this is not a
Republican scandal. This is a Democrat scandal and it's getting
more obvious by the day. Janine Quick, last word to you,
what say you?
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Well, I think that everybody should always just be skeptical
because we have to remember, we've got the mix of
we have the mix of victims. We've got Jiffrey, who's
now dead. She can't speak for herself, but she was
also accused of trying to get money out of Alan Dershowitz,
saying that he had put his hands on her when
(27:23):
he didn't you know that we had one hundred and
twenty one million dollar victim fund that you know, kind
of started this whole thing. They're trying to they're trying
to make Trump the new Epstein and he just he
he's going to come out of this glowing, but it's
it's going it's going to be a fight, and you
(27:43):
know the Democrats are this is this does not look
good for them, and MTG is going to go down
with them at this point. If she stands in front
of that too long, she's going to get run down.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
That's how I feel about interesting. Have you ever called
the show before?
Speaker 5 (28:03):
It's second call?
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Second call, Janine, don't Janine, the genius, Janine, Please don't
be a stranger. Call again, Janine, excellent call, really good call. Okay,
joining me now as she always does at this time,
Doctor Grace putting liberals in their place, Grace Voto full disclosure. Yes,
(28:27):
you better believe it. I'm married up. She's my wonderful wife, Grace.
I know you feel so passionate about the Epstein files.
In a way, this is almost like a personal vindication
for you. You've been on a personal jihad to get justice
for these victims. The House passed it yesterday four hundred
and twenty seven to one, the Senate by unanimous consent.
(28:50):
The bill is now going to Trump's desk. He will
sign it later today, forcing Pam Bondi and the DOJ
to release the Epstein files. What's your reaction, Jeff?
Speaker 7 (29:02):
Honestly, when I heard the news that the Senate then
passed by unanimous consent. I was in the car driving
Ashton around to one of his sports events. I was
in tears. I was overjoyed. I am delighted for those girls.
I think this is a very simple case. We have
to stand with the victims, and I want to see
(29:23):
our president stand with the victims. And one of the
things that we have all noticed and we've been shocked,
is why has it been so hard for President Trump
to do what all of us feel instinctively he should do.
He should be the champion of these girls, and instead
he hasn't been. And the question we have all pondered
(29:46):
is why. And because we've asked that question, the left
is going crazy thinking, oh, it must mean it's because
he did old girls too, and that's false. We know
that that's false because the girls have said he didn't
do that. But something is still wrong, and I want
to shed light on what that possibly is. Think about
what Donald Trump's life was while he was friends with Epstein.
(30:11):
He was married to Marla Maples in those years that
he was friends with Epstein until nineteen ninety seven. He
divorced her in nineteen ninety nine officially, but they were
separated in nineteen ninety seven. So in those years that
he was partying with Epstein, he was a married man
for a portion of it, and he was obviously misbehaving
(30:33):
as a married man. Then in nineteen ninety eight he
married that he met Milania in nineteen ninety eight, and
he courted her until he married her in two thousand
and five. So during the height of his courtship with
Milania until the moment that he married her in two
thousand and five, what I think he doesn't want to
(30:54):
come out is that he was unfaithful. I think that
this is what he's hiding. He is now a person
who has remade his public image as a family man
and as somebody who later on in life found Christianity.
And what I think he doesn't want to come out
he doesn't want American school children and teenagers and the
(31:14):
history books to just record over and over again how
unfaithful he was. And I also think he wants to
spare Millennia the pain and humiliation. But during those years
that he was courting her, that she might have the
most beautiful memories of the courtship, of the engagement, of
the days leading up to their marriage, that he was
(31:37):
a blackball even then, that his whole relationship with Milania
has been a big lie.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Well, Greg, I don't mean to cut you off, but
I've got a I mean, of course I'm being tongue
in cheek here, but have you been talking to Bill
and Sudbury. I mean, this is pure speculation. I mean
what I'm saying is like, you know, I think this,
I think that I think you know, he fears what
you know. First of all, there's no evidence that he
cheated on Marlin Maples. There's no evidence that he cheated
(32:04):
on Milgnia. I mean, yeah, there were rumors, but there's
no evidence. So that's number one number two. So I think, honestly,
you're kind of you're maligning the man. I'll be honest
with you. You're maligning him, and I don't think it's fair.
You know, that's number one number two. There's no evidence
whatsoever that there's you know, a videotape of him, or
(32:25):
pictures of him, or you know, having sex with other
women above age I mean, above the age of consent.
There's no evidence of any of this. So this is
all literally pure speculation. What we do know for a
fact is that he never touched an underage girl, and
he wasn't involved in sex trafficking. Those are the two
(32:48):
most damning things against Epstein and against the people that
he surrounded himself with, with these powerful, wealthy people. Now,
if Trump cheated or didn't cheat, Look, Millenia's a big girl.
You know she knows who Trump is. That's between her
and Trump. I don't think to be honest. After everything
(33:10):
Trump has been through, Stormy Daniels, devicious press attacks against
him as a philanderer, that suddenly now in twenty twenty five,
Donald Trump is worried that, ooh, Millennia may think I
cheated on her while we were married. I mean that
(33:31):
that train has left the station a long time ago.
So I would, all due respect, I think you're barking
up the wrong tree.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
What say you think to me?
Speaker 7 (33:41):
Jeff, listen to it just one second. There is evidence
during the Stormy Daniels trial, and one thing I always
disagreed with you on. I thought he didn't do anything illegal,
but I thought he definitely slept with Stormy Daniels. There
was a key moment when Hope Picks came on the stand.
Hop Picks loves Don Trump and crying on the stand,
(34:03):
she said that he told her. Listen. I don't want
Melania to see the press reports about this, Okay, I
don't want her to see this because men think it's
cool if I slept with a prostitute, but women won't
think it's cool. So we don't have evidence about some
behavior that is very shady with women. So this is
(34:24):
not just la Jeff.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
This is a life.
Speaker 7 (34:29):
Let's just listen. You spoke, I'm speaking now. Listen, how
did his first marriage break up because he cheated on
the first wife with Marla Maples. This is a fact.
So he's been a cheater. Okay, he's been a cheater,
and I contend he's been a cheater his whole life.
But he's tried to remake his public image as much
more of a family man who found Christianity. But wink
(34:51):
wink with the boys, he kind of says a different story,
and that's who this guy is.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
And we know that.
Speaker 7 (34:57):
Now, this is what doesn't make sense to every Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
But Grace, but Grace, I gotta I gotta say he's
not running again, like you know, in terms of you know,
you're saying upholding his image. And the other thing is
I think he's just trying to protect his wife from
these nasty press reports. You know, I think it's not
an admission of guilt, it's you know, I don't want
my wife to read this. This is humiliating to my
wife because people are going to think it's true, or
(35:24):
some people are gonna think it's true. But look, we've
got about two minutes left in the interview. I just
got to ask you. We started off with Jeffrey Epstein,
We started off with a pedophile, a globalist sex trafficking network,
and now we're down to Marla Maples and Stormy Daniels
(35:45):
and Donald Trump maybe or maybe not cheating on Millennia, Like,
how did we get here? I mean, the point is
he's going to sign the bill, so it's all gonna
come out. So we're gonna know very soon what's in
the files. And my question to you is, do you
think there's any evidence there that Donald Trump did anything
(36:09):
illegal or was involved with Epstein, whether it be in
trafficking young girls or in engaging and inappropriate behavior with
underage girls.
Speaker 7 (36:21):
I do not think he did anything illegal, but I
think he conducted himself in an immoral and ungentlemanly manner,
and I think that's why he doesn't seem to be
a champion of these girls, and that's why he's been stalling.
That's why he's involved in a cover up. That's why
we've had to get him to sign this kicking and screaming.
That's why he's accusing Madrie Taylor Green of being a
quote unquote trader. I think it's because he doesn't want
(36:44):
to be embarrassed by his past behavior. But it's not illegal,
just immoral and sleazy. As a man who was telling
women that he was in an amorous relationship with a
different story, he doesn't want all that to come out.
It's embarrassing for his children, or his wife, for his grandchildren.
I think that's what he's hiding.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
M Look, let me let me ask you this. We
got about a minute left once these files are released,
and there's nothing in there about Trump sleeping with other women,
cheating on his wife, having amorous relationships, as you put it,
will you publicly apologize to Trump? Basically, I almost need
(37:26):
a yes or no answer.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
Oh. I want him to apologize to me for calling
me stupid, for rapping for the Epstein file to be released,
and apologize to Mantri Taylor Green for calling her a
trader for defending these girls.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Well, she's calling him a trader, I mean, you know
what I mean now, it's she's calling him a trader too,
now so, and she's called a lot of people traders,
so you know her hands are not clean either. Now, look,
he shouldn't have said people are dumb and stupid, you know,
for having wanting the Epstein files to be released. That
was a mistake. But you know I wouldn't take it
(37:58):
so personally, grace honestly, you know, I mean, look, I
wanted the Epstein files released. You know, he's basically he said,
I'm stupid too,
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