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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Boston's Bulldozer never sleeps The Kooner Report weekend edition on
the Voice of Boston Wrko.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, joining me now as she always does at this time,
I am dying to get her take on this, Doctor
Grace putting liberals in their place, Grace Vuoto full disclosure,
my wonderful wife, and yes, the Cooner Man married up Grace.
Welcome back to the Kooner Report. As always, I want
(00:28):
to play one cut for you, and I want you
to just jump right off of that cut. This is
Trump at the Oval Office yesterday. He's asked by a
reporter Tulca Gabbert, Director of National Intelligence, has now officially
submitted a criminal referral to the Department of Justice regarding
the Russia collusion hoax and all the documents that she's declassified.
(00:52):
He's then asked, who do you think the DOJ should
target as part of now their investigation. To Trump's response,
it's a declaration of war against Obama and his criminal gang.
Roll cut two, Mike.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Sat has submitted a criminal referral to the Department of Justice.
From your perspective, who should the DOJ target as part
of their investigation? What specific figures in the Obama administration.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Well, based on what I read, and I read pretty
much what you read, it would be President Obama he
started it, and Biden was there with him, and Komi
was there, and Clapper, the whole group was there.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Brett, he goes Brennan and then he says, they were
all there in that room right there, right here, He
goes the room that I'm sitting in. They were all
right here in that infamous meeting where the decision was made.
We're going to manufacture intelligence. We're going to frame Trump.
We're going to try to claim he was an agent
(01:59):
of Russia, even though we know it's a lie and
we know it's false. In other words, we're implementing a
coup against the incoming president of the United States. Grace,
what's going to happen next?
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Well, Jeff, thank you so much for having me on. Look,
what Telsea is doing is absolutely amazing. She is a
real patriot, She is really tough. She is untangling this
spider web that they wove, So we have to give
her all the credit for this incredible job. Having said that, Jeff,
(02:39):
I am just concerned that Washington is going to bury
this as they always do, including Republicans who participate in
the burial of devastating information. They refer it to you know,
long committee hearings, big reports, and by the time they're
(02:59):
done with it, and by the time the lawyers take
a look at everything, they've parsed the situation into insignificance.
So my concern is, as much as you and I
and Kooner country know the truth, I don't know if
we're ever going to have that satisfaction that we're all
looking for to really get justice for what happened to
(03:19):
the president in that first election and to the whole country.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Grace the fact now that Trump is so publicly, vehemently, vigorously,
boldly weighed in on this. He went as far as
he could possibly say, indict him, indict all of them,
putting tremendous pressure now on PAMBONDI has that changed everything?
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Well, it's just that the way that he said it
was like an off the cuff comment at a press conference.
It certainly, you know, added a lot of fuel to
the fire. But I I think if we're going to
really take this to the next level, it does have
to come with some kind of certainty from the Department
(04:10):
of Justice that they're going to do something, and then
that's going to have to be matched with a really
formal address to the nation. I mean, you can't go
after an entire previous administration. We're not talking about just
going after one person. We're going after the heads of intelligence,
We're going after the head of FBI. This was a massive, massive,
(04:30):
massive effort to disrupt the will of the people. I
think it is going to take more than just an
off the cuff comment like he made. But he would
only be able to address the nation formally once he
knows for sure that the Department of Justice is going
to do something, and I'm not sure that they will
do anything, Jeff. That's my concern. My concern is I
know how the swamp operates. The law is exercised fitfully,
(04:56):
and the truth is usually buried in committee. That's the
summary of why Washington DC.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Well, the DOJ now there's a criminal referral. This was
on pan Bounty's desk from Tulci Gabbard and now according
to the Department of Justice, they've now come out with
an official statement saying they have opened an official investigation
and they're going to leave no stone unturned and they're
willing to take this all the way. Plus you have
(05:23):
Speaker Mike Johnson who now says Obama is going to
be deposed. They're going to subpoena him, he is going
to be put under oath, and he's going to be
asked directly about his involvement in Russia collusion. And he
says that Obama will have to come to Capitol Hill
and answer questions under oath, and that if he won't,
they're going to appoint a special prosecutor. So my ultimate
(05:47):
question to you is, as things stand right now, are
we going to see any arrests or do you think
they are going to bury this?
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Jeff Listen, I've been saying for days how much I
admire everything that you're doing and everything that honest journalists
are doing to get the truth out there, and what
Telsey's doing is absolutely fantastic. So what I can say
is I can plot the truth. But whether or not
we're going to ultimately get justice, I mean, to be
(06:18):
perfectly honest, I'm skeptical, but my saying that diminishes you know,
it's kind of contradictory to the goal we want to achieve.
Because you're asking me to talk about the future. We
don't know what the future will hold. I'm skeptical because
I know what Washington, DC does. I know we have
a huge hurdle, but I can just say we have
the truth and we have to keep fighting for that
(06:40):
truth to come out, and ultimately I would hope that
there's going to be some kind of a reckoning. But
what I've seen so far from the Department of Justice
doesn't give me much confidence in them. They've totally bungled
the Epstein case. I'm disgusted at what they've done. And
unfortunately the administration is tard because Trump's behavior wasn't very
(07:02):
good either during this last couple of weeks when it
comes to the Epstein case. So they've muddied the waters.
Had they done everything properly with the Epstein case, they
would have had even more authority, even more moral integrity
to go after what we want them to achieve in disregard. Look,
this is the key point. Justice has to be administered
(07:25):
consistently and impartially all the time, not just some of
the time. And so what was very upsetting about Trump
is that we saw in the last couple of weeks, Hey,
you're just like the rest of them. You just want
to advocate for justice. Some of the time, you're still
for a two tiered system of justice. And so the
whole thing has left me kind of sour. And I
(07:47):
don't know how much of it is. We're being played
now by the Trump administration itself to look the other way. Well,
when he was trying to bury the negative stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I understand, Grace. Let me look, you got two minutes left.
This news has just broke now literally as you and
I are speaking, Tulca Gabbard now has declassified the confidential
House Report twenty twenty where the Permanent Intelligence Subcommittee did
their own investigation. And they've got Obama. Now they've got Obama,
(08:19):
they've got Hillary, they've got John Brennan. This is now
literally being declassified as we speak. It is a bombshell.
It is an absolute bombshell. So, you know, I don't
know if this is an attempt at deflection. They're starting
to put the noose around the next of every single
one of them.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Well, we want to see justice administered equally all the time,
and we haven't seen that. But that's not a spur
against Telsea Gabbert. She's doing her job properly.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
No I understand that it's not nothing to do with that.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Bondy didn't I know. But Bondi did not do her
job properly with the Epstein case. Neither did Trump. So
why do we have confidence that all of a sudden
they're going to be able to do things properly. They're compromised.
They just compromise themselves. That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, I don't know. I disagree with you on this anyway.
We'll see. But to me, the evidence now that is
coming out, you can't. No one can blink from this,
No one but uh okay, Grace, I appreciate it as
always six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty
eight your reaction as well, doctor Grace, putting liberals in
(09:32):
their place. Grace will talk to you in the same place,
same time next week.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Jeff doesn't get a day off. This request came from
his wife. The Kooner Report weekend edition on the Boys
of Boston WRKO
Boston's Bulldozer never sleeps The Kooner Report weekend edition on
the Voice of Boston Wrko.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, joining me now as she always does at this time,
I am dying to get her take on this, Doctor
Grace putting liberals in their place, Grace Vuoto full disclosure,
my wonderful wife, and yes, the Cooner Man married up Grace.
Welcome back to the Kooner Report. As always, I want
(00:28):
to play one cut for you, and I want you
to just jump right off of that cut. This is
Trump at the Oval Office yesterday. He's asked by a
reporter Tulca Gabbert, Director of National Intelligence, has now officially
submitted a criminal referral to the Department of Justice regarding
the Russia collusion hoax and all the documents that she's declassified.
(00:52):
He's then asked, who do you think the DOJ should
target as part of now their investigation. To Trump's response,
it's a declaration of war against Obama and his criminal gang.
Roll cut two, Mike.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Sat has submitted a criminal referral to the Department of Justice.
From your perspective, who should the DOJ target as part
of their investigation? What specific figures in the Obama administration.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Well, based on what I read, and I read pretty
much what you read, it would be President Obama he
started it, and Biden was there with him, and Komi
was there, and Clapper, the whole group was there.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Brett, he goes Brennan and then he says, they were
all there in that room right there, right here, He
goes the room that I'm sitting in. They were all
right here in that infamous meeting where the decision was made.
We're going to manufacture intelligence. We're going to frame Trump.
We're going to try to claim he was an agent
(01:59):
of Russia, even though we know it's a lie and
we know it's false. In other words, we're implementing a
coup against the incoming president of the United States. Grace,
what's going to happen next?
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Well, Jeff, thank you so much for having me on. Look,
what Telsea is doing is absolutely amazing. She is a
real patriot, She is really tough. She is untangling this
spider web that they wove, So we have to give
her all the credit for this incredible job. Having said that, Jeff,
(02:39):
I am just concerned that Washington is going to bury
this as they always do, including Republicans who participate in
the burial of devastating information. They refer it to you know,
long committee hearings, big reports, and by the time they're
(02:59):
done with it, and by the time the lawyers take
a look at everything, they've parsed the situation into insignificance.
So my concern is, as much as you and I
and Kooner country know the truth, I don't know if
we're ever going to have that satisfaction that we're all
looking for to really get justice for what happened to
(03:19):
the president in that first election and to the whole country.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Grace the fact now that Trump is so publicly, vehemently, vigorously,
boldly weighed in on this. He went as far as
he could possibly say, indict him, indict all of them,
putting tremendous pressure now on PAMBONDI has that changed everything?
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Well, it's just that the way that he said it
was like an off the cuff comment at a press conference.
It certainly, you know, added a lot of fuel to
the fire. But I I think if we're going to
really take this to the next level, it does have
to come with some kind of certainty from the Department
(04:10):
of Justice that they're going to do something, and then
that's going to have to be matched with a really
formal address to the nation. I mean, you can't go
after an entire previous administration. We're not talking about just
going after one person. We're going after the heads of intelligence,
We're going after the head of FBI. This was a massive, massive,
(04:30):
massive effort to disrupt the will of the people. I
think it is going to take more than just an
off the cuff comment like he made. But he would
only be able to address the nation formally once he
knows for sure that the Department of Justice is going
to do something, and I'm not sure that they will
do anything, Jeff. That's my concern. My concern is I
know how the swamp operates. The law is exercised fitfully,
(04:56):
and the truth is usually buried in committee. That's the
summary of why Washington DC.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Well, the DOJ now there's a criminal referral. This was
on pan Bounty's desk from Tulci Gabbard and now according
to the Department of Justice, they've now come out with
an official statement saying they have opened an official investigation
and they're going to leave no stone unturned and they're
willing to take this all the way. Plus you have
(05:23):
Speaker Mike Johnson who now says Obama is going to
be deposed. They're going to subpoena him, he is going
to be put under oath, and he's going to be
asked directly about his involvement in Russia collusion. And he
says that Obama will have to come to Capitol Hill
and answer questions under oath, and that if he won't,
they're going to appoint a special prosecutor. So my ultimate
(05:47):
question to you is, as things stand right now, are
we going to see any arrests or do you think
they are going to bury this?
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Jeff Listen, I've been saying for days how much I
admire everything that you're doing and everything that honest journalists
are doing to get the truth out there, and what
Telsey's doing is absolutely fantastic. So what I can say
is I can plot the truth. But whether or not
we're going to ultimately get justice, I mean, to be
(06:18):
perfectly honest, I'm skeptical, but my saying that diminishes you know,
it's kind of contradictory to the goal we want to achieve.
Because you're asking me to talk about the future. We
don't know what the future will hold. I'm skeptical because
I know what Washington, DC does. I know we have
a huge hurdle, but I can just say we have
the truth and we have to keep fighting for that
(06:40):
truth to come out, and ultimately I would hope that
there's going to be some kind of a reckoning. But
what I've seen so far from the Department of Justice
doesn't give me much confidence in them. They've totally bungled
the Epstein case. I'm disgusted at what they've done. And
unfortunately the administration is tard because Trump's behavior wasn't very
(07:02):
good either during this last couple of weeks when it
comes to the Epstein case. So they've muddied the waters.
Had they done everything properly with the Epstein case, they
would have had even more authority, even more moral integrity
to go after what we want them to achieve in disregard. Look,
this is the key point. Justice has to be administered
(07:25):
consistently and impartially all the time, not just some of
the time. And so what was very upsetting about Trump
is that we saw in the last couple of weeks, Hey,
you're just like the rest of them. You just want
to advocate for justice. Some of the time, you're still
for a two tiered system of justice. And so the
whole thing has left me kind of sour. And I
(07:47):
don't know how much of it is. We're being played
now by the Trump administration itself to look the other way. Well,
when he was trying to bury the negative stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I understand, Grace. Let me look, you got two minutes left.
This news has just broke now literally as you and
I are speaking, Tulca Gabbard now has declassified the confidential
House Report twenty twenty where the Permanent Intelligence Subcommittee did
their own investigation. And they've got Obama. Now they've got Obama,
(08:19):
they've got Hillary, they've got John Brennan. This is now
literally being declassified as we speak. It is a bombshell.
It is an absolute bombshell. So, you know, I don't
know if this is an attempt at deflection. They're starting
to put the noose around the next of every single
one of them.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Well, we want to see justice administered equally all the time,
and we haven't seen that. But that's not a spur
against Telsea Gabbert. She's doing her job properly.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
No I understand that it's not nothing to do with that.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Bondy didn't I know. But Bondi did not do her
job properly with the Epstein case. Neither did Trump. So
why do we have confidence that all of a sudden
they're going to be able to do things properly. They're compromised.
They just compromise themselves. That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, I don't know. I disagree with you on this anyway.
We'll see. But to me, the evidence now that is
coming out, you can't. No one can blink from this,
No one but uh okay, Grace, I appreciate it as
always six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty
eight your reaction as well, doctor Grace, putting liberals in
(09:32):
their place. Grace will talk to you in the same place,
same time next week.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Jeff doesn't get a day off. This request came from
his wife. The Kooner Report weekend edition on the Boys
of Boston WRKO
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