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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Boston's Bulldozer never sleeps The Kooner Report weekend edition on
the Voice of Boston wrko.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, joining me now, doctor Grace, putting liberals in their place,
Grace Vuoto, my better half, my wonderful wife, Grace. You
heard what Trump said yesterday at the cabinet meeting. He
called the lon Omar garbage. He said, most of the
people in the Somali community, especially Minneapolis, all of those
(00:28):
on welfare and others, their garbage. Is Trump right? Is
Trump wrong? And should he have used the term garbage
because that's what everybody is seizing on? What say you?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Well, good morning, Jeff. Look, I generally support the president's policies.
I know what he's trying to do, but I would
prefer that he used much more selective language when he
speaks so that we avoid these you know what I
call this, This is like racial quicksand we get into
these know, just everybody gets upset, everybody's riled up, everybody's insulted,
(01:04):
and we don't get anywhere. I prefer that the president
talk very clearly about what it is that he wants,
as the Homeland Securities Secretary did right next to him,
and she said, Listen, we do not want crime imported
into this country. We don't want people out of mental institutions.
If there's a country that is sending a predominance of this,
(01:28):
you know, these types of people into our country, well,
we're going to put a ban in So I would
just say that the president needs to talk much more specifically.
So when we're talking about the Somali community in Minnesota,
I mean, this is a community that defrauded the state
of a billion dollars, and he has every right to
be upset about that, and he has every right to
(01:48):
be upset about representatives like Omar who are everything that
he says. But I would just say avoid the large
insults because they're ultimately not helpful. I think it's helpful
to talk about behaviors, actions and we can move the
country forward. Otherwise it's just spreading, you know, like all
(02:10):
this antagonism that gets in the way of the goal
that we're trying to achieve, which is to make the
country better. And there's lots of people on both sides
of the aisle that would agree on some of this.
I mean, we don't want this kind of fraud, We
don't want this kind of fraud in our country. Lots
of independence would agree on that, But when you use
these incendiary words, it just gets everybody robbed up, and
(02:32):
I don't think it's that productive. So I would just
say I agree with his policies, I agree with the vision,
but I would hope that once in a while he
would just be a little bit more selective in the
language that he's using to express himself.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
What do you say to his central argument and now
his policy, because he's banning immigration at least temporarily from
nineteen countries, Somalia being one of them, and he's vowing
now to deport many of these Somalis from Minneapolis. Apparently
half of them are on fraudulent visas. So but what
do you say to his argument that there are just
(03:06):
certain groups from certain countries, immigrant groups that are a
net minus, that's all, and the Somalis for whatever reason,
I don't know why. Whether it's Denmark, whether it's Sweden,
whether it's France, whether it's England. Everywhere they go, whether
it's Maine, whether it's min Minnesota, the crime rates are
(03:28):
much higher, welfare dependency much higher. They're not assimilating. Many
of them have been there several generations. They're not assimilating,
and that's so you just don't bring them in because
ultimately they don't add value to your country. I'm not
talking about an individual here or there, but overall as
an overall group. Is Trump right or is Trump wrong?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Well, look he does have a very good point. Look,
there's even an expert that's quoted. His name is Ahmad Samaitary.
He's an expert on some Mali culture, and he says, listen,
there's something about many of these Somali refugees. They were
raised in a culture where stealing from the government was
really common. So the fact that you know they participated
in this scheme in Minnesota, it doesn't surprise him because
(04:15):
that's the culture that they came from. But the problem
we face as a country, Jeff, it's not this or
that group. We just do not assimilate immigrants very effectively
at all anymore, any immigrant. And the problem, as I
said a couple of weeks ago, is our policy of multiculturalism,
a lack of knowledge of our own history, a lack
(04:36):
of pride in our own history. And this comes from
the Democrats mostly and the education system that they've put forward.
So we have a huge problem to deal with when
it comes to assimilating all immigrants. And I just think
that the problem is so massive right now. He and
the Homeland Secretary and the whole team, they've got so
(04:56):
much on their plate and they're doing such a great job. Well,
just establish a clear policy overall. What is the immigration
standard that we want, What is it that we don't want?
Have one clear policy and talk about it in terms
of policy language as much as possible that tries to
achieve a national consensus. What do we want as a
(05:18):
nation when we say this person can come in and
this person can come in. We need to establish those standards,
and we do need to have a process where we
can verify that they are being assimilated, because think about it,
You and I come from cultures where come on, we
were telling our parents often, hey mo, hey dad, you
can't do that here. You know, it takes a while
(05:39):
to assimilate people. But this was an environment when they
came in where there was much more cultural pressure to
assimilate to a national standard. We don't have that. That's
a big, big, big problem that comes from liberal ideology.
So I think that the government needs to set a
clear immigration policy and a clear assimilation procedure and just
(06:03):
talk about it in those terms.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
We've got about a minute left, so I need you
to be very you know, very much to the point
on this. Is it time for at least a foreseeable future,
three years, five years, whatever it is. We've got so
many illegals and so much legal immigration now that the
country really is being there's so many foreign born Americans,
(06:26):
legal or illegal. Is it time to put a moratorium
on immigration until we can sort everything out because we're
just we're being overwhelmed. Go quick a minute.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yes, we need an absolute moratorium on all immigration. And
that's why the government needs to be very clear. You know,
there's this uproar about okay, so you want the Chinese
students to come in, you do want h one B visas.
I mean, what's the policy. The policies are ever changing,
So I would say we do need a very strict
moratorium applicable to all until we sort everything out in
(06:58):
this country, get the eagles out, and get the laws
in place that appear to be fair and reasonable for all.
That's all. It's not that.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Complicated, doctor Grace. Putting liberals in their place, Grace Votto
and Yes, I definitely married up. Grace. Dynamite stuff. We'll
talk next week, same time, same place, and thanks again
for coming on the Kuoner Report. Okay, you heard Grace.
(07:28):
She agrees with Trump's policies, but doesn't like the fact
that he used the word garbage, and she says that's
one of his problems. He just doesn't use precise language.
He needs to be more precise, more diplomatic. Do you agree.
Jeff doesn't get a day off.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
This request came from his wife. The Kuoner Report weekend
edition on the Boys of Boston WRKO
Boston's Bulldozer never sleeps The Kooner Report weekend edition on
the Voice of Boston wrko.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, joining me now, doctor Grace, putting liberals in their place,
Grace Vuoto, my better half, my wonderful wife, Grace. You
heard what Trump said yesterday at the cabinet meeting. He
called the lon Omar garbage. He said, most of the
people in the Somali community, especially Minneapolis, all of those
(00:28):
on welfare and others, their garbage. Is Trump right? Is
Trump wrong? And should he have used the term garbage
because that's what everybody is seizing on? What say you?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Well, good morning, Jeff. Look, I generally support the president's policies.
I know what he's trying to do, but I would
prefer that he used much more selective language when he
speaks so that we avoid these you know what I
call this, This is like racial quicksand we get into
these know, just everybody gets upset, everybody's riled up, everybody's insulted,
(01:04):
and we don't get anywhere. I prefer that the president
talk very clearly about what it is that he wants,
as the Homeland Securities Secretary did right next to him,
and she said, Listen, we do not want crime imported
into this country. We don't want people out of mental institutions.
If there's a country that is sending a predominance of this,
(01:28):
you know, these types of people into our country, well,
we're going to put a ban in So I would
just say that the president needs to talk much more specifically.
So when we're talking about the Somali community in Minnesota,
I mean, this is a community that defrauded the state
of a billion dollars, and he has every right to
be upset about that, and he has every right to
(01:48):
be upset about representatives like Omar who are everything that
he says. But I would just say avoid the large
insults because they're ultimately not helpful. I think it's helpful
to talk about behaviors, actions and we can move the
country forward. Otherwise it's just spreading, you know, like all
(02:10):
this antagonism that gets in the way of the goal
that we're trying to achieve, which is to make the
country better. And there's lots of people on both sides
of the aisle that would agree on some of this.
I mean, we don't want this kind of fraud, We
don't want this kind of fraud in our country. Lots
of independence would agree on that, But when you use
these incendiary words, it just gets everybody robbed up, and
(02:32):
I don't think it's that productive. So I would just
say I agree with his policies, I agree with the vision,
but I would hope that once in a while he
would just be a little bit more selective in the
language that he's using to express himself.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
What do you say to his central argument and now
his policy, because he's banning immigration at least temporarily from
nineteen countries, Somalia being one of them, and he's vowing
now to deport many of these Somalis from Minneapolis. Apparently
half of them are on fraudulent visas. So but what
do you say to his argument that there are just
(03:06):
certain groups from certain countries, immigrant groups that are a
net minus, that's all, and the Somalis for whatever reason,
I don't know why. Whether it's Denmark, whether it's Sweden,
whether it's France, whether it's England. Everywhere they go, whether
it's Maine, whether it's min Minnesota, the crime rates are
(03:28):
much higher, welfare dependency much higher. They're not assimilating. Many
of them have been there several generations. They're not assimilating,
and that's so you just don't bring them in because
ultimately they don't add value to your country. I'm not
talking about an individual here or there, but overall as
an overall group. Is Trump right or is Trump wrong?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Well, look he does have a very good point. Look,
there's even an expert that's quoted. His name is Ahmad Samaitary.
He's an expert on some Mali culture, and he says, listen,
there's something about many of these Somali refugees. They were
raised in a culture where stealing from the government was
really common. So the fact that you know they participated
in this scheme in Minnesota, it doesn't surprise him because
(04:15):
that's the culture that they came from. But the problem
we face as a country, Jeff, it's not this or
that group. We just do not assimilate immigrants very effectively
at all anymore, any immigrant. And the problem, as I
said a couple of weeks ago, is our policy of multiculturalism,
a lack of knowledge of our own history, a lack
(04:36):
of pride in our own history. And this comes from
the Democrats mostly and the education system that they've put forward.
So we have a huge problem to deal with when
it comes to assimilating all immigrants. And I just think
that the problem is so massive right now. He and
the Homeland Secretary and the whole team, they've got so
(04:56):
much on their plate and they're doing such a great job. Well,
just establish a clear policy overall. What is the immigration
standard that we want, What is it that we don't want?
Have one clear policy and talk about it in terms
of policy language as much as possible that tries to
achieve a national consensus. What do we want as a
(05:18):
nation when we say this person can come in and
this person can come in. We need to establish those standards,
and we do need to have a process where we
can verify that they are being assimilated, because think about it,
You and I come from cultures where come on, we
were telling our parents often, hey mo, hey dad, you
can't do that here. You know, it takes a while
(05:39):
to assimilate people. But this was an environment when they
came in where there was much more cultural pressure to
assimilate to a national standard. We don't have that. That's
a big, big, big problem that comes from liberal ideology.
So I think that the government needs to set a
clear immigration policy and a clear assimilation procedure and just
(06:03):
talk about it in those terms.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
We've got about a minute left, so I need you
to be very you know, very much to the point
on this. Is it time for at least a foreseeable future,
three years, five years, whatever it is. We've got so
many illegals and so much legal immigration now that the
country really is being there's so many foreign born Americans,
(06:26):
legal or illegal. Is it time to put a moratorium
on immigration until we can sort everything out because we're
just we're being overwhelmed. Go quick a minute.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yes, we need an absolute moratorium on all immigration. And
that's why the government needs to be very clear. You know,
there's this uproar about okay, so you want the Chinese
students to come in, you do want h one B visas.
I mean, what's the policy. The policies are ever changing,
So I would say we do need a very strict
moratorium applicable to all until we sort everything out in
(06:58):
this country, get the eagles out, and get the laws
in place that appear to be fair and reasonable for all.
That's all. It's not that.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Complicated, doctor Grace. Putting liberals in their place, Grace Votto
and Yes, I definitely married up. Grace. Dynamite stuff. We'll
talk next week, same time, same place, and thanks again
for coming on the Kuoner Report. Okay, you heard Grace.
(07:28):
She agrees with Trump's policies, but doesn't like the fact
that he used the word garbage, and she says that's
one of his problems. He just doesn't use precise language.
He needs to be more precise, more diplomatic. Do you agree.
Jeff doesn't get a day off.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
This request came from his wife. The Kuoner Report weekend
edition on the Boys of Boston WRKO
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