Is Parenting a Lost Art?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number. Okay. Mike is feeling very uncomfortable right now.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
He's in the control center and he's like, well, but
I've never called you mister Kooner. From the day I
met you, I called you Jeff. I'm like, yeah, but Mike,
you're an adult. It's different. Mike. By the way, I
keep forgetting your age. Are you twenty five or twenty six?

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Now?

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Mike? Are you serious? You're really twenty seven? Mike? Boy,
Mike you are. You're getting up there. My friend you've
been he's been with me for three years. Boy, you're
really uh boy, you're getting old, Mike. No, I mean, Mike,

(00:46):
it's if you were like fifteen or sixteen and say
you are interning and you walk in and you know
you want the internship, and you shake and I shake,
and I extend my hand and I go nice to
meet you, and you say, hey, Jeff, Hey, hey Cooner.
You know I'd be like, nah, this is not making

(01:07):
a good impression, you know. So that's the difference. Mike.
I mean, twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven years old
is one thing. And I'm also I'm a very informal guy,
but you know, for fourteen fifteen sixteen, no, Mike, you
call people mister, but that's me. Angelo in Rockland. Thanks

(01:27):
for holding Angelo, and welcome Angelo. I think we lost Angelo. Okay,
who do you want to go to next? Mike John
in Plymouth. Thanks for holding John, and welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Good morning, Jeff John. I hope you are sitting down.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Okay, Okay, I'm going to lay on you. You might
already know this, but I know you've got listeners all
over the country, all over the world. So this particularly
is gonna hit California right now. The state of California

(02:11):
legislature has.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
A bill going through AB four. This is a direct
attack on parental rights. And let me lay it out
for you. Let's say a guy, let's say any Joe
Schmoe off the street. Bob will say, all he's got

(02:36):
to do is to win fill out a form. He
can either have email to him, nail mail to him,
or he can go pick it up. Fill this form out.
They don't do no background check, no ID check. He
can fill this form out, and he can even be

(02:58):
specific about the child that he wants to pick up.
He can take that form, go into a school and
say I'm here to take custody of this child, and
the school will not ask for ID and they will

(03:19):
not call the parents, and he can remove that child.
Opponents to the bill are calling it the California Legislative
Legislature Trafficking Bill. On August nineteenth, they're going to have
a big protest on the steps of the Capitol and Sacramento.

(03:44):
I advise everybody, anybody that's even in California listening, you've
got to show up. Somebody pulled strings up at the Capitol.
They were only expecting to get half a day the afternoon.
Somebody pulled strings and got the whole day. They got
the steps of the Capitol all day for protesting. If

(04:08):
this happens, if this bill passes, parents will have no say.
They can just walk in and grab your kid and
nobody can do anything about it.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
John, let me be brutally on first of all, you
have You've shocked me. You've rung my bell. As they say,
I'm in disbelief, an utter disbelief. Half of my brain
is saying there has to be something wrong with this.
There has to be something that John is leaving out

(04:48):
that this cannot possibly be true. And then there's the
other half of my brain, and that's the one that's
going on that's going on fire right now, that's the
one that's going crazy, saying this is California. This is California.
This is crazy California. They if anybody would do a
bill like this, it would either be them or Massachusetts.

(05:11):
And so I'm like, this could be very true, John,
Where can I want to get more information on this, John,
what is it in reaction to? In other words, why
are they pushing this bill? As you're telling As you
were explaining it, I'm thinking like, well, is it because

(05:32):
disgruntled fathers who let's say, are getting divorced or split
with their wives, with their spouses say they don't have
any access to their children? Is that what it is?
Is it something regarding parental custody and maybe discrimination against
the fathers or the males. But what you're telling me

(05:53):
is this has nothing to do with the parents. This
has to do with an utter stranger who wants to
claim they have the right to take your child from school.
Must be allowed to take your child from school? John,
this is in reaction to what what are they responding to?
By trying to push this bill.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
This is just four or five reprobates in the state legislature.
They came up with this all on their own. This
isn't in response to anything. And I got this information
from Pastor Jack Hibbs, who is the pastor of Calvary Chapel,
Chino Hills, and he advised his whole congregation. He said, listen,

(06:36):
I'm getting people together. I want a minimum of five
thousand people at the steps.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
That's not well, John. I am going to look into this.
You have my word, and if this is true, I
think exactly the way you laid it out. You know what,
I've never done a rally in California. I know, I know,
I say it all the time, but it's true. I
don't know what else to tell you. Eight thirty three

(07:03):
on the Great WRKO Jeff Cooner Boston's Bulldozer. This is
a great text from seven oh three. Listen to this, Jeff.
And by the way, you can text the Cooner man
seven zero four seven zero seven zero four seven zero Jeff.
The turning point and visible disrespect for the cops started

(07:26):
a few years ago, the summer before the twenty twenty
George Floyd riot when the inner city youths threw water.
Do you remember this through water on the NYPD cops
in the summertime and the cops did nothing. I remember

(07:46):
that it was all over New York. You had these hoodlums,
thugs going around literally dumping buckets of water on police officers,
just randomly on the streets, and the cops did nothing.
This was under the Blasio Big Bird builde Blasio, that
was the green light. And then Antifa turned it into

(08:09):
frozen water bottles, bricks, urine crap, molotov cocktails, and commercial
July fourth fireworks which were being pelted at police officers.
And how many of those initial water throwers put a
black hood and turned into Antifa. It was disgusting. But

(08:31):
the original spark was the infamous quote unquote beer summit
with the dear lad Barack Obama and that Cambridge police
officer who was just doing his job. He never should
have gone. He was used bingo. Going back now looking

(08:54):
you know, hindsight being twenty twenty, that beer summit, remember
what Mama said, You know, the Cambridge police sucked it
stupidly when they were just doing their job. That's it,
that they were just doing their job, and he openly publicly,
repeatedly denigrated, attacked, and demonized and vilified the police, and

(09:21):
then had that pathetic beer summit, which to me made
the whole thing even worse. And you could, from that
point on the public respect and authority that the police
had started to go downhill, and frankly it's never recovered. Agreed, disagree,
Billy in Stoneham. Thanks for holding Billy, and welcome.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
Sooner. So I have to agree with you. I never
call any of my friend's parents five titles, but I
gotta say, I boym it on the parents. I think
they've drifted us away from it. I've never been like
told to call the mister. I'll just say, like, hey's Steve, you.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Know, Billy, if you don't mind me asking how old
are you?

Speaker 4 (10:10):
Seventeen?

Speaker 1 (10:11):
You're seventeen now, I mean, what about your mom and dad?
You call him mom and dad or are they like
you know Joe and Jane.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
No, I call him mom and dad.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
But you're saying your your parents's friends, adults. You just
you know, it's Steve, it's Tammy. It's it's always on
a first name basis.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yeah, but teachers, I do do, like missus Smith, I
wouldn't call them by their first name?

Speaker 1 (10:40):
And what and what about Billy? What about the principal?

Speaker 4 (10:45):
I call him mister.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Interesting? Now is it now? Who taught you to call,
you know, adults by their first name. I'm just curious, Billy,
did your parents teach you that? Or was it just
something you picked up?

Speaker 4 (11:01):
It was never really taught, It was just I kind
of adapted that as I grew up, I guess.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
And did the adults ever say anything to you? They
ever say, Hey, Billy, please do me a favor. Call
me mister Smith, or at a minimum, call me mister Steve.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
No. I mean, I completely agree with you. I think
it would be better. It's more of a respect thing.
But no one's ever really commented against it. And I
feel like since everyone else calls them by the first name,
I'd be very different to call them mister Steve or.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
I agree? No, Billy, I agree, Billy. Again, if I'm
getting too personal, please tell me, Billy, have you ever
had any run ins with the law?

Speaker 2 (11:50):
No?

Speaker 1 (11:50):
I haven't, Okay, I'm just asking this for the related
to the topic of today. God forbid if you did,
and you sound like a really nice kid. By the
way I'm just being and I'm saying, kid in an
affectionate way. You know, you're a year away from being
an adult, so obviously you're a young adult or on
your way to becoming a young adult. But Billy, if you,
you know whatever, engaged in vandalism, you were you know,

(12:15):
I don't know, got drunk publicly, you you know whatever,
you know, got into a fight and assaulted somebody whatever
it is, and so you ended up going to juvenile court,
you were found guilty. Should your parents be held responsible

(12:36):
for the crime that you committed? Do you think that's right?
Either they go ninety days in jail or pay a fine.
Should they be liable if you broke the law? What's
your I'm just curious, what's your opinion on this? Billy?

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Oh, I think at a certain age no, But then again,
like they've taught you and raised you so to an extent,
I mean, I think it would be their fault.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
And so you're saying, now, Billy, do you have other
Do you have friends that have gone to jail or
broken the law?

Speaker 4 (13:12):
I mean, like gotten in trouble by the cops, maybe,
but never like gone to jail.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Now, if they do something bad whatever graffiti or whatever.
They you know, they're smoking marijuana or they're publicly intoxicated,
as they say, drunk in public. Do you think it's
their parents' fault or do you think it's their fault?

Speaker 4 (13:38):
I think it's pretty fifty fifty. I mean parents need
to teach them better. I guess if they're having run
into the law, what.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
If they teach them right from wrong and do the
best they can. But you know, some some people, Billy,
are just they say, a bad seed. They just you know,
make bad decisions and they know it's wrong, but they
do it anyway.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
Kids make mistakes, and your.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Position is, ultimately the parents shouldn't go to jail for
mistakes made by the children.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Correct, correct, But there should be the parents should definitely.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Be Now, Billy, can you do me a big favor
because you clearly have a bright future ahead of you.
You've got a good head on your shoulders, you seem
to be a person of really good character. Can you
just start calling your parents's adult friends mister or missus
or mss just on your own? Can you just start

(14:46):
doing that? Because you really are a very polite young man,
so there's no reason for you to be impolite or
disrespectful in some aspects of your life when you're so
polite in other aspects. So I'm just saying for you,
it's gonna make it. Trust trust me, it's gonna make
you look even better. You think maybe you can commit
to that, Billy.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
I'll commit to that, mister Coon.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah, no, no me. You can call Jeff. But you're
a funny guy. Billy, please don't be a stranger. Call again,
and God bless you. Billy six six, what's up? No,
I'm the one guy you don't call, mister Cooner. I'm
not important enough, Billy. Lisa in Malden, Thanks for holding.

(15:33):
But by the way, Mike, did you hear that? You
see how are you do? You say you're first to me? Mike?
You see that, mister Kuoner. I'm just saying, Mike, Lisa
in Malden, thanks for holding, Lisa, and welcome.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
Good morning, Jeff. I am calling because I am a
preschool teacher and I am over forty five, so I'm
seeing a lot of things with these little kids. Just
with the little kids, they don't know how to build
with blocks. I make them call me miss, miss Lisa.

(16:10):
I've seen younger people come in for job interviews just
in jeans, and I'm just like, what the heck is
going on here?

Speaker 1 (16:22):
You have candidates who want to teach come in for
a job interview in jeans and they call you Lisa.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
I'm not the boss, but I've seen them come in.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
In jeans like Lisa, can you please do me a favor?
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(17:22):
Lisa in Malden. Lisa, you mentioned your age, so you're
about a forty five year old school teacher. You deal
with a lot of young kids, and you're saying you
have seen the change in attitude, the growing utter contempt
and disrespect for authority for teachers, for adults. You've seen

(17:43):
the change over years, over the last what is it
twenty some years, and you talked about how even when
they come in for a job here, they're in for
a job interview. Younger applicants, you know, they want to
become a teacher, will come in in genees and we'll
address all of the other teachers adults by their first name. Lisa,

(18:07):
please pick up where you left off.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
Oh yeah, so I kind of got ahead of myself
because this subject obviously touches me personally, because I'm just
like all over the place with it. The younger generation,
they come here for job interviews. I've seen them come
in in jeans. I've seen them come in in like

(18:32):
those stretch pants. I even questioned the boss principal at
one point, like, oh, you know, what's that person here
for a job interview? And they're like yeah, and I'm like, hello,
what are they wearing? And that person didn't even last
They hired the person. They put her in my classroom
as my assistant, and she wasn't even there three months before.

(18:53):
She just quit and she quit the ten minutes after
she was supposed to be in for her chef. They
don't care, they don't care how anybody else feels around them.
They're very ungrateful. I mean, I can't begin to tell
you how many times I've covered, you know, classes for
younger teachers and just not even a thank you.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
And so hold on, so even when you cover for them,
they don't even say thank.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
You, even a thank you.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Lisa, do you would you describe them, because this is
how they're described to me, and this is how many
of them appear to me as well, that they're very
self centered and extremely narcisstic, very self absorbed.

Speaker 5 (19:42):
Yes, ungrateful.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Interesting.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
Interesting, it's like it's like somebody owes them something. The
attitude is it's and it does start at home. I
have to say, because I work with young kids, younger kids.
I'm talking three, four or five year olds, and I

(20:06):
have agencies. If I have a child with behavior problems,
I have agencies coming in here and telling me how
to nicer words. Use the word no, we use the
word feeling, be you feeling this way? Just it's like, really,

(20:30):
my my parents told me go over it, go outside
and play, you know, figure it out.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
So they're telling you when you're dealing with these three,
four or five year old kids, don't use words like no,
it's you have to It's all about their feelings and
cater to their feelings and address their feelings and talk
about their feelings. Correct.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
Absolutely. And I also have an example of one time
the principal came in my room and was like, oh,
I have a whole bunch of stickers, Lisa, if you
want them, to give them to the kids. So I
was like, oh, I'd love to reward my kids, but
I'm not going to give stickers to kids who don't
earn them. And she never gave me the stickers.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Unbelievable, unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (21:19):
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to reward behavior bad behavior.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Oh you're right, No, you're completely Please don't be apologetic.
You're completely correct. Mike here, you're the normal one. Please
don't apologize. Lisa, I've got to ask you when you
talk about the younger kids, do they address you as
I don't know, you know, miss Lisa, or I'm just
going to give you a fake lass name, you know,
miss Johnson. Do they or do they call you Lisa?

(21:47):
Have you noticed that as well that younger students or
your teenagers even I don't know if you deal with them,
but they no one's a mister or a missus anymore
or a miss It's all everybody's on a first name basis.
Have you noticed that as well?

Speaker 5 (22:03):
I was well older kids and h every year I missed.
They never said, you know, miss Johnson. Yah, this was
always just missed. They never used the name. And that
was back in the that was back in the early
two thousands now, and I was working in an office

(22:25):
then in the vice principal's office. But now, you know,
being a teacher at this age, they don't call us,
you know, by our last name. But I call them.
I tell them they have to call me miss Lisa
if they call me Lisa or I said that's not
my name, and they get it. My kids know the
boundaries in my classroom, but I can only control it

(22:47):
in my classroom. If if I have a kid that
I need to send out of the classroom to the
principal's office, they don't need even back us up. They
just like give the kid something to color in the
office so that they can calm down and relax, and
then they send them back there's no consequences, you.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Know, Lisa, I'm so happy you called because that they
eventually become teenagers, right what you're talking about now, and
now they don't know what to do with them because
they're running wild, because they have no respect for authority,
and there are no consequences to anything they do. And
that's here. It is this phone call. You want to
know what the problem is here, It is in a nutshell, Lisa.

(23:31):
Thank you very much for that call, and please you
continue to hold the line in the classroom six one
seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Look, I've
got people texting me. I mean, my text line is
going to burn up seriously, you know, Jeff, you know
these are fourteen fifteen year old kids, Jeff, okay, high school,
middle school, high school, Jeff. They called the principal Dan,

(23:55):
you know whatever, Daniel again. I'll make up a name,
you know, Danielle Torrez and he's just no, he's Dan.
And on the hallway, Hey Dan, Dan, Danny, they go Jeff.
They call principles now by their first name. Okay. You know,

(24:16):
I don't know what to tell you. Dave in Vermont,
thanks for holding Dave, and welcome Moonjieur Jeff Bojore, How
are you Dave, my French Canadian friend good.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
Moaning me good?

Speaker 6 (24:32):
I got a little funny one for you.

Speaker 7 (24:34):
I grew up in a different time. I grew up
in the fifties and early sixties, and one time I
found myself a file of the law and I ended
up in the local jail cell.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
And my dad was friends with the chief of police.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
So when he was.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
Contacted the chief, my dad asked the chief if he
would do him a favor and he said what was that?
He said, well, you keep my son there overnight and
I'll be there in the morning to pick him up
and to settle out the score. Well, I'll tell you what,
I had an evening of sitting on a cold, hard
bench thinking about what my father was going to do

(25:11):
when he showed up at the police station. And that
will put the fear of God in a person. But yeah,
I kind of think that today that the way children
are and everything.

Speaker 8 (25:22):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (25:23):
Back then, doctor Spock was a laughing joke, you.

Speaker 6 (25:26):
Know, but the younger people started to take a hold
of that, Oh can't touch my kid or anything. When
we grew up, we got the rubber holes or we
got the paint stick, the pointer to stick across our knuckles,
or the teacher grabbing us behind the ear and lifting
us out of our chair. But we didn't misbehave a lot.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
All you're dead on I mean day. Look, I think
it was a little more lenient by the time I was.
You know, I went to school in the seventies and
eighties obviously, so it was up toad ahead of your time.
But I still remember my you know, this was grade two,
grade three, grade four. My teachers would pull me by
the ear, pull other students by the ear, boys or girls.

(26:08):
I would get wrapped on the knuckles with a wide ruler.
Nobody died. And I'll tell you this. People learned classrooms.
Everybody learned. It was quiet, it was well behaved. Everybody
respected the teacher. Anybody stepped out of line, bang smack
on the a rap on the knuckles or a pull

(26:29):
on the ear or whatever. And the parents supported the teachers.
I'll never forget this. Every time we had parent teacher conference,
every time you had the parents come in and say,
and if my Jeffrey misbehaves or whatever, they say, you
pull them by the ear, you wrap them by the knuckles.
You tell me, because I'll take care of him. And

(26:54):
you know, the classrooms. I mean, yeah, you had some
disturbances here and there, and the teacher would take care
of it. But for the most part, there was no violence.
There was no drugs, there was no alcohol, there was
no swearing, there was no there wasn't pandemonium. People learned.
It was a well ordered, well run classroom. It was school,

(27:18):
and the halls were safe, the schoolyards were safe. Everybody
respected the principle. Everybody respected the teacher. And you know, Dave,
nobody died right when they pulled you by the ear
or wrapped you on the knuckles. You didn't die. I
didn't die. It wasn't like, oh my god, we're abused
oor self esteem. Oh you turned out okay. I turned out.

(27:44):
Everybody I knew turned out okay. And then the liberals
got involved, and now it's it's really it's like a zoo.
It's not a school. It's a zoo. Dave, thank you
very much for that call. Agreed, disagree. Six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay.

(28:06):
She's back from vacation. She's been away for a couple
of weeks. You've all noticed it. But she's back, doctor Grace,
putting liberals in their place. Grace Vuoto. She's well rested,
recharged and ready to go.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Grace. How are you?

Speaker 8 (28:29):
I am still floating on a cloud. I am back
from Portugal and I was there with Ava and Jeff.
You know, I also went to the holy site of Fatima,
which was one of the most important journeys of my life.
And as I approached the apparition site, I was moved
to tears. And we talk about how people behave. Let

(28:52):
me tell you about the Portuguese people, the kindest, sweetest
people in Europe. There's no question, no question about it.
They happen to be among the poorest, but they're the
kindest and sweetest. And I had a fantastic encounter one night,
and I'll bring it back to the topic of today
with a couple of waiters. We were all there with friends,

(29:15):
and I was with Ava and her friend and my
friend and I said, you know, the people in this
country are unusually kind and sweet and thoughtful. And I asked,
is their intense spirituality here? And the waiter said, well,
my parents are very devout and most of the generation
that you know precedes this one is very, very devout.

(29:37):
And I said, okay, what about you, two young men,
are you as devout? They said, no, no, but we
have all the ethics of the Christian faith, but not
necessarily go to church. And I said to them, right there,
that's we're having this wonderful dinner. I was getting into
like a theological debate. But don't you see that if
you do not practice the faith like your parents do,

(29:58):
after a couple of generations, you're going to lose the
ethics too. Don't you see that faith is the discipline
of ethics. Without the faith, after a few generations, what
special in this country will disappear. You will all just
become another secular nation. And you know, Jeff, as you're speaking,
I thought, it's so important that we as the devout Christians.

(30:20):
I think there's no question about it. The problem is
we are now longer being missionaries. You know, I know
you and I are devout Christians. But going back to Fatima,
I feel called once again to not just be a
practitioner of the faith, but we have to be missionaries
of the faith, as those three shepherd children or those
little kids who saw the Virgin ended up spreading the

(30:44):
word to the whole world. And I think we just
can't sit in the sidelines. The children nowadays are not socialized.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
They're just not.

Speaker 8 (30:53):
And the root of it is that there is not
enough intensity of the faith, because all good things come
from that practice. And I can go on and on
with examples. Some of them are quite funny.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
You know.

Speaker 8 (31:04):
The children that come, the friends of our kids. They
don't call me Grace or missus. They call me mom
of Ava, mam of Ava. Come here, Mama Ava.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
You know that is funny, that is very funny. Well,
you know they call me Jeff Bezos.

Speaker 8 (31:22):
Yeah, they tease you.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, they teach me. They don't just call me Jeff
because I'm baldang. They make fun of me and they go,
you're like Jeff Bezos. Soon you're gonna have no hair,
And they find it funny.

Speaker 8 (31:32):
Yeah, they call you Jeff Bezos.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
I know.

Speaker 8 (31:35):
And how many times have you and I after a
long day where we have catered hand and foot to
one friend, let's say we even then drop them off
back home. We turn and look at each other. The
kid didn't even say thank you. How many times have
we had that feeling together? We're looking at each other
like a ghast no.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
And then that's after they spend the whole day with
Ava in the pool. It's a steak dinner, ice scream.
I mean, they get apps. I mean, it's the five
star treatment. And we still drive them back home to
make it even easier for their parents, and as they
leave the car, there's not even a thank you. It's incredible.

Speaker 8 (32:14):
It's incredible, and I've got to the point where i
start reprimanding the kids of other parents. I'm like, excuse me,
what do you say? And you know, I'm just horn fine,
what do you say? I just cater to you all day?

Speaker 7 (32:27):
What do you say?

Speaker 4 (32:28):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (32:29):
Yeah, yeah, thank you. But I feel that it's thank
you not because it's a sincere thank you. It's thank
you because, hey, I want these people to serve me
again next time the same way.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Grace. Let me ask you, really, which is the theme
of the show? Really? The question of the show. You
have these laws now that are being put on the
books in town after town, increasingly now stayed after state,
predominantly blue states, but I think you're going to start
to see them in some red states. New Jersey now
is in the middle of this because the New York

(33:00):
Post did a big article on it. Where you have
Gloucester Township, it's right near Philadelphia on the border between
New Jersey and Pennsylvania. That town now has passed a
new law that if your teenage son or daughter is arrested,
say multiple times, for whatever it may be, dealing drugs, vandalism,

(33:22):
something called immorality, which they don't really quite define, public drunkenness,
whatever stupid things the teenagers do, that not the first time,
but by the second or third time, you the parent
will be held not just civilly liable, but criminally liable.
That you're looking at up to ninety days in prison

(33:45):
and up to two thousand dollars fine. So, for example,
if Ashton decided to vandalize the school, or if Ashton,
you know, was with his friends and they got drunk
and whatever, you know, vandalized or busted up a car,
you would go to jail. I would go to jail.

(34:06):
To me, that is a very dangerous precedent. It goes
against personal responsibility. It strips away parental rights and parental authority.
But that's me. Do you think it's fair that parents
should be jailed or fined? If their kids break the law.

Speaker 8 (34:25):
Jeff, it is ridiculous. It is idiotic. You know, this
is a stupid idea because the point is you need
to teach individuals to be accountable for their own actions.
And it is as though saying you're not really one
hundred percent responsible for what you did, your parents are.

(34:46):
So again, it's sending the message to these kids that
they are not their own agent. They have to be
taught from a very young age. You do this, there
is a consequence. You do that, there is a consequence.
And this is another form of the lack of socialization
because at the root of it, we're seeing too many

(35:08):
children who are not socialized from the small actions to
the large actions. And at the core of this, we
have to teach them that your actions have an impact
on everybody around you, and you will be held accountable
for those actions, the good ones and the bad ones.
And this is going in the opposite direction. Moreover, the parent,

(35:29):
if they have more than one child and you take
that parent away for ninety days, think of the chaos
that you're going to cause in the family. So you're
going to cause even more social disruption.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Grace spanking, a lot of people have made the point
today parents have had their hands tied by social workers,
by the left, by liberals for decades. Now you can't
discipline your children. By the way I think about it,
they're telling you how to discipline your child in your
own home. You want to talk about big brother and

(36:01):
government overreach, okay, but let that go. So you can't
spank your child. You can't discipline your child. You can't
even send your child to your room or you know whatever,
go to a bed without dinner, because that's now form
of child abuse. So okay, I can't discipline or spank
my child. But now that my child is fifteen, sixteen, seventeen,

(36:23):
now they're running wild. So now you want to send
me to jail if they commit crimes or break the
law or misbehave. But you tied my hands and prevented
me from spanking and disciplining them when they were much younger.
In other words, they want to have it both ways.
My question to you, is part of this just a

(36:46):
lack of discipline in the home.

Speaker 8 (36:50):
Well, there is part of that. So you know the
famous saying spare the rod, spoil the child. It looks
like we should act spare the rod, spoil the child
and ruin your society because that's where we're headed right now,
because we have all these kids that are not properly socialized.
And then think about what the children are being exposed to.
They're being sexualized at a very early age, far too

(37:12):
young for them to properly understand what they're being told.
So they're being messed up from an early age, and
we're not allowed to intervene.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
In that right.

Speaker 8 (37:20):
In many cases, there are laws which say that a
child can choose their gender and the parent's not supposed
to know about it.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
So the schools are.

Speaker 8 (37:28):
Actively denigrating the parental authority. And then at the same time,
by the time they're grown up, now suddenly the parent
is responsible for everything the child does, when the whole childhood,
all you've done is tell the child that the parent's
authority means nothing. Do you know how many conversations I've
had with the kids saying, hey, I'm smarter than you
you got I know more than you you got it,

(37:48):
I'm wiser than you got it. This is my brain
and I draw big circle, and this is your brain
and I draw a little circle. I'm sorry because I
don't feel Often in discussions with them that they understand
that I have a superior position. It's like a battle
just to just to get that point across to them.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Or you know, they think they can call a social
worker on you, or protective services or DCF. Not really,
I mean, don't you you know you dare punish me.
I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna have you arrested.
You you spank me, I'm gonna have you arrested. So
they're they're inundated with these ideas mostly from their teachers
and their schools and the culture that they they have

(38:31):
rights that supersede those are the parents. And what you
have done now is we've created these little self you know, entitled, narcissistic,
self absorbed little monsters. And little monsters grow up to
be big monsters. All right, doctor Grace, on that on
that cheery note, Uh, where Ashen and I are happy

(38:52):
you're back from Portugal,