Is Stopping Iran Worth American Lives?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Cooner. Contrary, Okay, my friends, we are now clearly,
there's no question, we are now moving very close. In fact,
we're on the verge now of seeing the United States
formally enter the war against Iran. The White House now

(00:20):
has come out and said yesterday there was about an
eighty minute, about an hour twenty minute National Security team
meeting with President Trump in the Situation Room in which
they said, now a range of options was discussed. But
the White House now says there is no question President Trump,

(00:43):
their words, not mine, is seriously weighing whether to launch
massive US strikes joining Israel to smash the regime in Iran.
In other words, President Trump now now is seriously thinking
of getting the United States directly involved in the war

(01:07):
between Israel and Iran. And it's not just his administration
that's saying it. It's not just senior officials that are
saying it. If you look now, it is public social
media posts. He's acting more and more like we're about
to enter the war, and in some ways that we're

(01:27):
already in the war. This is what he said yesterday
regarding Israel's dominance over the air in Iran, Israeli warplanes
about two hundred of them continue now to hammer and
pound key military nuclear installations across Iran. In particular, they

(01:51):
are targeting Tehran areas around the capital city. They are
hitting government buildings, they are hitting sensitive military sites, and
they continue now to hammer away at some of their
enrichment facilities, not just in the capitol, but all over
the country. Tehran itself, the capital is complete mayhem and bedlam.

(02:15):
Now millions, literally millions are now fleeing in their cars.
They now fear that the worst is about to come.
Listen now to President Trump quote, this is what he wrote.
We now, we notice the way he phrased it. We
not Israel. We now have complete and total control of

(02:39):
the skies over Iran. Iran had good skytrackers and other
defensive equipment, and plenty of it, but it doesn't compare
to American made, conceived and manufactured, And he puts in
quotes stuff nobody does it better than the good old USA.

(03:02):
So he's basically saying we're in a formal alliance with Israel,
we and that we are now helping them achieve total
air superiority and dominance over the sky over the airspace
of Iran and furthermore that we are now going to

(03:24):
protect that massive dominance over the sky going into the future. Now,
he further then said this, which I have to tell you,
I started laughing. I just I said this guy. I
love this guy, whatever you think about whether we should
go to war or not. So this is what he added. Again,

(03:45):
Notice we not Israel. We quote. Here's what he said
about the Supreme Leader, the Ayatola ali Hamani quote. We
know exactly where the so called quote unquote Supreme Leader
is riding. He is an easy target but is safe there.

(04:08):
We are not going to take him out. And then
he puts in parentheses kill with an exclamation point. So
we're not going to take him out kill at least
not for now. But we don't want missiles shot at
civilians or American soldiers. Our patients is wearing thin. Thank

(04:28):
you for your attention to this matter. And then very
shortly after that he then issued in all of it
in caps capitalized. He just simply put two words unconditional surrender.
So a he's telling the Supreme Leader, we know exactly

(04:50):
which bunker you're in. We can kill you at any
moment that we want, and if you dare to attack
you as basis. If you dare to attack American civilians
or Americans in the region or anywhere around the world,
you're a dead man. You're a dead man. You're going
to join Allah and get your seventy two virgins, according

(05:14):
to what you people think. So get ready. Now the
seventy two virgins are coming. So he's now, but more
than that, he's now saying that the United States and
Israel are going to target and assassinate the leader of
Iran and wipe out their leadership or decapitate their leadership. Furthermore,

(05:36):
he is now calling for the full, unconditional surrender of Iran. Now, remember,
just a couple days ago, Marco Rubio came out our
Secretary of State and said we were not involved in
this war. The Trump administration came out and said that
this was Israel's operation. Yes we support them, yes we're

(05:59):
giving them all the moral support, diplomatic support, but that
this was Bebe's baby and Israel's baby all the way. Now,
there has been a dramatic shift from diplomacy in which,
if you remember, Trump kept saying I want to give
the Mullahs in Tehran a diplomatic exit ramp an escape patch.

(06:22):
Come to the table. We'll get rid of your entire
enrichment program, all of your nuclear weapons program. And we
can do this the easy way, i e. Through negotiations,
or the hard way, in which the Israelis just pound
you right into the Stone Age, bomb you right back
to the Stone Age. Now, diplomacy is gone. Now he's

(06:46):
talking as if the United States has already entered the war,
is already helping Israel with key parts of their operations,
and that they're now going to assassinate the Ayatola anytime
they wish, and that he's now dictating military terms to
the Iranians, i e. Like in World War Two, we

(07:09):
want a complete, unconditional surrender now. In response to this,
In response to this, the Supreme Leader the Ayatola Ali Hamani,
through the Iranian state media, issued the following threat. It

(07:32):
is a cryptic and terrifying warning. But this is what
they now said. Quote that there is a surprise tonight
that the world will remember for centuries, and they're just
leaving it at that. Now, what is that surprise that

(07:55):
tonight that the world is going to remember for centuries.
The only only thing I can think of is a
nuclear attack. I mean, I'm not trying to panic people.
I'm just looking. I may be wrong, but I think
it's obvious this is a they're nuclear saber rattling. Now,
it could be a bluff. I hope it's a bluff.

(08:18):
There's a lot of psychological warfare that happens when a
war breaks out, and after you threaten to kill the
supreme leader and you know, they're destroying Iran's military and
nuclear installations and calling for complete and utter, unconditional surrender,
in other words, basically the overthrow of the regime. Yeah,

(08:38):
they're desperate, they're backs against the wall, and who knows,
they may start saying all kinds of crazy stuff. But
the fear all along has been maybe they've already attained
the bomb, or as Israel's been warning in the Israeli media,
they may be just two or three days or a
week away from the bomb, which means they are trying

(09:00):
to assemble one and then god forbid, detonated on Israel
or on the United States or somewhere. Now on top
of that, and this is why tensions are. I mean,
they couldn't be higher right now, tensions are sky high.
The Iranian government under how many has now issued a

(09:23):
holy war. They have now come out and said the
battle is on. This is now a holy war against
Israel and the United States. And has he put it
it is time to show no mercy. So we are
now seeing an all out war between Israel and Iran,

(09:46):
and we are clearly now slowly but surely being dragged
and sucked into it. And so the question now that
is before us is now the biggest question facing Trump's
entire presidency, and really our country I believe is now
at a watershed moment, at a crossroads. Should the United

(10:11):
States directly get itself involved in the war formally? In
other words, should Trump order massive US military and airstrikes
on Tehran, on Iran, join Israel and topple and overthrow

(10:33):
the Iranian regime, destroy their entire nuclear weapons program, and
take Iran and the Mullahs out. As I speak to you,
the USS Carl Vincent is now one of our biggest
aircraft carriers, is now in the region. The USS Nimits,

(10:53):
another massive aircraft carrier, is racing to the Persian Gulf.
There is now a third US aircraft carrier, the USS Ford,
which is now racing to that area. The United States
is now sending in tens of thousands of troops in
the region. Six one seven two six, six, sixty eight

(11:15):
sixty eight. Okay, I just again, I want to restate this.
President Trump has not made a final decision yet. He's
still weighing all of his options. But let me just
tell you what Matt Gates said. Okay. Matt Gates, who's
very close with the President, has spoken to him multiple
times over the last couple of days, says that Trump's

(11:38):
instincts are to stay out of the war. I support Israel,
let them finish the job, but not to formally join
Israel in this attack on Iran and smash the Uranian regime. However,
Gates says that Trump is now coming under immassive, immense
pressure from and yahoo from the Israeli government, from neo conservatives,

(12:04):
and in particular some in the media Sean Hannity, Mark Levin.
Many of the neo cons are putting tremendous and Republicans
Lindsey Graham is there all the time pushing him, saying
this is the moment America now must jump in and
deliver the decisive knockout blow. So he hasn't made a

(12:28):
decision yet, but it looks like he's slowly creeping towards
a decision to launch US strikes. We shall see. It
looks like a decision will be made in the next
couple of days, and at the very minimum, we as
a country have to debate and discuss whether it's the

(12:49):
right thing for us to do. Wherever you stand on
this issue, and I'm going to make my position crystal clear,
I promise, but wherever you stand on this issue, going
to war is not a like thing. It's one of
the most serious things a country can do. We deserve
a good, honest, robust debate. That's what we're gonna have

(13:11):
on the Kuner report. Six one seven two, six, six,
sixty eight, sixty eight is the number. So let me
ask you. It is now the sixty four thousand dollars question.
Should the United States join Israel and now attack Iran
to wipe out its nuclear weapons, its ballistic missiles, and yes,

(13:35):
most likely smash this theocratic regime once and for all.
Dave Inborn, thanks for holding Dave, You're gonna kick us
off and welcome.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Good morning, Jeff. How are you.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
I'm good?

Speaker 2 (13:50):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Dave?

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Oh? Not too bad? Keep in mind that when the
United States uh had had it with Iraq, that it
was easy to defeat the Iraqi army and air force,
but it took years to bring stability to the country.
And if any at all, is there an opposition party

(14:15):
to these mulas that could step in with the support
of the Iranian population.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Well, Dave, look, you're asking a very important question, and
that's one of the questions. According I'm just going by
reports now and this is coming from apparently by from
senior administration officials. This is one of the questions Trump
asked in the situation room. Well, okay, but what's the exit?
He's asking now, Well, what's the exit strategy?

Speaker 2 (14:42):
You know?

Speaker 1 (14:43):
And he said this, if we break it, we own it.
In other words, okay, fine, we go in, we can
smash them, We can do that. And let's say the
Iatolas are overthrown or they're just their regime has just
wiped out. Well, who's going to take over and how
do we get out? Now? What happened yesterday that was

(15:03):
also very significant, Dave, is that the son of the
Shaw that he was the one that was deposed by
these iatolas in nineteen seventy nine, The Crown Prince Pachlavi
came out and said that the Iranian regime is now crumbling.
As he put it, it is coming to an end.
He is offering himself and he still claims to be

(15:27):
the heir to the throne as a transition figure. Now,
whether the Iranian people will follow him is a different story.
But he's offering himself as a transition figure to a
national democratic government, he says in about three or four months,
in which he promises that he will oversee elections in Iran. Now,

(15:51):
the problem with the Crown Prince is a the Iranians
don't seem to have an appetite for a restoration of
the monarchy be he and look, I love bb net Niyahu,
please don't get me wrong, but in the Middle East,
among the Muslims as a matter, if it's Shia or Sunni,
they can't stand the guy. So Paul Lavi, the Crown Prince,

(16:15):
has been tied to net Niyahu over the years and
that has really damaged him. He is hated by many Iranians,
not just supporters of the regime, but even dissidence of
the regime. So it doesn't appear that he has that
much clout or influence within Iran itself. But it's obvious

(16:35):
now that they're him coming out so publicly and openly
basically griding this wave of the Israeli attack. It's almost
as if, look, Israel and now America will topple Iran.
I'm the guy they're going to install in the short term,
I will oversee this transition to democracy. There doesn't seem

(16:56):
to be a lot of support for that within Iran itself,
and I think that's one of the big problems if
we go all in. To be frank, there is no
coordinated Iranian opposition or opposition group that is ready to
take over the country. And so the fear is and
this is the question Trump is asking, and he's right

(17:18):
to ask this question because it's easy to go to war,
as we saw with the Iraq Afghanistan, it's very hard
to get out. Will this plunge the country into civil war,
into chaos, into anarchy, which could lead to even bigger
problems down the road. So the short answer to your

(17:38):
question is, Dave, right now, there is no viable internal opposition,
democratic opposition that we can hang our head on.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Huge mistake to turn Tearan into what Dresden looked like
in February of nineteen forty five, or even the so
called Hell's Highway of destruction of that road, of all
the cars and trucks of vehicles during the Iraq War.
It would not be a good look to the United

(18:14):
States or Israel for that matter. And right now, if
you notice, and I'm sure you and all the listeners
on your show noticed, that Iran has no friends, the Egyptians,
the Saudis, take your pick. No one's stepping in and
telling the United States and Israel to back off. This
is wrong.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Well, no, you're you're right. I mean, look, I mean
they've been trying to Look, they've been trying to dominate
the region for forty years. They've tried to create a
Shia empire across the Middle East. So you're right. You know,
you mentioned Egypt and Saudi Arabia. I would throw in
Turkey as well, and those are the great Sunni powers.
So there's no love for the Mullahs, Dave. The one

(18:59):
thing that Iran does have is they have the backing
of China and Pakistan. Russia to some extent, but China
and Pakistan, and China now has come out and said
if the United States gets involved, they will get involved.
Pakistan has said if America gets involved, they will get involved.

(19:19):
So again, this could spark a larger war or at
least a larger confrontation. So that's why Trump has got
a very big decision to make. I believe his presidency
hangs in the balance now. The decision that he makes
now will determine his presidency. Not just the fate of Iran, Israel,

(19:41):
and the region, but I believe really the destiny of
his presidency and with it, the country. And so that's
why I'm saying we have to have an honest, vigorous debate.
We have to add, by the way, poll's show sixty
percent of Americans are against the war. They like Israel
attacking Iran. Okay, very quick reset, because I want to go.

(20:04):
The lines are screaming, they're jammed, jammed, jammed. Text line
is on fire. You can text the kooner man seven
zero four seven zero seven zero four seven zero. Trump
now yesterday has now called for Iran, the leadership the
Mullahs in Tehran to unconditional surrender. He said, now nothing

(20:26):
less is acceptable. He wants the full, unconditional surrender. Of
these antisemitic frankly to me, Nazis they are. There's no
question in my mind these are Islamic fascists. But anyway
that these theocratic thugs and this vile regime must surrender completely,

(20:47):
not in terms of losing power, but they must give
up their entire nuclear weapons program now, all of their
enrichment sites now and essentially capitche to Israel and the
United States. Furthermore, as I mentioned in my opening monologue,
but it bears repeating, Trump now is constantly referring to

(21:10):
what Israel is doing as we and he said, we
have now attained total and complete control of the skuise
over Iran. Now what that means is he's basically saying,
we've been helping Israel completely now launch this operation, sustain
this operation, We're essentially a co belligerent, and that we

(21:34):
will continue to maintain complete control of the skies, which
means the war is going to go on for days
and weeks if necessary, until they literally pound Iran. The
Iranian leadership the mullahs into submission. Six one seven two, six,
six sixty eight sixty eight is the number, Okay, it

(21:58):
is the Kooner country, the whole Question of the Day
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Trump now is going to make a decision very soon
on whether to officially launch strikes US strikes on Iran

(22:20):
and join Israel to topple that country. American lives are
going to be lost every war. American lives are lost.
Israeli lives have been lost, many of them civilians. A
lot of Iranians are now dying. Americans will die if
we go to war. That's just how it is. So

(22:42):
the question I have for you, this is the question,
and Trump is weighing. This is stopping Iran worth American lives.
Let me repeat, it is stopping Iran worth American lives.
A yes, B no. You can vote on our web

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Kooner report. All one word kuh And is in national Er.

(23:33):
This is from seven eight one. Jeff, I believe it
is time to complete the mission. When the theocratic madman
I e the supreme leader with prostate problems threatens the
United States. The plan of action requires immediate complete neutralization

(23:56):
of that threat with the most extreme prejudice. And I
think Trump's already made the decision, and that decision takes
about thirty hours for delivery, the time it takes for
the bunker busters to arrive on those b two stealth
bombers from their basis stateside. If the United States does join,

(24:21):
a major reason why will be four dough fordw for
those If you want to do some research, that is
Iran's secret nuclear enrichment facility that is buried deep inside
a mountain, about three hundred feet underneath the mountain. And

(24:42):
Israel needs the bunker busters, these huge penetrating, deep penetrating
bombs to smash four Dough. They need the bombs which
they don't have, and the bombers which they don't have.
And so one of the big decisions Trump has to
make is will he formally joined the war and smash

(25:04):
for Dough to I mean literally two pieces, just vombit
to oblivion, drop about three or four of those massive
bunker busters, smash everything in its way, and destroy four
Dough in the process. Six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight Susie in Carlisle. Thanks for holding,

(25:27):
Susie and welcome. Good morning, Jeff, Hi Susan.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
I want to I just want to make a few points.
First of all, Iran has been behaving like a petulant
child for many decades.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
They have vomited.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Threats, they have followed through with threats. I'd like to
point out when our marines were murdered in de Route
and again nothing of subsistence came from it. Now here's
that's a question. I have you said China and I
forget the other contraction.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
There's three countries that are backing Iran or China, Russia
and Pakistan. Those are the three big powers.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Christian.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
How do we know China isn't the one instigating this
and putting Iran out there as the bait saying here,
do this, do this, do this, and they're paying them
to instigate, just to create this conflict, this war. Now again,
I understand their Quran, and you know they have to

(26:37):
bring a mean. They have to be the means to
the ends, to bring the end of the world whatever,
so that they can see their Allah.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Whatever.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
I personally think they should all just commit suicide. That's
my personal opinion, but I'm just trying to think in
the bigger picture. I think I believe that China has
been finance seeing Iran for a long time, and they've
used us as suckers, I e. Obama and Biden giving

(27:08):
them palettes of cash and unbelievable amounts of money. So
they've been taken that also. I mean, I understand war
is brutal, I understand people will die, But you know what,
what makes anybody think that when Iran does get their
nuclear capability to full power, that Americans aren't going to

(27:32):
die then also or anyway, and Israelis aren't going to
die anyway.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
This needs to be done.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
This should have been taken care of decades ago.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Shame on all the leadership.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Before today that they did not take care of it
before today. And you know what, I pray for President
Trump every day. I support him, I support his team,
I support his administer. I would not want to be
in the position because I have a very hot temper.

(28:07):
And again, this should have been dealt with decades ago.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Well, Susie, look, we're reaching now an endpoint. Israel is
not going to stop and if the United States joins
the war, I think the Mullas will be toppled, okay,
just very quickly, because I thought Susie was a very
passionate caller and a very thought provoking caller. There's no question,

(28:31):
and she's right. China has been subsidizing funding Iran now
for decades. In fact, more and more and more over
the years. Their support hasn't declined. It just continues to increase.
And China has helped underwrite their military expansion. So did Obama,
so did Biden. When we gave them literally billions of dollars.

(28:54):
We created the Democrats. Obama and Biden created this military
monster in the Middle East. Just to be crystal clear,
but China's been pumping billions of dollars into Iran as well,
and they see Iran as their proxy in the Middle East. Furthermore,

(29:15):
as you know, there are devastating or very strict sanctions
on Iran. Well, where do you think they sell their
oil to. They sell it primarily to China. So what
China now, They've got a client they don't want to
lose An ally, they don't want to see fall. And
remember China needs that oil for its growing economy. So

(29:39):
China is behind the scenes telling Trump to be very
careful that you know, in other words, we're not going
to sit idly by. The Beijing has told Washington and
told Tel Aviv in Jerusalem. They've told bb Net Nyahu,
you think you're going to topple the Mullas and we're
just going to sit by and allow this to happen.

(30:01):
So this is why, if you want my brutally honest opinion, look,
I don't like the Mullas. I hate the Mullas. I've
hated them for over forty five years. My position, though,
is that a US attack on Iran, a direct involvement
of our side, our country, our forces, would be a

(30:24):
huge mistake. I think it will split the magabase. Many
Trump supporters are against this. They did not vote for
Endless Wars. Not only will this split maga's base, I
think it's going to further inflame the region. I think

(30:45):
you're going to see a huge response, a massive response
from Pakistan, which has a bomb, China and Russia. And
my fear is I don't want to see this escalate
to World War III. The moment we get involved, it
changes absolutely everything. It is going to inflame the region

(31:05):
already now, just so that you know, it is breaking
in the Daily Telegraph in Britain, one of their most
respected newspapers, that Iran now is poised to hit US
bases somewhere in the region. So already now this may
be escalating beyond our control. And not only can this
spark a regional war and God forbid World War III,

(31:30):
but once we are committed, this is going to force
us to compel regime change in Tehran. If you break it,
you own it. Once we go in and go in
hard and heavy and demand the unconditional surrender of the
of the Iranian regime. As Trump has said, then okay,

(31:53):
we overthrow the Mullahs and then what then? What has
Iraq taught nothing? Has Afghanistan taught us nothing? So now
we're going to become sucked in and embroiled in Iran
and in nation building in Iran. American boys and girls

(32:14):
are going to come home in body bags. And let
me tell you what bothers me. And I'm going to
end with this, and I want to go back to
the phone calls because we can agree to disagree. I'm
just giving you my point of view and you know,
take it for what it's worth. I could be wrong.
I mean, I'm you know, we'll see what happens. But
what is to me frightening is this reminds me a

(32:35):
lot of the build up to the war in Iraq,
where everybody said it was going to be a cakewalk,
it was going to be easy, it was going to
be an easy victory, and nobody thought about the exit strategy. Okay,
it's easy to go in, it's easy to blow things up, fine,
but then what what do you do after that? Nobody's

(32:58):
thinking this thing through again. It's as if we somehow
have this blind faith. Well, then the Iranian people will
come out and they'll chat democracy, democracy, democracy, and then
they'll put in a democratic, peaceful, pro American, pro Israel,
pro Western government. That's not how life works. That's a fantasy.

(33:23):
The country could splinter, the country could break apart, it
could unleash. Remember Isis was born in the Iraq War.
God knows what monstrosity now could be born out of
this war if this regime completely is shattered with no
viable alternative to replace it. So my position is a

(33:45):
simple one, and I don't understand why we have to
get involved. Israel is winning the war Israel is doing,
as the German chancellor. I can't believe I'm citing the
Germans on this, but Germany now has come out and said, yeah,
we back Israel. Why because, as the Chancellor said, Israel
is doing the dirty work for the West. They're doing

(34:08):
our dirty work. So if they're doing our dirty work,
let them do it, Like get out of the way.
I'm looking at this and I'm like, why are we
getting involved? Trump so far has played it perfectly. It's
like a perfect chess game. Every move has been perfection. BB.

(34:33):
Netanyahu has the Israeli public behind them on this war
one hundred percent. The IDF is conducting an incredible precise
operation in a way frankly that to me, I think
puts us to shame, if you want to know the truth.
So we've already helped Israel as much as we could.

(34:55):
If they need bunker busters, give them the bunker busters. Honestly,
if they need the stealth bombers, give them the stealth bombers,
let them drop it. But once we get involved, it
changes everything. And remember look how smart BB is. Listen

(35:17):
to him very carefully. What does he say? People ask
him all the time, Well, is your goal regime change?
He's like no, he says, what's my goal? To destroy
their nuclear capability completely and to end and wipe out
their ballistic missile program. He says, Now, if there's regime
change as a consequence, if the Iranian people rise up

(35:38):
and overthrow the Mullas, great, but that's not within our
power to do. Once the United States gets involved, people
are gonna say, you break it, you own it, you
want unconditional surrender. You want to topple the Mullas. Then,

(35:59):
like any raw, what are you going to replace it with?
And that's an occupation. And I'll tell you it reminds
me of the build up to Iraq. Senator Ted Cruz,
who's all in now, He's like Lindsey Graham. They're pushing
Trump hard, get involved, bow me Iran, send in troops,

(36:19):
go all in. Let's go all in. Okay. He was
asked point blank, well by Tucker Carlson in fact of
all people. He said, you know, I'm just curious, since
you want to topple that country, how many people are
in Iran? What's the population of Iran? Ted Cruz had
no idea. I mean literally, he had no idea and

(36:43):
I thought it was eighty five million. Actually he's ninety
two million. And Ted CRU's okay, I didn't know, and
Tucker made it. I mean, I'm not a big fan
of Tucker. I think he's gotten a little bit off
the rails lately. But what I'm saying is like, you're
going to invade a country and you don't even know
how much many people live there. Ninety two million, that's

(37:06):
California three times. Do you know the ethnic makeup of Iran? No? Well,
how could you not know? It's not a quiz. There
are Kords in Iran. What do you think the Kurds want?
They want to break up Iran, They want to secede
from Iran. They want to separate and join Kurdistan in

(37:30):
northern Iraq. The point being, you have different ethnic groups
that have their own agendas. This thing could unleash a
civil war. You have no idea even the ethnic makeup
of the country you're about to freaking invade. Like in
other words, ignorance, ignorance combined with arrogance and self righteousness.

(37:56):
And again, for what, why is Israel losing the war?

Speaker 4 (38:00):
No?

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Is Israel an imminent threat of being destroyed? In this war.
Absolutely not. They hit just by the way yesterday direct
hit on the tents, which was it's the heart of
the Uranian enrichment nuclear program. It's also underground. The direct hit.
I mean they have smashed that. I mean two pieces.

(38:25):
So when your ally is destroying your enemy for you,
get out of the way. Thread the needle the way
Trump has been threading the needle and just keep saying, guys,
to the mullets, we can do it the easy way
or the hard way. You're not getting a nuclear bomb period.

(38:50):
Now you want Israel to keep pounding, they'll keep pounding.
Or you can come at the diplomatic table and maybe
save what's left of your leadership and military like it's
up to you. So I don't understand why we always
have to get directly involved. And it wasn't like this

(39:11):
for most of our history. So the pressure is building
on Trump and why that's the thing. I don't know
why they're winning, Israel's winning. What's the rush? What's the rush?
And if they need bunker busters, give them bunker busters.
If they need the bombers, give them the bombers, but

(39:35):
keep our fingerprints out of it. And I want to
say one last thing. The reason why both Netanyahu to
his credit and Trump, obviously to his credit, have told
the people of Tehran to evacuate is because there is
a massive enrichment facility right near Teyhran. If that facil

(40:00):
facility is hit hard, there could be massive contamination. Radiation
could leak, Radiation could leak. This could be another potential chernobyl.
Tehran has almost ten million people. Well, at least it did.
I mean, I don't know. People are fleeing now, who

(40:20):
knows what I mean? You know, but whatever the it
was ten million, tightly packed, highly congested. You have a
radiation leak. You could see millions of Iranians potentially dead
or contaminated or suffer from radiation poisoning. I'm not saying
it's gonna happen, but you have to consider these things. Now, imagine,

(40:45):
just imagine if we're formerly part of this attack, We're
gonna be blamed, not just Israel, We're gonna be blamed.
You think Themmuslim world is going to forgive us for this? Look,
I'm not afraid of the Muslim world. I'm just saying,

(41:07):
do a cost benefit analysis. If Israel is destroying and
degrading your enemy. What do we get from formally getting
ourselves involved. We get most of the headaches with very
little of the upside. We're not adding that much more,

(41:30):
except God forbid. It will be condemned as a war crime,
even though to me, the Mullahs are to blame. They
should never have had this program, so if something happens,
it's their fault, okay, But still the Muslim world will
never forgive us for a thousand years. So what I'm
saying is you've played it perfectly up to now. We've

(41:53):
been behind the scenes. We've been helping them every step
of the way, but formally it's their war, not war.
Once we become an official co belligerent, it now becomes
our war. And honestly, I think we need another war
in the Middle East, like we need a hole in

(42:13):
the head. But that's me. That's why I want a
discussion and a debate. And that's the other thing I
hate the way the media is now stampeding everybody to war.
You see it now, Fox in particular, but all of them.
It's like now it's bombs away, come on, let's go,
let's go, like almost like what's Trump's waiting for? Come on?

(42:36):
Let's go, let's go, let's go, relax. What's the rash?
If we're gonna go to war, I think Congress should
authorize it. There needs to be a declaration of war
by Congress, and the country has to have a proper,
thorough debate. It can be a quick debate, doesn't have

(42:58):
to take weeks if it's so pressing that we go
to war. But I don't like going to war without
consulting with the American people or they're elected representatives. Agree, disagree,
Brad in Brookline, Thanks for holding Brad, and welcome.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
I don't think Trump should listen to those Neil Neo
groy for friends of yours, gags Carls and Candae Zmes
and whatnot. I mean he should. He should focus on
US interests and not a hatred of a particular ethnicry
as those guys are.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Yeah, I'm just sorry. Why do you say they're my friends?

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Your use?

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Tucker Carlson's a straight shooter. He's a paid agent of Qatar.
I just looked it up. Guitar.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Now, Okay, Well, first of all, I condemned Tucker Carlson yesterday,
and I've criticized them repeatedly in the past the groupers.
I have no idea what you're talking about. So let
me get this straight. I guess you're trying to imply
I'm an anti Semite. So no one has been a
stauncher defender of Israel than me. I'm the one saying,

(44:14):
go b B, go take out you know, take out
Iron's nuclear program. I just don't want us to be
formally involved. And suddenly now I'm a Jew hater and
an anti Semite. Like, dude, are you serious?

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Remember the things you said about Talker, what a straight
shooter is in such a lot?

Speaker 1 (44:35):
I never said he's a straight shooter. When did I
say he's a straight shooter?

Speaker 3 (44:39):
You said it months ago. I used to listen to you.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
You used to listen to me. Okay, well, he's not
a straight shooter. Now I'll tell you this. I don't
think I ever said that about him. But okay, who cares?

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Well?

Speaker 1 (44:53):
You know? So, okay, but what does this have to
do with my argument?

Speaker 3 (44:59):
The argument and the Muslim world. I don't care what
the Muslim world thinks. I don't care how much they scream.
And we're going to die anyway if this regime in
Tehran is not severely depleted.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
And is Israel losing the war or winning the war?

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Still there?

Speaker 1 (45:21):
I'm sorry?

Speaker 3 (45:21):
What I Something must be done about that, at least
I'm sorry. What how do you call it? The photo raw?
How do I pronounce that? That underground facility? What is it?

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Four dough?

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Four dou Yeah? That one?

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (45:37):
What about for DOAU that should be taken out?

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Well, it is going to be taken out?

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Oh yet?

Speaker 1 (45:47):
And well give the Israeli's time here look Times of
Israel yesterday's edition. Israel's National Security Advisor. Whether the Americans
joined the war or not, I'm literally quoting directly, four
dough will be destroyed. So Israel has multiple options. Even
if we don't give them the bunker busters, they have

(46:08):
multiple options on taking out four dough. They can use
smaller penetrating bombs, which they have, and then just chip
away at the mountain, chip away at the mountain, chip
away at the mountain, and then eventually destroy it. Or
what they're also talking about is a commando raid where
they send in Israeli troops and they go deep underground
and they blow the whole thing up. So bib netn

(46:31):
Yahoo has come out and all of his generals have
said this war will not end until four Dough is
in pieces. Now, they'd like the United States to give
them the bunker Busters because they believe these massive ordnance bombs.
They're thirty thousand pounds. It's much easier, it's much more direct,

(46:53):
it's much more simple. So they think the highest level
of success would be through the bunker Busters. But even
the Israeli media is saying, we can take four Doau.
We don't even need the Americans to take for dou. Now, look,
it doesn't matter. Listen, I don't care really if you
think America should join the war. I get it, Okay,

(47:15):
I do, I get it. Let me tell you what
I can stand is that you call this show and
call me an anti Semite when you have no basis
to make that kind of a slanderous allegation. You know,
everything I've argued with you is fox, disagree, agree, it
doesn't matter, But you call me a Jew hater, You

(47:37):
call me an anti Semite because I don't want my
country to be involved in another Middle East war. So
tell me, are you gonna go fight? Tough guy? Are
you gonna go fight because it's easy? You're like Lindsey
Graham and all these other neo conservatives. It's easy to say,

(47:58):
let's go to war, but you never volunteer yourself. You
never go fight, you never send your children to fight.
You see, unlike you, I do events with veterans all
the time, and I deal with wounded veterans all the time.
I deal with the fallout of these wars. I see
them maimed and crippled. I see them with the traumatic

(48:19):
brain injury. I see what wars do to our men
and our women. And I'm sorry. But if you want
to call me a Jew hater because I put America
and Americans first, then you know what, You're a disloyal American.
I'm gonna tell you to your face, you're a traitor.

(48:39):
The only country that I ultimately care about is America.
I love Israel, I love the Israeli people. I love them,
and I support them in their struggle against Iran. But
in the end, I'm not a citizen of Israel. I'm
a citizen of America. And my allegiance when I came
here as an immigrant was to the Constitution of the

(49:00):
United States of America, not to any other country in
the world. And so because I express my opinion that
we should not directly get involved in this war. Suddenly,
now I'm a Jew hating anti Semite. You should be
ashamed of yourself.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Not well, on the frontline here there was a work
thrown through at a butchery shop. I frequent saying free Palestine.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Yeah, hey, hey, you moron, you moron. I talked about
that two days ago. I condemned it two days ago.
I was the only one in the media that condemned
it two days ago. You know, you're you're an idiot.
It's people like you, I'm telling you. It's people like
you that do Israel harm. It's people like you that

(49:53):
do Jews in this country harm when you attack your
allies and friends right in the freaking back. So maybe
you should think before you open your mouth. Now, you
know what, since you like to take a shot at me,
let me take a shot at you. Blank off six
one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. The

(50:17):
guy's an idiot. The guy's an absolute idiot. Ah ah
uh called Tucker Carlson a straight shooter. Well was that
three months ago?

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Well?

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Actually I didn't. Oh what's the what's the regiment facility?
They got a how do you want, you sigh of
a Ford for what?

Speaker 4 (50:41):
For what?

Speaker 1 (50:44):
You're right, your ahead, Joes. This is what I mean.
This is what I mean. You can't, you can't have
a rational, decent, adult discussion and debate in this country.
And that's why I hate the neo conservatives because that's
Lindsey Graham. That's how they argue, you know, by the way,

(51:06):
that's Mark Levin. That's another one I can't stand anymore.