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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six seven two six six, sixty eight sixty eight, if
you want to be part of the show best audience
in the business. I know I keep saying it. I know,
I know you said, Jefeff, Jeff, Jeff, how many times
are you gonna repeat yourself like a like a broken record.
It's true. I don't know what else to tell you.
This is from Lara on Messenger, and she makes a

(00:23):
really good point. Jeff, have we considered that Jeffrey Epstein's
client list is quote unquote mutually assured destruction? I remember
hearing a while back that Jeffrey Epstein was an asset
for both the CIA and the masade. The deep state

(00:46):
is likely made up of more than just agents in
the United States. But also I do think that there
are still too many high ranking officials in the United
States who would be taken out by that client list.
President Trump may be afraid of a huge public backlash,
or he may start using the intelligence himself. If his

(01:10):
administration starts encountering far fewer roadblocks, I'll be suspicious. But
I'm not buying that Epstein killed himself, and I'm not
buying that some loan idiot got by police and secret
service to take a shot at the president based on
what we've learned thus far. I'm with you all the way, Learra,

(01:31):
I'm with you all the way. Let me just go
one more. This is from Jerome, who makes really a
phenomenal point, Jeff. If Dan Bongino was still on the radio,
if he was still on the air, he would be
screaming bs about this report about Epstein. Yes, that's why

(01:55):
everybody's like, oh what what. That's why it's generated such
a backlash on social media among conservatives and among MAGA
they're like, but no, if if you weren't the deputy
and Cash Patel and another deputy came out and said this,
you would be and rightfully, you'd be raking them over

(02:17):
the coals on his show. He'd be doing what I'm
doing now. He'd be like, hey, what are you guys smoking?
Or be who the hell is threatening you? You know
you don't believe what you're saying. So again, something is
up and hopefully we'll find out soon. Agree, disagree? Rob

(02:37):
in debt him. Thanks for holding Rob and welcome Jeff, Rob.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yes can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (02:47):
I can hear you? Rob? Can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Absolutely shutting down I'm sorry, what Rob, are you sitting down? Yes?

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yes, go ahead, Rob, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
I don't care what Bongino says or Patel says. I
care about my roommate in college who represented Epstein, Maxwell,
the Proud Boys, Web Hubble, Paul Manniford's what he said
when I asked him, what killed himself? Period?

Speaker 1 (03:19):
He killed himself? Oh really period?

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Period?

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Okay? Now why why why?

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Why? Why? Why would I couldn't get into it with
him because he used he had Epstein had my buddy
had to return the twenty five thousand dollars retainer back
to his estate. He's also worked with Maxwell down in
Florida now, and uh, I don't get too much into
it with him. He's my my college roommate when I
went to school up up in New Hampshire, Okay. And

(03:49):
this guy's been at this whole while. He handles a
lot of heavy hitters, okay, heavy hitters. And what he
does is he he had all the top Proud Boys,
by the way, all of them off the bottom of me, guys.
And what he does is the falling. Once you get convicted,
he takes over and get you into a soft landing
if possible. Okay. So when I asked him, I've known

(04:12):
this guy for a long long time, he looked at me,
he said, so what's up, and he said, he killed himself, period,
end the story. Didn't even blink, didn't hesitate, that was it.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Give him any elaboration, did he give any explanation or
did he just say that and that's it.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
That's all he could say to me. And I didn't
want to know anymore. He didn't even have Jeff. He
didn't hesitate. You knew, you know. When he said it,
he said, okay, that's it. He deals with these people
all the time. He also dealt with the with the
college people, you know, the ones all in California, had
all those people too. This guy has done a lot
of work for a lot of heavy hitters. Could be mafia,

(04:56):
could be everybody. But Epstein was his client. It's Andy Maxwell.
He had been in touch with her for a while.
She's done of Florida. And that was it. That was
just nothing else.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
So Rob, I take it you believe your friend. You
think he did kill himself.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Absolutely, this guy's solid. I've known this guy probably I'm
sixty nine, so I've known him since eighteen since I
was eighteen. Now, Rob, I've been in touch with them.
I've been in touch with them too all the.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Time, me just to play Devil's advocate. What about the
cameras not working conveniently, the cellmate being removed from his
cell that very evening, which goes against all procedure. The
two security guards falling asleep and not doing their routine
checkup every half hour. I mean, I could go on

(05:48):
and on, the forensic pathologist saying the brakes in his
neck are inconsistent with hanging, could only be from strangulation.
What say you to all of that?

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Don't know unless I wish I could read the report,
But a lot of these people who knows what they're
talking about? The guy Boden there, whatever his name is.
The pathologists don't tell me he's never been wrong before.
I don't know. I don't I don't want to slay
that game because I'm not an extra to All I
know is what a very close friend of mine said.
He killed himself. Period, end of story.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Interesting, really interesting, Rob, as always, thank you very much
for that call. Do I have time to go to
Heather in Rockland? No? Okay, Heather, hang on all right.
I want to ask all of you. You just heard
it from Rob. He's saying, look, say what you want,
Bengino and cash bitteller telling the truth. You may not

(06:45):
want to hear it, you may not like it. Six
one seven two six, six sixty eight sixty eight is
the number. I just want to read very quickly. We're
going to go to Heather obviously in Rockland. But Eric
makes a really again in a really good point, very
interesting and I think very true. Jeff, I don't buy

(07:06):
the bit from the lawyer. If the guy is representing
Julane Maxwell currently he is going to go along with
the narrative of Epstein's suicide because he cannot jeopardize his client.
That's an interesting point. And then Eric goes on to
say Jeff Epstein had too much of an ego to

(07:31):
ever kill himself. Period. That's again, that's that is true.
I mean he was he was a billionaire who got
his billions from blackmailing the most powerful people in the world,
and he considered himself and he openly said this, he's
one of the masters of the universe. He thought he

(07:53):
was untouchable. He thought everybody had to bend the knee
to him. He had the royal family in his back pocket.
He had ties to Masad. He clearly had ties to
the CIA. Many in Congress believe, and I know Comer
is convinced of this. James Comer, the House Oversight Chairman,

(08:14):
that Epstein in many ways was working with the CIA
and potentially Masad to blackmail people the government. Our government
wanted blackmailed and to use that over them so they
could control them. So Epstein had very He had powerful enemies, obviously,

(08:36):
but he also had very powerful friends. And he thought
he walked on water. Look just I mean, I don't
have time now because the lines are jammed, and I
really want to go to the phones. When he is
released from prison. And remember, he pled guilty years ago
to having sex with an underrate, for soliciting sex with

(09:00):
an underage miner. It was a girl, a prostitute, underage,
So everybody knew that he was a pedophile. Everybody knew
he went after underage girls. He pled guilty to it.
That's why he served time in prison. He comes back
to his big mansion in New York and it was
a who's who of the media. The names there, I mean,

(09:26):
it's the most powerful names. In the entire media Democrat
media complex, and they threw him one hell of a
welcome home party. It was the mother of all bashes.
They were there to kiss his ring. And it wasn't
just because he had a lot of money. And it's

(09:46):
not just because he got them free tickets to the
met It's because he had a lot of them on tape.
He owned them, and he was blackmailing them and he
was controlling them. So a guy like that, an ego
like his, that he would just you know, put a

(10:07):
bed sheet around his neck, even if he could, you know,
physically do it and kill himself that way. I don't
believe it. I don't believe it. I just don't. And
then you add to the fact that he's literally paying
seal mates to stay with him and to watch over him.
He's you know, he's giving you know, he's he's shelling

(10:28):
out big chunks of cash, and he's telling everybody, if
I die, it's not a suicide. This doesn't look to
me like a guy who's suicidal. But again that's me.
Heather in Rockland. Thanks for holding Heather, and welcome.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Jeffrey.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Thank you for taking my call.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
My pleasure head.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
I am on I with some of your out of
call is like Larry and Barba my one of my two,
those are my two favorite calls. By the way, I'm
on this what they believe. I think this is a strategy.
I really wish that they didn't do that interview. I
really wish they just was like, not do that interview

(11:12):
because I think it would have been better if we
just kept thinking and then they not done the interview
and that have been that. I think this is a strategy.
I think we need to give them more time. I
think it's still not enough time.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
And I think that.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
By giving them more time, I think they I just
I feel like it's it's coming from Trump, and I
think that this is like a chess game, part of
the chess game that Trump's playing, and I think they're
going along with it. I can't imagine Dan Bongino.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
I mean, this is his.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Reputation, so I mean we got to, you know, think
about like even after he's done with the FBI, like
his future. I mean, he may he built a good
reputation in the media. I can't imagine that he would
tarnish it, you know, on purpose, so that I really,
I really think that we need to give them more time.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
The whole you know, the.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Administrator, and and see what plays out. But yeah, no,
I I don't think that that Epstein committed suicide. I
clearly think that he definitely was murdered. But I think
there's there's more to this going on than what meets
the eye. And I just really wish that they didn't
do that interview that other.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Let me let me play a cut, and I want
to get your reaction because you're saying I wish he
didn't do the interview. He then is asked by Maria
Bartiromo about the Trump assassination and the investigation into the
Trump assassination on you know, July thirteenth in Butler, Pennsylvania.

(12:56):
And listen to what Bongino now says, roll cut forty nine, Mic,
are we.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Going to be surprised? Is it what you learned?

Speaker 5 (13:08):
You know what, Maria Cash is not kidding. We've been
personally briefed extensively on every single detailed nugget tendril of
this case. One is actively in court right now, so
out of respect for the case, it's probably more appropriate
that I stay quiet on that. However, I'm not going

(13:29):
to tell people what they want to hear. I'm going
to tell you the truth, and whether whether you like
it or not is up to you. If there was
a big explosive there there right, given my history as
a Secret Service agent and my personal friendship as a director,
does with the president, give me one logical, sensible reason
we would not have if you can think of what
there isn't there? Isn't there in some of these cases

(13:52):
that there you're looking for is not there? And I
know people, I get it, I understand it's not there.
If it was there, we would have told you.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
So he's saying that there's no there there.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Now.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
The reason why he's going this far is they've now
announced publicly, like the Epstein investigation, they have ended and
closed the investigation into Thomas Crooks and his assassination attempt
on Trump, and they're exonerating the entire Secret Service. They're saying, no,
nobody worked with Crooks, nobody colluded with Crooks, nobody deliberately

(14:32):
turned the blind die regarding Crooks. That this was like
Lee Harvey Oswald, this was a lone gunman, and how
he managed to get this close. It was all literally
flukes and coincidences and luck and so again they're trying
to ram the loan gunman theory down our throat. Now,

(14:55):
I just want to read to you. This is the
response that came from one of Trump's former spokespeople, Liz Harrington,
and she slammed Bongino. She's very upset, and this is
what she said on X I'm sorry, the investigation into

(15:16):
July thirteen, the Butler assassination attempt is closed. Who were
you briefed by the people who came in, hosed down
the crime scene, cremated the body, stonewalled congressional investigators, and
lawyered up the family. There is a there there because
we know nothing about Thomas Crooks or who he was

(15:39):
talking to. If this is true, they need to come
out with everything they know about why and how a
twenty year old was able to pull that off. The
former FBI director just called for another hit on President Trump.
We must get serious about what is going on. So

(16:01):
she's basically saying, she's saying, it's bs that Bongino is
lying about what happened in Butler. Your reaction, Heather, Yeah,
I was.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
I did watch the interview.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
I I think that.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
I just think that there's more to this. I think, I.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Hope you're right six one seven two six six sixty
eight sixty eight if you want to be part of
the show. Okay, just super quick. So now they're telling
us that the official investigation into the assassination attempt on
Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania is closed, and that Thomas Crook's

(16:49):
the gunman, acted completely alone. And as they're putting it, now,
there's no there there Now. First of all, how do
you explain the FBI on the scene so quickly, literally
as Liz Harrington put it, hosing down the crime scene.

(17:11):
Within two hours, the whole crime scene was completely cleaned. Why?
Why that's unheard of? Why? Frankly, it's I mean, it's negligence.
I mean, you want to talk about abuse of power.
You're cleaning up a crime scene on the attempted assassination
of the leading presidential candidate and a former president. Okay,

(17:33):
that's number one, But let let that one go. How
does the twenty year old punk get on the roof
of a building four hundred and fifty feet away from
a former president and again the leading presidential candidate, and

(17:54):
and is spotted by numerous witnesses who are telling Secret
Service agents shooter on the roof, shooter on the roof,
and they let Trump get on the stage. Knowing all
of this, He's able to come in and take a

(18:17):
drone and fly over the entire field taking aerial footage
several hours before Trump gets on that stage, and nobody
saw anything. As I said earlier, you've got another Secret
Service agent, a sniper literally forty feet away from crooks

(18:40):
as he's bear crawling on the roof and the crowd
is saying shooter, shooter, shooter, and nothing happens. He parks
a car full of explosives right there near the rally, undetected.
Thing happens. And even after he spotted, even after he's detected,

(19:08):
even after the Secret Service is told repeatedly, shooter, shooter, shooter,
he gets eight shots off, not one, not two, He
got eight shots off. And on top of all of that,

(19:29):
and I could go on and on. I mean, I'm
just giving you that. I'm just skimming the surface here, Okay.
In terms of the breakdown the corruption, the to me,
there was clearly somebody complicit. There's no way this guy
is going to take a gun and just lead it.
The just stroll onto the roof and everyone's like shooter, shooter, shooter,

(19:52):
and I wow, aw ah.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
What.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Okay, the President's got to go on the stage, him
on the stage, and then notice nothing on his motivation? Nothing,
So what drove him? What was his ideology? Why was

(20:19):
he trying to kill the president? Who did he talk to?
Who did he communicate with? They're telling us nothing. It's
a complete blockout. What was his social what did he
say on social media? What was it they scrubbed his
social media? What was he saying on the internet. It's
as if nothing happened. It's like remember that that notorious

(20:41):
shooting in Las Vegas years ago and how many dozens
and dozens were massacred at a country music festival and
they just the FBI came in and they just swept
that thing right under the rug. Baby, the same thing
is happening now and they're peddling the same thing like
the Kennedy assassination. Lone gunmen don't ask too many questions,

(21:05):
So something's going on. It's two investigations that they're telling
us is closed and they're accepting the complete which is
an obvious BS narrative. It's a it's it's it's a
lie that the FBI and the deep state have been peddling.
And by the way, you have a federal government under Biden,

(21:29):
politicized FBI raiding Trump's home, guns drawn shoot to kill orders,
a bureaucracy held bent on getting rid of Donald Trump,
and all of a sudden, now they want us to
believe this fantasy. Hey just got a gun. He just

(21:53):
and by the way, identified by Secret Service an hour
before the shooting as being suspicious. They literally photographed him
and said he's suspicious, watch him, talk to him. Somebody
needs to interview him. And there's no there there. Let's

(22:15):
just move along. Nothing to see here. Oh, come on,
come on, come on, Dane in South Dakota. Thanks for
holding Dane and welcome.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Yes, Jeff, I'm a seventy I'm seventy two years old.
I was a black op with the CIA, the aras
you himself.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
This is incredible, like you said, black ops, CIA and
your voice it became like a computer, like you know
when you're you know, like when you're holding someone hostage
and you're calling him on the phone to ask for
a ransom. I mean, it's just anyway, Dane, let's see
if we can re establish a better connection. Dane. Are
you talking like a normal human being? Is Dane normal?

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Ah?

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Dan?

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Are you still like you're holding someone hostage?

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Dane?

Speaker 1 (23:04):
I promise we're going to come back to you. Okay,
you want to try the third time? All right, Dane.
Hopefully the third time is the charm good bone. All Right, Dane,
you're sounding much better.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Go ahead, Yes, Jeff, so like I was saying, I'm
seventy two years old. I was a black op for
the CIA field agent in Southeast Asia and then the
Golden Triangle in nineteen eighty. I know this world. Okay.
The Deep State slash CIA still has a license to
kill since nineteen forty seven, Jeff, the mafia had murder inc.

(23:39):
The CIA is a legal murder inc. They can kill
or threaten anyone they want in this world. They want
President Trump Okay, doesn't have a death wish. However, he
doesn't fear death. He only fears God. And that's why
the divine hand of God protects President than Trump. Okay.

(24:01):
He has now survived two planned assassinations attempt on his life. Okay,
you got to ask why, and that reason my priority
gave you is why there's a man out there I
want you to take this name. I hope you can
interview him. His name is James File. He wrote a book.
He's still living, primary target on the jfk assassination. He

(24:24):
shows you the two worlds of the CIA and the
mafia and how they work together. I was part of
that world too. I lived in Chicago, born and raised.
I knew the outfit. They called him the mafia in Chicago.
I also went to Southeast Asia with the ciag Okay,
I'm not like Bob who says I have a roommate

(24:45):
no names. I can tell you who the CIA agent was.
I didn't give you his name because now he's dead.
Steve Lentz. Okay, I went over there with him in
nineteen eighty.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
He showed me that real world.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
It was frightening. Okay. Another name, Bill Young. He was
sent over there to kill Bill Young. Now you could
look up Bill Young in the New York Times nineteen
seventy one. There's an article about Bill Young. So I'm
giving real names, real people. Both of them are dead,
so I give their names. The people that are still living,
I won't. But of course James Files, Okay, still living.

(25:15):
He's very sick. They want to give him a pardon
so he can testify in front of Congress. But they're
afraid to because she'll expose the CIA for who they are. Okay,
and I'm telling yourself, you can ask me, Jeff, any
question you want. I'll give you the true name.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Look let me because you've been a regular caller over
many years. You're to me one of the pillars of
Kooner Country. I'll never forget at one of our big rallies,
how you literally flew from South Dakota to show your support.
So I believe you not one hundred but one thousand percent. Dan,
I've got about a minute before Doctor Grace comes on

(25:52):
the air for her regular hit, So I've got to
ask you. Do you think Epstein was murdered or do
you think he committed suicide? And if he was murdered,
why are Cash Patel and Dan Bongino lying? What's your theory.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
He was murdered? It has the CIA prince all over
at the deep State. And I'll tell you why they can.
They won't go after Cash, betel or or or Bangino.
They will go after his family. That is their modus
of operation. Okay, they go after the family, the loved ones.
Just like you said, Jeff, you would, you would back

(26:29):
down if they went after your family. I'm a single man.
I've never been married, I have no kids. They can
come after me. I'm like President Trump. I don't fear death.
I fear God. But if they came through my door,
they would meet a hall of bullets trying to kill me.
I'd go down that way. I don't fear death, I
only fear God. And that is why he never ever

(26:50):
killed himself. He was I mean, he killed himself. You
never committed suicide. It's the biggest bunch of bs you
ever heard. And your and your wife has.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
A right on article.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
She's dead, dead on one thousand percent right as you say, Jeff.
So this is this world we live in. The only
thing that's saving us is divine hand of God. Those
who fear God stay alive, those who fear the government
go dead.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Well, you're right, Dan, You're absolutely right. Look again, thank
you for your service, and God bless you Dane. Okay,
And speaking of Grace, she's got an absolutely outstanding column
today emerging all of you. Please, you got to read it.
It's called Questions on Death of Epstein Remain. It's directly
related to the comments made by Cash Pattel and Dan Bongino.

(27:41):
You can read it on WRKO dot com slash coooner
kuh and as a national er, it's where all the
columns are. You just click right there and there it
is Grace Vuoto, doctor Grace putting liberals in their place,
full disclosure, my wonderful, my better half, my wonderful wife. Grace. Again,

(28:02):
congratulations on an outstanding column. I've got to ask you
right out of the gate, did Jeffrey Epstein commit suicide?
And why did Cash Patl and Dan Bongino? Why are
they saying he killed himself?

Speaker 6 (28:21):
Well, Jeff, I think that any amateur salute that looks
at the evidence will say he definitely did not commit suicide.
None of his behavior leading up to that night indicated
that he was going to commit suicide. And if you
look at FBI Director Cash Batl and Deputy FBI Director
Dan Bongino, their interview was supposed to be about restoring

(28:46):
the credibility of the FBI. That's what they were saying
during that interview. Our mission is to restore the credibility,
and yet they blew the credibility. They're not doing a
good job, and I'll tell you what Maria Bartiromo, all
she needed to do was follow up with more questions

(29:07):
because it looks like Patel and Dan Bongino haven't done
anything on the case. Look at the statements that they
made in the interview. Patel simply said, I know, you know,
based on my years of experience, this was a suicide.
So he's going on his credentials. That's a red flag

(29:27):
to be talk to me about the details of the case.
And then Bungino's statement, I have seen the whole file.
He killed himself. That's it. My reaction was, that's it.
One is going on credentials, the other is going on
I read the file. That's it. You guys are there
to investigate, and Maria Bartomo should have just followed up

(29:51):
with a ton of questions. Well, excuse me. Let me
ask you this. The brother did an experiment with the
bed sheet. He purchased the same bet sheet and he
tried to see if it would hold the bet sheet tour.
Did you guys conduct a similar experiment? Number two, did
you guys interview once again all the cell mates on
the floor. Did you guys speak to the psychologist who

(30:15):
said he was not suicidal, because then he was taken
off of suicide Watch. Did anybody interview the cell mates
who received the money that Epstein gave them for protection?
If you look at Epstein's behavior before that night, he
was trying frantically to save his life. So this, first
of all, you don't even have the mindset of a
man that's going to commit suicide. Why was he even

(30:37):
put on suicide watch to begin with? Then why was
he taken off suicide watch? So it doesn't look like
Maria Barter Romo asked any of the specific questions, nor
do they have any information on what they have done
since they got into those roles.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Grace, what about And you know this almost better than anybody,
because you've been researching this. Conveniently, the cameras right on
his cell and suddenly they don't they malfunction, Suddenly they
don't work. The two security guards that were there to
watch his cell in particular, specifically every half an hour,

(31:18):
keep making a check, and suddenly they both fell asleep,
both of them. The forensic pathologists and you quote them,
these experts saying, there's no way in hell that you
look at the bones that were broken inside his neck.
There is no way that this could be done from
a hanging. This had all of the traits of a

(31:40):
strangulation that he was murdered. So the forensics, the coincidences,
it's almost mathematically impossible that he killed himself. Am I wrong?

Speaker 6 (31:56):
Get right? And then how many events had to go
that way? How many things had to quote unquote go wrong?
So he was taken off suicide watch, but then a
cellmate was required to be with him that night. Shazam.
No cell mate that night, Shazam. The guards don't do
their stated procedure, the cameras don't work. And then guess what.

(32:19):
One of the questions that family members are asking is, well,
what about the pictures of him at the moment that
he's dead? Do we have that? No, they didn't follow
the procedures that jail would follow. If somebody is found
dead in the cell, it's supposed to be treated as
a crime scene, and they wasn't treated at the crime scene.
So you're telling me that this is one of the
highest profile cases in the world, and you know in

(32:42):
our nation and the moment he's found dead, they don't
take pictures. There are just too many things that warn't
done that are standard procedure that raise a lot of
red flags. And Patel at Bongino should be asking these questions,
even better questions than I can ask, because there's the
so called professionals and they're not. They obviously didn't do

(33:03):
their work. To me, they look like, you know the
way I catch Ava Ava? Did you just work out?

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (33:08):
I did? Okay, what'd you do?

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (33:11):
There's no specifics, you know, did you did you lift weights?
Did you run? What did you do?

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (33:17):
Sorry, I saw you the truth. I just sang the
whole time. You know, this is how I feel. This
is where are the specifics? Basically, they haven't done anything.
And you've got to think about this. To all of
those who are saying there's some kind of a master's strategy,
there isn't. Because the very interview was supposed to be
about setting a new tone and having all of us

(33:38):
trust the FBI again. And if they truly had an
ongoing investigation, they would have told us this is what
we've done so far, and you know we're looking into it,
or we can't comment on an ongoing investigation. That's usually
what the FBI does. They only say it's closed when
it's actually closed. So I don't buy this, you know

(33:59):
latitude that people are trying to.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Give them grace.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
So why then let's just take it all the way
to the end. Now, Why would Cash Patel, why would
Dan Bongino? Why would they spew parrot the FBI deep
state line, and why would they lie so brazenly like this?

Speaker 6 (34:21):
Well, look, Jeff, you've got one of the victims, Virginia Guffrey,
who ends up so called committing suicide. Her father doesn't
believe it. Another Epstein victim, Carolyn Andriano, she's so so
called doc have an accidental overdose. The mother doesn't believe it.
So now we've got multiple suicides so called of everybody
involved in this, and Bongino and Patel aren't even telling us.

(34:44):
Oh you know what, Okay, let's just say for just one,
for argument's sake, it was a suicide. But we are
pursuing everybody we know in those videos that was involved
in the pedrophile ring, everybody we know in the documents
that was involved. We're looking into all of them. No, nothing, zero.
They just want to put the kabash on it. And
the question that you're asking is the key question, why

(35:06):
are they putting the kabash on it? To me, my
front guess is they're being threatened and they're just caving
to the threats. It's just too scary. I think all
three of them are under threat, under severe threat, Patel,
Bongino and Bondi. And if you look at the difference
between those who are really effective in the Trump administration,

(35:27):
like Holman. Holman, you can just take one look at him.
There's nothing you can say to this guy that is
going to stop him from doing his job. There is
no threat on earth that is going to stop him,
just like Donald Trump. That's what people who can't be
threatened and bullied look like. These three they don't.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Look like that, Grace. So let your final paragraph you say,
maybe it's time for Patel and Bongino to resign. If
they are being threatened, if they've caved a capitulated to
the pressure, then they should do the honorable thing, step
down and make way for somebody a pit bull, not

(36:08):
a media poodle, but a pitbull who will not be intimidated,
who will not be threatened, who will not back down.
Is that what you want to see happen?

Speaker 6 (36:18):
That's what I want to see that's just basic honesty. Listen,
I'm an analyst. I'm telling you what's going on. But
I couldn't do that job. And knowing that I couldn't
do their job, I would not put myself in that position.
Very few people can do what I'm asking them to do.
But just be honest. If it's not you, get out
of the way.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Do you think I could do the job?

Speaker 6 (36:42):
You're really tough, jeff Yes see.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
I don't think I could do the job.

Speaker 6 (36:48):
I believe in you, jeff.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Na have you and the kids. That's my achilles heel,
and they would use that against me. You know what
I'm saying. But anyway, okay, but let that go.

Speaker 6 (36:57):
The point is this, we all have to assess, honestly,
when we're asked such a key and patriotic position, can
we resist all the pressures, all the temptations, all the fears,
all the terror that will go with that position. I
would immediately say it's not going to be me, not
at this time in my life. I would just say
the truth. And I think it's up to them to

(37:18):
do that so that they can make way for somebody
like a Tom Holman, who we know is the Iron Man.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
We've got about a minute left. Let me be just
play Devil's advocate for a second. What if this is
the best that Trump can do, when what I mean
by that is Okay, I've got Homan, but not everybody's Homan,
not everybody's me. You know, you mentioned that these are
two that just can't be threatened, can't be intimidated, and
they're just knock going to back down. You know, these

(37:48):
are not you know, they're not a dime a dozen
as you put it. These are very rare people. And
I need people that I know. I need people that
I can trust. I need people who are loyal. So
the pool that I can pay from is limited. And
for all their flaws, this is the best that I
can get as ag as the FBI director and as

(38:09):
the deputy thirty seconds, what say you, Jeff?

Speaker 6 (38:13):
This is the United States of America. This is not
the best. Trump vowed to win and win on all fronts.
And we have the toughest of the toughest people out there.
This is the country that is a superpower, that has
one World wars, that has dominated the globe. We've got
a ton of people who are iron tough, like Holman
and they're the ones that need to be appointed to

(38:34):
these positions.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Doctor Grace, putting liberals in their place. Grace Voto
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