Is Trump the Peace President?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jeff Kohner Boston's bulldozer six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay, listen now
to Prime Minister Benjamin netting Yahu, and he now says, Okay,
you didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize, but we're now

(00:22):
going to offer you the most prestigious prize in Israel.
And it's never been won by a non Jew before,
but you will be the first non Jew to win
this prestigious Israeli prize. Roll cut one hundred and five a.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Mic, mister President, thank you for all you have done
for us. I've submitted your nomination to be the first
none Israeli recipient of the Israel Prize, Israel's highest award.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
As to that other prize, just a question of time,
you'll get it. But I want you to get the
Israel Prize, our highest award to our greatest friend.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Meaning the Nobel Peace Prize. In other words, we want
you to get the Israel Prize. You know what, In
a way, he's kind of saying, wink, wink, it's kind
of good you didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize because
we want to give you the Israel Prize first then
you'll get the Nobel Peace Prize. Okay. So I mean

(01:41):
there's a lot of love there. I mean, and it's
just to show how much they love him. It's the
Labor Party, it's the Liquid Party. It's coming from the left,
the center, the right, it's all across the entire political
spectrum in Israel. Truly love Donald Trump, and the families

(02:03):
of the hostages in particular cannot thank him enough. So
I want to ask all of you, and I think
this is one of the most important pole questions frankly,
we have ever ever done, and I'd love to get
as much participation from the audience as possible. Trump, It's historic,
no matter what. It's historic. The ceasefire is historic, the

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deal is historic, The hostage is coming home is historic,
at least for now. The war ending is historic. But
now this is the key question, Okay, The Kooner Country
Pole Question of the Day sponsored by Marios Marios Quality roofing,
siding and windows. Will the Israel Hamas Peace Deal survive

(02:56):
after President Trump leaves office? In other words, what he's
got three more years left in his term? Or Bullpark
three years? What is it? Three years? In a couple months?
So basically, will it survive? To'll say, I don't know
January twenty twenty nine, when a new president, which I
hope will be Jadvance, will be sworn in. Pretty much,

(03:20):
I think most people say, with Trump in office, with
his force of personality, with his leadership, with his connections
to all the key players in the Middle East, they figure, yeah,
it'll last for three years. He'll if anybody can make
it happen, he'll make it happen. But after Trump, does

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the piece deal survive? In your view? A?

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Yes, B.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Know, as things stand right now, this is a very
cynical cooner country. This morning. Twenty seven percent of you
say yes, sixty three percent of you say yet no,
So almost two thirds, almost two thirds of you don't

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believe this is going to be an actually durable, permanent piece.
Interesting anyway, I want to ask you, will the deal
survive after President Trump leaves office? Aes B no. You
can vote on our web page wrko dot com slash
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seven two sixty six sixty eight sixty eight Caroline in

(05:02):
New Hampshire. Thanks for holding Caroline, and.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
Welcome for taking my call, Jeff. In terms of Israel,
I just had a few questions. I am very much
backing President Trump as always still in many of the
things that he does, but I just have some questions.

(05:25):
I'm always one of those people that I'm always looking
things up and wondering what's going on on my own,
because that's the way you have to think. I don't
take anybody else's word anymore. And I do know that
the UN voted to stop this war at least five
or six times, and the only vote that said no
was the United States, and that's on the Biden administration

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and the US administry, I mean Trump. The second thing
is since October seventh, twenty twenty three. So I'm always
nervous when I call. We've given twenty one point seven
billion dollars to Israel to fight this war. Twenty one

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point seven billion dollars. That's a lot of money, and
that money has been spent on weapons, which goes back
to the Americans, which really the people that are dancing
that are happy that this war may be over, but
has been spent with that much money are the defense
contractors in Reston, Virginia, because they've made a lot of

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money off of the weapons. And in the meantime, I
will say I know of someone who was in contact
with somebody in Palestine and they're not There's no one
left in gazap practically. I mean these people, some of
those people, I've read articles where they've gone back to
the First Church of Christ.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Caroline, can you do me a favor. You're raising some
extremely important issue. I'm up against the heartbreak. Okay, let's
go right back to Caroline in New Hampshire. Caroline, you
were making several points while asking several questions, and then
you were making the point that you know there's not
many Palestinians left in Gaza because of the bombing and

(07:19):
the missile strikes over the last two years. So and
then we didn't have a chance for you to complete
your points slash question, so please pick up where you
left off.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
Well, the other question is I found that Americans that
are fighting in the Israeli army are getting American military
benefits and I'm not quite sure why that is, but
that's a dual citizenship, which I have to do with
a little.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
It's just so much.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
I think that the point that I want to make,
though I asked a lot of questions, but I'm concerned.
So I don't know if this has made the news.
I actually don't have a TV anymore. I don't watch TV.
But there's something called Turtle Island and a lot of
people know about their children have internationally. And yes, Greta

(08:10):
Thornberg is part of this, and I'm not a big
fan of hers at all, but these are young people
who have gone to Palestine and they wanted to feed
the children. I mean, I'm sorry the people of Palestine
and whatever, whether you are against it or for it,
Israel took kidnap them from international waters. I mean, I

(08:31):
don't know if you know about this, if you can
elaborate more, but they are in prisons in Israel. Is
it possible, if this is true, to police get this
as part of the plans to get to free them.
That's all I'm asking because there's a lot of crazy
stuff going on here and questionable things. But if Americans
are in those jails, can they be released as well.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
How's that, well, Caroline, Look a couple of points. You
make some very very interesting points in some very interesting questions. Look,
to me, this is the way. It's not. Let's leave
Israel and Palestine out of it because it's a very
emotional topic. People get supercharged over the issue any war.
Let's just take Russia and Ukraine. If you're gonna send

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an AID flotilla or an AID convoy and go in
the middle of a war zone, you're asking for trouble.
Your instincts may be noble, your instincts may be good
and charitable, but the fact of the matter is, to me,
if you're going into a war zone where both sides
are slaughtering each other, to me, I believe you're being

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irresponsible and reckless with your life. And frankly, I don't
think the government owes you any protection. And that's not
just inn a war. You know, I've said this for
many years. You have Americans who go to North Korea
and then they're shocked that they get kidnapped, or they
go to Iran and they're shocked at they're kidnapped. Well,

(10:02):
I'm sorry, but you know, you know what you know
the risks that that are that are entailed when you
go to places like North Korea or Iran. So they
hate Americans, they hate Westerners. They are brutal, authoritarian police states.
You're gonna chances are you're gonna get kidnapped. So what

(10:24):
I'm saying is I'm not defending what Israel did or
didn't do. What I'm saying is, look, bombs are flying,
missiles are flying, bullets are flying. You know, Israeli troops
are being killed, Hamas is being killed, Civilians are being killed.
And what You're just gonna show up in an AID
flotilla and everybody's gonna say, Okay, we're gonna stop fighting.

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Like what I'm saying is the world doesn't revolve around them.
So you take a real chance when you do something
like that, and I think you're playing with your life.
I think you're playing with the lives of the people
around you. And I don't think that the government owes you.
If you're a tourist in France and you've been with

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you know, held or imprisoned on fake charges or something like,
that's something different, you know, or like the hostage crisis
we had under Iran in nineteen seventy nine where they
storm our embassy, which is supposed to be sovereign territory
and then seize our hostages. That to me was an
act of war. Frankly, it was a criminal act. But

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now forty some years later, well, you know what the
Molas are, you know what Irana is, you know how
they treat Americans and Westerners. You go, I'm sorry, man,
you know the chances don't come crying on us now
that you're in a prison or in some dungeon. So
that's why I don't have sympathy for people like that.

(11:53):
I'm being honest with you, Caroline. Now, as for the
people of Gaza, I feel very bad for them. I
truly do feel very bad for them. And one of
the things why so many Palestinians are cheering, and you
can read their newspapers, you can get their official statements,
you can just see the images, is because now humanitarian

(12:15):
aid is pouring in finally, because now the fighting is
stopped at least for now, and so the children are
being fed, thank god, medical assistance is coming in. Hopefully
they'll start rebuilding their homes, their apartment buildings, their communities.
But look, I think what needs to be said from

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a Christian point of view, and I am a Christian.
In fact, I am very devout Catholic. I'm a very
devout Christian. I've met countless Palestinian Christians. This is what
they've told me. They're not fans of Israel. They're not.
They don't like the occupation. They don't like what they

(12:56):
call the occupation. They don't like the Israeli government. They
don't like a lot of the policies of the Israelis
versus the Palestinians. They don't. But the point they wanted
to get to me was they go, we live under Hamas.
Since two thousand and eight, We've been living under Hamas.
No one has been worse to the Palestinian Christians than

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the Islamic Hamas. The Islamists under Hamas have destroyed churches,
have murdered Christians, have desecrated the Holy Land. The number
one enemy of Palestinian Christians has been Muslim Palestinians. They

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don't just want a judin frey Palestine, jew free, they
want a Christian free Palestine. So many Christian Palestinians have
either been murdered or expect held. And so look, I've
said this publicly many times, the land that Jesus walked on,

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the holy sites that are holy to Christians. I would
much rather have under the control of Israel, which is
a pro Western power, a pro Western government. It is
part of Western civilization, than I would under these Islamis savages. Now,
if you're gonna have the UN run the place, if

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you're going to have an international peacekeeping stabilization force, if
the world is going to be there and can protect
the sites of the Holy Land, that's maybe a different story. Okay,
then I'm open to a negotiation. But anywhere in the
Muslim world, the Christians of Iraq are being literally annihilated.

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As I speak to you. They go back to the
time of Christ. It's one of the most ancient communities
Christian communities in the world. They literally still speak Aramaic,
the language of Jesus. The ancient Christian communities of Syria
again they speak Aramaic, are literally being annihilated. Their houses

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are being torched, and they're being shot and massacred by
this new Islamist al Qaeda government in Syria. So what
I'm saying is throughout the Middle East, the Christians are
being exterminated. In fact, to the point. Most people don't
know this, but within about the next five years. And

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this is something I really want to bring up with
President Trump because to me, this is desperate, it's getting
to the point now, it's critical, it's it's you know,
it's it's deaf con one. The Christians of the Middle
East will be no more. In other words, there will
not be a single Christian left in the Middle East. Now.

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Christians have been in the Middle East since the time
of Jesus. They're gonna be literally expunged and wiped out.
Who speaks for them, who champions them, who defends them,
who protects them, who arms them, and yet their voices

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are silenced. The world doesn't focus on them. And so
I'm hoping that Trump will come to their cause, because
someone needs to come to their cause. Look, if the
Palestinians are smart, be Columbus day, everybody. Six one seven two,
six sixty eight sixty eight. Jeff Gouner, Boston's Bulldozer, cleaning

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up the liberal bull. Let's go to Gary in South Boston.
Thanks for holding Gary and welcome.

Speaker 6 (17:00):
Hey, Jeff, thanks for taking my call Columbus. They had
a couple of points, which is guys, I think that
the state of guys that should be the State of
Egypt and the State of Jordans and then they want
to be statehood. They can succeed for those two countries
if they if they can't make it on their own,

(17:20):
and then it will be a responsibility of those surrounding
countries to take on some of the peace that Trump's
trying to initiate over there. That's my basic thesis.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
You know, Gary, Look, I got to tell you it's
it's interesting you should say that because it's similar to
the Trump peace plan. Now he's not saying to Egypt
and Jordan, you know, gobble them up, like just take
them right. But you're going to see he's actually flying
now to Egypt and Yaho's with him, and the other

(17:53):
Arab leaders are going to be there. Egypt now is
coming out and saying, look, we're basically going to guarantee
the security of Gaza. We're gonna protect its borders. We're
gonna tell the Palestinians you don't need a military because
we will protect you. But the deal is Hamas has
to go. Hamas has to be completely disarmed, and they

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can have no power whatsoever. None, none, none, none, none,
and Jordan is going as well, and they're gonna say, look,
if you want an independent Palestinian state, we're going to
underwrite the security of the West Bank. And again no Hamas.

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You have to lay down your weapons. So you're not
gonna have a military. There won't be a Palestinian army,
or they'll be police obviously, but there won't be a
Palestinian army or a Palestinian air force or a Palestinian military.
You don't need it because we the Arabs, are going
to guarantee your security and your new borders dependent upon

(18:59):
you not attacking Israel anymore. It can't be a base
for Hamas or has Bellah or one of these other
Islamic terraorrist cells to just keep launching rockets into Israel. Now, Gary,
and I'll give you the final word, I promise, just
to show you how perceptive you are. Gary. People forget this, okay,

(19:20):
This is like people think it's ancient history. It's not.
In nineteen forty eight when Israel is founded. Remember there's
a war. There's a war that breaks out in nineteen
forty eight and the war was over historic Palestine. So
what the agreement that was reached by the international community

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was the land essentially east of the Jordan River that's
Palestinian or Arab, whatever you want to call it, and
the parts that are west are Israeli. So the Arabs
got a massive chunk of historic palaceine Israel got the

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other chunk of historic Palestine. And do you know which
country absorbed historic Palestine from the Arab side? Jordan? Jordan,
So and a little bit of Egypt, a little bit Egypt,
but it was primarily Jordan. So until the nineteen sixty

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seven war, for example, the West Bank Ramala that was
all under consent was considered part of Jordan. That was
considered Jordanian territory. So this idea that the Palestinians are
truly a unique independent people, that's only something that's arisen
in the last thirty forty years. They are culturally, religiously, ethnically, socially,

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they're Arabs. Nothing wrong with being an Arab. Arabs are
a great people and a great civilization. But I'm saying
is they're Arab. They're as Arab as the Jordanians are.
They're as Arab as the Egyptians are. They're Arabs. And
so what Trump is really saying is let the Arabs

(21:13):
take care of the Arabs, I e. Let the Jordanians
take care of the Palestinians. Let the Egyptians take care
of the Palestinians. And guys, you know, you deal with them,
you police them, you could, you know, you invest with them,
you do business with them, as long as they stop

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being a menace to the entire region and to the world.
And so in some ways we are returning back to
nineteen forty eight. It's like a full circle, Gary, final
word to you.

Speaker 6 (21:50):
They have a trady. Egypt has one treaty with Israel
as it is, so that's to make it much easier
for them to be a state of Egypt for a
while or as they want, until they could be around country.
And the same with Jordan's.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Oh you're dead on, Gary, You're absolutely dead on. And
Turkey now is on board. The Saudis are on board.
This is huge because they've got a lot of money
and Turkey has troops. So what I'm saying is it's
you're right, but you have Katar, you have the Kuwait,
the United Arab Emirates, you know, the Gulf Sheikhs. Syria

(22:23):
is now on board. Lebanon is on board. So what
Trump has done, and this was the point Netanyahu was making,
and frankly, the Arabs are making this point. They go,
you think we Arabs agree on anything amongst ourselves, never
mind agree with the Jews of Israel. He's got us

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all rowing in the same direction. Now that's now, Can
it last? That's a sixty four thousand dollars question? But Gary,
what he has done, it's never been thought possible. Literally,
it has never been thought possible, because he put all
the pieces in place for this to happen. Gary, thank

(23:08):
you very very much for that call. Six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight. A couple lines
are open if you want to jump on. Okay, just
very very quickly. There's some superb messages that I've gotten,
and you can always message the Kooner man now. And
they're both from a little bit slightly different directions again,

(23:32):
but they're both die hard members of Kooner Country. This
is from Larry in Arkansas. Jeff, let's not mince words.
President Trump's decisive strikes against the Iran's nuclear program was
like taking down the goliath of the Middle East. And

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Hamas said, oh, crap were I can't say the word
on the air. We're blanked, Okay, we're f't he broke Iran?
And when he broke Iran, when he hit four dough,
when he utterly annihilated and smashed their entire nuclear weapons

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program and just took the guts out of the Iranian military,
Hamas was finished because Hamas depended upon Iran and Katar.
Those were the two big backers. And Trump got separated
Katar from Hamas. And then he just smaghed, He broke

(24:39):
the spine of the Iranian Muller regime. And then Hamas
was finished. I mean, then the game was up. So Larry,
I agree with you, not one hundred but one thousand percent. Uh,
very quickly. This is from Marianne, and she's expressing I
would say the majority, maybe even the super major already sentiment,

(25:01):
certainly sixty percent plus if I'm going by the poll,
that were the pole of the day. And look, she's
a realist, and I never like to bet against a realist.
But here's what Marianne wrote, Jeff. In my personal opinion,
this peace deal is not going to last. Since when

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do we trust terrorists? You can't negotiate with terrorists. You
can't believe anything that terrorists say. It's not going to
last again, just my opinion, and I don't believe they
care whether or not Trump is in power. It's not
going to last. In other words, you cannot make peace

(25:50):
with a snake, you cannot make peace with Islamic extremists
and Islamic terrorists. So mary Anne doesn't even think it's
gonna last to three years plus a few months of
Trump's term. She thinks that it's gonna break down even sooner.

(26:11):
Interesting agree, disagree six one seven two six six sixty
eight sixty eight. Look, and since it's Columbus Day, and
Trump issued this proclamation that from now on it will
be Columbus Day again, going into the future, and the
left is going absolutely berserk. And you know me, I

(26:33):
believe in Columbus Day. I don't think it ever should
have been called Indigenous People's Day. Nothing wrong. I'm with
Mark in New Hampshire were called earlier. Really honestly, if
we want a separate day for Native American Indians, that's okay.
But Columbus Day should always have been and always should
be Columbus Day. And this is from Marick. He's a

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good friend of mine, and this is what he wrote
on a message to me, a personal message. Jeff Columbus
was no saint, but it was not his job to
be a saint. Now listen to these examples, because he's
so right. Neil Armstrong was no saint. Henry Ford, Alexander

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Graham Bell, George Washington, Martin Luther King, Junior Leif Ericsson,
they were no saints, but each is celebrated for their courage,
their fortitude, and their perseverance. It was not Columbus's intent
to destroy American indigenous civilization. Other conquerors chose to do

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that and did that, But Columbus was on a journey
to explore and open up trade routes. Blaming him for
those that came after him is like blaming your grandparents
for what you've done. It's ignorant and beyond whiggish. I agree.

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The only thing I would add Rick is and historians
agree on this unanimously. Over ninety percent of the Native
American Indians who died in the wake of Columbus discovering
the New World did not die from murder or conquest,

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or war or oppression or anything like that. Over ninety
percent of them died from disease measles small pole in
other words, diseases that were common in Europe they had
no immunity against, and that's what really decimated the Native

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American population. So even then, to say that the West
ushered inner europe ushered in a genocide is a complete lie.
It's a complete fabrication, completely completely. This is what Rick
wrote as well. Here's the Christopher Columbus, the only illegal

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immigrant the left ever hated. That's a that's a good one,
Rick six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight.
So let me throw this log on the fire. Do
you support Trump's proclamation reinstituting Columbus Day, having it celebrated

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as Columbus Day, and, as Trump put it, a great
day of celebration for Americans of Italian descent? Agree? Disagree?
Dave in Connecticut, Thanks for holding Dave, and welcome.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
Good morning, Jeff. How are you today?

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Very good? How are you?

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Dave?

Speaker 4 (30:05):
Not too bad for stars? I'd just like to say
that I am an American, Italian and Jewish all at
the same time.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
So Elizabeth Warren and Ivonna Presley can kiss my.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Boy. This is a Dave I mean, this is a
big day for you today, my friend.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
Anyway, what I wanted to say was is that if
you go, if Trump did not help out in this
and take care of this, eventually it would come back
to bite America in the rear end. There would be
a vacuum of and who knows who would have stilled that.

(30:52):
You know, at the end of World War Two, George
Marshall came up with the Marshall Plan and rebuilt Europe.
I guess on a small scale, you could say Trump
is doing the same thing.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Well, that's a very interesting point, Dave. I didn't look
at it from that angle that perspective. You're right, And
what Trump the point that Trump's really adamant about. He goes,
it's not going to be American money. In other words,
he got the Saudist to pitch in, the Kataris, to
pitch in, the Jordanians, the Egyptians. You know, the un

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massive reconstruction money is going to come from the United
from the Europeans. He's told the Europeans. No, no, you
guys keep going on about Palestine, Palestine, Palestine, Okay, pony up.
So the overwhelming majority, the overwhelming bulk of the investment
money that's going to pour into Gaza to rebuild it.

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It's going to be either Arab money, Middle East money,
European money, or un money. So it's not even our money,
which is to me very important, Dave. The other thing
is this, and I want to know if you agree
or disagree on this what Trump is now done. And
I understand they were using it as a pretext as

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an excuse, but still the war was raging. The longer
the war raged, the more radicalized in this country the
left became. How many protests, violent protests, riots, not just
on college campuses with them wearing the Kafia. Just in
downtown Boston, what was that last week they were firebombing

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cop cars, They sent police officers to the hospital as
these pro Hamas thugs basically took over downtown Boston with
their cafeas waiving the Palestinian flag. So what I'm saying is,
by at least ending the war for now, he's cut

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off all of this fuel, this oxygen that was this
radical left, anti Jewish, anti Semitic, anti American, anti Western
movement that was like a cancer not just on college

(33:15):
campuses but across our country. So in a sense, he's
now he's drying up some of the fuel that has
been driving the radical left. I mean, what they're gonna
wear their cafea is now you what are you protesting for?
The war is over. You wanted the war to end,

(33:38):
he handed it. You wanted a free Palestine. He's giving
you a free Palestine. You want all the prisoners back,
to all back, Like what else do you want? So
in a sense, yes, it's giving stability and peace in
the Middle East, but it's also going to give peace
and stability to some extent here. Am I wrong, Dave?

Speaker 4 (34:00):
I'd like to think so. I'd like to think that
you're you know that these people will pack it up
and go home. But from the ones that I know,
they'll just find something else to hate. They'll find another
way to hate Jewish people. That's just how it is,
plain and simple. You know, you can't make these people

(34:20):
change their minds.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
I'm just curious one of the effects of the war.
And I don't want to get too ahead of ourselves,
but you know they're celebrating like the war is over.
The Israelis are, the Palestinians are Trump. I can play
the cut again. I've played in my opening monologue where
he said, no, no, no, no, the war is over.
Do you understand the war is now over. We're now

(34:45):
turning a new page, a new chapter. This thing is over.
One of the things that we saw in the last
two years, Dave, in Europe, especially in Europe, in Great Britain,
but even here in the United States, is an absolute
explosion in anti Semitism, just a real hatred for Jews,

(35:09):
something I've never seen with my eyes in my lifetime.
Where you have American Jews saying, I don't wear miyamica
anymore in public, the skull cap. I will not wear
a Star of David a chain or on my neck
or a necklace or whatever, because I will be attacked.
I'll be assaulted, I'll be beaten. God knows what will

(35:31):
happen to me or my family. Do you feel that
this war, one of its ugly after effects and consequences,
was that it unleashed Jew hatred of the kind that
really we haven't seen since the nineteen thirties.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
I can tell you this much. I think the anti Semitism,
the basis of it, was always there. I think over
years it has grown, and I think this war just
let it rise, you know, to the top, and you know,

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give these people an excuse to go out in public
and really show their hatred or anti or their anti
Semitism and also right going hand in hand their hatred
for this country.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
You know, I agree with him. I think it's built
festering and festering, Dave, and festering, and this war kind
of like almost was like a catalyst and now just
sort of boiled over all that hatred that was there
for five years, ten years, growing over the last ten
fifteen years, especially after Obama. To me, there's no question

(36:54):
he was the instigator of all this. It just boiled
over Dave. As someone who's Ofjewish descent, are you do
you watch your back more? Are you more aware of
your surroundings? Are you afraid to let people know that
you're Jewish or have people identify you as you as
being Jewish? In other words, are you now more fearful

(37:18):
in public now than you were before the war?

Speaker 4 (37:24):
Audience? I've never worn you know whether the last time
I probably wore a yamaka was that one of my
children's by Mitzvah. I don't wear one in public. I
don't wear any jewelry that would say necklace, bracelet, whatever,
that I'm Jewish. I don't wear any jewelry at all.
And myself, regardless of the fact whether I'm Jewish, I

(37:48):
am always aware of my surroundings. That's just how I.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Am interesting interesting. So it has had in effect. I mean,
I know people have told me this, but you know,
I've heard many American Jews say, no, you know whatever.
Maybe I wasn't that, you know, I didn't display my
Jewishness so much, but now I'm very cognizant, and now

(38:11):
I just I never do it because it's just not
worth the risk. That's very telling. That shows you how
widespread the anti Semitism has become.