John Bolton Raided!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The home of John Bolton over Trump NSA. John Bolton,
one of his loudest critics, was rated on Friday. Was
this out of revenge for his attacks against President Trump?
Or is it delayed justice? I'm Sandy shack In for
Jeff Cooner here on the Kooner Reports. Six seven two
sixty six sixty eight sixty eight is the number here.

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The text number is seven zero four seven zero. The
raids Friday morning were of a national security investigation in
search of classified records. At least that is what the
FBI sources are saying. It was part and parcel of
a probe eyeing multiple instances of the use of classified

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documents in leaks to the news media, and the investigation
actually began during the Biden administration, but it did not
go that far before President Biden left office last January.
Then the FBI on Friday apparently it's continuing the investigation

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now and so they rated his home and then ten
FBI agents were also seen exiting his office on m
Street with a bunch of big, you know, big boxes
Friday afternoon. Now, Bolton's supporters are calling this retribution pure
and simple, but the FBI says it's conducting court authorized activity.

(01:36):
That's in a quote court authorized activity. That means that
a judge signed a search warrant for Bolton's residence in
Bethesda and for his offices as well. About half an hour,
about thirty minutes, and we watched this was happening during
the show on Friday, so we were kind of watching
it while we were discussing something else. But about a

(01:59):
half after the raids started, John Bolton tweeted about Russia
and it's worn on Ukraine. He wrote that Trump will
continue pushing for meetings on the conflict because Trump wants
a Nobel Peace Prize. But I don't see these talks
making any progress.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
So while that's happening while he's tweeting that, FBI Director
Cash Ptok tweeted, no one is above the law at
FBI agents on mission. This is at the same time
that his agents were raiding the house. Then Attorney General
Pam Bondi retweeted petl's tweet, writing America's safety isn't negotiable.

(02:39):
Justice will be pursued always. And then petl's deputy director
Dan Bongino, in his own post on x wrote, public
corruption will not be tolerated. Wow, what did we do
before social media? By the way, so we can get
all this stuff in real time as it's happening. I mean,

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it's it's it's quite amazing, amazing. According to the New
York Post, Patala is the one cash Ptel is the
one who's ordered the investigation into John Bolton. What does
this sound like to you? Is this retribution or is
this a necessary probe into a national security league? You know,

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That's that's the big question that's circulating right now now.
As recently as August thirteenth, Bolton was criticizing and lashing
out at the President for agreeing to host that meeting
with Putin in Alaska to talk about how to you know,
end Russia's war against Ukraine. And after he did, President

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Trump immediately responded to that. To that did Bolton statements
against the meeting, saying, very unfair media as at work
meeting with Putin, constantly quoting fired losers and really dumb
people like John Bolton, who just said that even though
the meeting is on American soil, Putin has already won.

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What's that all about? We are winning on everything. Then,
on the seventeenth, after Trump met with Putin. He wrote,
this war can be ended now, but stupid people like
Senator Chris Murphy, John Bolton and others make it much
harder to do. Huh Is this raid because Bolton was

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attacking Trump's efforts on Russia and Ukraine. You know, the
two have had this up and down relationship for many years.
It's if you know anything. I don't know how much
you know about John Bolton's past, but he's worked in
Republican administrations for most of his career. But the first

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time that people probably took notice of him was during
the George W. Bush administration, because Bush nominated Bolton to
be the US Ambassador to the UN, even though Bolton
had at one point argued that or I guess what
he said was if UN headquarters lost ten stories, it
would make a bit of difference. In other words, he
held them in very low esteem. But what ultimately sank

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that nomination was the opposition of Republicans like former Secretary
of State Colin Powell, and the fact that senators said
they had been misled by Bolton, who failed to disclose
that he was questions as part of the internal government
review of intelligence failures that led up to the Iraq War,

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and that's why people thought he was an inappropriate choice
for you an ambassador. He was also roundly criticized as
being basically a quintessential kiss up, kick down sort of guy.
In other words, he would say whatever he thought the
boss wanted to hear, but he was kind of abusive
to the people under underneath him. Then ultimately President Bush

(06:10):
put him in the role of temporary in the role
uh temporarily in with a recess appointment, but he didn't
stay for very long. Bolton stayed active in foreign policy
as a very loud critic of the Obama administration, in
particular with the deal with Russia to e sanctions on

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Iran in exchange for assurances that it wouldn't pursue the
nuclear weapons. Bolton wanted a more militaristic approach at the time.
He said so in that book that he wrote, the
first one. He was how Barack Obama is endangering our
national sovereignty, and he was pretty clear about how he
felt about everybody at that time. Trump later pulled out

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of that Iron deal, which you know, Bolton thoroughly uh
give a big thumb thoroughly supported, give a big thumbs
up to and Bolton did follow Trump into the first
administration and he was considered for a top role in
the State Department, but he was too hawkish and Rex Tillerson,

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who was the first Secretary of State in President Trump's
first administration, didn't like him, so he kind of got sidelined.
And then after President Trump had been through two other
national security advisors, he finally decided to give Bolton a chance.
But Bolton had to first promise that he wouldn't start
any wars. That's how, you know, militaristic he was. So

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that's basically the background of John Bolton's political career and
his history with Donald Donald Trump. But you know, President
Trump originally thought a lot of John Bolton, or at

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least enough to put him in a very instead of roll.
But you know, it didn't last very long. He was
his advisor from April twenty eighteen through I think September
twenty nineteenth, so you know, about a year and a half,
a little over a year, and then they had the
parting of the ways and this was announced by President

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Trump on Twitter on September ninth in twenty nineteen, he
basically posted that he had fired John Bolton. He said
I informed John Bolton last night that his services are
no longer needed at the White House. I disagreed strongly
with many of his suggestions, as did others, and therefore

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I asked John for his resignation, which was given to
me this morning, and so that's what President Trump posted.
Bolton disagreed with that, and in his own tweet, he
said he offered to resign the night before and the
President said they would talk about it tomorrow, but they
never did. He just read the tweet that said that

(09:03):
that he was fired. And people said they had gotten
into a big fight, which Bolton always denied, and I
don't think Trumps ever actually even addressed so.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
I don't know if that happened or not, if the
relationship got that contentious. The only thing that everyone in
that White House could agree upon was that Trump and
Bolton rarely saw i'd eye on the big global hotspots.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
The National Security.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Office held much more Hawkeets views than President Trump did
on things like Iran, North Korea, Afghanistan, you know, the
big trouble spots. And when you're NSA and you don't
agree on those things, I think there has to be
a parting of the way. But the first Trump administration, Trump,

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you know, does like people who disagree with him to
a certain extent, so he can hear the feedback. And
he did like the fact that President I mean that
John Bolton's presence seemed to spook foreign leaders. You know,
they would see him coming into the room and they go, oh,
are we in trouble now. So that was one of
the reasons why he kept him around. And you know,

(10:15):
he was taking off the right people. I guess according
to Trump, don't forget he was the subject. Bolton was
the subject of an alleged Iranian assassination attempt or plot
during the Biden administration because of the work he'd done
in the first Trump administration. But allegations from Bolton's twenty
twenty memoir, in which he roasted Trump's leadership and accused
the president of improperly using foreign policy, featured in the impeachments.

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It's one of the things that the Democrats hung their
head on. And so that's where serious, serious parting of
the ways was going on. And now in a book
that he wrote, he is he is referring to documents
and issues that appear to be covered by classified information

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Where have we heard that before? I'm Sandy Shack, sitting
in for Jeff Cooner. John Bolton, basically, an outspoken critic
of the president he used to work for, had his
home and office rated on Friday as part of an
investigation into misuse of classified documents. His memoir that was

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published in twenty twenty was used as a source material
for both attempts to impeach President Trump in his first term. Now,
Bolton was not ultimately a witness at that trial, and
he criticized the Democrats for too narrowly focusing on the
proceedings on the proceedings on the Ukraine phone call, rather

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than engaging in more wide ranging process to uncover when
Bolton viewed as Trump misdeeds, including Bolton's allegation that Trump
had asked China for help winning the twenty twenty presidential election.
There's never been any proof of any of that. But he,
you know, he wrote a work of fiction. He wrote

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his memoirs, and that's that's the book that the President
Trump in his first term tried to block but was
ultimately published after a judge had to get involved in
I think it was June's Spring of twenty twenty and
it had, you know, a full publicity blitz going on

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to it.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
But but you know, nobody's.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Ever taken the mainstream media never took a sharp, you know,
redacting pen to it to look at what the truth
of the matter in the book was, the truth of
the matter of the of the stuff that was in
the book, you know how accurate it was or whether
this is just flights of fantasy from John Bolton?

Speaker 2 (12:49):
I do not know.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
And President Trump, when he got back into the White
House for his second term, canceled Bolton's Secret Service protection,
which had been put in place because of that Iranian
jihad against him. Was that appropriate? Was that a good
thing to do? Cancel the Secret Service protection protection? Does

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that sound like tit for tat? I mean, he didn't
just cancel Boltons. There's a whole bunch of them, but
Bolton was on the list that got canceled. Or did
Bolton not deserve Secret Service protection to begin with? And
does that factor into whether you think that this week's
FBI raid was justifiable or is it revenge? Is he

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going after is the Trump administration going after people who.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Went after him?

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Basically, that's the question that I have for you Russ
in Boston. Welcome to WRKO.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
How are you Russ?

Speaker 3 (13:53):
You know, Shandy, I'm always good because I look at
life from a positive point of view. Every day matter
and I say this, my world is perfect. The world
around me sometimes is screwed up.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Okay, I think that's a healthy attitude. There esco right ahead.
Do you think do you think what's going on with
John Bolton? Is this retribution or is this justice?

Speaker 3 (14:18):
See it as justice because it appears that he has
violated the law. Okay, that's what it appears. And let's
face it, the love stream media and a democratic party
is the enemy within, always ending to deceive. They never
can be trusted anything that comes out of their mouth.
You always have to double checking and researchers to get

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the truth. And John Bolton there is a warm mango
who can never be trusted. And you know what gets
me about the wam manger, Sandy, h they shit other
people's blood are not their own.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, I've always that is.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
I've always felt that way about warmongers too. It's like
if they serve their country and they know what war
is and they've they've actually done it themselves. I'll listen
to them. I don't agree with them, but I'll listen
to them. But those who haven't really, you know, I
don't disagree with that at all. You know, making this

(15:15):
question Russ about whether this is about justice or retribution
is making it difficult, I think is the fact that
Jump Bolton is not exactly likable, or at least I
don't find him likable. And there is a certain sense
of what goes around comes around here, don't you think.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Absolutely?

Speaker 4 (15:33):
Sandy?

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Can I just just piggyback this and make a comment
in reference to the Vietnam War, Sure, Okay, I've never
said this in the radio before, Okay, but first of all,
the Vietnam War. The biggest mistake made there is US
fighting a land war because of the terrain monsoon, whether

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thick vegetation of Gito's swamps.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
You know, it was a.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Hard terrain to fight. Plus the enemy was more adapted
to that than we were. Okay, Now, that's why we
lost as many people as we did in Vietnam. That's
why I was protracted now instead of that, Okay, had
the Joint chiefs been honest with the president and actually
west Moreland went to the President's look, I cannot lead

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this because I don't want to lose a lot of
my men. The alternative is this, and this would have
been the alternative, And this is what I would have done, Okay.
I would have told the scumbag Russians in the in
the communist Chinese, both of them, to get their ships
out of the ports. We're gonna we're gonna mine all
the ports and not Vietnam. And and and I would

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have said to them, look, we're going to cut off
your supply line, because remember one thing, no army can
uprate and sustain without a supply line. That's what's most
important beyond the foot soldier. Now, the next thing I
would have done is in a way I would have
given them the wanting with this, but not directly. Okay.
The next thing I would have done is I would
have mined all their ports. In other words, I would

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have bombed every port, all the docks, everything else. The
next thing I would have done is a way to have
filled up a bunch of oil tankers. Okay, in south
of the Chinese border. I would have created a massive
forest fire for twenty miles south. And then after that
I would have port all kinds of defolians and everything else.

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And then I would tell the frigging Chinese that this
is a no man's own and you move any troops
of supplies, We're going to bomb the hell out of here.
And let me tell you, the Vietnam War could have
been won in six months. And I'll tell you one
other thing with the scumbag media, the reporting, the false
reporting of the tet offense, of the false reporting of

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Nixon bombing in Cambodia. Okay, you want to know something, Sandy.
We were victorious. You know what we were Victoria. We
kept the Communists at bay. Whether you served in country
in Vietnam, whether you served in the fare of operation,
or whether you served in Europe, we accomplished our mission
and that was to keep the Communists at bay. And

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that's what was never reported from the scumbags in the
media still today. And remember one thing they make us
out to be, you know, drug eas and baby killers
and also the nonsense. Okay, and then they make heroes
out of the ones who were against the war.

Speaker 6 (18:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
No, I think that's the way it used to be.
Russ I don't think they do that anymore. And to
your point, but I think a lot of people agree
that the way that the Vietnam War fought was fought
was not in the best interests of this country or
in the best interests of our serviceman. This is Sandy
Shack sitting in for Jeff Cooner on the Cooner Report.

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Bolton's home, John Bolton, former NSA John Bolton's home and
office were raided on Friday.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Was this payback or is this justified?

Speaker 1 (19:06):
In case you don't remember, just to remember exactly how
big a belief John Bolton has been to Donald Trump
three years ago. It was a very pompous John Bolton
that when it went on all of the networks to
celebrate the FBI raid on mar A Lago. The FBI

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rated mar Alago in twenty twenty two and seized, you know,
boxes of records from that estate. More than three dozen,
three dozen machine gun machine gun toting agents descended on
mar A Lago and afterwards a DOJ a Biden DOJ

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appointed a special council to investigate the documents that were
stored in the Florida. Never mind, by the way, that
President Biden also had documents stored in his garage next
to his corvette. But the court documents that have been
looked into regarding the mar A Lago raid, revealed that.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
The FBI.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Had authorized the use of deadly force during that raid
that was authorized by US Attorney General Merrick Garland, and
then FBI agents released staged photos of the classified documents
that were laid out on the floor of mar A Lago.
And John Bolton, during.

Speaker 7 (20:39):
The the live on the air coverage of all of this,
trashed President Trump on all of the networks after you know,
this was this is historical unpresident and nobody ever rated
a former president toumb before.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
And this was John Bolton on CNN Cut number one.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Please Mike.

Speaker 8 (21:02):
To speculate on motive other than that he liked cool things.
He saw things that he so he wanted to take
them that he was pretty much able to take them,
and not just on classified information matters, on all kinds
of things that crossed his desk. Some days he liked
to eat a lot of French fries. Some days he
took classified documents. He wanted them. Why did he want them?

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Because he could get them?

Speaker 1 (21:25):
That was the snotty John Bolton doing basically a play
by play for CNN regarding the raid on mar A
Lago and then he took to Twitter about it. Now,
the tweet that I find most interesting is that he
tweeted out a clip of President Trump, who is at

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a rally in North Carolina on this Is twenty sixteen,
and President Trump is on stage. He's saying, on political corruption,
We're going to restore honor to our government. In my administration,
I'm going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of
classified information. No one will be above the law in
regard to classified information. That's well, period, and that's what

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That's what President Trump said at is rally, and of
course he was elected in twenty sixteen. So Bolton tweeted
out that clip and underneath it he wrote, I agree
with President Trump basically that no one is above the law.
The GOP should adopt a rule that no one under
federal or state criminal indictment is eligible to be nominated
for potus. It's it's a very low bar that those

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aspiring to reach the highest office should have no trouble clearing.
So basically, he's tweeting out left and right, no one
is above the law, which kind of explains cash Patel's
tweet when the FBI rated hashtag you FBI agents at work.
No one is above the law. That is why I'm
assuming I can't get in Cash Batel's head, but I

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think that is why he he tweeted it, and I
agree with John Bolton and Cash Battel and President Trump.
No one is above the law. And on Friday, FBI
agents demonstrated that, you know, they were sent to Bolton's
home because he sent or allegedly sent highly sensitive classified

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materials to family members from a private, unsecured email server
while he was working at the White House during the
first Trump administration. This was a dormant probe. This this
had gone had gone silent under Biden. And why, my guess,

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is because John Bolton was attacking Trump and that's what
was advantageous to the Biden administration. But it's been reopened.
So now they're looking into Bolton's alleged use of the
private email to send classified national security documents to his
wife and daughter from his work desk before or his

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dismissal by Trump in September of twenty nineteen. Now, this
investigation began in twenty twenty when he used classified information
to write the book The Room Where It Happened. Now,
you know, it looks to me, like, if that's the
timeline that he was trying to get, he was sending
stuff to his wife and daughter to get stuff out
of there so that he could use it for his memoir.

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Now he hasn't been arrested or even charged with crimes yet,
so you know, I have no idea what's going to
happen with this, but I suspect that it's only a
matter of time. Is John Bolton getting the investigation he
deserves or is this payback? Ben in Stoton, Welcome to WRKO.

(24:46):
How are you, Ben, Ben Candy?

Speaker 5 (24:53):
You make my day?

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Oh okay, thank you.

Speaker 5 (24:57):
You're a light at the end of a tunnel.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Well, thank you, sir. So what do you think? Do
you think that this is a justifiable investigation or are
they just poking John Bolton because they can.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
It's semi justifiable. It's everybody's opening up, everybody's skeleton in
the closet. Everybody wants to have a metal. The news
media can't function unless they have something spectacular. And in
my ninety three years tells me it's just over and
over and over again, just like the scandal sheet Wack

(25:33):
in Boston back in nineteen fifty. You give Jerry Williams
a run for his money. I'll tell you that you
and he are pretty. When you will you talk, you
leave spaces between the words which make people understand stuff.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Now you know, Oh, thank you.

Speaker 9 (25:51):
Well.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
As a matter of fact, I worked with Jerry Williams.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
So see because I used to listen to him back
in nineteen forty nine.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Oh my gosh. I didn't work with him back then,
but I did work with him for a little bit
of time and when he was in Boston at the
end of his career.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
Oh wait, car came from there.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yes he did.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
Ye, yep, yep. Well, anyway, I don't want to tie
you up much, but he's a snake in the grass
and he's If it wasn't for his mustache, I don't
think he'd be anything.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Do you think his mustache is a claimed to him?

Speaker 10 (26:26):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (26:26):
The rumor is ben.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
That he that Trump did not like his mustache and
hired him despite it, basically because he thought that the
mustache was not the best look and he liked his
his administration to have a particular forceful look to it.
But you know, but he is big on on merit

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based hiring, so he put them he put the mustache
aside and thought that Bolton would be somebody who could
he could give and and pull and and would give him,
you know, the military side of the advice. But what
he discovered is that, according to President Trump, is that
he was too single minded. He wasn't open to discussion,

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and that was one of the reasons why he didn't
think he made a very good NSA. So, but do
you think that that does this look like payback to you, Ben,
or do you think this is something that is deserved
at this point in time.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
That's the way Trump operates there. He always has to
get somebody after they stab them on the back.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
He does seem to he does seem to be having
moments of I don't know what we would call it, really,
of basically calling people to account, I guess is the
way to put it. But when you look at what
has happened to him in the last four years, is
he justified in doing that?

Speaker 5 (27:55):
Yeah? I think he's like Clint Eastwood. He wants to
be up on the top there and everybody looking at him,
you know, that's our president.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Well, I agree, he is a showman, but I think
in this particular case, he doesn't have to look for
people to look at him. I think they do because
of the things he's accomplished so far in his second
administration are certainly noteworthy and in many cases historical. John
Bolton's home and office with the subject of an FBI

(28:24):
rate on Friday as part of an investigation into possible
misuse of classified documents. Now President Trump initially appeared to
be as surprised as anybody else that Bolton's home was
rated on Friday. Cut number eleven A please, Mike, I

(28:45):
don't want I.

Speaker 9 (28:45):
Tell Tam, and I tell the group.

Speaker 10 (28:47):
I don't want to know about just you have to
do what.

Speaker 9 (28:48):
You have to do.

Speaker 10 (28:49):
I don't want to know about it.

Speaker 9 (28:50):
It's not necessary.

Speaker 10 (28:51):
I could know about it.

Speaker 9 (28:52):
I could be the one starting, and I'm actually the
chief law enforcement officer. But I feel that it's better
this one.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
You think it's better that way.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Do you believe him that he didn't know about it.
I'm pretty sure that he's put that out there ahead
of time, saying, you know, you guys pursue these investigations,
but leave me out of it. And I think he
probably did that. So where he you know, he's a
brilliant man, so he has to know that they're going
to move forward when they find things, and he may

(29:22):
know when they find things, but I don't think he
knew about the rate ahead of time. But do you
believe him? Do you think he knew what BONDI was doing.
The number here is six one seven two, six sixty
eight sixty eight. He does not hold John Bolton in
high esteem. If you haven't noticed cut ten, please Mike.

Speaker 9 (29:44):
I've spoken to Pam and the group yet, but I
will be. I saw that just like everybody else. I
try and stay out of this stuff. I'm allowed to be,
and I'm chief law enforcement Office, I believe it or not.
You know, I don't like to go around saying that,
but I am. That's a position, but don't want to
really get involved in it. I'm not a fan of
John Bolton. I thought he was a sleeves bag actually,

(30:05):
and he's suffers major Trump derangement syndrome, but so to
a lot of people, and they're not being affected by
anything we do. I don't know anything about it. I
saw it just so that I'll find out about it.
But if you believe the news, which I do, I
guess his house was rated.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
John Bolton is a sleeves bag according to President Trump?

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Is he right?

Speaker 1 (30:31):
And do you given that that's how he holds? And
let's be honest. You know, President Trump is not afraid
to insult people or you know, call them pejorative names.
He does it, you know, all the time. He can
do it with his friends, and he can do it
next week with his enemies. Do you agree with him?
Is John Bolton a sleez bag? And does I give

(30:53):
you a clues to whether this was payback or justifiable?
He has not forgotten. President Trump has not forgotten about
the mar A Lago raid nor John Bolton's glee at it.
I am sure cut ten a.

Speaker 9 (31:10):
My house was raided, also called mar A Lago. They
went through everything they could, including my young son, Drew,
and my wife's area. They went through her draws, as
the expression goes. They went through everything you can imagine.
And when she came back, she looked. She said, she's
very neat, you know, she's meticulous. And she looked and

(31:31):
she said, whoa, this wasn't this wasn't the way that
she had it. So you know, so I know the
feeling is not a good feeling, thank you?

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Is that what this is all about. Is President Trump
still livid about the mar A Lago raid? Is that
rage justified? I think it is. To be honest with you,
I'd still be, you know, in a rage over it.
But is that the reason for the raid on Bolton's
home or do you think this was a justifiable FBI

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operation that President Trump knew nothing about. Eddie and Chelsea.
Welcome to w RKO. How are you, Eddie?

Speaker 10 (32:12):
Good morning seventy. I think the raid was justified on
the simple fact that John Bolton's security clearance was revoked
by the Chelsea Gabbett. Anybody with security clearance once revoked,
no matter what you have, whether it's opposed to note
that you are written down at a meeting, all those

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things need to be returned. And I don't believe John
Bolton ever did that. So in that since we can
say that it's completely justifiable. And now learning that there
was an investigation that begun under Biden that was stopped
makes it even more clear. Bolton, you have done something

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about to find out what is it that he did?

Speaker 1 (33:03):
So you think there are two issues? Then, One is
that he initially sent out classified information to his wife
and his daughter while he was still in the White House.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Just before he was fired.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
And two Ydes should not have done that's a misuse
of classified information. And two, he didn't return anything he
had after his clearance was revoked by Telsey Gabbard.

Speaker 10 (33:33):
Correct. And those two circumstances are enough to get any judge,
whether that judge is biased or not, that judge could
not turn away from approving those.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Raids, and they didn't.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
They issued the warrant for the raids and so forth. Interesting.
I don't disagree with you, Eddie. I had not thought
of the second one. I had not thought of when
his security clearance was revoked. I think that's that's brilliant
because I do believe that if he did what they

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said in the first case that on a private email server,
he was obviously using his wife and daughter to as
conduits to get to get emails out, and because it
was his wife and daughter, he trusted them. One and two,
nobody would think it's unusual to see emails going to

(34:35):
his wife and daughter from the White House, So I
think that's a big issue for him. I think if
he did that, then he is facing some serious charges
in regard to in regard to misuse of classified information,
but it had not occurred to me regarding Telsey Gabbard
revoking a security clearance. It's kind of like, you know,

(34:57):
how they got Capone during during Prohibition. They never got
him for running, for actual violating prohibition, or for killing anybody,
or for any of those misdeeds. What they got him
for was not reporting his ill gotten gains from his
criminal enterprises.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
They got him on tax evasion.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
That's actually one of the first cases you learn in
law school if you're taking taxation about, is the fact
that if you are a criminal, it is illegal to
not declare your illegally gotten gains. It's a very strange case,
it's a but it worked, and it certainly worked for
them to get component. And that's kind of the same

(35:41):
same rationale that you're mentioning now, Eddie, is that you know,
he may have taken these documents illegally and had them
illegally to begin with, but then he broke the law
second time when he didn't send them back. I think
that's genius, Eddie. Thank you, thank you, sir for the call.

(36:03):
I appreciate it very much. That's a very well thought out,
a very well thought out case against John Bolton. What
do you think? Do you think that the raid against
John Bolton was wash inspired by revenge retribution or do
you believe that John Bolton has broken the law and

(36:28):
deserves it the minimal an investigation into his actions and
that FBI raid? Mark from Medford, Welcome to w RKO.
How are you Mark?

Speaker 6 (36:38):
Good morning, Sandy. So the first thing I want to
say is that look what they did to Trump the
last eight years. It's not more okay. So I'm gonna
I'm gonna say that it's retribution and it's justifiable. Okay.
But you can't tell me for a minute that that
that they're all you know, bs and everybody act and

(36:59):
all the supplied. Oh, I can't believe they raided John
Bolpen's hope. Listen. Did they not see this coming? You
can't tell me for a minute that anyone in the
last eight years that was involved and trying to take
Trump down illegally, I might add, is not sitting in
their hole right now with the blind shut and peeking

(37:20):
out the blinds every half hour to see if there's
blue light splashing outside the house?

Speaker 11 (37:25):
Am I right around?

Speaker 5 (37:26):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (37:27):
I think there are a lot of people who are
very nervous, Mark, who are who are very concerned, who
thought that there would never be any any moment in
time where they would be accountable and are now very worried.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
I don't think you're wrong at all.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Mark. Oh no, no, I was waiting for you to
reply my apologies.

Speaker 6 (37:53):
Mark, Well, I mean you have to.

Speaker 11 (37:56):
You have to really think that they do see this coming.
I mean, after what they did to him for eight years.
I mean, if it was you, what did you think,
Oh crap, I'm next.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Well yeah, and they said that. Remember during the during
the campaign of one of Kamala Ayrris's supporters, one of
the platforms that she ran on, or one of the
prongs of the platforms she ran on, was you better
vote for me because you know he's going to go
after the Democrats if you don't after what we've done
to him.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Although she didn't put it that way, but.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
That's basically the Democrats were putting out there. You know,
he's going to be revengeful. Well, why would he be
revengeful if what happened to him was justifiable. If it wasn't,
then you gotta worry. So they were kind of shooting
themselves in the foot at that point in time, and
he was like, I don't know, And to be honest
with you, I don't know if this is vengeance or not.

(38:50):
Maybe we need to make that the pole question mark,
So why don't we do that? So this is going
to be the Kooner Country poll question that's brought to you,
brought to us by Marios Quality Roofing, siding and Windows,
and you can take it on X at the Coner
Report or at WRKO slash Cooner and it's going to

(39:11):
be was the raid on John Bolton's home and office
a retribution?

Speaker 2 (39:18):
B justified? C both? Was it both?

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Because I think you put your finger on it, Mark.
I tend to believe that it's both. I think it's
justified considering what he has done in regard to classified documents,
it's that's if that's true. If he did email them
out then to his wife and daughter in just before
he was and he knew he was getting canned, then yeah,

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there's a misuse of classified documents there. And some of
those documents did show up in his memoirs, So he
was doing what Biden, Joe Biden did it taking documents
in order to write a book. And then I think
our Eddie and Chelsea had a very good point about,
you know, into security clearance. Even if he could make
it argument that he could have those documents, once the

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security clearance was revoked, he had to give them back
and he didn't. So in the poll question, so I'm
assuming you're voting, You're you're going to vote both, Mark.

Speaker 6 (40:15):
Oh, definitely both one thousand percent.

Speaker 11 (40:18):
And I'm going to tell you one more things, Sandy
before I go. And I don't think I'm going out
on a limit here. I'm going to say, be prepared
because I think there's going to be a lot more raids.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Well, it's going to be entertaining television, depending on which
side of the aisle you sit on, Mark. So I
don't think you're wrong. Thank you so much for the call.
I appreciate it very much. When a caller drops off,
it means a line has opened up for you. The
number is six one seven two six six sixty eight
sixty eight six one seven two sixty six six eight

(40:50):
sixty eight. Vice President Vance was on Meet the Press
this weekend and he says that the FBI investigation into
John Bolton is bigger than just the misuse of classified documents.
Cut number seven, Please, Mike, is this about classified documents?

Speaker 12 (41:14):
We're going to I'll let the FBI speak to that.
Classified documents are certainly part of it. But I think
that there's a broad concern about Ambassador Bolton. They're going
to look into it, and like I said, if there's
no crime here, we're not going to prosecute it. If
there is a crime here, of course Ambassador Bolton will
get his day in court. That's how it should be.
But again, our focus here is on did he break
the law? Did he commit crimes against the American people?

(41:37):
If so, then he deserves to be prosecuted.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Well, I agree, if he committed crimes against the American people,
he does deserve to be prosecuted. But it's his term
broader concerns that makes me think broader concerns is misuse
of classified documents just the tip of the iceberg? Is
it just the beginning of something bigger?

Speaker 2 (41:58):
What do you think? In which case?

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Does this look more and more like justifiable rate as
opposed to retribution? What jd Vance said sounds fair and reasonable.
He also was denied straight out that this was retribution.
Cut number twenty. Please, Mike, you know a lot of

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people have already looked at this and said, this looks
a lot like retribution.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Is this retribution?

Speaker 12 (42:26):
Well, who has said it looks a lot like retribution?
Chris and a lot of people who tried to throw
Donald Trump in prison for completely faked charges that were
later thrown out by multiple different courts. I suspect that
if the media and the American people let this case
actually unfold, if they let the investigation unfold as it's
currently doing, they're going to find out that what we're

(42:46):
doing is being very deliberate and being very driven by
the national interest and by the law here, and that's
as it should.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Be, not retribution driven by the law. Does that sound
rational and reasonable to you? And do you think, given
what our poll question is, that this could be retribution
and justified at the same time, meaning they found something

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they needed to prosecute the misuse of classified documents. The
Democrats are the ones screaming about that.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
And then.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
This happens to be a little bit of payback for
his glee over mar A Lago, along with some of
the other things that he's been doing since he list
left office. Could it be all three? Could it be retribution, justification?
Could it be both both of those as opposed to
all three both of those? What do you think, Lisa
new Hampshire? Is this retribution justification or is this both?

Speaker 4 (43:49):
Hey, Sandy, how are you? Honey?

Speaker 5 (43:52):
Well?

Speaker 4 (43:54):
I have very mixed emotions about the whole thing because
if it's retribution, that means there's crimes that exist that
on another day we weren't willing to pursue. And if
it's legit, then why are we even having a conversation

(44:15):
about it? And it just proves how broken the system
is because at this point, yeah, it looks like retribution,
but you can't do that if there wasn't a crime committed.
And you know that this administration, under the microscope that
they're under, is not going to bring a case they

(44:35):
can't win, or at least that they can present a
case that they can win. And depending on where it's
brought in the judges and the juries in DC or whatever.
But it only shows how broken the system is because
we've watched some all commit crimes for years and it's

(44:55):
supposed to depend on who's in office if they get prosecuted. Law,
Do you understand my point? It's like, if you commit
a crime, you should automatically know you're going to get prosecuted,
and if somebody knows about the crime, then you're supposed
to get prosecuted.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Well, I guess the point is here at least, is
that John Bolton didn't think anybody knew about it. I mean,
he emailed his wife and his daughter that if he
was doing that on an unsecured server, was with secret
documents then classified documents, and that is a crime, which
we discovered when they went after President Trump, who actually

(45:34):
had the rights to have the document. The president's the
only one has the rights to have those documents, and
he because he's the one that can classify a non
classify documents. President Biden did it and was not held accountable.
President Trump did it and was held accountable. John Bolton
doesn't have a presidential immunity and did it, you know. Anyway,
that's what it looks like. Now. Now this investigation is

(45:57):
going to tell us he hasn't been charged with anything.
So right now it's just an investigation. So I think
when we say retribution, we're looking to see is just
the investigation retribution, not charges, but the investigation. There's a
difference between the two. Do you see what I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
Every single person who wrote the law should be arrested
in charge.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
I don't think anybody disagrees with that, Lisa, That's not
what I'm saying. What I'm saying is we're not to
that point yet. John Bolton has not been charged with
anything yet. We're at an investigation point. We're trying to
determine whether.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
He broke the law.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
It needs to be charged, So the question is whether
that investigation has merit or whether it's payback. That's what
the point is.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
I'm assuming that every single investigation may bling will have
merits because they're not going to do what the Democrats
did because they don't have to. They committed crimes. And
the thing that I think kind of worries me about
going after John Bolton first, which I think I understand
why So then when they go after the Democrats, they

(47:11):
can say, well, we've been after the Republican you know.
But I think that by doing it means that all
the ones that thought there was a possibility that they
wouldn't now like shredding all the evidence. So I don't know.
I was always fantasizing about my Godfather scene where they

(47:32):
went after all the bad ones at the same time,
not to give them heads up.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
That famous scene where they where they all get shot simultaneously,
basically as he as the Godfather heads off to heads
off to Nevada exactly.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
And I've been fantasizing about that for years, that they
go after every one of them with Candler's there, just
like they did to Roger Stone, and none of them
have a chance to give the other heads up. That's
the way I've done it. And yet we'd be lying
to ourselves if they weren't enjoying this.

Speaker 6 (48:11):
But his whole entire.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
All of his followers, every one of us, you, me,
and everybody included, we want them to pay for what
they did. And we only want them to pay if
they committed crimes, which they committed in front of our faces.
So can we call it retribution? Maybe? But what's right

(48:37):
is right. You can't go around doing what you've done
for the last ten years and get away with it,
because if they do, they will keep on doing it.
And this administration, to me, is probably the only administration
that will actually do something about it.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Well, I agree with you. This administration does not shrink
away from from from doing something just because it might
be unpopular or because it might be twisted by the media.
They they if they did, they wouldn't be able to
accomplish anything. So I think that they could be doing
what your fantasy godfather seen. We just don't know about it.

(49:19):
I mean, they're not doing it with the press necessarily.
They didn't invite the press to this one either until
till the raid had started. And I think all those
tweets that you saw from Cash Battalion, Dan Bongino, and
Pam Bondy that went out were are ways of alerting
the press without picking up the phone and calling the press.
But they could be doing other investigations too on the

(49:42):
side without telling people simultaneously. So it could be happening.
It's just not under the spotlight glare. So there's hope, Lisa,
that they your fantasy could come true.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
So because I think about it all the time, and
I just you know, my hot broke every single day
for him, and I knew that he was the cleanest, squeak,
hist clean person on the planet, because you know, they
vetted him from the day he even talked about becoming president,
right up until today, and they had to make stuff

(50:17):
up with this crew. You don't have to make it.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Yeah, you don't have to make You don't have to
make anything up. Sorry, we have to hold you there, Lisa,
because we're up against a heartbreak.