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August 29, 2025 • 38 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Sandy Shack. We've been talking about DEI and its
part in spreading anti Semitism in the US in the past,
you know, four or five years. Our text number is
seven zero four seven zero two o seven says Jews
have been have been oppressed for thousands of years. Are
you implying that this is me now? That was the

(00:22):
extent of the text. Are you implying that DEI has
nothing to do with what's happening now, Because my response
to you would be yes, that that is true. It's
also been fought for thousands of years. My point is
that in this country the level of anti Semitic incidents

(00:42):
have exploded at the same time that the Biden administration
codified and pushed DEI policies. Is that a coincidence? I
don't think that it is, but you know, maybe some
people do. A hate of the Jewish people is ancient,

(01:06):
without a doubt, and scholars who have who are much
smarter than I am, and who've spent much more time
on this than I have, have put it down to
a very simple statement, and that is that the Jewish
people brought morality to the world thousands of years ago,
and some people are still upset about that. It Could

(01:28):
it be that simple?

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Is it? You know?

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Is that what it's about is that they brought a
morality that did not exist before. Is it part and
parcel of you know, a bigger problem we're having now
regarding morality. We talked a little bit about this yesterday,
namely that morality is the enemy of communists, socialists, and

(01:54):
progressives and they have a need to tear it down
and tear down anything that can challenge their authority, like religion,
like the family structure, like anybody who stands up against them.
And maybe that's part and parcel of what's going on
here now. Besides Jews introducing moral and ethical precepts, they

(02:20):
also brought the world at large, you know, prohibitions on
behavior that people are mad about. You know, the deep
patred of Jews stems from usually fanatical followers of other
faith and maybe those who don't have any faith at all,
But especially it stems from zealots whose religious worldview compels

(02:42):
them to conquer and destroy other faiths or for you know,
horrible tendencies that they see in themselves but want to
put on other people. That seems to be a democrat
thing lately. I don't know if you've notice, but you know,
they accuse other people of what they themselves do, and

(03:04):
I think that might be part of the problem here
too with anti Semitism, But it does appear to me,
at least you don't have to agree that anti Semitism
gained a massive hold during the Biden administration during its
love affair with DEI, and it's passing off of DEI

(03:26):
is how you pay homage to the Biden administration. That's
what they did, and it didn't just happen in the
schools and on campuses. You know, there are others to
blame where DEI has become, I would say, a very
intolerant religion, like in Hollywood. You know, Hollywood became became

(03:50):
massive DEI acolytes, and it's starting as DEI is starting
to lose its luster with a lot of people because
they realize that what it's been promoting is intolerance instead
of tolerance. You're seeing that those who have followed DEI

(04:12):
are now not faring as well as they did before.
And that is very true in Hollywood. One of its
biggest turnarounds lately was the movie Snow White. I don't
know if you saw that. But one of the actors
in Snow White, an actress by the name of Gail Gadot,

(04:36):
who by the way, is Jewish, which is kind of ironic,
played the evil Queen in the Disney roommake, and she
says she felt the movie should have been a smash hit,
but the controversies over comments made by the film star
Rachel Ziegler really hit the movie with a lot of
bad publicity before it even got into the theaters. She says,

(04:59):
it all went pair shaped, and that happens in a
lot of various industries, including Hollywood, because there was pressure
on the celebrities to speak against Israel. Again. I put
that back to the promotion of Dei and Rachel Ziegler
start as Snow White, and she spent months ripping Israel

(05:19):
as a presser's and she even claimed the country was
committing genocide against the Palestinians, never mind that it was
the Israelis who were the victims on October seventh. They
were the ones who were supposed to be committing genocide
against the Palestinians. And during one interview she said free
Palestine while she was trying to promote Snow White and
her support for Hamas terrorists was not an only problem.

(05:41):
She had to apologize for wishing harm to befall supporters
and voters of Donald Trump. She more or less told
half the country she did not want them to come
see the movie, and she before her apology, she'd wish
that Trump voters never know. Peace and snow White fell
to new Low's it's a record holder now and money

(06:02):
lost and in bad movies. So that's the case of
Hollywood learning that going woke following DEI and giving into
the anti Semitic diatribes that DEI promotes is not necessarily
going to be economically advantageous moving forward. I think it

(06:24):
was advantageous during the Biden administration, and that was part
of the problem. These companies. You know, we're paying homage
to the Biden administration following along with the DEI policies
and proposals, and you know, they were putting out there
on social media and in advertising. You know, look, they
were doing the moral superiority thing, the virtue signaling thing,

(06:46):
and you were supposed to support those companies, and a
lot of Lemmings did support those companies. And now that
people are waking up to the dangers that are inherent
in DEI, the dangers regarding racism and intolerance and lack
of diversity. The worm is turning and that these companies

(07:07):
that found themselves worshiping DEI and through DEI the Bond
administration are now discovering that it was all fool's goals.
Is DEI responsible to the rise of anti Semitism in
this country? I think it is. How about you Dan
in Dartmouth, Welcome to w RKO. How are you Dan?

Speaker 3 (07:30):
I'm good, charity. How are you doing today?

Speaker 1 (07:31):
I am doing okay. So what do you think? Have
I drawn the right correlation here? Is de I one
of the culprits.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
DEI is definitely a culprit. In fact, it's infecting all education,
all the way through, all the way down into the
grade schools as well. And I have to just bring
up another point, Sandy. De I is the gateway for
the trans community as well. And when you look at it,

(08:01):
you have these men that are basically taken hormone blockers
and transitioning and then they become a minority in DEI.
Same thing with you know, women, They get an extra
plus on their side because again, trans opens up new opportunity,

(08:22):
jaws and everything else within the Biden administration's governments and
in what he was putting forth. Now that that's been closed,
this is the anger that's coming out of the trans
community as well, because not only as Trump said, marriage
is between a man and a woman, dicious men and
women in this country period. And then on top of that,

(08:45):
you have DEI closing down in all of the government's
agencies and also in private you know agencies as well
commit banks and companies, but also in the system. So DEI,
now that it's not recognized, closes the door, and the

(09:05):
trans community is very upset. So we're going to get
some more outbreaks. I think over the years with the
trans community as they've transitioned, thinking they have an advantage,
but that advantage isn't necessarily there any longer.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
You're referencing the the shooter in Minneapolis, I take I
take it then when we were talking about yesterday exactly, Yeah, Robin,
and well, did you see did you see by the way,
that it's been reported that he had posted on his
and I'm using he deliberately because he had posted he

(09:40):
was sorry he had transitioned, that he wished he hadn't
and uh so. And the interesting thing is, and this
this might drive you crazy. You know the mayor that
I was speaking about this yesterday, how Mayor Jacob Frye
got out there and teld people not to you know,
don't bother praying. These kids were shot while they were praying.

(10:01):
So what's the point of praying. We need action, referencing
gun control. But death doesn't end the bizarre things that
he said. Dan, he actually went on news Nation and said,
instead of you know, it was Catholic kids that were shot,
Catholic people were shot during mass, but he did not
acknowledge that. He went on he went on a news

(10:24):
nation and said, we have to really help the trans
community who is suffering cut number one please, Mike, Sorry, Dan,
we have what we call the spinning wheel of death
on the computer, which happens sometimes because our computer system
I think gets overloaded by everybody. But basically, to me,

(10:47):
instead of acknowledging, he turned the shooting of Catholic school
children into a moment for us to basically feel sympathy
for the trans community, which, okay, I think your point
is very well taken, and that they are members of
the trans community who were going to rely upon DEI

(11:07):
as a platform to protect themselves and to make them
to give them a hand up, so to speak. And
they don't have it anymore. So they're ticked off. But
here you have Jacob Fry, the mayor of Minneapolis, trying
to use a shooting of other people to make victims
out of the trans community who were not the victims

(11:28):
in this case, were they?

Speaker 3 (11:31):
So in hearty, It's the same case down in Nashville
with Audrey. They turned that around as the trans community
is the victim and the whole situation as well. And
on top of that, it's the same thing they did
with Hamas. You know, with again the Jews that were

(11:51):
slaughtered during that day on October seventh, it all turned
around to protect Hamas and Hamas is the victim. Keep
turning it around one hundred and eighty degrees and this
is this is just a projection of evil on our
society and around the world. And that's exactly what Satan does.
As a matter of fact, if you listen to what

(12:12):
that Robin character who did the shooting up in Minneapolis,
you listen to that video, it does sound very you know,
demonic as far as how he laughed at certain situations.
And I have to point out Sandy this other point.
And they the trans community, they refer to themselves as
they them. Could that be because they are actually even

(12:36):
at that point possessed, well not all of it, there's
demonic possession that goes on there.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Well, not all of them refer themselves as they them.
They're people who who is hugh, who are gender fluid,
who say that they don't want to be either, and
those are they them or they want to be both?
That's day them. Most trans people that are in my experience,
have picked which they want to be and if they

(13:02):
were he now they want to be she. And if
they were she now they want to be he, and
they have chosen the other pronoun. I don't, to be
honest with you, I don't know any and I know
a number of trans people who work for iHeart. None
of them go by the them, not a single one
of them. So I think that that's that's a sub
section that does not necessarily compute across the board. But

(13:25):
I do think that there is that some people may
have thought that, in their zeal to be part of
an accepted community, have went the trans route, which is
a very difficult route, that's not an easy road to walk,
because they thought they would be elevated to your earlier point.

(13:47):
And with the dismantling of DEI, they have to be
wondering if they made the right decision, if that was
the reason why that they went the Dei route. Thank
you so much for the call, Dan, I appreciate it
very much. Let's go to Zeke in Boston. Zeke, welcome
to w RKO. How are you good.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
Thank you very much for taking my call.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
I just want.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
To share with you some observation of Harvard University. There
is a Center for Middle East Studies, a nice building
on the campus of Harvard, and if you enter it,

(14:33):
it's Center of Middle East Studies. You would expect that
it will be something about Israel low and behold nothing
about Israel, though some employees of this center are ethnic Views.

(14:54):
Also a stone throw from this Center for Middle These Studies,
there is Semitic Museum, which was established more than hundred
years ago at Harvard, and the name Semitic Museum is engraved.

(15:17):
It's cut in stone above the entrance of this very
good looking building, an antique building in a way, but
recently it lost its name Semitic Museum. It's now called

(15:40):
the Museum of the Near East Studies, and the students,
new students come to the different venue. Also, I want
to address the new snow. We say Palestinians meaning.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Arabs, but.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Less than like eighty years ago and seventy years ago
and maybe even sixty years ago, Palestinians meant Jews, Jews,
Arabs and Christians who lived in Palestine. And so I

(16:32):
want to show you how everything is being shifted in
a way to please a certain group of people and
not to make people angry.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Said, those were brilliant examples of that. Before the break,
we were speaking the zeke from Boston who called and
was giving examples of how references to the Jewish peace people,
to Israel, etc. On buildings over at Harvard, or being
a race homogenize so they didn't reference the Jews anymore
so that they wouldn't make people angry. He said, you know,

(17:12):
that's another form of anti Semitism doing that, that's you know,
just you know, if a reference to the Jews is
going to make you angry, then you're an anti Semite
and catering to you. It is a form of anti Semitism.
But there's something even more insidious than erasing Jewish references,
and that is lying about them. And there is nothing

(17:34):
like social media for assisting a lie to shoot around
the world. And social media has convinced a whole generation
of people that it's all all right to to be
anti Semitic. How have they done that well? Because if
you post it on social media, it must be true, right,
isn't Isn't that how it goes? And I want to

(17:57):
give you an example of this. A month ago, there
was this very tragic image on social media posts of
a child named Mohammed Zachariah Ayoub Almatuk, and it shook
the world. Headlines told the story of a boy being

(18:18):
forcibly starved in a gazap famine. Turns out that that
story was a lie. Mohammed had cerebral palsy and had
been sixth since birth. All of his siblings were healthy.
Barely A week later, legacy media and social media did

(18:38):
the same thing all over again, this time with a
young girl named Miriam, and we're told that Miriam was
evidence of Gaza's catastrophic hunger crisis. And one newspaper in England,
the Art in Great Britain. The Irish Independent even used
her image as affect against the earlier story regarding Muhammad,

(19:03):
suggesting that Mohammed was an isolated case about a fakery.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
That.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
His sickness and the fact that people misread that as
gods of him. It was an isolated incident and to
prove the gods of him. And here's Miriam and she's
proof of mass starvation. And the La Times quoted doctors
claiming tests showed no underlying medical condition, and her condition
was silly, the result of hunger and malnutrition. And this

(19:29):
is the kind of coverage. The story went around the
world like this. But here's the thing. Her siblings, the
people that she lives with, are all apparently healthy. And
in some of the photos where Miriam is depicted, they're
actually sitting there with her. Editors cropped them out because

(19:50):
they looked healthy, and the editors didn't want you to
see that they looked healthy sitting next to this poor
child who was all skin and bones. If this were widespread,
fans and her siblings and mother would also show signs
of starvation. They didn't. And one photo they couldn't quite
crop out everything, and you can even see the legs

(20:11):
of one of her healthy siblings and normally, you know,
normally appearing healthy sibling. Now, I think it's common sense
that if the family is healthy, then if the child
has an issue, it's an underlying illness. But the editors
of these social media blogs and newspaper stories chose to

(20:33):
cut that part of the story away. A whistleblower inside
an NGO inside Gaza did not like this global deception.
There's enough issues in Gaza without making stuff up, basically,
I think was their point. And there is hardship and
there is starvation inside of Gaza, but these children were

(20:53):
not examples of it. And that whistleblower shared evidence of
Miriam's medical file from the children's hospital that was in Gaza,
and the report showed that she became sick a year
and a half ago before famine was an issue, and
she suffered from intestinal malabsorption. Her body can't properly absorb nutrients.
She was given food, therapeutic milk, and medication, but she

(21:16):
couldn't absorb them. The malnutrition is a consequence of that,
not a cause her current treatment. She's got a treatment
planet that she's on. They give her in her venus fluids,
potassium chloride, vitamins, broad spectromtibiotics, you know, therapeutic food, especially
fortified milk, and this is what they're doing to treat it.

(21:37):
This was not a result of starvation. So when sky
News recently told viewers that Miriam is suffering from severe
malnutrition and suggested that starvation is a characteristic of some
people not having enough food to eat, sky News is
spreading a fake news story. The people who blogged about
her are spreading a fake news story. She has absorption,

(22:00):
has nothing to do with lack of food. Now that
doesn't mean that starvation does not exist in Gaza, but
this is a lie, and it's a lie. These starving children,
I mean, you look at them and you want to cry.
And this is put at the feet of the Israelis
and by association with the Jews. Now there should be

(22:22):
a concerted effort to get these kids to safety for treatment.
But instead of helping her get the specialist care she
truly needs, the globial media turned her into some kind
of famine mascot that exploits her and endangers her and
as well as endangering Jews because it's anti Semitic to
do that and it makes people feel, oh my god.

(22:43):
You know the Israels, the Israelis have caused this. Jewish
people are responsible for these Oh my god, the Jews
are starving children. That's what happens with these kinds of lies.
That's what happens when you erase names from buildings over
at Harvard. This is all to serve the Dei platform.

(23:04):
And that is why President Trump moved to tear it down.
Because when you don't tear it down, when you allow
that to fester, horrible things happen. You know, this lie
about Miriam and Muhammed, they're not victimless crimes. You know,
they promote anti Israeli, anti Jewish sentiment, resulting in situations

(23:27):
like what happened in Boulder last week. In Ohio, there
was I don't know if you saw in an Ohio
pled guilty to an assault on state university students because
they were Jewish. That's the only reason he admitted. He
admitted that that's what he did. A twenty year old
and a friend had engaged in an altercation with five students,

(23:49):
during which he asked, when wearing a pendant that was
from the Jewish fraternity, if he was Jewish and then
they beat the crap out of him because he was Jewish.
That's the kind of thing that's happening. And it's not
just here, you know, as I was pointing out that
was an israel it's in the UK too, you know.
The Israeli envoy warned of rising anti semitism in France

(24:11):
as well, someone to erase all Jewish memory. Did you
see what happened? You know, a group that called itself
Gang of the Barbarians, led by this is back in
two thousand and six. It's a little bit of a story,
but let me tell it to you. In two thousand
and six, a group that called itself Gang of the
Barbarians kidnapped a twenty three old Jewish guy and they
held him hostage and tortured him because they believed, because

(24:35):
they believed the anti Semitic stereotype, that his family must
be wealthy, and they demanded a ransom that the family
couldn't pay. And there were about twenty seven people that
participated in that abduction and torture, and more knew about it,
but they didn't report it. So but he was found naked,
handcuffed and barely cleaning to life at a train station
and he died while being transported to a hospital. Horrific,

(24:58):
just horrific. Well come memorative olive tree was planted in
his honor soon after that happened. Last week it was
cut down and because as a demonstration against the Jews
in an anti Semitic fit of rage, and even French
President Macron condemned it, saying cutting down the tree honoring

(25:21):
Hallimi is an attempt to kill him a second time.
It will not succeed. The nation will not forget this
child of French who died because he was Jewish. But
you know that's lip service. He doesn't do anything. You know,
nothing was done around up the people that were responsible
for killing him. You know, it's not just here, it's everywhere.

(25:42):
Dei is also everywhere Australia bard an Israeli politician from
a solidarity visit to a Jewish community because it didn't
want to anger anybody, I mean seriously. And then there
are more than fifty consultants at the Children's Health Ireland
have called on the State have Ireland to stop using

(26:02):
medicine manufactured by an Israeli company. They'd rather the kids
not get medicine than you use an Israeli company. This
is anti Semitism, and it spreads through little seeds of
things like lying about the children starving in Gaza, like
erasing the names off the buildings in in at Harvard.

(26:26):
You know, it's not just the US DEI acolytes that
are complicit in this. It's people in France, Canada, Australia, UK.
You know, this is what's happening. And I think in
order to reverse the trend, you have to root out
where the problem is. And in my mind, the problem

(26:48):
is in this recent spate DEI. Let's go to Bob
in Medford. Bob, welcome to w RKO.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
How are you, hey, Sandy, Thanks, great show, Thank you.
I'm the former Senate candidate we've met of last year.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Okay, Robert Antonellis, Yes, I do remember.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Oh great. I had been extremely busy this year. I
just published something fantastic and it's called the Butler Brief,
and I've submitted it's a criminal complaint in the state
of Pennsylvania because PA has a rule five oh six
for private citizens to file a criminal complaint, and I've

(27:30):
done so. It's available butlerbrief dot com. But I wanted
to point out to tie into an earlier call about
anti Semitism and Nazis, and you know, the drill Biden
calling Trump and all the rest. Something that's really quite
astounding that I've really built into this model that shows

(27:52):
the whole year of twenty twenty three in the Biden
administration was a lot more bloody than people realize. Particularly
nine to eleven twenty three. That was the day that
Biden or the auto pen signed on froze six billion

(28:12):
dollars to Iran if you recall, right, and that six
billion people say that funded Hamas to attack. That was
only twenty six days later. And the reason is so significant,
not that it is because people say, oh, just come
incidence nine to eleven. No, it was the one hundredth anniversary,
one hundredth ceremonial anniversary of Adolph Hitler's coup, which was

(28:37):
on nine to eleven twenty three. Yeah, we'd say September eleventh,
twenty twenty three. Hitler's beer hall pooch was nine to
eleven twenty three, which is November ninth, nineteen twenty three.
So that's how we turn it on the Democrats that
they actually had been and they were other celebrations of

(29:00):
twenty three bloody celebrations that whole year. So that's that's
I think how we're going to turn it on the
Democrats by saying, you guys are national socialist, right right, say.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Well, you know, I think there's an argument to be
made for that, Bob. I think that, in fact, you can,
you know, make the argument somebody celebrates like that that
yes they are. So you've certainly given us food for thought,
and I appreciate the call, Thank you so much, Bob.
I think there are many reasons why we should care

(29:39):
about anti Semitism, besides the fact that the explosion of
anti Semitism is just wrong. You know, isolating a group
of people because of ethnicity is wrong because if it's okay.
One of the reasons is because if it's okay to
attack the Jews, then it becomes okay to att hack

(30:01):
anybody that you don't like. You can anybody that's different,
which is one of the reasons why I think DEI
is so ironic. In the end, DEI gives racists cover
for not just going after Jews, but by going after

(30:25):
anybody they don't like. As a virtue signaler, anybody the
virtue signalers don't like they can go after under DEI
and they can label under DEI. So that's what makes
it ironic, because you know, just given its name diversity, equity, inclusion,
and it's it promotes things that are far from all

(30:45):
three of those things. And I want to give you
a case in point one is which is Virginia Lieutenant
Governor Winsome Earl Sears was at a meeting held by
the Arlington County school Board to talk about their bathroom
policy after a convicted sex offender was allowed to use
the ladies restroom claiming to be a transgender and it

(31:09):
drew a rally of pro transgender supporters, and they didn't
think anything of raising these very racist signs for miss Sears,
who is black and a Republican and the GOP's twenty
twenty five gubernatorial candidate. I don't know if you remember

(31:30):
when she when she won, she was part of the
team that beat Terry mccaulliffe, and she's outspoken and I
like her. Is this what the sign read? This was
what the pro trans the pro trans protester sign read, Hey, Winsome,
if trans can't share your bathroom, then blacks can't share

(31:52):
my water. Fountain.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
I mean, it's just so, it's this person is holding
this sign in public at a highly publicized meeting with
press present and thinks nothing of it, thinks nothing of
it whatsoever. When people pointed out to her that that

(32:18):
was an incredibly racist sign, she's like, she pulled a
Adam ship. It was satire and meant to provoke debate.
But there's nothing satirical about racism. And by the way,
can we point out that keeping somebody who was not
even trans but pretending to be trans from a bathroom

(32:41):
is not the same thing as the civil rights movement.
But that's what the liberals wanted to try to make it,
because you know, they think that gives them legitimacy. But
this is what DEI breeds. It breeds racism, and in
this case, it wasn't for the Jews, it was for
the black member of the administration. To me, it's it's just,

(33:09):
you know, they make it so easy to hate other people,
which is a complete anathema to what I think DEI
was originally conceived as, and then it was manipulated and
bastardized into the vehicle for racism that I think it
has become now the good news is DEI has I

(33:30):
think met its match in the Trump administration, because from
you know, calling major corporations and universities to account for
their DEI programs, to ordering a review of woke content

(33:51):
in the military. President Trump is also recently ordered what
I thought was very interesting, and that was a review
of woke installations in museums nationwide. That's a shot across
the DEI infrastructure vow and it was according to a

(34:11):
post on True Social the President said that museums are
the last remaining segment of woke, which I think he
is correct and wants to address the issue the same
way that he has addressed it with the colleges and universities.
He's pointed specifically to the Smithsonian, which is a Washington icon,

(34:34):
as an example of the issue, and he says the
Smithsonian is out of control, where everything discussed is how
horrible our country is, how bad slavery was, and how
unaccomplished the downtrodden have been. Nothing about success, nothing about brightness,
nothing about the future. According to the President, his administration

(34:55):
won't allow the current trajectory to continue. He said attorneys
will go through the music SAMs to start the exact
same process that has been done with colleges and universities,
with which he said there's been a lot of progress.
He says the country cannot be woke because woke is broke.
Huh So he's nothing if not good with slogans, don't

(35:17):
you think? On August twelfth, the White House sent a
letter to the Smithsonian, specifically to the secretary Lonnie Bunched
the third. That's a great name. Don't you think Lonnie
Bunched the thirty sounds like what he or she is?
The Smithsonian accolyte stating that the administration is conducting an
internal review of portions of the Smithsonian museums and exhibitions

(35:39):
to ensure that the content is in alignment with the
President's March Executive Order Restoring Truth and Sanity to the
American People. The President said in the order that the Smithsonian,
once widely respected as a symbol of American excellence and
a global icon of culture achievement, has come under the

(36:02):
influence of a divisive, race centered ideology and has promoted
narratives that portray American and Western values as inherently harmful
and oppressive. Do you agree? Do you? Do you agree
with that assessment that that's what's happened. The policy of

(36:24):
this administration has been to restore some of the federal
sites dedicated to history, including the parks and museums, and
President Trump wants to make them more positive instead of
the negative of woe is me attitude, the victim. What

(36:46):
was it that an earlier caller said, the victim mythology
there that everybody wants to be a victim, and to
take the victimology away from some of these parks and museums,
because the President said, museums in our nation's capital should
be places where people go to learn, not be subjected
to ideological indoctrination or divisive narratives that distort history. Is

(37:09):
that what you think has happened? Do you think that
our parks and museums have become distortions of history? The
White House's letter to the Smithsonian outlined what the administration
expects of the review. They want an examine of examination
of websites, social media accounts, educational materials that the museums

(37:31):
put out. And they say that they want to be
constructive and collaborative, So they want the Smithsonian to work
with them in doing this and not they don't want
to go in and just say and just change everything
and say here, lump it, you know, or leave it.
They want to be a collaborative effort. They don't want
to interfere with the day to day operations of what

(37:53):
happens at the museum. But they're trying to promote a
broader vision of excellence that highlights uplifting and inclusive portrayals
of American heritage. I think that's a very good first step.
The Democrats think that that is, in and of itself,
revisionist history. Who do you think is right in this case?

(38:15):
Is President Trump trying to erase history or is he
trying to put positive aspects of history back? And I
find it rich that the Democrats, who have supported DEI,
which is we've just discussed is big on erasure, is
accusing President Trump's administration of erasing history by trying to

(38:36):
uplift the more positive aspects of our history. You know,
it doesn't mean ignore the bad aspects. He's not asking
you to take that away, he's saying, but you can
also emphasize the positive as well as teach the negative.
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