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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, I'm getting a lot of reaction on this, both emails,
texts and on messenger. How many of you this is
really sad? I hate to say this, it's it's really
it's heartbreaking. Actually, how many of you are saying when
that you know that that woman that called previously I'm
(00:21):
forgiving her name escapes me right now. I think it
was Lee. I think it was Lee and Waltham, But anyway, said,
you know, my god daughter is insulting me because I
support Trump's deportation policies. And even though I'm her godmother
and I've always been good to her, She's constantly insulting me,
(00:42):
and and I'm still going to give her a Christmas gift.
But it's you know, it's causing a rift between us
or some distance between us. And many of you are saying, ah,
I have the same experience with either my daughter, my sister,
my brother, my god my godson. That Christmas is now
(01:04):
being ruined because of politics, and in particular bi liberals,
by leftists who can't tolerate the fact that we you know,
you voted with the majority to put Trump back in office,
and they're willing now to ruin Christmas because they disagree
(01:24):
with you politically, and so I'm just curious, is this
what's happening to you? Did you have something like this
regarding Thanksgiving? Are you expecting something like this for Christmas?
Where someone that's very near and dear to you in
your family all of a sudden doesn't want to be
on speaking terms or won't be coming for Christmas dinner,
(01:47):
or doesn't want to exchange Christmas gifts or pleasantries or
whatever it may be because they can't stand the fact
that you voted for President Trump six one seven two
six six sixty eight six eight. Honestly, I think it's sad,
and I think it's unacceptable. It's shameful. It really is. Okay,
(02:07):
very quick. This is from nine one seven Jeff the
Irs has regulations for five oh one C three charities.
This is a brilliant point which churches are and these
regulations are unequivocally clear. Five oh one C three charities
(02:30):
may not engage in any form of partisan politicking. To
do so forfeits that charity's tax exempt status, which would
remove the tax deduction from anyone who donates to that charity,
and prevents other five oh one C three charities such
(02:52):
as the Diocese of Boston from giving financial support. Nothing
could be more partisan politics than what Saints Susanna's is
doing with this manger. But the irs is as corrupt
as every swamp institution, So I would not be waiting
for its action anymore than I would from pretty pambondy
(03:15):
on other issues. No, but that's a very good point.
You know, churches are tax exempt. They're considered way what
are called five oh one c three charities, which is nice.
You want to cut them a check. It's tax deductible,
that's great, But there's a clear regulation and stipulation. No
(03:35):
part is in politicking, No part is in politics. I
don't know what the hell is more part is in
than this. This is nakedly political, nakedly anti Trump, nakedly
anti Ice, nakedly pro Democrat and pro leftist, pro left wing.
(03:57):
I mean, how the hell does that? How does Saint
Susanna keep it said it's taxed, it's it's tax deduct
you know, it's it's five oh one three, it's five
oh one c three status. How does it keep its
tax deduction status? I mean he's right or whatever? Nine
one seven is right?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Okay, This is from my sister on my personal text,
my wonderful sister Jennifer, who lives in Tucson, Arizona. Jeff,
no holy water since COVID, but they let in the
illegal immigrants that are all unvaccinated. That's liberalism for you.
(04:39):
That is so true. So Saint Susannah's no holy water
for five years. The germs, the germs, the germs going
all the way back to COVID. But according to the
priest Father Josoma, no we got we got illegals in
our parish. Yeah, you know you realize they're not vaccinated, right,
(05:00):
you get that? Hello? Hello, Father, anything up there? Hello?
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight.
Giovanni in Saugus. Thanks for holding Giovanni and welcome Giovannie.
(05:25):
Somebody do I have a Giovanni? This is Brenda in Beverly.
I swear I have Giovanni in Saugus on the board.
It's a glitch in the system. Mike. You know you
love to blame tech. I'm just saying, Mike, you love
to blame technology, you know. I mean, you know, Mike,
(05:49):
I mean, Brenda, look what I gotta deal with. You know,
I'm dealing with you know, I got Brenda and Beverly
and instead I got Giovanni and Saugus on the board.
All right, Brenda in Beverly, go ahead, Brenda, all right,
let's go right back to Giovanni and Saugus aka Brenda
(06:10):
in Beverly. Brenda, thanks for holding and welcome.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
And look what us Carla is in Kuna Country have
to go through, per Mike. I mean, I've been misgendered.
I mean, what the hell is going on in that
control booth? The hell is happening to Jeff Louise. I've
giddinly told my family in the past. This is obviously
on a different subject. And then we'll get back to
the serious matter that if I ever were to do
(06:37):
that which will never happen, it will be an easy
Brenda change. It will be Brenda to Brendan. I only
have to change a consonant.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
But let that go, as you'd say, let that go.
All right.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
So on a serious note, now, I do want to
thank you, Jeff. I want to thank you very much
for devoting the show to this subject. It's a very
serious subject.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
I'm gonna get hate.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
He's the word religious. I don't like that word.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
But I'm going to, as a as a self professing
woman of God, say some things. It might make some
of us feel uncomfortable, but you know what Jesus was
an offense. I mean that is the crucive. It's offensive
in a beautiful way. But this is all about our souls, okay,
and it's a wonderful thing and a sense that how
(07:26):
do I say this? Saint Paul said something, Oh, I
think it's in Philippians about how as long as Christ
is being preached, whether out of envy or rivalry or
out of goodwill or love. Uh, it's it's a beautiful
thing that his name is being proclaimed. So in a
way I may give him a little bit of a
(07:49):
round of applause. I mean, I don't contone anything he's doing.
But there's a lot of talk about Jesus, which that
is what we're supposed to be doing about the day
of Christmas, because Christmas is not about what we have created.
That might be an issue for another day, and I
can get in trouble with that. I am not a scrooge.
I'm not anti Christmas. I get the whole magic and
(08:12):
the spirit of giving, And obviously we know from the
Bible that it's more blessed to give than receive. But
the Holy Day itself has been contaminated and corrupted and
it's gotten way out of control. It's more of a
culture of commercializing Christ and cashing in on him. So
it's sort of is like a progression that now we're
(08:35):
here in a political sense where we have a priest
that feels comfortable to take something as wholly all right.
Is sacrilegious with a capital S. It's blasphemous with a
capital B.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
To take.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Jesus Christ, who he is, to be professing and preaching
to his flock, and to be using him and to
be abusing him for political means. Christmas is not about
anything other than the It's a miraculous birth.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
You know this, Jeff.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
It's the miraculous birth of Jesus Christ. It's not about
how this pastor or anybody else can leverage this sacred
day by mocking. They are mocking. They are mocking the
significance as of the day, the miraculous birth of Christ,
as well as mocking Jesus Christ himself. And we know
(09:33):
from scripture that that God says, don't be deceived. God
will not be mocked and a man will reap what
he sows. Now that's on him.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
We're all gonna have judgment.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
He's gonna he's gonna have to explain this when he's
in the judgment seat.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Hello, Taking the sacred Jesus, the Holy Family and using
it is leverage. I mean, it is obscene, it's revol okay,
but it doesn't surprise me that we're here. We go
through this every Christmas season with all kinds of crazy
stuff going on with the baby Jesus or other kinds
(10:11):
of incidents that are happening. But our culture has shifted
since the Industrial Revolution, where the purity and the traditionalism
of this holy day. I give Jews a lot of credit.
They have not contaminated their day with gnomes and fat
men in red suits. And I'm not against having all
(10:34):
that fun, but there's nothing in the Bible, Jeff, that
associates Santa Claus with Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
You're dead off. You're completely right, No, Brenda, You're absolutely right. Look,
this was an issue, Cheez when I was growing up,
and this is like, what is it now, fifty years
ago the commercialization of Christmas where I remember this was,
you know, like I was like six seven, eight years
old in the nineteen seventies. And my parents, and you know,
my father was a very generous man. My mother was
(11:04):
nice too, but my father would give the shirt off
his back, and you know, he was very generous at
Christmas to buy his gifts. But we were getting so
many gifts that I remember my father and my mother
were talking and saying, this is not really what Christmas
is supposed to be about. It's not a birthday on steroids.
(11:24):
It's not you know, you get fifteen twenty gifts. Yeah,
one or two gifts. Sure, it's nice. You eat a
little bit more, you some more of a celebration, obviously
the birth of Jesus. You know, you have a nice
Christmas dinner, you have some nice cake or whatever, a
dessert afterwards, and maybe a little bit of wine. Obviously
(11:44):
you go to church. That's the most important thing. But
they were just telling right away, they were like, this
is I mean, this it's all commercialism. It's all bye
bye bye, sell, sell sell, where's the Christ in Christmas?
I mean, this was an nineteen seventies and eighties, but
now we're going to a different level. To me, to beginning,
(12:06):
that was the perversion, don't get me wrong, But now
we're going to a completely different level. Now. As I said,
this is Karl Marx on the cross. That's what you're now,
That's what we're now seeing. And this priest, if no
one else has the guts to say it, I'm gonna
say it. He's a left wing lunatic. He's a left
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wing lunatic. How does guy became a priest? I don't
know how this guy has remained a priest. I don't know,
but it's an every year it's something with this guy.
It's climate change, it's gun control, it's Jesus in a cage.
(12:49):
It's him constantly giving out anti Trump literature at the church.
I know this for a fact because I've had parishioners
tell me this. And now it's he turned a Nativity
into a big giant anti ice billboard. I mean, I'm sorry,
but you're rendering the church a joke. And the longer
(13:12):
this goes on, I'm telling you, it is doing a
tremendous amount of damage. Now I'm getting people saying, oh,
we Catholics are not so weak kneed, and you know,
Jeff tough en up looks in my faith is my rock.
This clown is not gonna undermine my faith. But what
I'm telling you is if you have more churches doing
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this and more priests doing this, we are going to
continue to bleed and hemorrhage believers. Already the church has
a crisis. In the United States, the pews are half empty,
they're already half empty. In Europe they're more than half empty.
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The only place now where the church is still vibrant
is in Latin America and Africa. That's it. That's it now.
And when you ask people, especially younger people over and over,
why don't you go to church? You were raised as
a Christian or raised as a Catholic in this case,
how come you don't want to go to church? And
(14:17):
the answer is because I don't feel there's anything spiritual there.
I mean, there was this amazing poll that was a
survey I think it was almost a year ago that
came out, and this is what people said. I'm not kidding.
We don't want the priests to constantly make jokes from
the pulpit. This is not a comedy hour. We want
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homilies that actually means something instead of this vague, vacuous
God is love and he loves everybody, and he loves everything.
In other words, the church as I don't know, the
Salvation Army or the church as the Red Cross. They go,
you know, could you give us a homily? I don't know,
(15:02):
on abortion, on marriage, on pornography, on things that are
affecting us every day. We're here for our soul. And
by the way, stop asking for money from the pulpit
all the time. Were you know, it's yes, we have
to give, take care of the poor, take care of
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the needy, take care of the parish. I get it.
But seriously, this is not a charity man, This is
not a fundraiser for a charity. So when you listen
to and these are people in their twenties, thirties, forties,
and they're like, it just doesn't feel like a God
Christ infused church anymore. Now, by the way, that's many,
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even Protestant denominations. It's not unique to Catholicism. But this
guy is undermining and damaging the church. There's no question.
Hell he's making a mockery of it. So look, we
can continue to go down this road. It's not gonna
end well, I'm telling you right now, and it's gonna
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spread and you're gonna see more parishes and more churches
and more priests do this, or we can finally say
nitt no, no, no, absolutely not no. The answer is no,
you're taking the sign down, period. And I'm telling you
after this, the way the archdiocese has now bungled this,
(16:33):
it's beyond now taking the sign down. Okay. To put
an exclamation point to what I was saying just before
the break, this so called father Father Jossima doesn't deserve
to be a priest. I'm sorry he doesn't. And I
think he's violated his oath. I think he's violated his calling.
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I think he's violated his ethical, moral, theological responsibilities. And
I think now the archidiasis it's not enough now to
take the sign down. This. This is liberation theology. That's
what this is heresy and this guy's got to go
(17:16):
six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight agree, disagree,
Elizabeth in Waltham. Thanks for holding Elizabeth, and welcome hi Jeff.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Jeff. I agree with you. I think he probably should
step down. But you know the thing is that this
is just a tip of the iceberg. The Catholic Church
has a deep state. Very you know there's the synatical
church they're trying to implement. They don't even know what
it means. The thing is is, I've been to the
church a couple of times. I do home here and
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I had to go to a couple of funerals and
I like to receive communion on the tongue, but he
told me we don't do that in this place, you know,
when I went up to him. But the thing is,
it's just pray for him. But I wonder what the
deal is with that with the church there, because I
think it was closed they wanted to close it years ago,
and maybe parishion As someone bought it for him because
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it's got a nice, you know house next door to
it too. So you know, he just wants to do
his theology. But he's like one of sadly, like the
Pachi Mama, they didn't. It's all craziness going on. But
you know, hopefully, you know, there's enough Catholics that know
(18:32):
what's what's really going on, and there's a great station
e w TN ten sixty Am Joe McLain and Father mctegue.
They tell you the rundown of like what's really going on.
And while there's one fellow with the Lapontou Institute that
will break down all the money that's been going on.
That's why these bishops with the Catholic charities, they were
making loads of money, and see the Catholic Relief Service
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were promoting like ablortion and all kinds of other stuff
that against the Catholic Church. So there's a lot of
craziness going on. So that's all. I'm sorry, but I
have to go buy that church today because they're going
to pick up someone and I'm familiar with it, and
I just think that he probably has a good deal there.
He probably can live there, you know, and it's a
nice house right next door. I don't know what the
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deal is with the church, but I know they're going
to try to close that church years ago, and for
some reason it's still don't I don't know if it's
that big a parish either, but anyway, I mean, it.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Can't be that big, Elizabeth. They only do what is it,
one service a week, That's what Bill told us a
previous caller. Apparently it's ten o'clock on a Sunday, that's it.
So it doesn't have that big of a you know,
of a congregation Look, if they you know, really, if
they want to go their own way, they can go
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their own way. But then you're no longer a Catholic church.
You don't want to be a breakaway sect or a
breakaway church. That's fine, I don't care. You know, it's
a free country. You can do whatever you want. But
then you know, he'll be like a lot of the
other Protestant churches. You know, just put a rainbow flag
out front, maybe put out a nice flag of communists
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China or the Soviet Union hammer and sickle or whatever.
But then you're no longer a Catholic church. That's fine,
I don't care. But if you claim to be a
Catholic church, and you claim to be a Catholic priest
as he does, well, I'm sorry here, and my god,
you're I don't know, you're violating the fundamental teachings of
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the church. I mean, either the church stands for something
or it doesn't. So we're gonna find out. I think
by the end of today we're gonna have our answer.
I mean, I'd be shocked if this goes on any longer,
because this is now a PR nightmare for the archdiocese,
a PR nightmare Elizabeth, thank you very much for that
(20:54):
very thoughtful call. Six one seven two six six sixty
eight sixty eight. Mark in Milton, thanks for holding Mark, and.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Welcome Jeff, thank you for taking my call. I'm going
to ask you two rhetorical questions, and I mean no
disrespect whatsoever to any practicing Catholic or other Christian sect
or Jewish person of which I am. If back in
the day when you and I immigrated to this country,
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a sponsor had to be responsible and people could not
go on public assistance. If that were the case, and
these NGOs and Catholic charities had to be financially responsible
for the people that they bring in, what would the
stance of the Church.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Be, well, you mean at the time, no.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Right now, if the NGOs and churches had to be
financially responsible for the people that they bring into this country,
would the Church be having this stance?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Absolutely? Absolutely not. I mean, they get a lot of
money to bring him in, but once they bring him
in to become wards of the state, the toxpayer takes
care of them, not the church. So if they had
to be on the hook for them, the answer would
be no, they wouldn't touch one illegal Hello, I mean Mark,
(22:28):
are you still there? Not anymore? We lost Mark. Okay anyway,
it's the end of the show. But no, Mark's point
is right.
Okay, I'm getting a lot of reaction on this, both emails,
texts and on messenger. How many of you this is
really sad? I hate to say this, it's it's really
it's heartbreaking. Actually, how many of you are saying when
that you know that that woman that called previously I'm
(00:21):
forgiving her name escapes me right now. I think it
was Lee. I think it was Lee and Waltham, But anyway, said,
you know, my god daughter is insulting me because I
support Trump's deportation policies. And even though I'm her godmother
and I've always been good to her, She's constantly insulting me,
(00:42):
and and I'm still going to give her a Christmas gift.
But it's you know, it's causing a rift between us
or some distance between us. And many of you are saying, ah,
I have the same experience with either my daughter, my sister,
my brother, my god my godson. That Christmas is now
(01:04):
being ruined because of politics, and in particular bi liberals,
by leftists who can't tolerate the fact that we you know,
you voted with the majority to put Trump back in office,
and they're willing now to ruin Christmas because they disagree
(01:24):
with you politically, and so I'm just curious, is this
what's happening to you? Did you have something like this
regarding Thanksgiving? Are you expecting something like this for Christmas?
Where someone that's very near and dear to you in
your family all of a sudden doesn't want to be
on speaking terms or won't be coming for Christmas dinner,
(01:47):
or doesn't want to exchange Christmas gifts or pleasantries or
whatever it may be because they can't stand the fact
that you voted for President Trump six one seven two
six six sixty eight six eight. Honestly, I think it's sad,
and I think it's unacceptable. It's shameful. It really is. Okay,
(02:07):
very quick. This is from nine one seven Jeff the
Irs has regulations for five oh one C three charities.
This is a brilliant point which churches are and these
regulations are unequivocally clear. Five oh one C three charities
(02:30):
may not engage in any form of partisan politicking. To
do so forfeits that charity's tax exempt status, which would
remove the tax deduction from anyone who donates to that charity,
and prevents other five oh one C three charities such
(02:52):
as the Diocese of Boston from giving financial support. Nothing
could be more partisan politics than what Saints Susanna's is
doing with this manger. But the irs is as corrupt
as every swamp institution, So I would not be waiting
for its action anymore than I would from pretty pambondy
(03:15):
on other issues. No, but that's a very good point.
You know, churches are tax exempt. They're considered way what
are called five oh one c three charities, which is nice.
You want to cut them a check. It's tax deductible,
that's great, But there's a clear regulation and stipulation. No
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part is in politicking, No part is in politics. I
don't know what the hell is more part is in
than this. This is nakedly political, nakedly anti Trump, nakedly
anti Ice, nakedly pro Democrat and pro leftist, pro left wing.
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I mean, how the hell does that? How does Saint
Susanna keep it said it's taxed, it's it's tax deduct
you know, it's it's five oh one three, it's five
oh one c three status. How does it keep its
tax deduction status? I mean he's right or whatever? Nine
one seven is right?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Okay, This is from my sister on my personal text,
my wonderful sister Jennifer, who lives in Tucson, Arizona. Jeff,
no holy water since COVID, but they let in the
illegal immigrants that are all unvaccinated. That's liberalism for you.
(04:39):
That is so true. So Saint Susannah's no holy water
for five years. The germs, the germs, the germs going
all the way back to COVID. But according to the
priest Father Josoma, no we got we got illegals in
our parish. Yeah, you know you realize they're not vaccinated, right,
(05:00):
you get that? Hello? Hello, Father, anything up there? Hello?
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight.
Giovanni in Saugus. Thanks for holding Giovanni and welcome Giovannie.
(05:25):
Somebody do I have a Giovanni? This is Brenda in Beverly.
I swear I have Giovanni in Saugus on the board.
It's a glitch in the system. Mike. You know you
love to blame tech. I'm just saying, Mike, you love
to blame technology, you know. I mean, you know, Mike,
(05:49):
I mean, Brenda, look what I gotta deal with. You know,
I'm dealing with you know, I got Brenda and Beverly
and instead I got Giovanni and Saugus on the board.
All right, Brenda in Beverly, go ahead, Brenda, all right,
let's go right back to Giovanni and Saugus aka Brenda
(06:10):
in Beverly. Brenda, thanks for holding and welcome.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
And look what us Carla is in Kuna Country have
to go through, per Mike. I mean, I've been misgendered.
I mean, what the hell is going on in that
control booth? The hell is happening to Jeff Louise. I've
giddinly told my family in the past. This is obviously
on a different subject. And then we'll get back to
the serious matter that if I ever were to do
(06:37):
that which will never happen, it will be an easy
Brenda change. It will be Brenda to Brendan. I only
have to change a consonant.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
But let that go, as you'd say, let that go.
All right.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
So on a serious note, now, I do want to
thank you, Jeff. I want to thank you very much
for devoting the show to this subject. It's a very
serious subject.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
I'm gonna get hate.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
He's the word religious. I don't like that word.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
But I'm going to, as a as a self professing
woman of God, say some things. It might make some
of us feel uncomfortable, but you know what Jesus was
an offense. I mean that is the crucive. It's offensive
in a beautiful way. But this is all about our souls, okay,
and it's a wonderful thing and a sense that how
(07:26):
do I say this? Saint Paul said something, Oh, I
think it's in Philippians about how as long as Christ
is being preached, whether out of envy or rivalry or
out of goodwill or love. Uh, it's it's a beautiful
thing that his name is being proclaimed. So in a
way I may give him a little bit of a
(07:49):
round of applause. I mean, I don't contone anything he's doing.
But there's a lot of talk about Jesus, which that
is what we're supposed to be doing about the day
of Christmas, because Christmas is not about what we have created.
That might be an issue for another day, and I
can get in trouble with that. I am not a scrooge.
I'm not anti Christmas. I get the whole magic and
(08:12):
the spirit of giving, And obviously we know from the
Bible that it's more blessed to give than receive. But
the Holy Day itself has been contaminated and corrupted and
it's gotten way out of control. It's more of a
culture of commercializing Christ and cashing in on him. So
it's sort of is like a progression that now we're
(08:35):
here in a political sense where we have a priest
that feels comfortable to take something as wholly all right.
Is sacrilegious with a capital S. It's blasphemous with a
capital B.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
To take.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Jesus Christ, who he is, to be professing and preaching
to his flock, and to be using him and to
be abusing him for political means. Christmas is not about
anything other than the It's a miraculous birth.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
You know this, Jeff.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
It's the miraculous birth of Jesus Christ. It's not about
how this pastor or anybody else can leverage this sacred
day by mocking. They are mocking. They are mocking the
significance as of the day, the miraculous birth of Christ,
as well as mocking Jesus Christ himself. And we know
(09:33):
from scripture that that God says, don't be deceived. God
will not be mocked and a man will reap what
he sows. Now that's on him.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
We're all gonna have judgment.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
He's gonna he's gonna have to explain this when he's
in the judgment seat.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Hello, Taking the sacred Jesus, the Holy Family and using
it is leverage. I mean, it is obscene, it's revol okay,
but it doesn't surprise me that we're here. We go
through this every Christmas season with all kinds of crazy
stuff going on with the baby Jesus or other kinds
(10:11):
of incidents that are happening. But our culture has shifted
since the Industrial Revolution, where the purity and the traditionalism
of this holy day. I give Jews a lot of credit.
They have not contaminated their day with gnomes and fat
men in red suits. And I'm not against having all
(10:34):
that fun, but there's nothing in the Bible, Jeff, that
associates Santa Claus with Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
You're dead off. You're completely right, No, Brenda, You're absolutely right. Look,
this was an issue, Cheez when I was growing up,
and this is like, what is it now, fifty years
ago the commercialization of Christmas where I remember this was,
you know, like I was like six seven, eight years
old in the nineteen seventies. And my parents, and you know,
my father was a very generous man. My mother was
(11:04):
nice too, but my father would give the shirt off
his back, and you know, he was very generous at
Christmas to buy his gifts. But we were getting so
many gifts that I remember my father and my mother
were talking and saying, this is not really what Christmas
is supposed to be about. It's not a birthday on steroids.
(11:24):
It's not you know, you get fifteen twenty gifts. Yeah,
one or two gifts. Sure, it's nice. You eat a
little bit more, you some more of a celebration, obviously
the birth of Jesus. You know, you have a nice
Christmas dinner, you have some nice cake or whatever, a
dessert afterwards, and maybe a little bit of wine. Obviously
(11:44):
you go to church. That's the most important thing. But
they were just telling right away, they were like, this
is I mean, this it's all commercialism. It's all bye
bye bye, sell, sell sell, where's the Christ in Christmas?
I mean, this was an nineteen seventies and eighties, but
now we're going to a different level. To me, to beginning,
(12:06):
that was the perversion, don't get me wrong, But now
we're going to a completely different level. Now. As I said,
this is Karl Marx on the cross. That's what you're now,
That's what we're now seeing. And this priest, if no
one else has the guts to say it, I'm gonna
say it. He's a left wing lunatic. He's a left
(12:28):
wing lunatic. How does guy became a priest? I don't
know how this guy has remained a priest. I don't know,
but it's an every year it's something with this guy.
It's climate change, it's gun control, it's Jesus in a cage.
(12:49):
It's him constantly giving out anti Trump literature at the church.
I know this for a fact because I've had parishioners
tell me this. And now it's he turned a Nativity
into a big giant anti ice billboard. I mean, I'm sorry,
but you're rendering the church a joke. And the longer
(13:12):
this goes on, I'm telling you, it is doing a
tremendous amount of damage. Now I'm getting people saying, oh,
we Catholics are not so weak kneed, and you know,
Jeff tough en up looks in my faith is my rock.
This clown is not gonna undermine my faith. But what
I'm telling you is if you have more churches doing
(13:34):
this and more priests doing this, we are going to
continue to bleed and hemorrhage believers. Already the church has
a crisis. In the United States, the pews are half empty,
they're already half empty. In Europe they're more than half empty.
(13:55):
The only place now where the church is still vibrant
is in Latin America and Africa. That's it. That's it now.
And when you ask people, especially younger people over and over,
why don't you go to church? You were raised as
a Christian or raised as a Catholic in this case,
how come you don't want to go to church? And
(14:17):
the answer is because I don't feel there's anything spiritual there.
I mean, there was this amazing poll that was a
survey I think it was almost a year ago that
came out, and this is what people said. I'm not kidding.
We don't want the priests to constantly make jokes from
the pulpit. This is not a comedy hour. We want
(14:40):
homilies that actually means something instead of this vague, vacuous
God is love and he loves everybody, and he loves everything.
In other words, the church as I don't know, the
Salvation Army or the church as the Red Cross. They go,
you know, could you give us a homily? I don't know,
(15:02):
on abortion, on marriage, on pornography, on things that are
affecting us every day. We're here for our soul. And
by the way, stop asking for money from the pulpit
all the time. Were you know, it's yes, we have
to give, take care of the poor, take care of
(15:24):
the needy, take care of the parish. I get it.
But seriously, this is not a charity man, This is
not a fundraiser for a charity. So when you listen
to and these are people in their twenties, thirties, forties,
and they're like, it just doesn't feel like a God
Christ infused church anymore. Now, by the way, that's many,
(15:46):
even Protestant denominations. It's not unique to Catholicism. But this
guy is undermining and damaging the church. There's no question.
Hell he's making a mockery of it. So look, we
can continue to go down this road. It's not gonna
end well, I'm telling you right now, and it's gonna
(16:09):
spread and you're gonna see more parishes and more churches
and more priests do this, or we can finally say
nitt no, no, no, absolutely not no. The answer is no,
you're taking the sign down, period. And I'm telling you
after this, the way the archdiocese has now bungled this,
(16:33):
it's beyond now taking the sign down. Okay. To put
an exclamation point to what I was saying just before
the break, this so called father Father Jossima doesn't deserve
to be a priest. I'm sorry he doesn't. And I
think he's violated his oath. I think he's violated his calling.
(16:55):
I think he's violated his ethical, moral, theological responsibilities. And
I think now the archidiasis it's not enough now to
take the sign down. This. This is liberation theology. That's
what this is heresy and this guy's got to go
(17:16):
six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight agree, disagree,
Elizabeth in Waltham. Thanks for holding Elizabeth, and welcome hi Jeff.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Jeff. I agree with you. I think he probably should
step down. But you know the thing is that this
is just a tip of the iceberg. The Catholic Church
has a deep state. Very you know there's the synatical
church they're trying to implement. They don't even know what
it means. The thing is is, I've been to the
church a couple of times. I do home here and
(17:51):
I had to go to a couple of funerals and
I like to receive communion on the tongue, but he
told me we don't do that in this place, you know,
when I went up to him. But the thing is,
it's just pray for him. But I wonder what the
deal is with that with the church there, because I
think it was closed they wanted to close it years ago,
and maybe parishion As someone bought it for him because
(18:12):
it's got a nice, you know house next door to
it too. So you know, he just wants to do
his theology. But he's like one of sadly, like the
Pachi Mama, they didn't. It's all craziness going on. But
you know, hopefully, you know, there's enough Catholics that know
(18:32):
what's what's really going on, and there's a great station
e w TN ten sixty Am Joe McLain and Father mctegue.
They tell you the rundown of like what's really going on.
And while there's one fellow with the Lapontou Institute that
will break down all the money that's been going on.
That's why these bishops with the Catholic charities, they were
making loads of money, and see the Catholic Relief Service
(18:56):
were promoting like ablortion and all kinds of other stuff
that against the Catholic Church. So there's a lot of
craziness going on. So that's all. I'm sorry, but I
have to go buy that church today because they're going
to pick up someone and I'm familiar with it, and
I just think that he probably has a good deal there.
He probably can live there, you know, and it's a
nice house right next door. I don't know what the
(19:18):
deal is with the church, but I know they're going
to try to close that church years ago, and for
some reason it's still don't I don't know if it's
that big a parish either, but anyway, I mean, it.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Can't be that big, Elizabeth. They only do what is it,
one service a week, That's what Bill told us a
previous caller. Apparently it's ten o'clock on a Sunday, that's it.
So it doesn't have that big of a you know,
of a congregation Look, if they you know, really, if
they want to go their own way, they can go
(19:48):
their own way. But then you're no longer a Catholic church.
You don't want to be a breakaway sect or a
breakaway church. That's fine, I don't care. You know, it's
a free country. You can do whatever you want. But
then you know, he'll be like a lot of the
other Protestant churches. You know, just put a rainbow flag
out front, maybe put out a nice flag of communists
(20:09):
China or the Soviet Union hammer and sickle or whatever.
But then you're no longer a Catholic church. That's fine,
I don't care. But if you claim to be a
Catholic church, and you claim to be a Catholic priest
as he does, well, I'm sorry here, and my god,
you're I don't know, you're violating the fundamental teachings of
(20:30):
the church. I mean, either the church stands for something
or it doesn't. So we're gonna find out. I think
by the end of today we're gonna have our answer.
I mean, I'd be shocked if this goes on any longer,
because this is now a PR nightmare for the archdiocese,
a PR nightmare Elizabeth, thank you very much for that
(20:54):
very thoughtful call. Six one seven two six six sixty
eight sixty eight. Mark in Milton, thanks for holding Mark, and.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Welcome Jeff, thank you for taking my call. I'm going
to ask you two rhetorical questions, and I mean no
disrespect whatsoever to any practicing Catholic or other Christian sect
or Jewish person of which I am. If back in
the day when you and I immigrated to this country,
(21:27):
a sponsor had to be responsible and people could not
go on public assistance. If that were the case, and
these NGOs and Catholic charities had to be financially responsible
for the people that they bring in, what would the
stance of the Church.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Be, well, you mean at the time, no.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Right now, if the NGOs and churches had to be
financially responsible for the people that they bring into this country,
would the Church be having this stance?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Absolutely? Absolutely not. I mean, they get a lot of
money to bring him in, but once they bring him
in to become wards of the state, the toxpayer takes
care of them, not the church. So if they had
to be on the hook for them, the answer would
be no, they wouldn't touch one illegal Hello, I mean Mark,
(22:28):
are you still there? Not anymore? We lost Mark. Okay anyway,
it's the end of the show. But no, Mark's point
is right.
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