Manhattan Massacre : The NFL Shooter

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Cooner Country. Okay, Jampack show for you today.
Trust me when I tell you this. A lot of
topics today, a lot of breaking news, but this one
is absolutely horrific. So here is now the absolute latest
from both media and law enforcement sources. An individual twenty

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seven years old name Shane Turmura, who was now residing
in Las Vegas, apparently drove across the entire country. I
mean he did it within two days. From Las Vegas,
he went into Nebraska, Colorado, Iowa, hardly ever stopping going

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through New Jersey. And from New Jersey he went to Midtown,
New York, and he targeted a massive skyscraper forty four
stories which housed the headquarters of the NFL. And I'm
going to come back to this because now it seems

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there's a very strong link now to the National Football
League and professional football but headquarters the NFL, Blackstone and
other very very important companies and clients. He apparently arrived
with an M four rifle and a revolver in his car.

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He double parked his BMW right in front of the
building and caught on surveillance camera with witnesses watching. He
calmly put his sunglasses on and began to confidently walk
towards the skyscraper with his long gun, his M four

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right there in the open, hanging down his side. He
then walked to the lobby and immediately began to open fire.
It was a bloodbath. There's no other way to put it.
This was an evil, bloodthirsty killer who went on a

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vicious shooting rampage. He shot a police officer, killed him dead.
Officer did the rule Islam, an immigrant from Bangladesh who
was there on a paid detail. He shot him. The
poor man never had a chance. This poor police officer

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was shot dead. He was gonne down. He leaves behind
a wife, two children, and a third on the way.
She was pregnant with their third child. As he lay
on the floor bleeding to death, there was another woman yelling, screaming,
cowering behind a pillar. This animal walked up her point

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blank range. Boom, boom, boom, shot her dead. He then continued,
apparently now according to multiple witnesses, and this is now
what the police are saying, Tamara then began to spray
the entire lobby with bullets. They said it was a
hell fire of bullets. All it was was boom, boom boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,

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boom boom. It was relentless. He then walked up to
a security guard who was apparently crouching down behind the desk,
point blank shot him dead. He then saw a male
which apparently now is a staff member who worked at

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the headquarters at the National Football League was there, confronted him.
The shooter shot him. However, it appears he may survive.
He is in critical condition but stable cande. He then
went to the elevator bank. At the elevator bank, a

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woman came flying out of the elevator. For reasons that
we do not know, Shane Turmora did nothing. He didn't
shoot her, he didn't try to hurt her, he didn't
try to kill her. Apparently he just let her go.
Now there's speculation that maybe he really didn't see her,

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in the sense that he was so focused on killing
people with his adrenaline rushing tunnel vision, so focused on
the task at hand, that sometimes you lose your peripheral vision,
and maybe because she didn't yell, she just froze in
a sense with fear and just quietly just ran out.

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That maybe he didn't or she didn't make a sound
that he thought was threatening to him. Whatever the reason,
he let a woman go bizarre. He then went into
the elevator. He then went up to the thirty third floor,
which is the management offices, the management office that runs

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that huge skyscraper. Rudent management, rudn you can look it up.
He then walked down the hallway and again started to
shoot left, right, and center, just spraying bullets everywhere. He
eventually saw an individual, a man trying to escape, shot

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him in cold blood. That man is dead. He then
continued to walk down the hallway and then stopped and
then for no explanent reason, turned the gun on himself
in the chest and died of a self inflicted gun

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unwound boom. He basically blew his chest out. In all,
there are six victims, five including the shooter, are dead.
The sixth to one is the NFL staffer who is
now fighting for his life. It is an absolute blood bath.

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This was a massacre, make no mistake about it. And
police officer is now dead. For three innocent victims are dead,
the shooter is dead, and by the grace of God,
that NFL staffer looks like he was saved. We'll see
if he recovers and makes a full and complete recovery.

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The doctors are confident that he may survive. Now here
is what we know, because the question now is why,
Why would someone drive almost overnight. We don't know if
he stayed at a hotel, but basically it was a
two day trip. They monitored, police found they looked at
his cell phone GPS, and they found that essentially it

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was a two day trip. He barely stopped. He went
straight from Las Vegas all the way to New York. Now,
question number one, if you want to shoot up an
office building, there are many office buildings you can shoot
up in Las Vegas. He didn't. He specifically targeted New

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York and he specifically targeted dis Skyscraper in particular. Why.
And he seemed to be like a man on a mission.
He just drove state after state after state, going all
the way into New York City. Apparently he was even
caught in traffic for a couple of hours from New

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Jersey into downtown New York and he just stayed in traffic,
made his way up to Park Avenue where this building
is located. He could have hit Times Square, for example,
which is maybe half a mile away. It is teaming
with people. Yesterday it was summer ninety two degrees, ninety

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three degrees times square was packed, packed, packed with people.
I mean he could have killed thirty forty fifty people
had he wanted to, but he wanted Park Avenue, which
was more out of the way, and that building, that
skyscraper in particular. It appears they have now found a

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suicide note and it appears to explain a lot for
the motivations of what happened. Apparently, Shane Turmurraw was a
high school football player with tremendous promise. He was a
running back, a lot of contact, a lot of helmet
to helmet contact, according to his coaches. He was then

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living in California. His coaches at Golden Valley High School
in California said that for Shane Tomorrow, the sky was
the limit. That they believed he was going to be
in the NFL one day, that he had so much
tremendous talent, speed, skill, toughness, the whole package. But there

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was a dark side. He apparently got repeated concussions, suffered
from what's called CTE, basically traumatic brain injury from repeated
blows to the head. He began to descend into serious
mental health issues. He suffered from constant headaches, cognitive impairment,

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memory loss. The police in Las Vegas said they had
numerous run ins with him due to his mental health problems.
He left behind a suicide note saying that the repeated
blows to the head, the repeated concussions that he suffered
as a hhigh school football player, made his life unbearable,

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that he suffered with such brain trauma that he didn't
want to live anymore, and that he ultimately blamed the NFL. Now,
what the question is is this, The NFL's headquarters are
on the fifth floor to the eighth floor. Yet he

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didn't stop at the NFL's headquarters fifth floor, sixth floor,
seventh floor, eighth floor, for some reason. He went all
the way to the thirty third floor, which is again
roudent property management. They're the ones who just managed the
whole building. That's where he went. Now, was he so
low iq by this point? Was he so brain damaged

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by this point that he couldn't think rationally or sensibly.
And you know, if you're going to blame the NFL,
you would figure, well, he's going to target the NFL headquarters.
He's going to hit one of those floor.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
The shooter is believed to be Shane Tamora, twenty seven
year old male with a Las Vegas address. The vehicle
he exited is registered in Nevada to mister Tomorra. Inside
of that vehicle, officers found a rifle case with rounds,
a loaded revolver, ammunition in magazines, a backpack, and medication

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prescribed to mister Tamorra. The vehicle was searched by our
bomb squad and found to be clear of any explosives.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Six nineteen on the Great Wrko Jeff Kooner, Boston's Bulldozer. Okay,
absolutely horrific massacre yesterday in downtown New York. The voice
you heard was New York City Police Commissioner Jessica Tish
describing now the bloodbath that took place at that skyscraper
on Park Avenue by this absolute savage and there's no

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other way to describe it. Let me just make a
couple of points, and then I want to open it
up to you, the great audience of Cooner Country six
one seven, two, six, six sixty eight sixty eight. Frankly,
I'd like to get the calls as soon as possible,
So the moment the lines are loaded, I'm going straight
to the phone calls. Number one. The fact that he

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suffered from mental health issues doesn't excuse what this animal,
with this savage did. Many Americans suffer from mental health issues.
They don't go around and shoot up buildings and slaughter
innocent people in the lobby of a skyscraper. They don't

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shoot a police officer dead. They don't shoot a woman
cowering behind the pillar. They don't shoot an innocent security
guard just you know, crouching underneath their desk and literally
at point blank range. So that's number one. Number two,
it appears that the motive, it appears left. You know,

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if you go to the suicide note the fact that
he drove all the way to that specific skyscraper which
headquarters the NFL, the floors five, six, seven, and eight,
and one of the NFL staffers or people who worked
at the headquarters was shot. So far, he's the only
survivor and hopefully he will make it. So okay, you

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suffered from traumatic brain injury, because apparently he did take
a lot of blows to the head when he was
a star running back in high school with tremendous potential.
All of his teammates said, we all said, this guy's
going to make it to the NFL. His coach, in fact,
was on record in one of these local newspapers saying
that for Shane, quote, the sky is the limit, He's

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going to make it to the NFL. If anybody's going
to make it, it's him. So maybe you know, he
got his hopes up thinking, hey, I'm a star quarterback.
My team has done extremely well. I've got a lot
of colleges now after me. My future is extremely bright.
And then yet he took blow after blow after blow,
concussion after concussion after concussion, and he suffered obviously severe

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trauma and brain damage, and apparently he didn't end up
becoming a college running back. His career just completely petered out.
He said he couldn't function to many people that he
spoke to, that he felt constantly cognitively impaired, that he
forgot he had just had massive memory laps. He would

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get into the car and not know why he's in
the car, or where he's going or where he has
to go. He apparently worked as a security guard at
a casino in Las Vegas, which is a far cry
from being a star running back in the NFL and
a multimillion dollar contract. That doesn't justify. No one asked

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you to play foot in high school, no one asked
you to keep taking blow after blow to the head,
And nothing justifies you going to an office building and
slaughtering innocent people. What do they you know, what did
that poor police officer, officer Islam, What did he have

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to do with you getting whacked in the head one
too many times? What did the poor woman hiding behind
the pillar? And they're not releasing the names of the victims.
And I understand why for the privacy of the family,
But that poor woman who was just finishing her day
at work, she didn't deserve to be massacred and slaughtered.

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And you know, at point blank range and cold blood.
This guy was a bloodthirsty killer. So you have liberals
already trying to blame the NFL for what happened, trying
to blame football for what happened, trying to say it's
time to bank football or band contact sports, or that

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football has now become too dangerous with all these concussions. Look,
you know the risks. Everybody knows the risks now in
professional football. The size of the players have gotten bigger,
the speed has gotten They've gotten much faster, the collisions
have gotten much harder. It's a risk. My nephew played

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high school football. He played offensive line. Who's he's a
big guy. He can pick me up. Seriously, I mean
he can out you know. He he the guy would
the guy you know, three hundred three and fifty pounds
when he's weight training. I mean the kid Andrew's a tank.
And I don't say that as a as a term
of derision. I mean he's a big, strong boy. He

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plays offensive line, and apparently he got a couple of
concussions playing high school. He knew the risks. He's a
big boy. His parents, my sister, and my brother in law,
they know the risks. So there's a question now of
personal respect onsibility. So don't blame professional football, don't blame
the NFL. Ultimately, he chose to play. Ultimately, he chose

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to play after concussion, after concussion, after concussion, Well, I'm sorry,
you chose to play, And this is what happens now
if you're miserable with your life. And I don't believe
in suicide at all, I think it's a mortal sin.
But let that go. If you're not happy with your
life and you can't live with the brain trauma and

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the brain damage, well okay, fine, you want to take
your life, no one's going to stop you. But why
kill other people around you to what draw attention to
your cause? To get you know, draw attention to CTE
and concussions in brain trauma caused by football. So what,

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You're going to kill people and get more attention? I
don't think so. Now let me just say one last
thing because this needs to be said. Aaron Burnett on CNN.
Just when you thought those scumbags in the liberal media
couldn't get any lower or any worse, she went on

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the air and kept going on, initially how the shooting
suspect was quote unquote white. The CNN these comebags wanted
to make this a racial issue and make it seem
like this was a white shooter, white supremacy. Okay, as

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I was saying, just before we got before we have
to go to break, look, I'm telling you, CNN is come.
I'm choosing my words very carefully. Just when you thought
you couldn't hate them enough, just when you thought they
couldn't go any lower. So you had Aaron Burnett yesterday
on CNN making an absolute fool of herself playing the

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race card. And so they went on the air regarding
the shooter and Shane Tamura, who is black. I mean,
he's he's also part Japanese. You can see it a
on his the way, some of his facial features. And
of course the last name Tomorrow is a Japanese last name.
I don't care, like I don't. To me, evil is

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evil as evil. I don't care the race of the
perpetrator of a crime. And in fact, if you want
to get technical about it, most mass shootings are perpetrated by,
you know, by white men, young white men. That's normally
the profile. But the fact of the matter is, in
this case, he happened to be a you know, he
was black or whatever, half black, half Japanese, well whatever,

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but he's black. His skin cut, he's clearly black. I
mean you can see the picture. He's black. Okay, there's
no question. No, not according to CNN. According to CNN, no,
this was a white shooter, or she'd put it, probably,
and they tried to m squeeze it into their narrative

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white supremacy. Donald Trump that's what this was all about. KKK.
These people are sick. I'm telling you they're sick. No
journalistic integrity whatsoever, no credibility whatsoever. So if you don't

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know the facts, shut up. Instead, what they do is
they just keep stirring that racial pot. That's all. That's
all they want to keep doing, stoking racial division and hatred,
pushing their anti white, anti maga, anti Trump narrative at
all costs, seriously. And they wonder why they're in the

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rock bottom in terms of ratings, and they wonder why
they're an international laughing stock and why they're called the
fake news media. It's fake, fake, fake. That's all these
people know is fake news. So anyway, look, let me
say one last thing and then I want to go
to the phones. I never politicize a shooting. I think

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it's the sickest thing. Liberals do that all the time. Guns. Guns.
What kind of a gun was it? Was it a block?
Was it a thirty eight special? What kind of a gun?
In this case, it was an M four. It was
a long rifle that he used. Apparently he did have
a revolver in his car, apparently with ammunition and magazines

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from according to what media and law enforcement are reporting,
Tamura did have a conceal and carry license. Now we
don't know if it's for the M four We do
know is he had a conceal and carry license for
the Revolver at a bare minimum, which he got in
Las Vegas, which is where he was working and living

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at the time of the massacre yesterday. Now, New York
City has some of the strictest gun control laws, not
only in the United States, on the planet. It's essentially illegal,
with a few exceptions. It is illegal to own any

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kind of a gun or a rifle. And did gun
control prevent this? No, I'm just stating the obvious and
the other thing that I find a bit shocking about,
besides the actual act itself, which is purely it's you know,
you want to talk about barbarism and evil. But he

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double parks his car, his BMW, he double parks it
in front of the office building, the skyscraper, and then
he calmly gets out of his vehicle and you can
see it on the surveillance bed. On the surveillance is
a camera and the surveillance video he's got this, I mean,
this huge M fourteen rifle, right down his right side,

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and he's you know which, sunglasses, cavalierly, coolly, nonchalantly, confidently,
he's just strolling across this you know, he's up the side,
you know, up the sidewalk, across the little courthouse there
he is walking towards the skyscraper. And nobody says anything.

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The gun is just out there in the open, the rifle.
Nobody says anything. Nobody does anything. Nobody calls nine to
one one. It says, if everybody's got their heads buried
in the sand, see no e hear, no evil speak

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no evil. I just find it remarkable nobody until the
actual shots were fired, nobody was yelling, screaming, going, gun
gone gone, something called the police something. No, he's just walking.
And I'm sorry. I mean, you know, I go to

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New York once in a while, haven't been there in
a while, but do people just walk around with long rifles,
just wearing sunglasses and just you know, cavalierly walking down
the sidewalk of a street like I really is it?
Is it like Matt Max in the movie? I mean, seriously,
I have things gotten that bad in New York? And

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let me just say one absolute final point and then
go to the phone lines. New York is in big trouble.
I'm telling you right now. I understand he drove from
Las Vegas. He drove almost two days and two nights straight.
I get it, I get it. But still the police

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response was horrible. And I'm not talking about that poor
officer that was killed. They have defunded the police in
New York for years now. There's no deterrence, as everybody
in New York is now saying, you used to see
police cars everywhere. You used to see paid police details
at these skyscrapers, these big buildings, everywhere. You would see

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on a street like Park Avenue at least eight cars,
police cars everywhere. Now you're lucky if you see one.
So it's not just that there's no deterrent anymore because
you don't see cops anywhere, but the response time very slow.
They don't have enough resources, The investigation ability, the investigative

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ability very slow. So this is what happens when you
start to defund the police. Animals, criminals, savages begin to
take over the streets. And this guy parked his car
and he just waltzed the cross and walked in and

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there was one police officer that stood in his way,
just one, and he ambushed him. He caught him completely
by surprise. He was the first one he shot, and
he killed him. And then after that it was a
shooting gallery until he went up to the thirty third
floor shot and killed one more innocent person, until he

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turned the gun on himself. Six one seven two six
six sixty eight sixty eight agree, disagree? What do you
make of this massacre in New York? Number one? Number two?
Is football to blame? This is what liberals are all ready.

(27:00):
He saying too much contact, too many concussions, too much
brain damage. That football, the NFL is to blame for this.
Do you agree? And already they're calling for even more
gun control? Is guns? Is confiscating even more guns? The

(27:20):
answer Steve in New Hampshire. You're going to kick us off, Steve,
thanks for holding and welcome.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Hi, Good morning, Jeff. Ste First, I'd like to say
I give my prayers to the families of those who
were the victims of this of this evantage never acceptable
in any circumstance, and regardless of the circumstances that resulted
in this, those families are not going to be the same.

(27:50):
What I told the call spring of this morning, is
you kind of touched upon it that with that mind frame,
it wouldn't supply not to focus on the NFL to
victimize them, but to attack pure innocence and lay it
at their feet, to make them to have that feel like,

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oh my god, you know, to like a psychological guilt,
like not tacked. Because I don't think he actually focused
and knew that NFL rep was actually an NFL REP.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
It sounds like he just shot who was ever in
the building? That's right, Steve, yes, So going on that
assumption that if he thinks he's shooting all innocence and
the NFL is in that building in his I guess
his note you said he's blaming the NFL for that.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
What better way to lay that guilt on them than
to affect people who have nothing to do with it
and put it on it almost like a form of terrorism,
you know, to get to get a certain result.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Interesting, Steve, let me ask you a question and then
I'm up against it. Please hang on. I want I
want to talk to you on the other side. I
want to take all of your calls sticks one, seven, two, six, six,
sixty eight, sixty eight. Okay, let's go right back to
Steve and New Ampshire. Steve, I think you're making an
absolutely fascinating and brilliant point that his was a form

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of terrorism. He wanted to guilt trip the NFL, shame
the NFL, almost traumatize the NFL by killing all of
these innocent people and saying, now this blood is on
your hands. I'm just curious, Steve, cause I think you're
you're making a very interesting point. Why not target the

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actual headquarters of the NFL at that skyscraper between floors
five and eight. Instead he goes all the way up
to the thirty third floor, which is the floor that
is occupied by the manager of the building, rudent properties.
You know, he could have gone to the fifth or sixth,
or seventh or eighth floor, and then after killing all

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of these innocent people, including the police officer in the lobby,
then just come in and start killing some NFL staff
members Or was that also part of his plan? Do
you believe to just keep killing innocent people below the
headquarters and above the headquarters? What say you, Steve?

Speaker 3 (30:23):
I think it, yeah. I think it's like that at
a certain level of separation. I mean, if you don't
go in there intently to cause physical damage to the
NFL at all. Then like if you're going in there
and you kill NFL representatives because of think and blaming

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them for it, well then they're gonna say, well, see
they deserved it. And you know they they're they're shooting
and killing NFL people and that's where the blame is.
And then the then the blame kind of lays within
the NFL internally. But when you get people that have
nothing to do, absolutely nothing to do with the NFL,
then it raises that level of you know, no connection

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at all.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
It adds and I.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Think, an extra you know, more weight, Like I can't,
I don't know how I can actually describe it. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
In other words, look, you the NFL got innocent people killed.
This guy came there because of allegedly this is you know,
the thinking of I hear what this is the line
of thinking. Look your policies, this physical contact, helmet, the helmet,
the concussions, the brain trauma, the brain injuries that you
and the NFL are sweeping under the rug, and that

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you're damaging all of these young football players. Well because
of what you guys have done and foisted upon the
you know, the people who play football. Now, innocent people
are dead because he went there and shot innocent people.
And so you're right, it's like you're gonna you're traumatized
and terrorizing the NFL basically. Now, Roger Goodell, this is

(32:04):
the line of thinking. Roger Goodell now has blood on
his hands, the commissioner of the NFL. You see, you, buddy,
you because of what you guys in the NFL have done.
Now look at the bodies. That's all on you, correct, Steve.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
And what was the name, because this happened from a
pay former Patriots player, uh, several years.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Ago, Junior Seou, Yeah, Junior Seau. He was I think
a linebacker and he took his own life the same thing.
He was complaining of the very same symptoms that this
guy was, this shooter. And they looked at his brain
after he died, and I mean it was scar tissue everywhere.
I mean that that brain. It looked like somebody was,

(32:52):
you know, with a knife for whatever, just a scalpel,
just picking at the brain. That there was so many
tears and damages, So a damaged tissue and tears in
his brain. And you know, he said he couldn't remember anything,
he couldn't function. He goes like, you know, I go
to my truck. I'm gonna go grocery shopping. I'm like,

(33:13):
why am I my truck? I forgot? Why am I
my truck? And he just sits there and he has
no clue. What's you know? What do I do?

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Now?

Speaker 1 (33:20):
I don't even know what I'm doing here. That he
suffered debilitating headaches, he was dizzy spells, he couldn't concentrate.
That his life was just it was torture. Every minute,
every second of the day was just torture. And no
matter how many you know, what medication you're on, the
drugs they give you, that it's just unbearable. And you know,

(33:44):
it doesn't matter you've made so much money. You can't
enjoy your money because you can't enjoy even a second
of your own life. And so he said life was
so unbearable that that's why he ended up killing himself. Now,
this guy is apparently, according to his suicide note, is
something similar to that. But I go back to my
original monologue. I don't believe in suicide. Please don't get

(34:06):
me wrong, But okay, you take your own life, But
why do you have to kill other innocent people. That's
the part that I find that's what's so evil about
what happened yesterday. Uh, Steve, final word to you.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Lead him that like if he killed himself, where would
the attention be? Okay, so a former high school possible,
you know, NFL person kills himself because for whatever he
didn't make it blah blah blah. But when you it
wouldn't be. No attention would be drawn to it except

(34:44):
for its immediate thing. But to make the bigger issue
what it is. And we live in the society where
no one wants to take personal responsibility for anything, but
to make it, as you know, as horrific and frighten
as possible, why not go for a whole bunch of
people have absolutely nothing to do with the issue, but

(35:06):
are located where he believes the source of the issue
is and lays it at the.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
Seat for them.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Excellent, A really good call, Steve. Thank you very much.
I think you've laid it out beautifully. Agree, disagree. I'd
love to hear from you. Six one seven two six
six sixty eight sixty eight. Let me just throw super
very quick log on the fire. Should we ban tackle football?

(35:33):
Shouldn't really let me ask all it, because this is
now inevitably going to be the discussion should we ban
professional football, should we ban tackle football? The argument, let
me just quickly, it's, you know, it's an obvious argument.
When you have two grown men, very strong, you know,

(35:53):
you know, fast colliding with each other, one wearing a helmet,
the other one wearing a helmet, and they go helmet
to helmet, you're gonna see some brain damage. That it's
inevitable that the sport now has just become too violent.
The players are too big, too strong, too fast, that

(36:16):
the technology is not keeping up with the pace of
the game and the violence of the game and the
physical impact of the game, and that what you're seeing
now is really a scandal that the NFL and everyone involved,
whether it be high school football which is big money,

(36:36):
college football, which is even much bigger money, and NFL,
which is you know, astronomical money, that they're all trying
to sweep under the rug. For every superstar who makes it,
there are so many people like this man, okay, this animal,
Shane Tamura, who not only don't make it, but their

(36:57):
lives are ruined because of repeated concussions blows to the
head and brain trauma, and that it's time now, you know,
go to you know whatever, touch football, flag football, that
you don't need to have this kind of tackle football,
this kind of violence that we see in football. Should

(37:20):
football be banned? And do you blame the sport for
what happened in New York? You know my position, I
believe in personal responsibility. You don't want to play, don't play.
I'll just very quick example. I mentioned my nephew Andrew.
He was a good player. He played offensive line, very good.
It's his senior year. Now she wrapped up his senior year.

(37:42):
He's not going to play college football, but still enjoyed
his time in high school and now wants to go
to the Marines. And it looks like my nephew is
going to go to the Marines in September or October.
But loved his football years. Loved the carmaraderie, loved the
discipline that it gave him. He likes the physical contact.
He's a big, strong guy. The weight training, the weightlifting physically,

(38:05):
he transformed his body anyway. Loved football. If he had
the talent, he said he would play college football. That
was his choice. He knows the risks. He knew the risks.
You know, his parents, my sister, and my brother in law,
they knew the risks. So to me, it's a question
of personal responsibility. Ashton is now really starting to get big.

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He's physically his shoulders are broader than mine. I think
he can bench press now more than I can. I mean,
he's weightlifting now three or four times a week. He's big,
he's stocky, he's getting really muscular now. He loves it.
He's becoming a gym rat. My point is he wanted
to play football about maybe a year ago, two years ago,

(38:53):
he said, you know, I want you know, Mom and Dad,
I want to play football, tackle football. Grace, I would
have let him play, to be honest, Grace put the
kabash on that she nixed it. She said, absolutely not
for the reasons of I don't want you to get concussions.
I don't want you to get possible brain trauma or

(39:15):
brain injury, as she put it over my dead body.
And you know, he didn't want it that bad that
he was going to argue with his mother. Day after day.
We had a few discussions about it, and she put
her foot down and he moved on, and you know
he accepted it. But my point is, you know, my
sister said yes, my wife said no. In the end,

(39:38):
it's up to the it's up to families, it's up
to the parents, and it's up to the players. Don't
blame the NFL. Don't blame football. Again. They always blamed
That's what liberals do. They blamed the guns. They they
blamed sports. They they blame everybody but the evil or himself. Agree, disagree.

(40:04):
Maggie in Amesbury. Thanks for holding Maggie, and welcome.

Speaker 5 (40:09):
Good morning, Jeff.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Hi Maggie.

Speaker 5 (40:12):
First of all, very sad and tragic. My prayers go
out to all the families. But I just wanted to say, Jeff,
I haven't heard anyone mention this. Have they ever looked
at the medications these people are on? Now? I want
to preface that by saying this is all multifaceted, right,
There are so many reasons why someone may go out
and shoot, showed up an area on people. But with

(40:36):
mental illness, brain injury, it's so awful in and of itself,
but so many of these people in different shooters. There
are all these medications that just add fuel to the fire.
If you know what I mean. So it's not one
reason why people do this, but I think a study
is needed because these medications can really, I don't know,

(40:58):
they can be a trigger almost somebody who's depressed or ingrace.
And then you add on some of these medications and
it can be like a ignites the fuel if you will.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Well, Maggie, you know it's funny that you should mention that,
because I could play the clip again. But the New
York Police Department commissioner, the New York Commissioner, Jessica Tish, said,
you know, we checked his car. We were looking for
possible I don't know, explosives, bombs, you know who knows,
And she said, we found a lot of ammunition, We

(41:31):
found a revolver that was loaded, we found a backpack,
and we found medication in his car. And the bizarre
thing was, and this is how big Farm has always
protected the reporters asked to their credit, well what kind
of medication? What was the medication? She goes, Oh, I
can't get into that. Well why can't you get into it? Well,

(41:54):
it's just privacy. He's dead. What privacy he's dead? And
you know she's the one. The commissioner I'm not blaming her.
I'm just explaining the commissioner was the one who said
he suffered from serious mental health issues and that they
contacted the Las Vegas Police Department. They said, no, he

(42:14):
doesn't have a criminal rap sheet, he didn't commit crimes,
but there were numerous incidents with him dealing with supposed
mental health. That he had a mental health disorder, that's
the term they used, and that he had mental health problems,
and so he had frequent run ins with the police.
No arrests, but mental health. So she's telling us he's

(42:36):
got a long history of mental health disorder disorders, mental
health problems, that he had medication with them in the
freaking car, but you won't tell us what it is.
So what the guy's driving across the country is basically
popping pills. And you know, I'm going to play the timeline.

(42:58):
She lays it out very well, the commit the way
they lay it out. He leaves what is it, the
twenty fifth or the twenty sixth, I forget, but it's
like he's a man on a mission. He gets in
that car, and you know, he could have stopped anywhere.
He could have shot up a building in Las Vegas.
He could have shot up a building in Nebraska or

(43:18):
Colorado or Iowa or she describes the path that he took,
and he's doing multiple states every day. I mean, he's
flying across the country. He wanted to hit that skyscraper
in particular, and you know, the police in New York said,
thank the Lord, he didn't hit Time Square because the

(43:41):
attack took place that's basically six thirty in the evening.
It was a very hot day. It was just after
people were getting off work. They said Time Square was
packed packed. A guy like him just gets out of
the car in front of Time Square with the firepower
that he had. We're not talking five dead, we could

(44:05):
be talking fifty dead. But no, he went by Times Square,
so he wasn't there just to kill people for the
sake of killing people, Because he could have killed people
all along the way, and he could have slaughtered him
in Times Square. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.
He went on Park Avenue, which by then was much

(44:26):
less populated. He went to that specific skyscraper. He double parks.
I think I believe left the door open. In other words,
like he's not coming back. He knows he's not coming back.
And this is the part that is so chilling, Maggie.
How cool, how calm, how confident. The only word I

(44:50):
can keep thinking is nonchalant. Like the way I walk
to the ice cream store, you know, I park my car,
I bring my kids, and I'm just like I'm having
an ice cream, Like what's the problem? You know, like
guilt free, stress free, anxiety free. And he's got this cannon.
It's a rifle, but it's basically a cannon hanging down

(45:14):
the right side of his leg. And these sunglasses like
he's like, he thinks he's cool. He didn't think twice.
It's so evil. It is so callous. No sense of
right or wrong, no sense of good or evil. I

(45:35):
don't know if this man had a conscience or whatever.
The brain trauma destroyed his conscience. I don't know, but
you can tell he didn't care. And now he was
at the building he wanted to be, and he was
going to kill as many people as he could. And

(45:56):
you know what had he struck an hour earlier, Remember,
he gets stuck in traffic, he hits, he hits. The
New Jersey Turnpike was at four o'clock. The way the
commissioner put it and he gets either it was the
haul In Tunnel or the Lincoln Tunnel, but he gets
stuck in traffic in one of those tunnels. So that's
why he's there at six thirty. Many people had already left.

(46:19):
Had he gotten there an hour earlier, which I think
when he was wanting his projected time to get there,
that lobby would have been full. That lobby, I mean,
he would have killed ten, fifteen, twenty people. And he
came in there and according to the witnesses, he didn't blink.

(46:39):
It was as if he was shooting squirrels and yelling, screaming,
blood everywhere, terror everywhere. And once he had killed so
many people in the lobby, he went to the elevator
bank this woman, for whatever reason, gets out of the elevator.
Maybe he didn't see her, maybe she crawled out, who knows,

(47:03):
but he lets her go, gets in thirty third floor,
he gets out, and apparently the moment he got out,
boom boom boom, boom, boom boom, he's just spraying bullets
and there was one man there, trapped point blank range.
Bang shot him dead. And then he looked around and

(47:27):
then he started to walk down the hallway. People thought
he was going to kill more people, and then for
some reason he just stopped, put the gun to his chest,
not to his mouth or to his head, but to
his chest, and boom, blew his chest out. And the reason,
according to the suicide note, is that he wanted to

(47:49):
leave his brain and talk so it could be studied.
I agree with you. What was he on? What medications
were he take? Was he taking? Did this help contribute
or fuel what happened? But you see, they tell us everything,
well even know the names of the victims. They'll tell

(48:11):
us every piece of information, but they won't tell us
what he's on. They will not tell us what medication
he was taking. Final word to you.

Speaker 5 (48:20):
Maggie, describe that. And you know the brain and brain
trauma is a horrible thing that I do think studies
need to be done. These are again factors to a
bigger picture. But we can't ignore this factor in addition
to everything else that we look at.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
I agree. I couldn't agree with you more, Maggie, Thank
you very much for that call. Look, I'm getting a
lot of text messages and emails from people who listen
to the show. Either they live in New York, or
their former New Yorkers. And let me tell you what
they're all saying. Those that used to live in New
York are saying, Jeff, I would never go back to

(49:02):
New York. I grew up in New York. I was
born and raised in New York. It has changed in
the last ten fifteen years. They go, the crime is
out of control. Criminals are running wild, homicides, rapes, violence,
gun crimes. They're just it's they go, I wouldn't go back.

(49:26):
I wouldn't bring my family back, I wouldn't bring my
children back. And people in New York say, Jeff, it's
completely different than what it was twenty years ago. We're
afraid when we go outside. The criminals own the streets.
And you're right. They all tell me about the defunding
of the police. There is no police visibility. The police

(49:50):
presence now is minimal. They have gutted the police and
it's poor innocent citizens that are paying. Two six six
sixty eight sixty eight is the number. And these are
the same people now that are on the verge of
electing Mamdani, who wants to abolish the police, abolish the

(50:15):
police and abolish prisons. That's what they're about to vote for.
I don't know what else to tell you. I mean,
if you want to commit suicide, I can't stop you.
So hopefully, if there's any silver lining in this, this
could be a wake up call you really want no

(50:36):
police because they just had one police officer and that
police officer was shot and killed, and look how many
more were massacred.