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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
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selling Patriot missiles to NATO and other words, and then
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Kuner Report. To me, I think it's pretty obvious he's
making he's putting Ukraine first. And I'm not saying this
as a dig against the president. You know how much
I love President Trump and I agree with him, you
know what is it ninety nine percent of the time.
But you know, he's openly saying Ukraine's on the ropes
and I don't want to see Ukraine fall. And Putin
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is hammering, as he put it, hammering the hell out
of Ukraine. And I'm not going to see Zelenski and
his government collapse and Russian troops to have a you know,
a massive military victory, not on my watch. So I'm
going to bolster Ukraine so that eventually Putin in about
you know, a month or two, will be forced to
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sue and come to the negotiating table, agree to a ceasefire,
and agree to some kind of a negotiated settlement. So
the purpose of sending them all these weapons, the purpose
of the sanctions and the tariffs, is to prop up
and bolster Ukraine to eventually break Putin so they both
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sides come to a peace table and sign an agreement.
So I think it's obvious to me it's Ukraine first. Now,
maybe in the long term an end to the war
is America first, but clearly in the short to midterm
this is Ukraine first all the way. But that's me
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I want to hear from you. Six one seven two six,
six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay, very quickly,
this is from Larry on messenger Jeff, I have a
slight disagreement with Barbara the previous caller. Putin may be
a bully, but Zelensky is that obnoxious midget in the
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group that as a couple of big friends behind him,
and he keeps antagonizing the bully. Eventually the antagonizer gets
caught alone with the bully, and that's where we are.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I think there's no question Zelensky's been poking Russia, you know,
in the eye, over and over and over and over
and over again. And now I mean he's I mean,
you know, everyone's talking about a knockout blow. Trump is
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worried now that Putin may deliver Zelenski the knockout blow.
Hence the weapons sales, the sanctions, and the tariffs. So
Zelensky was spoiling for a fight, and Putin gave him
one six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty
eight agree, disagree. Chris in the Freedom State, Florida. Thanks
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for holding Chris, and welcome. Good morning, Hi Chris.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
How are you doing.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
How are you I'm doing okay, I'm in the Freedom shape.
That's a blessing. But listen, everybody seems to forget that
just didn't just start. Zulinski hasn't always been a politician.
He was in he was installed by the c i A.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
He was the he was an actor in a very
popular program called Servant of the People.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
And he went from.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Being a a failed comedian into.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Being an actor into being the president. And if we,
if we will.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Remember what was going on in Ukraine at the time
when he was installed, there was another dictator and that's
what Jolensky is. You said he was essentially a dictator,
but no, he is a dictator and he what what
platform did you run on? He ran on anti corruption
platform when he was just as corrupt.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Long story, short is, we had corrupt politicians involved, already
involved in Ukraine. And what happens when our side starts
to figure out what was going on in Ukraine? The
next thing you know, fear's a war? Who started it? Biden?
I wrote a long article and I tagged you in it.
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I always tag you in Facebook articles.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
When I tagged the president, vice president and a lot
of other people, Please look out for that.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Long story, short is, I wrote a long article in
Facebook about why we were it to Ukraine? What better
way if you're a criminal, how are you going to
destroy all that corrupt information in another country that you're
involved in? Hello, start a war and let the enemy
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destroy all that information. Just what we don't have anymore.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
We don't have any more information on all the corruption
our policy, sois were involved in?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
This is what's going on.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Oh, you're dead on. Look, Chris, you're on fire. By
the way, you're absolutely dead on. This goes all the
way back to twenty fourteen where the Obama regime and
Joe Biden, who was Obama's point man on Ukraine, along
with John McCain, Lindsey Graham, the whole crew orchestrated a
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CIA coup to overthrow a democratically elected Ukrainian president. He
was pro Russian, his name was Yanukovich, but he was
democratically elected and they orchestrated that overthrow in Maidan Square,
which is where it began. That's why it's called the
Maidan Revolution. And at my don the CIA overthrew the
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democratically elected leader. That's when Putin moved to seize Crimea
in parts of eastern Ukraine. Six one, seven, two sixty
eight sixty eight is the number. Okay, listen now to
Trump yesterday in the Oval Office, after he made his
big announcement that we're going to be selling to Ukraine
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through NATO. NATO is going to buy it or the
European countries in NATO are going to buy our weapons
and then distribute them and arm Ukraine along with these
Trump's plan within fifty days, should Putin not declare a
ceasefire or agree to a ceasefire, then we will impose
a crushing one hundred percent tariff, not just Russia, but
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on what are called secondary tariffs other countries that do
business with Russia, especially if they buy Russian oil and
natural gas. Listen now to Trump with NATO Secretary General
Mark Root saying that he's dealing with a very hard
man in Vladimir Putin, and that he's fooled every US president,
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from Bill Clinton to George W. Bush to Barack Obama
to Joe Biden. He says, but he's not fooling me.
And according to Trump, Putin's economy is going to implode,
the Russians are going to be forced to go to
the peace table. He is going to break Putin over
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the next three to four months. Roll cut three A Mike.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
I don't want to say he's an assassin, but he's
a tough guy. It's been proven over the years he's
fooled a lot of people. He fooled Bush. He fooled
a lot of people. He fooled Clinton, Bush, Obama, Biden
needed for me. But what I do say is that
at a certain point, you know, ultimately talk doesn't talk.
It's got to be action, it's got to be results.
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And I hope he does It's it's potentially such a
great country to be wasting so many people on this
and the money, and look at what's happened to his economy,
look at what's happened.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
So and fifty days will be hits, very hard.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
I mean, look, I hope he I hope he's gonna
do it. He knows the deal, he knows what a
fair deal is, if there is such a thing as
a fair deal. They can know there's no winners here.
This is a loser. This is a loser.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So you really understand now Trump's thinking. In other words,
he's saying, look, no one's going to really win this war.
There's there's only losers now. In other words, the loss
of human life, how much you've expended in blood and treasure,
and the damage to Russia's economy, especially Ukraine's economy and infrastructure,
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and of course the massive loss in human life. He says, look,
there's no winner here now. Now, I think that's where
Putin disagrees with Trump. He thinks, no, we're gonna we're
gonna force Zolensky to sign surrender. He's going to force this,
he's gonna sue for peace. We're gonna win this on
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the battlefield, and then I can go back to my
people and justify the last three and a half years.
So I think that's where he and Trump don't see
eye to eye. Now one final point, and then I
want to go to the phone lines. What I this
is where I look. This is where I think Trump,
how do I say this? He's trying to push for
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something that ultimately he doesn't have control over. He can
put all the pressure in the world on Putin, he
can put all the pressure in the world on Zelensky.
He can send all the weapons he wants to Ukraine,
he can impose all the sanctions that he wants. But
in the end, if the Russian people are willing to
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keep fighting and the Zelenski regime is determined to keep fighting,
and Putin is not willing to settle for anything less
than total victory on the battlefield, then there's really nothing
you can do. I mean, unless you want to, you know,
I use the US military, and then that's a different story.
It's a different cattle of fish. So what I'm saying is, look,
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I understand his intentions. Of course they're very noble, and
I share them. Who doesn't want the fighting to stop?
I want the fighting to stop. What sane person doesn't
want the fighting to end. But the problem now is
if two sides don't want to end the fighting, then
there's nothing much you can do. And now you see
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this is the problem if you go down the road
of sanctions in tariffs A. I don't think they're going
to ultimately work, but let that go. Okay, we can
agree to disagree. You're no longer in neutral arbiter. See
now that we're arming Ukraine, now that we're sending them
all these weapons, selling them all these weapons, and we're
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now threatening with sanctions, and say we go ahead with
the sanctions. Well, how are you now in neutral arbiter?
You're effectively on the side of Ukraine. You're a co belligerent,
You're fighting a proxy war against the Russians. So this
is going to hurt Trump's ability, even if he wants
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to be the peacemaker and make a negotiated settlement. And
so look, I notice is a very unpopular position with
the elites. And I know that the Libs hate this,
and then neo conservatives hate this. But I'm you know,
everyone's like, you know, well, Putin won't go to the
peace table. Putin's bombing Ukrainian cities. Civilians are dying, which
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is horrible, don't get me wrong, But it's war. What
do you think happens in war? Civilians die. That's just
a fact. So I'm looking at this and I'm like, okay,
but how is this any of our business? I mean,
I get it from a humanitarian point of view, and look,
you did your best, You did everything you possibly could.
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But if Zelensky doesn't want to see reason and he doesn't,
and Putin doesn't want to see reason and he doesn't,
what are you gonna do? Hold a gun to their
heads and force him to make peace. So now we're
gonna get more and more enmeshed and involved in a vicious,
savage war that is ultimately none of our business and
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where we don't have a clear national interest at stake. Again,
I go back to this argument, Russia is not a
member of NATO. Ukraine is not a member of NATO,
So why is NATO getting involved and why are we
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willing to risk World War three to get involved while
we have an invasion here? And to me, this is
the checkmate argument as far as I'm concerned. Look, you know,
let's sober up and get out of the bar, everybody.
We're barely getting three thousand deportations a day. We're lucky
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if we get a couple million illegals out after Trump's
term is over. Biden brought in fifteen to twenty million.
We're lucky if we get two to three, maybe four
million out. ICE is being blocked at every turn. They're
now being fired upon. LA is almost in full insurrection.
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You've got another rogue judge who just imposed a restraining
order preventing ICE from making arrests in Los Angeles. So
we've got our own invasion to deal with, and now
we're going to get involved as we have been for
the last three and a half years, but now again
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under Trump, in a conflict that's thousands of miles away
that it's been its borderland between Russia and Ukraine, that
the two sides that been fighting about for over a
thousand years. Why is every conflict our business? I always
find this incredible. You know, people will call in and say, well,
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you know, this is happening in Asia, this is happening
in the Middle East, this is happening in Africa, this
is happening in Eastern Europe. We've got to do something.
I'm like, why, I mean, unless it directly bears upon us.
Why who died and made us the world's policeman? Who
died and said this is the new Roman empire where
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we have to impose a Pax Americana as the Romans
imposed a Pax Romania on the world. We're not an empire.
We're a republic and we're losing our republic. Let's focus
on the massive problems here at home. So to me,
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we need this involvement in Ukraine like we need a
hole in the head. It's not our concern, it's none
of our business. And let me suggest something. And this
is a problem I think Americans have in general, especially
progressives and liberals. I'm not accusing Trump of this, I'm
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saying just in general, six one seven two, six, six,
sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay, just before
I go to Hillary in Maryland. This is from Lisa
on messenger and this is what she messaged me, and
clearly she's got a very strong point of view and
that I think speaks for many of you in the audience. Jeff,
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what I wanted to tell you all morning is that
you asked if we were disappointed in Trump regarding his
decision to sell weapons to Ukraine, and is this what
we voted for? My answer, I am not in caps disappointed.
I voted for Trump. I dedicated ten years of my
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life to him and the betterment of this country for
my children, which means I all in caps trust him.
With two exclamation points, we can walk and chew gum. Jeff,
It's still America. First. There are many people fighting for America.
He has always been a different kind of globalist. He
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wants peace and he believes he was saved to save
the world, and that is what saves this country. If
the world is a mess, America can never truly be
at peace. My opinion is trust. So let me throw
this log on the fire. Lisa Barbara, many others say, look,
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we voted for Trump. Part of it is like the
CEO of a company. You believe in him. His maturity,
his experience, his judgment, his wisdom, overall his policies. Let
Trump be Trump. Trust in Trump, and he's taken us
very far. He's often not right. No, he's often right,
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very rarely wrong. If he says he can squeeze Putin
and get him to the table and have him sign
a ceasefire or maybe even a negotiated settlement, let's trust
in Trump and give him a chance. What say you?
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
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Hillary in Maryland, Thanks for holding Hillary, and welcome.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Thank you, Jeff.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
I have to say happy New Year because I don't
think I'll called all year.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
That's right, No, it's it's been a long time Hillary.
We missed you.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Oh well, you're so popular. I can't get through anyway.
You know, your monologu Glass before he went to commercial
break kind of stole pretty much all my thunder. But
I just wanted to say, you know, Lisa and Barbera
are just sick of CeNSE, and that you know Lisa
is saying trust Trump. It's like, well, what am I
not supposed to believe my lying eyes? I mean what
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I was going to say a long time ago. I
guess I don't have to repeat. It was like, how
is this any of our business? You know, we seem
to forget what Trump promised. And I'm not talking just
about in this last cycle book, all that we've gone
back to sixteen. He never said he was a globalist.
Now Lisa is saying that he's a globalist. He always
said he was a nationalist. That's why we voted for him,
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you know. And it's like, how is this any of
our business? And between this that and Epstein thing, I mean,
aren't you tired? Aren't you tired of voting and getting
the exact same thing no matter who you vote for.
I mean, how is this really any different than when
Biden was doing Biden was sending Ukraine weapons, you know,
And you're right, I mean the billions that we were
sending them, we could be using to deport legal allience.
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And you know, for all the hype you know that
Trump is deporting all these people, we're not deporting nearly enough.
And I think, you know, we've become so beaten down
as Americans. You know that anything that they do we
were just so thankful for. We're just grasping for the crumbs.
It's like being being impressed that somebody comes to your
you know, house for dinner and they don't eat with
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their hands. This should be going on on a daily basis.
I mean, you don't get credit for doing something you
should be doing in general anyway. So, I mean, you know,
Trump lying about the Epstein thing. I mean, I see
a lot of these people that just still they just
will not open their eyes to what Trump's become. But
you know what, I'm with the guy. You know, I'm
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sick of being lied to. I did not vote for
this at all. I voted for America, not even America
first America only. You know, we have enough of our
own problems. We're in debt, and then this one of
your callers called in yesterday and talked about what's still
in this bill, and people are still still okay.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
With this guy.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
I mean, you know, if he was really responsible, he
wouldn't have signed that saying I mean there's so much cravit. Yeah,
he got what he wanted as far as what he wanted,
but what about all the other stuff that goes along
with it? Then more debt, more printing of the dollar,
we have less buying power. We're still in the same
economic problem. That we were before. I just don't understand
why people won't open up their eyes and admit, hey,
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you know what I fell for it. I mean, the
guy lied to me everything.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
He said he would do.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
We're just getting the same old, same all. I just
don't understand it. I don't understand how people can be
so you know, almost like you know, they treat this
guy like he's Jesus Christ or something. You know, that's
the only one you should trust. You shouldn't trust a man,
and particularly not a politician, and maybe especially not Trump,
because I don't I can't remember anyone that made more
definitive promises than him and.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Just completely lied.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
I mean, really, what have we gotten that we voted for?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Seriously, Hillary, let me ask you this question, because a
lot of people are making this point, and I think
it's a very valid point that you hardly ever hear.
Ever almost forget the media or the establishment media, but
I mean, even on many so called conservative talk shows. Ultimately,
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who poses a greater threat to your freedoms, your liberties,
your safety, my freedoms, my liberties, my safety, that of
this entire audience and that of this country. Vladimir Putin
or the ruling class here in Washington, DC. It's not
Putin that's opened up our borders. It's our political leaders.
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It's not Putent that's preventing them from being deported on
massive numbers. It's our political leaders. It's not Putin that's
racked up a thirty seven trillion dollar national debt. It's
our political leaders. It's not Putin that's driving inflation through
the roof and printing the dollar. As you pointed out,
it's our political leaders. It's not Putin that's have this
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crime that is getting Americans killed in cities all over
the country. It's our political leaders. It's not Putin that's
pushing critical race theory or DEI or transgenderism or all
of these sick ideologies here in the United States. It's
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our political leaders. It's not Putin that's you know, on
the verge of electing a communist in New York City
that is going to destroy one of the greatest cities
in America. It's you know, liberals, Democrats and the Democratic
Party and many of our political leaders. In other words,
what is the greater threat to us? Is it Vladimir Putin,
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whatever you think about the guy, or is it the
swamp in Washington.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
What say you, Well, I think that instead of going
against Vladimir Putin, I mean I thought that's what another
thing we elected Trump for was to go to war
with the swamp and to end the corruption and to
clean it out. And you asked the question the other
day concerning BONDI like, who is she prosecuted?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Well?
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Who is?
Speaker 6 (24:08):
How has Trump really been instrumental in getting people in
there again? He just he doesn't hire the right people
getting people in there that are going to go to town.
You know, when Biden got in there, he didn't waste
any time. I know there were other people pulling the string,
but they got to work and trying to impose their
agendas pretty quick. I mean, what is it that Republicans
like every single time they just they missed opportunity after
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miss opportunity, they shoot themselves in the foot And you
have to say, you know, no one is this stupid.
You know they're shilling for the other side. I mean,
We've got they're just controlled opposition. And I'm just tired
at this point in my life of voting every time Hope.
And you know, like like that one gal said, you know,
like fighting for Trump, you know, supporting him with everything
and then just getting the same old, same old. I mean,
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I just I can't take it anymore. And he better
worry about what's going to happen in the midterms, because
I'm telling me something I should have tell them. In
the midterms, he's got to earn my they've got to
earn my vote, and they can't to say oh, And
I mean, I'm done with the whole thing. I'm done
with them.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Interesting. Interesting, Hillary, thank you very much for that call.
I really appreciate it. I'm far from done with Trump.
I think he's done a very good job as president.
I agree he could do more. He could always do more,
but I think much of what he's done the last
six months has been absolutely spectacular. Of course, I don't
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agree with everything, but you know, remember he's working with Ryan.
I'm not excusing it. I'm just explaining it. You know,
he's got razor thin majorities in the House, razor thin
majorities in the Senate. He's got to deal with, you know,
Rhinos and establishment Republicans. So you know, Trump would off
I think if you were here, he'd say, I hear you, Hillary,
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You're a purist, and I respect that but don't let
the perfect be the enemy of the good. And I'm
doing the best I can with what I have. You
know the expression, you go to war with the army
you have, not the army you wish you have. But no,
look Epstein in particular, I'm gonna be honest. I've heard
a lot of people now saying I'm demoralized. Jeff, I'm
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really demoralized. I don't know if I'm gonna come out
for the midterms, so anyway, but look, I just want
to stick to Ukraine now for a second. Yeah, I
mean I've asked this question many times. You know, would
I live under what I like to live under Putin?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Of course not. If I was living in Russia. Would
I vote for him, of course I wouldn't vote for him.
But I'm not in Russia. I'm here. And who poses
the greatest threat to my freedom and my liberties and
my security and that of my family. It's the swamp.
It's not even close. It's the deep state. It's the swamp,
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and it's the corrupt establishment. It's not Vladimir Putin. And
notice how the media just turns this guy into like
the boogeyman, and by the way, China poses a much
greater threat to US than Russia. I mean, there's no
question about it. Yet we're willing again to go to
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war potentially with Russia. Like what's wrong with this picture?
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight agree, disagree?
Dan in New Hampshire, thanks for holding Dan and welcome.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yes, thank you, Jeff, Hi Dad, Hey, the enemy of
the people is China, the dirty corrupt globalist EU, NATO
and UN and the Washington DC sore and a Federal
Reserve Bank which is really a shelf bank for central
banking controlled bedrool russild and Jeff. You've talked about this,
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You've laid it out. People need to listen when you're talking.
Sometimes the treaty in nineteen ninety one, it's Clintons. They
they've been moving. Who in two thousand and four signed
off on NATO enlargement. Okay, so he's involved. And in
ninety nine when he enlarge in Bush Junior two thousand
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and four, in two thousand and seven, so it's his
war two and Obama two thousand and eight, twenty fourteen,
and you got Victoria Nolan who has a fringerprints all
over it with her husband Roder Kagan. And when Anthony
Blincoln in January in December went to it was also
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because of Biden and the puppet and Obama when they
went to they wanted to bring in Ukraine into NATO.
But also when Blincoln and December and January went there
to Ukraine because you wanted to put missiles in the Ukraine.
So they're behind it. And you look at the Chancellor Germany,
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Chancellor Merged, he's a the German Nazis as Battalian Neo
Nazi soldiers fighting Russians. Okay, that's what's going on. And
on top of it, you gotta look at we shouldn't
be selling we shouldn't be selling military weapons to US
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NATO's who are enemies who are popping up the lunch.
This war would be over if they're the ones who's
been popping it up. They want to extend this war
because they need more time, using ENGOs to wash the
money through England banks, through shell companies, through globalis and
corrupt poisons, destroying our country. The Bidens, the Bushes, Obama,
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Chamy's Counted, Gore McConnell, Humor McCarthy, Porosi, Romney, Terry Graham, Ships,
French hip, Jeffreys, corn Warren Raskin, pens Omark and even McCain. Okay,
and on top of it, you got in deluxe Ukraine.
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You have baby being killed for audience, children being sold
for pedophilia, women being sold at sixty sex places. Okay,
fifty to sixty thousands Ukrainians missing children, women, It's unbelievable. Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
No, Look, Dan, you're expressing many unpleasant truths. The media
will never mention any of this. But everything what you're
saying is true. Ukraine for the last what do you
want to say, twenty twenty five years at a minimum,
has been a globalist playground. Really, what the country is,
I'm not trying to diminish it, I'm not. Look, I
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respect Ukrainian independence, I respect Ukrainian sovereignty. I'm not saying
it's a province of Russia. Don't get me wrong, but
I'm just telling you it is. So it's one of
the most corrupt countries in the world. And the way
those politicians have run that country into the ground, They've
pillaged it, they've plunged, they have turned Ukraine into one
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of the biggest laundering schemes in human history, and that's
what it is. It's there to launder globalist money. And
the globalists have I mean, they have raped Ukraine. They've
raped its wealth, its minerals, its people, and everybody in
Ukraine is for sale. The politic you think, Look, it's
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very corrupt in Russia. I'm not saying it's corrupt, but men,
nothing beats Ukraine. Everything is for sale. Everybody is for sale.
And that's why. If you notice when rand Paul just
asked for somebody to keep an accounting of the money
that we sent, just somebody, just can we just know
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where the money went? They almost ran them out of
Congress now I'm telling you whatever, the actual figure is
ten twelve fifteen billion that we end up quote unquote
selling to Ukraine, meaning NATO buys it and then they
give it to Ukraine. We're lucky if half actually makes
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it to the front lines. So what do they do
with the other weapons, Jeff? They sell it on the
international black market. They've been doing it for the last
three years of the war. It ends up in the Congo,
it ends up something. I mean, I know they've made
peace now, but a couple of years ago they were
finding weapons that we sent to Ukraine. It ends up
in the Congo, it ends up in Africa, it ends
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up in places all over the world. So half for
the men fighting on the front lines and then half
for the greedy politicians who then sell. And we're going
to be selling them now our best hardware. I mean,
this is the cream of the cream. They're gonna get
our best missiles, our best interceptors, our best long range missiles.
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I mean they're not getting the secondhand stuff. They're getting
the best stuff. So yeah, that's going to catch you
top dollar on the black market. So what I'm saying
is it's just more money down a rat hole, you know.
And you're right. Look, our politicians orchestrated a coup and
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that's what overthrew the government in Ukraine. That's what God
has deeply involved. And everybody made money. Everybody made bank,
as they say, Joe Biden up to his eyeballs in Ukraine.
Money through his crime family, John Kerry, Jean Frecoi lining
his pockets, mcmaniac lining his pockets, Lindsey Graham lining his pockets,
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the bushes lining their pockets. I could run, the Pelosi's
lining their pockets so it was a massive grift and
what they'd love to do, And this is what nobody
ever tells anybody, what's the globalist endgame when it comes
to Russia. They go overthrow Putin, overthrow Putin, okay, and
what comes after Putin? They want another Zelenski type. What
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they really want is Boris Yelsin. They want to return
to the Yeltsin years of the nineteen nineties when they
freaking pillaged Russia. I mean Yelsin was corrupt to the bone.
They bought them like a ten dollars street walker, and
then they just raped Russia's resources. They raped that country.
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So they want to return to what they had in
the nineteen nineties because Russia is much bigger than Ukraine,
much wealthier in terms of resources and minerals than Ukraine.
So Ukraine is like a little Russia for them, but
the big pie is Mother Russia. So you know that's
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what they ultimately want. And to me, if we go
down that road, it's going to be a disaster because
Russia's got nuclear weapons everywhere. You don't want an unstabled,
he stabilized Russia, like our elites don't think beyond their nose.
Because they're so damn greedy. And so I understand Trump.
(35:11):
His instincts are good, his intentions are well, you know,
he's well intentioned. Obviously he wants the fighting to end.
But you know, sometimes, look, it's war. One side wins,
one side loses, that's life. Russia is winning the war.
Let Russia win the war. And winning the war doesn't
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mean they take all of Ukraine. Right, What winning the
war means is they smash the Ukraine in eastern Ukraine,
Ukraine's armed forces. Putin realizes, now, no, if we don't
settle for peace, they're gonna come for Kiev, the capital.
So okay, here it is. I'm gonna sign off on it.
You get eastern Ukraine. Check crimea check, we won't go
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into NATO. Check, will be military neutral. Check, there'll never
be any nuclear missiles on Ukrainian soil.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Check.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Now, Ukraine still keeps about eighty percent of its territory.
Russia and Putin have said repeatedly, you guys want to
go into the European Union, go, hey, we don't give
a damn, we don't care. Knock ourselves out. If the
Europeans want you, that's up to them. But go ahead.
So Ukraine can still go into EU, it can still
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orient itself to the West politically, economically, culturally. I mean,
there's an obvious settlement here to be made, but they
don't want to make the settlement. Now, look, they keep
making more money off of this war. Again, that's the
dirty secret. War is good business. Now. All the big
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defense contractors here, Look, I mean they're plushed with orders
now they are forgiving. They're flush with orders. Now, they're
plush with cash. They are flush with orders. Now this
is going to be a massive buy. So the military
industrial complex they get paid. Now you've got the Germans
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making money off of this, You've got the French making money,
You've got the Dutch making money. So it's not just
our military industrial complex, now Europe's military industrial complex. They're
getting themselves greased as well. So what's the incentive keep
this thing going? And again, how many more Russians die,
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how many more Ukrainians die?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Who cares?
Speaker 1 (37:44):
I'm telling you, these people are sick.
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number. Okay, let me ask all of you.
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selling Patriot missiles to NATO and other words, and then
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Coup report, kuh and is in national Er at the
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Kuner Report. To me, I think it's pretty obvious he's
making he's putting Ukraine first. And I'm not saying this
as a dig against the president. You know how much
I love President Trump and I agree with him, you
know what is it ninety nine percent of the time.
But you know, he's openly saying Ukraine's on the ropes
and I don't want to see Ukraine fall. And Putin
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is hammering, as he put it, hammering the hell out
of Ukraine. And I'm not going to see Zelenski and
his government collapse and Russian troops to have a you know,
a massive military victory, not on my watch. So I'm
going to bolster Ukraine so that eventually Putin in about
you know, a month or two, will be forced to
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sue and come to the negotiating table, agree to a ceasefire,
and agree to some kind of a negotiated settlement. So
the purpose of sending them all these weapons, the purpose
of the sanctions and the tariffs, is to prop up
and bolster Ukraine to eventually break Putin so they both
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sides come to a peace table and sign an agreement.
So I think it's obvious to me it's Ukraine first. Now,
maybe in the long term an end to the war
is America first, but clearly in the short to midterm
this is Ukraine first all the way. But that's me
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I want to hear from you. Six one seven two six,
six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay, very quickly,
this is from Larry on messenger Jeff, I have a
slight disagreement with Barbara the previous caller. Putin may be
a bully, but Zelensky is that obnoxious midget in the
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group that as a couple of big friends behind him,
and he keeps antagonizing the bully. Eventually the antagonizer gets
caught alone with the bully, and that's where we are.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I think there's no question Zelensky's been poking Russia, you know,
in the eye, over and over and over and over
and over again. And now I mean he's I mean,
you know, everyone's talking about a knockout blow. Trump is
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worried now that Putin may deliver Zelenski the knockout blow.
Hence the weapons sales, the sanctions, and the tariffs. So
Zelensky was spoiling for a fight, and Putin gave him
one six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty
eight agree, disagree. Chris in the Freedom State, Florida. Thanks
(03:55):
for holding Chris, and welcome. Good morning, Hi Chris.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
How are you doing.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
How are you I'm doing okay, I'm in the Freedom shape.
That's a blessing. But listen, everybody seems to forget that
just didn't just start. Zulinski hasn't always been a politician.
He was in he was installed by the c i A.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
He was the he was an actor in a very
popular program called Servant of the People.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
And he went from.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Being a a failed comedian into.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Being an actor into being the president. And if we,
if we will.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Remember what was going on in Ukraine at the time
when he was installed, there was another dictator and that's
what Jolensky is. You said he was essentially a dictator,
but no, he is a dictator and he what what
platform did you run on? He ran on anti corruption
platform when he was just as corrupt.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Long story, short is, we had corrupt politicians involved, already
involved in Ukraine. And what happens when our side starts
to figure out what was going on in Ukraine? The
next thing you know, fear's a war? Who started it? Biden?
I wrote a long article and I tagged you in it.
(05:23):
I always tag you in Facebook articles.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
When I tagged the president, vice president and a lot
of other people, Please look out for that.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Long story, short is, I wrote a long article in
Facebook about why we were it to Ukraine? What better
way if you're a criminal, how are you going to
destroy all that corrupt information in another country that you're
involved in? Hello, start a war and let the enemy
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destroy all that information. Just what we don't have anymore.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
We don't have any more information on all the corruption
our policy, sois were involved in?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
This is what's going on.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Oh, you're dead on. Look, Chris, you're on fire. By
the way, you're absolutely dead on. This goes all the
way back to twenty fourteen where the Obama regime and
Joe Biden, who was Obama's point man on Ukraine, along
with John McCain, Lindsey Graham, the whole crew orchestrated a
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CIA coup to overthrow a democratically elected Ukrainian president. He
was pro Russian, his name was Yanukovich, but he was
democratically elected and they orchestrated that overthrow in Maidan Square,
which is where it began. That's why it's called the
Maidan Revolution. And at my don the CIA overthrew the
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democratically elected leader. That's when Putin moved to seize Crimea
in parts of eastern Ukraine. Six one, seven, two sixty
eight sixty eight is the number. Okay, listen now to
Trump yesterday in the Oval Office, after he made his
big announcement that we're going to be selling to Ukraine
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through NATO. NATO is going to buy it or the
European countries in NATO are going to buy our weapons
and then distribute them and arm Ukraine along with these
Trump's plan within fifty days, should Putin not declare a
ceasefire or agree to a ceasefire, then we will impose
a crushing one hundred percent tariff, not just Russia, but
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on what are called secondary tariffs other countries that do
business with Russia, especially if they buy Russian oil and
natural gas. Listen now to Trump with NATO Secretary General
Mark Root saying that he's dealing with a very hard
man in Vladimir Putin, and that he's fooled every US president,
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from Bill Clinton to George W. Bush to Barack Obama
to Joe Biden. He says, but he's not fooling me.
And according to Trump, Putin's economy is going to implode,
the Russians are going to be forced to go to
the peace table. He is going to break Putin over
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the next three to four months. Roll cut three A Mike.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
I don't want to say he's an assassin, but he's
a tough guy. It's been proven over the years he's
fooled a lot of people. He fooled Bush. He fooled
a lot of people. He fooled Clinton, Bush, Obama, Biden
needed for me. But what I do say is that
at a certain point, you know, ultimately talk doesn't talk.
It's got to be action, it's got to be results.
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And I hope he does It's it's potentially such a
great country to be wasting so many people on this
and the money, and look at what's happened to his economy,
look at what's happened.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
So and fifty days will be hits, very hard.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
I mean, look, I hope he I hope he's gonna
do it. He knows the deal, he knows what a
fair deal is, if there is such a thing as
a fair deal. They can know there's no winners here.
This is a loser. This is a loser.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So you really understand now Trump's thinking. In other words,
he's saying, look, no one's going to really win this war.
There's there's only losers now. In other words, the loss
of human life, how much you've expended in blood and treasure,
and the damage to Russia's economy, especially Ukraine's economy and infrastructure,
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and of course the massive loss in human life. He says, look,
there's no winner here now. Now, I think that's where
Putin disagrees with Trump. He thinks, no, we're gonna we're
gonna force Zolensky to sign surrender. He's going to force this,
he's gonna sue for peace. We're gonna win this on
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the battlefield, and then I can go back to my
people and justify the last three and a half years.
So I think that's where he and Trump don't see
eye to eye. Now one final point, and then I
want to go to the phone lines. What I this
is where I look. This is where I think Trump,
how do I say this? He's trying to push for
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something that ultimately he doesn't have control over. He can
put all the pressure in the world on Putin, he
can put all the pressure in the world on Zelensky.
He can send all the weapons he wants to Ukraine,
he can impose all the sanctions that he wants. But
in the end, if the Russian people are willing to
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keep fighting and the Zelenski regime is determined to keep fighting,
and Putin is not willing to settle for anything less
than total victory on the battlefield, then there's really nothing
you can do. I mean, unless you want to, you know,
I use the US military, and then that's a different story.
It's a different cattle of fish. So what I'm saying is, look,
(11:12):
I understand his intentions. Of course they're very noble, and
I share them. Who doesn't want the fighting to stop?
I want the fighting to stop. What sane person doesn't
want the fighting to end. But the problem now is
if two sides don't want to end the fighting, then
there's nothing much you can do. And now you see
(11:35):
this is the problem if you go down the road
of sanctions in tariffs A. I don't think they're going
to ultimately work, but let that go. Okay, we can
agree to disagree. You're no longer in neutral arbiter. See
now that we're arming Ukraine, now that we're sending them
all these weapons, selling them all these weapons, and we're
(11:56):
now threatening with sanctions, and say we go ahead with
the sanctions. Well, how are you now in neutral arbiter?
You're effectively on the side of Ukraine. You're a co belligerent,
You're fighting a proxy war against the Russians. So this
is going to hurt Trump's ability, even if he wants
(12:17):
to be the peacemaker and make a negotiated settlement. And
so look, I notice is a very unpopular position with
the elites. And I know that the Libs hate this,
and then neo conservatives hate this. But I'm you know,
everyone's like, you know, well, Putin won't go to the
peace table. Putin's bombing Ukrainian cities. Civilians are dying, which
(12:41):
is horrible, don't get me wrong, But it's war. What
do you think happens in war? Civilians die. That's just
a fact. So I'm looking at this and I'm like, okay,
but how is this any of our business? I mean,
I get it from a humanitarian point of view, and look,
you did your best, You did everything you possibly could.
(13:03):
But if Zelensky doesn't want to see reason and he doesn't,
and Putin doesn't want to see reason and he doesn't,
what are you gonna do? Hold a gun to their
heads and force him to make peace. So now we're
gonna get more and more enmeshed and involved in a vicious,
savage war that is ultimately none of our business and
(13:24):
where we don't have a clear national interest at stake. Again,
I go back to this argument, Russia is not a
member of NATO. Ukraine is not a member of NATO,
So why is NATO getting involved and why are we
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willing to risk World War three to get involved while
we have an invasion here? And to me, this is
the checkmate argument as far as I'm concerned. Look, you know,
let's sober up and get out of the bar, everybody.
We're barely getting three thousand deportations a day. We're lucky
(14:05):
if we get a couple million illegals out after Trump's
term is over. Biden brought in fifteen to twenty million.
We're lucky if we get two to three, maybe four
million out. ICE is being blocked at every turn. They're
now being fired upon. LA is almost in full insurrection.
(14:28):
You've got another rogue judge who just imposed a restraining
order preventing ICE from making arrests in Los Angeles. So
we've got our own invasion to deal with, and now
we're going to get involved as we have been for
the last three and a half years, but now again
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under Trump, in a conflict that's thousands of miles away
that it's been its borderland between Russia and Ukraine, that
the two sides that been fighting about for over a
thousand years. Why is every conflict our business? I always
find this incredible. You know, people will call in and say, well,
(15:11):
you know, this is happening in Asia, this is happening
in the Middle East, this is happening in Africa, this
is happening in Eastern Europe. We've got to do something.
I'm like, why, I mean, unless it directly bears upon us.
Why who died and made us the world's policeman? Who
died and said this is the new Roman empire where
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we have to impose a Pax Americana as the Romans
imposed a Pax Romania on the world. We're not an empire.
We're a republic and we're losing our republic. Let's focus
on the massive problems here at home. So to me,
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we need this involvement in Ukraine like we need a
hole in the head. It's not our concern, it's none
of our business. And let me suggest something. And this
is a problem I think Americans have in general, especially
progressives and liberals. I'm not accusing Trump of this, I'm
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saying just in general, six one seven two, six, six,
sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay, just before
I go to Hillary in Maryland. This is from Lisa
on messenger and this is what she messaged me, and
clearly she's got a very strong point of view and
that I think speaks for many of you in the audience. Jeff,
(16:43):
what I wanted to tell you all morning is that
you asked if we were disappointed in Trump regarding his
decision to sell weapons to Ukraine, and is this what
we voted for? My answer, I am not in caps disappointed.
I voted for Trump. I dedicated ten years of my
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life to him and the betterment of this country for
my children, which means I all in caps trust him.
With two exclamation points, we can walk and chew gum. Jeff,
It's still America. First. There are many people fighting for America.
He has always been a different kind of globalist. He
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wants peace and he believes he was saved to save
the world, and that is what saves this country. If
the world is a mess, America can never truly be
at peace. My opinion is trust. So let me throw
this log on the fire. Lisa Barbara, many others say, look,
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we voted for Trump. Part of it is like the
CEO of a company. You believe in him. His maturity,
his experience, his judgment, his wisdom, overall his policies. Let
Trump be Trump. Trust in Trump, and he's taken us
very far. He's often not right. No, he's often right,
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very rarely wrong. If he says he can squeeze Putin
and get him to the table and have him sign
a ceasefire or maybe even a negotiated settlement, let's trust
in Trump and give him a chance. What say you?
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
(18:40):
Hillary in Maryland, Thanks for holding Hillary, and welcome.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Thank you, Jeff.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
I have to say happy New Year because I don't
think I'll called all year.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
That's right, No, it's it's been a long time Hillary.
We missed you.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Oh well, you're so popular. I can't get through anyway.
You know, your monologu Glass before he went to commercial
break kind of stole pretty much all my thunder. But
I just wanted to say, you know, Lisa and Barbera
are just sick of CeNSE, and that you know Lisa
is saying trust Trump. It's like, well, what am I
not supposed to believe my lying eyes? I mean what
(19:15):
I was going to say a long time ago. I
guess I don't have to repeat. It was like, how
is this any of our business? You know, we seem
to forget what Trump promised. And I'm not talking just
about in this last cycle book, all that we've gone
back to sixteen. He never said he was a globalist.
Now Lisa is saying that he's a globalist. He always
said he was a nationalist. That's why we voted for him,
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you know. And it's like, how is this any of
our business? And between this that and Epstein thing, I mean,
aren't you tired? Aren't you tired of voting and getting
the exact same thing no matter who you vote for.
I mean, how is this really any different than when
Biden was doing Biden was sending Ukraine weapons, you know,
And you're right, I mean the billions that we were
sending them, we could be using to deport legal allience.
(19:57):
And you know, for all the hype you know that
Trump is deporting all these people, we're not deporting nearly enough.
And I think, you know, we've become so beaten down
as Americans. You know that anything that they do we
were just so thankful for. We're just grasping for the crumbs.
It's like being being impressed that somebody comes to your
you know, house for dinner and they don't eat with
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their hands. This should be going on on a daily basis.
I mean, you don't get credit for doing something you
should be doing in general anyway. So, I mean, you know,
Trump lying about the Epstein thing. I mean, I see
a lot of these people that just still they just
will not open their eyes to what Trump's become. But
you know what, I'm with the guy. You know, I'm
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sick of being lied to. I did not vote for
this at all. I voted for America, not even America
first America only. You know, we have enough of our
own problems. We're in debt, and then this one of
your callers called in yesterday and talked about what's still
in this bill, and people are still still okay.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
With this guy.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
I mean, you know, if he was really responsible, he
wouldn't have signed that saying I mean there's so much cravit. Yeah,
he got what he wanted as far as what he wanted,
but what about all the other stuff that goes along
with it? Then more debt, more printing of the dollar,
we have less buying power. We're still in the same
economic problem. That we were before. I just don't understand
why people won't open up their eyes and admit, hey,
(21:17):
you know what I fell for it. I mean, the
guy lied to me everything.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
He said he would do.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
We're just getting the same old, same all. I just
don't understand it. I don't understand how people can be
so you know, almost like you know, they treat this
guy like he's Jesus Christ or something. You know, that's
the only one you should trust. You shouldn't trust a man,
and particularly not a politician, and maybe especially not Trump,
because I don't I can't remember anyone that made more
definitive promises than him and.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Just completely lied.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
I mean, really, what have we gotten that we voted for?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Seriously, Hillary, let me ask you this question, because a
lot of people are making this point, and I think
it's a very valid point that you hardly ever hear.
Ever almost forget the media or the establishment media, but
I mean, even on many so called conservative talk shows. Ultimately,
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who poses a greater threat to your freedoms, your liberties,
your safety, my freedoms, my liberties, my safety, that of
this entire audience and that of this country. Vladimir Putin
or the ruling class here in Washington, DC. It's not
Putin that's opened up our borders. It's our political leaders.
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It's not Putent that's preventing them from being deported on
massive numbers. It's our political leaders. It's not Putin that's
racked up a thirty seven trillion dollar national debt. It's
our political leaders. It's not Putin that's driving inflation through
the roof and printing the dollar. As you pointed out,
it's our political leaders. It's not Putin that's have this
(22:59):
crime that is getting Americans killed in cities all over
the country. It's our political leaders. It's not Putin that's
pushing critical race theory or DEI or transgenderism or all
of these sick ideologies here in the United States. It's
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our political leaders. It's not Putin that's you know, on
the verge of electing a communist in New York City
that is going to destroy one of the greatest cities
in America. It's you know, liberals, Democrats and the Democratic
Party and many of our political leaders. In other words,
what is the greater threat to us? Is it Vladimir Putin,
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whatever you think about the guy, or is it the
swamp in Washington.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
What say you, Well, I think that instead of going
against Vladimir Putin, I mean I thought that's what another
thing we elected Trump for was to go to war
with the swamp and to end the corruption and to
clean it out. And you asked the question the other
day concerning BONDI like, who is she prosecuted?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Well?
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Who is?
Speaker 6 (24:08):
How has Trump really been instrumental in getting people in
there again? He just he doesn't hire the right people
getting people in there that are going to go to town.
You know, when Biden got in there, he didn't waste
any time. I know there were other people pulling the string,
but they got to work and trying to impose their
agendas pretty quick. I mean, what is it that Republicans
like every single time they just they missed opportunity after
(24:32):
miss opportunity, they shoot themselves in the foot And you
have to say, you know, no one is this stupid.
You know they're shilling for the other side. I mean,
We've got they're just controlled opposition. And I'm just tired
at this point in my life of voting every time Hope.
And you know, like like that one gal said, you know,
like fighting for Trump, you know, supporting him with everything
and then just getting the same old, same old. I mean,
(24:54):
I just I can't take it anymore. And he better
worry about what's going to happen in the midterms, because
I'm telling me something I should have tell them. In
the midterms, he's got to earn my they've got to
earn my vote, and they can't to say oh, And
I mean, I'm done with the whole thing. I'm done
with them.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Interesting. Interesting, Hillary, thank you very much for that call.
I really appreciate it. I'm far from done with Trump.
I think he's done a very good job as president.
I agree he could do more. He could always do more,
but I think much of what he's done the last
six months has been absolutely spectacular. Of course, I don't
(25:29):
agree with everything, but you know, remember he's working with Ryan.
I'm not excusing it. I'm just explaining it. You know,
he's got razor thin majorities in the House, razor thin
majorities in the Senate. He's got to deal with, you know,
Rhinos and establishment Republicans. So you know, Trump would off
I think if you were here, he'd say, I hear you, Hillary,
(25:51):
You're a purist, and I respect that but don't let
the perfect be the enemy of the good. And I'm
doing the best I can with what I have. You
know the expression, you go to war with the army
you have, not the army you wish you have. But no,
look Epstein in particular, I'm gonna be honest. I've heard
a lot of people now saying I'm demoralized. Jeff, I'm
(26:13):
really demoralized. I don't know if I'm gonna come out
for the midterms, so anyway, but look, I just want
to stick to Ukraine now for a second. Yeah, I
mean I've asked this question many times. You know, would
I live under what I like to live under Putin?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Of course not. If I was living in Russia. Would
I vote for him, of course I wouldn't vote for him.
But I'm not in Russia. I'm here. And who poses
the greatest threat to my freedom and my liberties and
my security and that of my family. It's the swamp.
It's not even close. It's the deep state. It's the swamp,
(26:53):
and it's the corrupt establishment. It's not Vladimir Putin. And
notice how the media just turns this guy into like
the boogeyman, and by the way, China poses a much
greater threat to US than Russia. I mean, there's no
question about it. Yet we're willing again to go to
(27:13):
war potentially with Russia. Like what's wrong with this picture?
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight agree, disagree?
Dan in New Hampshire, thanks for holding Dan and welcome.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yes, thank you, Jeff, Hi Dad, Hey, the enemy of
the people is China, the dirty corrupt globalist EU, NATO
and UN and the Washington DC sore and a Federal
Reserve Bank which is really a shelf bank for central
banking controlled bedrool russild and Jeff. You've talked about this,
(27:52):
You've laid it out. People need to listen when you're talking.
Sometimes the treaty in nineteen ninety one, it's Clintons. They
they've been moving. Who in two thousand and four signed
off on NATO enlargement. Okay, so he's involved. And in
ninety nine when he enlarge in Bush Junior two thousand
(28:16):
and four, in two thousand and seven, so it's his
war two and Obama two thousand and eight, twenty fourteen,
and you got Victoria Nolan who has a fringerprints all
over it with her husband Roder Kagan. And when Anthony
Blincoln in January in December went to it was also
(28:36):
because of Biden and the puppet and Obama when they
went to they wanted to bring in Ukraine into NATO.
But also when Blincoln and December and January went there
to Ukraine because you wanted to put missiles in the Ukraine.
So they're behind it. And you look at the Chancellor Germany,
(28:58):
Chancellor Merged, he's a the German Nazis as Battalian Neo
Nazi soldiers fighting Russians. Okay, that's what's going on. And
on top of it, you gotta look at we shouldn't
be selling we shouldn't be selling military weapons to US
(29:19):
NATO's who are enemies who are popping up the lunch.
This war would be over if they're the ones who's
been popping it up. They want to extend this war
because they need more time, using ENGOs to wash the
money through England banks, through shell companies, through globalis and
corrupt poisons, destroying our country. The Bidens, the Bushes, Obama,
(29:42):
Chamy's Counted, Gore McConnell, Humor McCarthy, Porosi, Romney, Terry Graham, Ships,
French hip, Jeffreys, corn Warren Raskin, pens Omark and even McCain. Okay,
and on top of it, you got in deluxe Ukraine.
(30:05):
You have baby being killed for audience, children being sold
for pedophilia, women being sold at sixty sex places. Okay,
fifty to sixty thousands Ukrainians missing children, women, It's unbelievable. Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
No, Look, Dan, you're expressing many unpleasant truths. The media
will never mention any of this. But everything what you're
saying is true. Ukraine for the last what do you
want to say, twenty twenty five years at a minimum,
has been a globalist playground. Really, what the country is,
I'm not trying to diminish it, I'm not. Look, I
(30:42):
respect Ukrainian independence, I respect Ukrainian sovereignty. I'm not saying
it's a province of Russia. Don't get me wrong, but
I'm just telling you it is. So it's one of
the most corrupt countries in the world. And the way
those politicians have run that country into the ground, They've
pillaged it, they've plunged, they have turned Ukraine into one
(31:03):
of the biggest laundering schemes in human history, and that's
what it is. It's there to launder globalist money. And
the globalists have I mean, they have raped Ukraine. They've
raped its wealth, its minerals, its people, and everybody in
Ukraine is for sale. The politic you think, Look, it's
(31:25):
very corrupt in Russia. I'm not saying it's corrupt, but men,
nothing beats Ukraine. Everything is for sale. Everybody is for sale.
And that's why. If you notice when rand Paul just
asked for somebody to keep an accounting of the money
that we sent, just somebody, just can we just know
(31:46):
where the money went? They almost ran them out of
Congress now I'm telling you whatever, the actual figure is
ten twelve fifteen billion that we end up quote unquote
selling to Ukraine, meaning NATO buys it and then they
give it to Ukraine. We're lucky if half actually makes
(32:07):
it to the front lines. So what do they do
with the other weapons, Jeff? They sell it on the
international black market. They've been doing it for the last
three years of the war. It ends up in the Congo,
it ends up something. I mean, I know they've made
peace now, but a couple of years ago they were
finding weapons that we sent to Ukraine. It ends up
in the Congo, it ends up in Africa, it ends
(32:29):
up in places all over the world. So half for
the men fighting on the front lines and then half
for the greedy politicians who then sell. And we're going
to be selling them now our best hardware. I mean,
this is the cream of the cream. They're gonna get
our best missiles, our best interceptors, our best long range missiles.
(32:55):
I mean they're not getting the secondhand stuff. They're getting
the best stuff. So yeah, that's going to catch you
top dollar on the black market. So what I'm saying
is it's just more money down a rat hole, you know.
And you're right. Look, our politicians orchestrated a coup and
(33:17):
that's what overthrew the government in Ukraine. That's what God
has deeply involved. And everybody made money. Everybody made bank,
as they say, Joe Biden up to his eyeballs in Ukraine.
Money through his crime family, John Kerry, Jean Frecoi lining
his pockets, mcmaniac lining his pockets, Lindsey Graham lining his pockets,
(33:39):
the bushes lining their pockets. I could run, the Pelosi's
lining their pockets so it was a massive grift and
what they'd love to do, And this is what nobody
ever tells anybody, what's the globalist endgame when it comes
to Russia. They go overthrow Putin, overthrow Putin, okay, and
what comes after Putin? They want another Zelenski type. What
(34:02):
they really want is Boris Yelsin. They want to return
to the Yeltsin years of the nineteen nineties when they
freaking pillaged Russia. I mean Yelsin was corrupt to the bone.
They bought them like a ten dollars street walker, and
then they just raped Russia's resources. They raped that country.
(34:25):
So they want to return to what they had in
the nineteen nineties because Russia is much bigger than Ukraine,
much wealthier in terms of resources and minerals than Ukraine.
So Ukraine is like a little Russia for them, but
the big pie is Mother Russia. So you know that's
(34:46):
what they ultimately want. And to me, if we go
down that road, it's going to be a disaster because
Russia's got nuclear weapons everywhere. You don't want an unstabled,
he stabilized Russia, like our elites don't think beyond their nose.
Because they're so damn greedy. And so I understand Trump.
(35:11):
His instincts are good, his intentions are well, you know,
he's well intentioned. Obviously he wants the fighting to end.
But you know, sometimes, look, it's war. One side wins,
one side loses, that's life. Russia is winning the war.
Let Russia win the war. And winning the war doesn't
(35:33):
mean they take all of Ukraine. Right, What winning the
war means is they smash the Ukraine in eastern Ukraine,
Ukraine's armed forces. Putin realizes, now, no, if we don't
settle for peace, they're gonna come for Kiev, the capital.
So okay, here it is. I'm gonna sign off on it.
You get eastern Ukraine. Check crimea check, we won't go
(35:57):
into NATO. Check, will be military neutral. Check, there'll never
be any nuclear missiles on Ukrainian soil.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Check.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Now, Ukraine still keeps about eighty percent of its territory.
Russia and Putin have said repeatedly, you guys want to
go into the European Union, go, hey, we don't give
a damn, we don't care. Knock ourselves out. If the
Europeans want you, that's up to them. But go ahead.
So Ukraine can still go into EU, it can still
(36:31):
orient itself to the West politically, economically, culturally. I mean,
there's an obvious settlement here to be made, but they
don't want to make the settlement. Now, look, they keep
making more money off of this war. Again, that's the
dirty secret. War is good business. Now. All the big
(36:56):
defense contractors here, Look, I mean they're plushed with orders
now they are forgiving. They're flush with orders. Now, they're
plush with cash. They are flush with orders. Now this
is going to be a massive buy. So the military
industrial complex they get paid. Now you've got the Germans
(37:16):
making money off of this, You've got the French making money,
You've got the Dutch making money. So it's not just
our military industrial complex, now Europe's military industrial complex. They're
getting themselves greased as well. So what's the incentive keep
this thing going? And again, how many more Russians die,
(37:39):
how many more Ukrainians die?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Who cares?
Speaker 1 (37:44):
I'm telling you, these people are sick.
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