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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We can go bad.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
We're at tipping point.
Speaker 3 (00:02):
I don't know if people mind me saying that, but
I'm saying that we could go one way or the other,
and we're going to go the wrong way if we
keep taking in garbage into our country. Elan Omar is garbage.
She's garbage.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Her friends are garbage.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
These are people that work. These are people that say,
let's go, come on, let's make this place great. These
are people that do nothing but complain. They complain, and
from where they came from, they got nothing. You know,
if they came from paradise.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
And they said, this isn't paradise.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
But when they come from hell and they complain and
do nothing, but bitch, we don't want them in our country.
Let them go back to where they came from and
fix it.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Amen.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Amen, I know what he said is set off. I mean,
a firestorm is not even the word. They're they're going apoplectic.
Left is going nuts. CNN, MS Now or whatever, MS
Today or MS tomorrow or MS yesterday or whatever they're
calling themselves. The New York Times, the Washington Post, the
Boston Globe. I think the media in this state is
(01:13):
gonna People are going to start dying of heart attacks.
These moonbats are losing their minds. And by the way,
on the emails that I'm getting in the texts, these
liberals are I mean, they're they're they want my head,
they want to hang me for supporting Trump on this
A twenty one by the way, on the Great w
r KO, Jeff Cooner, Boston's bulldozer. Okay, so let me
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ask all of you, and I'm going to invite as
many liberals to call in as possible. I want to
hear from all of you. What did Trump say that
was wrong? Where is he factually wrong? You may not
like the term garbage, but what what elanomar? That's the best?
That that that's there. They're sending us their best. That's elanomar.
(02:00):
So I want to ask all of you. In the
wake now of the Afghan national that shot murdering one
and seriously wounding a second member of the West Virginia
National Guard, and now this massive scandal involving the Somali
community or many members of the Somali community in Minneapolis,
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where billions of dollars literally billions of dollars in massive
welfare fraud and abuse, and the money is now being
sent back to Somalia, literally into the hands of al Shabab,
an al Qaeda affiliate.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Is Trump right?
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Is this Somali community in general a net minus to
the United States? And this is the key question now,
and many countries in Europe are debating the exact same thing.
Are there certain immigrant groups, ethnic groups, whatever you want
(03:05):
to call him, I don't care, national groups whatever that
are just not in terms of big numbers, not the
kind of immigrants that we want. They don't assimilate their
customs and traditions and values, and frankly, religious practices are
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incompatible with America and especially with Western civilization. And they
don't have the work ethic, they don't have the self reliance,
they don't have the commitment that previous generations of immigrants had,
and that they're basically now a net minus.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Now Trump has.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Signed an order and he's now gonna bar at least
in the future. He is going to bar nationals from
nineteen countries from coming into the United States and being
allowed to get green cards or get citizenship and among them.
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And I just want to give you the list and
tell me if you agree. This is nineteen so far,
he may expand it to thirty, but it's so far
nineteen Afghanistan, Iran, Libya, Somalia, obviously Sudan, Yemen also included
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in that list, Burundi, Cuba, Laos, Sierra Leone, Pogo, Turkmenistan,
and Venezuela.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Agree disagree. I think we should.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Not allow or ban groups or p people from certain
countries that just cannot assimilate, refuse to assimilate, and are
ultimately a net drain and a net minus on a country.
We're not obligated to take in everybody from around the world.
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And I'm sorry, but if you've got welfare rates as
the Somali community does of ninety percent, and by the way,
that's not just in Minnesota, that's in Maine, that's in
communities all across the country, that's in France, that's in Denmark,
that's in the United Kingdom, and you have crime rates
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in those communities that again, this is statistically. This is
the Danish government saying this. This is the British government
saying this. These are stats Now that even Minnesota, their
local and state stats crime stats have to concede are
eight nine, ten times that of the native poppy. Why
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do we want them? Why do we want them? Trump
is right, immigrants are supposed to want to come here
and make us better and help contribute, and say, we're
here all you know, gangbusters, We're ready to go.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Let's go.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Let's roll up our sleeves and let's work our rear
ends off and achieve the American dream instead of just
whine and complain and bitch and moan and then steal
and commit fraud and put everybody up on welfare and
still complain while you're on welfare. I'm sorry, but no,
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there are certain groups I'm sorry that, for whatever reason,
just are not good quality immigrants. And I think the
Somali community in particular in Minnesota has been a pathetic disappointment. Okay,
let me ask all of you. It is the Kooner
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Country Pole Question of the Day sponsored by Mario's Mario's
Quality Roofing, Siding and Windows. In regard to the Somali
fraud ring in Minnesota. Was Governor Tim Waltz tampon Tim
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or wackle Waltz as Trump likes to call him as well?
Was he criminally stupid or was he complicit? In other words,
did all this occur under his nose? And he is
just unbelievably incompetent and an idiot and just you know, duh,
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he just can't see what's going on around him. Or
was he complicit himself he knew and he didn't care,
or he knew and he deliberately turned a blind eye,
or he knew and maybe he's even involved himself. I mean,
we're gonna find out there's now a massive Treasury Secretary
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Scott Bessant is now launching a massive investigation into this
massive fraud and he's looking at the funding to Al
Shabab and Somalia and Governor Tim Waltz and his role
in all of this. I mean, this is a scandal
that is mushrooming and mushrooming and mushrooming. So is it
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a stupidity b complicity? Was he stupid or was he complicit?
I think he was complicit. I think it's pretty obvious. Nobody,
not even Waltz, is that stupid. But that's me I
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Er at the Kooner Report. Okay, just very quick, one
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other small point, and then I want to go right
to the phone lines. When Sandy, you know, Sandy and
I and Mike, we always do a pre show production meeting,
and Sandy does a great job with the clips, and
so does Mike.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
They work together as a team.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
And so when we went through this particular cut that
I've played now twice about Trump preferring to Lano Maarra's
garbage many in the Somali community in Minnesota as quote
unquote garbage, and how all they do is complain and
complain and complain, and if they came from paradise, well, okay,
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I can maybe see it, but they come from a hellhole.
And I said to Sandy, I said, you know, cause
she made a brilliant point. I said, you know, Sandy,
I know it's politically very incorrect what Trump said, but
he's a thousand percent correct. It's very true. And I
thought Sandy made a really perceptive point. She said, look, Jeff,
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there are just certain groups, certain whatever immigrant groups, national groups,
ethnic groups, whatever you want to call them. Take to
Somali's that have been so traumatized and live in such
an abusive, violent environment generation after generation after generation that
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it's almost deeply marinated in their brain. It's almost like
in their DNA from you know, successive generations of this
kind of trauma and violence and terror and abuse, and
you know, like I said, the law of the jungle,
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eat or be eaten, kill or be killed, because it's
pure anarchy and lawlessness, that it's almost becomes part of
their like part of their DNA. And it doesn't matter
if you pull them out of that environment and put
them in a much much better place, because in their mind,
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that's all they know is that terror and that trauma.
That negativity becomes so ingrained in them, it's all they know.
It's all they've ever known, it's all they expect, it's
all they see, it's all they will ever see. And
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it's very sad, it's very tragic, actually it's heartbreaking. But
as Sandy put it, that's the law that they drew.
I mean, with all due respect, that's not our problem
because there's many places around the world like that. It's
not just unique to Somonia. That's just the law that
they drew. And it's not up to us to take
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them in, send them back home, and if they can,
let them fix and rebuild their homeland.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And if they can't, that's on them. It's not on.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Us, Meaning we don't have an obligation, moral, legal, political,
whatever to take in every group from around the world,
even though we know it's going to hurt and drain
and damage and undermine our country. So let me say it.
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The Somali community in Minnesota. And I know this because
I was in Minnesota when I adopted my Minnesota Miracle Ashton,
So I saw this firsthand. And this was thirteen years
ago and it's gotten much worse than the last thirteen years.
I'm sorry. They're not like the Haitians.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
They're not.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
They're not like the Japanese or the Chinese, or the
Koreans or the Vietnamese. If I'm leaving out groups, I
just can't name all of them. They're not like the
Italians and the Irish, and the Poles and the Jews,
and I could go on and on, or the Indians
from India where you say no no, or say Arab
Americans you see it from Egypt and Christians from Lebanon
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and Syria. No, No, they add value, no question, hard working, successful, mobile,
They assimilate, they learn the language. They want to assimilate.
They're not here to take. They're here to give. They
want to better themselves and better their children. They're not
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here to milk, you know, milk us white and live
off the fat of the land and abuse us and
take advantage of us. And they're grateful to be here.
They're proud to be Americans. They appreciate what they have here.
They're grateful to be here. You've got some groups like
the Somalis, it doesn't matter where you You can put
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them in heaven. As Sandy said, you can literally put
him in heaven and they'll complain. Not everyone. Obviously, people
are individuals. But I'm saying collectively as a group. When
you've got them in society after society after country and
country and country eighty five ninety ninety two percent welfare
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rates and crime rates that are much higher than any
other group.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
And by the way, some of those groups are black.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
It's not a race thing. So I don't want to
hear these dumb liberals racist. You're an idiot you do
know what you're talking about, You don't. Haitians have a
much lower crime rate. Haitians have a much more economically
successful They're much more mobile. Many immigrants from the Caribbean,
same thing. I could go on and on. Nigerians. One
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of the most successful immigrant groups in America, you can
look it up are Nigerians, generally Nigerian Christians.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
So this is not a race thing.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
There's something about the Somali culture, whatever it may be,
in the work, and they're not making Minnesota better. I'm
telling you, they're making Minnesota worse? Am I wrong? Six
one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight? Okay, Mike,
(15:41):
Maestro Mike, where do you want me to go to?
Steve and Quinsy. Thanks for holding Steve and welcome.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
Good morning, Jeff, Thank you for taking my call. On
Happy holidays to you and your family.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Thank you, Thank you, Steve.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
Here you walk. I got a couple of points to make.
So the first question is is garbage you know the
right word to say. I mean, listen, uh when something's factual.
I mean, look at what's at stake all this fraud
in Minnesota. Right now. We know we have to go
through the judicial system and so forth. But the reality
is money's coming in, money's going out. It's not your money,
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and people are struggling at home to pay their electricity
bill and gas bill, and that's kind of frustrating. So yeah,
I'm I have no problem with Trump saying the word
garbage and going back to Sandy's point, politically correct. I'm
from the mindset, I shoot from the hip. I'm going
to tell you like it is. And I work in
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a professional environment and I want my senior managers to
talk to me with some comfort. Bring down the walls,
bring down the suits, as they say, and let's be
comfortable with one another. And what Trump was talking about
was Okay, I'm biased, I'm on the right side.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
He was not.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
He was truthful. So that's number one. Number two. I
know you have access to the internet. Look up the
cartoon droopy droopy cartoon dog. That's Tim Watz for you, right.
So you know I'm going to I'm gonna give you
some time back and talk with your audience. And I
appreciate you taking my call.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Well, I appreciate your call, Steve. Look, let me ask
all of you. The media is savaging Trump over this,
that he shouldn't have called uh elan o'mar and some
you know, members of the Somali community garbage that this
is quote unquote racist, disparaging, escapegoating them. Look, when my
mother would talk about thieves, criminals, she would say, that's garbage.
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I mean, it was a loose way of saying, like
they're undesirables. You don't you know, they're they're bad people,
they're garbage.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
You know.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
Sandy just made another very good point to me off air.
She said, you know, have you noticed she goes, really,
do you know anybody anybody who's ever said, boy, I
gotta go to Somalia. You know, I just want to
visit Somalia. I want to see Somalia, like it's on
my bucket list. Like, no, you don't understand that I've
got to see Somalia before I drop dead. I've never
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heard of it. I've never heard of that. I mean,
I've heard of people say I gotta go to Egypt,
I gotta go to Israel. I gotta go to Ireland
or Italy or take your pick whatever, Japan or there's
a million, you know, Mexico, whatever, there's a ton of countries.
But you know, no I gotta do Somalia, Somalia, And
then Sandy made the point can you even fly a
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plane there? In other words, like do they even have
a functioning airport, you know, Mogadishu. Honestly, I don't even
think they have a functioning airport.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
That's Trump's point.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
You don't have a functioning government, you don't have a
functioning airport, you don't have a functioning civil society, you
don't have a funking military, you don't have a functioning police.
You've got nothing. And you come here and you run
us down, and you bad mouthed us, and somehow what
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America is just not not just not quite up to
our standards by get lost, blank off, go back to Somalia.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
He's completely right. Bye, we don't Hey, we don't need listen,
you need us, We don't need you. Am I wrong?
Rich In Natick, thanks for holding rich and welcome.
Speaker 8 (19:41):
Good morning, Jeff. You just ruined my vacation plans for
next summer.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
I thought I was going to the land of some
alli age.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
I thought that's where the expert.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Rich what do you think?
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Did Trump go too far and calling them, you know,
calling the OMAR and many members of the Somali community
in Minnesota garbage.
Speaker 8 (20:22):
I mean, you've heard the phrase the truth hurts. You know,
I'm tired of all the political correctness. You know, people
just got to speak their mind, you know, whether it
hurts somebody's films or not, too bad, deal with it,
you know. But when he said call the garbage, I
was I was getting that picture of Trump in the
garbage truck during his last for elector man.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Rich Rich he doesn't want Now He's going to freeze immigration,
all immigration from nineteen countries.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
He may even go up to thirty.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
And Somalia is on that list of nineteen. I mean
I read the whole list. I don't want to go
over it again. I mean some of them are pretty obvious.
You know Iran, you know Yemen where the Whosies are
running that place, and they've got Islamic terrorists all over,
and he's you know, one after another.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Is he right?
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Should there be certain countries we just don't allow immigration
from those countries?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
What say? You?
Speaker 8 (21:27):
Absolutely?
Speaker 7 (21:28):
Because you can see it a lot of these people
they don't want to assimilate, you know, they just want
to come here and milk the cow. And they lack
Gratitude is what it boils down to. You know, when
you have gratitude, your focus is I'm grateful for what
I have. These people sit around complaining about what they
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don't have and trying to tear us down. You know,
if these you know, eighty eight percent of the Somalians,
they're on some sort of you know, there's a ward
of the state, on some sort of welfare or what
have you. You know, I hear the Caribbeans is looking
for boat drivers to deliver drugs to America. So you know,
if they're looked at her a job there you.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Go, Rich, Rich, thank you very much for that call.
My friend Mags in New Hampshire. Thanks for holding Mags
and welcome.
Speaker 9 (22:25):
I'd always Jeff, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
My pleasure, my family and Sandy and Mike.
Speaker 9 (22:31):
Hey, you know what the Somali's ruined Lewiston, Maine over
twenty years ago. They've sucked off Maine for years and
years and years. They're disgusting people. Garbage is too good
of a word for them to be honest with you. Okay,
when you see somebody like elon Omar illegally, illegally came
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to our countries, sounds like, Okay, why is she still here?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Then?
Speaker 9 (22:57):
Why is she being allowed to stay here? She goes
against our country, goes against everything that we stand for,
and tells people that she can't stand this place. She
wants to change it to be like Somali or whatever
she wants it to be. I don't know, okay, but
they're not welcome here anymore. And we should have shut
all these countries off years ago from coming here. I
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don't understand why we've allowed this for so many years,
for them to just suck us thrive, because that's exactly
what's happening. I have great nieces and nephews that i'd
like to see have a great life like what I
was allowed to have in the United States of America.
And now every day it seems like we're fighting and
fighting for our country within our country, which is even sicker.
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To be honest with you, Jeff, we have people that
are just so stupid that live in this country that
they think that calling Somali's garbage is awful and oh
my god, that's terrible. You're a racists.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Know we're not.
Speaker 9 (23:53):
We're speaking the truth. These people have done nothing for
our country.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
Look it up.
Speaker 9 (23:58):
Watch it. You can see that. It's disgusting and it's
old to me, to be honest with you, and I
want it stopped because I want to have a good
life for the rest of my life.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Also, Jet Max, I'm just curious, why do you think,
I mean, the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Fray, he's a
moonbat Democrat. He's going crazy. This is singling out the
Somali community, This escapegoating.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
You know, this is outrageous.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
You've got Tim Waltz that more on Temp on Tim
saying that you know, Trump is smearing to Somali's This
is racism at its worst. Why can't we just be
frank and honest that when you have certain groups that
are eighty eight eighty five ninety ninety two percent on
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freaking welfare, that have roving gangs. You take Minneapolis, that
people are afraid to go to the mall, are afraid
to leave their homes at night, People's cars are being
carjacked all the time. You've got crime rates exploding through
the roof. I mean, you've got literally, you've got them
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scamming billions of dollars from taxpayers and they're laughing in
our face. And when somebody says, we don't need people
like this in our country. He's the bad guy. Like,
how did we get to this point? Why are liberals
and Democrats honestly so afraid of the truth? Do you,
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I mean, do you have a theory on that really, Mags?
You know, and by the way, they're not afraid to
confront racial issues or ethnic issues, because they'll tell you
that white people are racist all the time. They'll tell
you white people are evil all the time. And it
doesn't matter. The Irish are evil, the Italians are evil. Well,
the Germans, of course they're evil. The French are evil,
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the Eastern Europeans are evil. So you know, you talk
to a moonbat or a liberal and they will bash
white people and people of European descent all day, all night, NonStop.
In fact, that kind of racism now is everywhere and
it's fashionable. But when you make an obvious point about
saying the Somali community in Lewiston or in Minneapolis, suddenly,
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oh my god, how dare you say that?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
How could you say that? What's your theory? Mags?
Speaker 9 (26:32):
My theory is, honestly, Jeff, And you know me, I
don't hold back. I speak right from the hutter, just
like Jake and a few of your all the Collars
spoke about earlier today. I think they're lying. I call
them the lying Liberals. I don't think they like our
country at all. I think they hate our country. I
think they work for people like George Sorows Okay, that evil,
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evil man Okay, which I still am trying to figure
out why he's allowed to do anything in our country.
And I would love a time with Trump. And they say,
what the hell? Okay, I mean, these people are coming
here doing things to destroy our country. Why are they
being able to do this? I don't I really don't
understand it. Maybe I am, you know, naives, okay, but honestly,
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I don't understand it. Jeff, I mean, the liberals are
lying freaks that hate our country. So why does anybody
ever side with them? I don't get it unless you're
an idiot. That's the only way that you could ever
side with them, if you were an idiot and didn't
love our countries. I happen to love the United States
of America, love it with all my heart and soul,
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and would do anything to keep our country the way
it is, so all I can do is hope that
more and more people realize that all they're trying to
do is take our country over. That's what the Somalians want,
and that's what elon Omar and all of our little
gang of people want to do. And people need to
wake up and smell the coffee, because guess what, they're
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right at our back door knocking. But they're not knocking,
they're pushing the door in Wake up, America. God bless you.
Just happy holidays and hopefully the new year jo as
a bit of light.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Max.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Thank you very much for that call and for your honesty.
I really appreciate it. No, that's one of the traits
about Trump that I find, frankly, most endearing and most
likable for me anyway, most and most impressive. He will
tell you the truth. He will tell you the truth
no matter what. And he doesn't care how politically correct
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it is, how politically incorrect it is, if it makes
liberal heads explode, he.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Just doesn't care.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
And you know, and let them freak out. He even
said it. He goes, Okay, the liberals are going to
go crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
This is what it is, and it is what it is.
You know, and you can yell and scream all you want. Look,
I can just say this because Grace is gon. We're
about to get Grace on and she can, she can.
You know, we went to Minnesota and when we adopted
our beautiful boy, Ashton, and we spent a lot of
time in Minnesota, in Minneapolis and Saint Paul the surrounding area.
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This was thirteen years ago, and we were then shocked
how many Somalis there were. And okay, fine, there's a
lot of Somalies. You don't quite expect that. It's so cold,
it's Minnesota. But it was their attitude, how many of
them were on welfare, how many of them were ungrateful
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to be there, The way they dressed, you felt like
you were in Africa, and the way they speak, how
rude they were. I'll never forget this. We were at
a target. We had just gotten Ashton. We had to stay.
It's complicated with adoption. You have to stay a while.
The birth mother has thirty days to change her mind,
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so you have to stay in that state with the
child until your thirty day period. So we had to
stay there no matter what. And so you know, we're
taking Ashton, we're bonding with him, we're playing with them.
We took him to target, and I'll never forget this.
There was a young woman, blonde, Scandinavian, a lot of
Scandinavians in Minnesota, Scandinavian descent, and they were giving a
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they had a discount on Eminem's. And so she's standing
by and she's like every you know customer that walks by, Ah,
we got a special on Eminem's.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Would you like some?
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Well, there's a Somali guy dressed like he's from Africa
with his wife four or five six paces behind him.
That's the other thing you notice when you go there,
all the women in traditional garb will walk. I forget
it's a certain number of steps they have to be
behind the man. It's so in America. It's so jarring.
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And when she went to the guy, you know, she's
walking by, Hi, we have a special. Would you like
to get some m and ms? He starts berating her.
I don't know if it's because it's a woman that
spoke to him, or she didn't have her head covered
or whatever it was. And he's like, sugar, sugarod, that's
full of sugod, sug good. And he's pointing, wagging his
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finger like almost like you know, you're gonna kill me
with the M and ms. And the woman is taking aback.
Everybody's looking. He burates her and then just keeps walking
like he owns the place. And I remember, I mean,
this is just one example. I could give you so
many more, But I'm looking at this and at the time,
(31:31):
I'm like, why isn't anybody speaking out? Why isn't anybody
defending this poor young woman. Why isn't anybody saying, hey, buddy,
this is America.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Man.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Maybe this stuff works in some allia, it doesn't work here.
Do you understand? And you're saying to yourself, why why
are we bringing people like this in this This is
not our strength, This doesn't benefit us. This is we're
watching the third worldization of our country. You bring in
the third world, you become the third world. And that's
(32:05):
literally what Trump is saying. Am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Joining me now, doctor Grace, putting liberals in their place,
Grace Vuoto, my better half, my wonderful wife, Grace. You
heard what Trump said yesterday at the cabinet meeting. He
called the Lonomar garbage. He said most of the people
in the Somali community especially Minneapolis, all of those on
(32:29):
welfare and others, their garbage. Is Trump right? Is Trump wrong?
And should he have used the term garbage because that's
what everybody is seizing on.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
What say you?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Well, good morning, Jeff. Look, I generally support the president's policies.
I know what he's trying to do, but I would
prefer that he used much more selective language when he
speaks so that we avoid these you know what I
call this, This is like racial quicksand we get in
to these, you know, just everybody gets upset, everybody's riled up,
(33:04):
everybody's insulted, and we don't get anywhere. I prefer that
the president talk very clearly about what it is that
he wants, as the Homeland Securities Secretary did right next
to him, and she said, listen, we do not want
crime imported into this country. We don't want people out
of mental institutions. If there's a country that is sending
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a predominance of this, you know, these types of people
into our country, well we're going to put a ban.
So I would just say that the president needs to
talk much more specifically. So when we're talking about the
Somali community in Minnesota, I mean, this is a community
that defrauded the state of a billion dollars, and he
has every right to be upset about that, and he
(33:49):
has every right to be upset about representatives like Omar
who are everything that he says. But I would just
say avoid the large insults because they're ultimate not helpful.
I think it's helpful to talk about behaviors actions and
we can move the country forward. Otherwise it's just spreading,
(34:10):
you know, like all this antagonism that gets in the
way of the goal that we're trying to achieve, which
is to make the country better. And there's lots of
people on both sides of the aisle that would agree
on some of this. I mean, we don't want this
kind of fraud, We don't want this kind of fraud
in our country. Lots of independence would agree on that.
But when you use these incendiary words, it just gets
(34:32):
everybody riled up, and I don't think it's that productive.
So I would just say I agree with his policies,
I agree with the vision, but I would hope that
once in a while he would just be a little
bit more selective in the language that he's using to
express himself.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
What do you say to his central argument and now
his policy, because he's banning immigration at least temporarily from
nineteen countries, Somalia being one of them, and he's vowing
now to deport many of these Somalis from Minneapolis. Apparently
half of them are on fraudulent visas. So, but what
do you say to his argument that there are just
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certain groups from certain countries, immigrant groups that are a
net minus, that's all. And the Somalis for whatever reason,
I don't know why. Whether it's Denmark, whether it's Sweden,
whether it's France, whether it's England. Everywhere they go, whether
it's Maine, whether it's Minnesota, the crime rates are much higher,
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welfare dependency much higher. They're not assimilating. Many of them
have been there several generations. They're not assimilating. And that's
so you just don't bring them in because ultimately they
don't add value to your country. I'm not talking about
an individual here or there, but overall as an overall group.
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Is Trump right or is Trump wrong?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Well? Look, he does have a very good point. Look
there's even an expert that's quoted. His name is Ahmad Samitar,
is an expert on Somali culture, and he says, listen,
there's something about many of these Somali refugees. They were
raised in a culture where stealing from the government was
really common. So the fact that they participated in this
scheme in Minnesota, it doesn't surprise him because that's the
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culture that they came from. But the problem we face
as a country, Jeff, it's not this or that group.
We just do not assimilate immigrants very effectively at all anymore,
any immigrant. And the problem, as I said a couple
of weeks ago, is our policy of multiculturalism, a lack
of knowledge of our own history, a lack of pride
(36:38):
in our own history. And this comes from the Democrats
mostly and the education system that they've put forward. So
we have a huge problem to deal with when it
comes to assimilating all immigrants. And I just think that
the problem is so massive right now. He and the
Homeland Secretary and the whole team, they've got so much
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on their plate and they're doing such a great job.
So just establish a clear policy overall, what is the
immigration standard that we want, what is it that we
don't want, Have one clear policy and talk about it
in terms of policy language as much as possible that
tries to achieve a national consensus. What do we want
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as a nation when we say this person can come
in and this person can come in. We need to
establish those standards, and we do need to have a
process where we can verify that they are being assimilated,
because think about it, You and I come from cultures
where come on, we were telling our parents often, hey mo,
hey dad, you can't do that here. You know, it
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takes a while to assimilate people, but this was an
environment when they came in where there was much more
cultural pressure to assimilate to a national standard. We don't
have that.
Speaker 8 (37:51):
That's a big, big.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Big problem that comes from liberal ideology. So I think
that the government needs to set a clear immigration see
and a clear assimilation procedure and just talk about it
in those terms.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
We've got about a minute left, so I need you
to be very you know, very much to the point
on this.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Is it time for at least.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
A foreseeable future, three years, five years, whatever it is.
We've got so many illegals and so much legal immigration
now that the country really is being there's so many
foreign born Americans, legal or illegal. Is it time to
put a moratorium on immigration until we can sort everything out,
(38:35):
because we're just we're being overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Go quick a minute.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Yes, we need an absolute moratorium on all immigration. And
that's why the government needs to be very clear. You know,
there's this uproar about Okay, so you want the Chinese
students to come in, you do want H one B visas.
I mean, what's the policy. The policies are ever changing,
So I would say we do need a very strict
moratorium applicable to all until we sort everything out in
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the country, get the illegals out, and get the laws
in place that appear to be fair and reasonable for all.
That's all.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
It's not that complicated, doctor Grace putting liberals in their place,
Grace Whoto And yes, I definitely married up Grace, dynamite stuff.
We'll talk next week, same time, same place, and thanks
again for coming on the Kuner Report.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Okay, you heard Grace.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
She agrees with Trump's policies, but doesn't like the fact
that he used the word garbage.
We can go bad.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
We're at tipping point.
Speaker 3 (00:02):
I don't know if people mind me saying that, but
I'm saying that we could go one way or the other,
and we're going to go the wrong way if we
keep taking in garbage into our country. Elan Omar is garbage.
She's garbage.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Her friends are garbage.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
These are people that work. These are people that say,
let's go, come on, let's make this place great. These
are people that do nothing but complain. They complain, and
from where they came from, they got nothing. You know,
if they came from paradise.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
And they said, this isn't paradise.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
But when they come from hell and they complain and
do nothing, but bitch, we don't want them in our country.
Let them go back to where they came from and
fix it.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Amen.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Amen, I know what he said is set off. I mean,
a firestorm is not even the word. They're they're going apoplectic.
Left is going nuts. CNN, MS Now or whatever, MS
Today or MS tomorrow or MS yesterday or whatever they're
calling themselves. The New York Times, the Washington Post, the
Boston Globe. I think the media in this state is
(01:13):
gonna People are going to start dying of heart attacks.
These moonbats are losing their minds. And by the way,
on the emails that I'm getting in the texts, these
liberals are I mean, they're they're they want my head,
they want to hang me for supporting Trump on this
A twenty one by the way, on the Great w
r KO, Jeff Cooner, Boston's bulldozer. Okay, so let me
(01:34):
ask all of you, and I'm going to invite as
many liberals to call in as possible. I want to
hear from all of you. What did Trump say that
was wrong? Where is he factually wrong? You may not
like the term garbage, but what what elanomar? That's the best?
That that that's there. They're sending us their best. That's elanomar.
(02:00):
So I want to ask all of you. In the
wake now of the Afghan national that shot murdering one
and seriously wounding a second member of the West Virginia
National Guard, and now this massive scandal involving the Somali
community or many members of the Somali community in Minneapolis,
(02:24):
where billions of dollars literally billions of dollars in massive
welfare fraud and abuse, and the money is now being
sent back to Somalia, literally into the hands of al Shabab,
an al Qaeda affiliate.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Is Trump right?
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Is this Somali community in general a net minus to
the United States? And this is the key question now,
and many countries in Europe are debating the exact same thing.
Are there certain immigrant groups, ethnic groups, whatever you want
(03:05):
to call him, I don't care, national groups whatever that
are just not in terms of big numbers, not the
kind of immigrants that we want. They don't assimilate their
customs and traditions and values, and frankly, religious practices are
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incompatible with America and especially with Western civilization. And they
don't have the work ethic, they don't have the self reliance,
they don't have the commitment that previous generations of immigrants had,
and that they're basically now a net minus.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Now Trump has.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Signed an order and he's now gonna bar at least
in the future. He is going to bar nationals from
nineteen countries from coming into the United States and being
allowed to get green cards or get citizenship and among them.
(04:16):
And I just want to give you the list and
tell me if you agree. This is nineteen so far,
he may expand it to thirty, but it's so far
nineteen Afghanistan, Iran, Libya, Somalia, obviously Sudan, Yemen also included
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in that list, Burundi, Cuba, Laos, Sierra Leone, Pogo, Turkmenistan,
and Venezuela.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Agree disagree. I think we should.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Not allow or ban groups or p people from certain
countries that just cannot assimilate, refuse to assimilate, and are
ultimately a net drain and a net minus on a country.
We're not obligated to take in everybody from around the world.
(05:18):
And I'm sorry, but if you've got welfare rates as
the Somali community does of ninety percent, and by the way,
that's not just in Minnesota, that's in Maine, that's in
communities all across the country, that's in France, that's in Denmark,
that's in the United Kingdom, and you have crime rates
(05:39):
in those communities that again, this is statistically. This is
the Danish government saying this. This is the British government
saying this. These are stats Now that even Minnesota, their
local and state stats crime stats have to concede are
eight nine, ten times that of the native poppy. Why
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do we want them? Why do we want them? Trump
is right, immigrants are supposed to want to come here
and make us better and help contribute, and say, we're
here all you know, gangbusters, We're ready to go.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Let's go.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Let's roll up our sleeves and let's work our rear
ends off and achieve the American dream instead of just
whine and complain and bitch and moan and then steal
and commit fraud and put everybody up on welfare and
still complain while you're on welfare. I'm sorry, but no,
(06:42):
there are certain groups I'm sorry that, for whatever reason,
just are not good quality immigrants. And I think the
Somali community in particular in Minnesota has been a pathetic disappointment. Okay,
let me ask all of you. It is the Kooner
(07:02):
Country Pole Question of the Day sponsored by Mario's Mario's
Quality Roofing, Siding and Windows. In regard to the Somali
fraud ring in Minnesota. Was Governor Tim Waltz tampon Tim
(07:23):
or wackle Waltz as Trump likes to call him as well?
Was he criminally stupid or was he complicit? In other words,
did all this occur under his nose? And he is
just unbelievably incompetent and an idiot and just you know, duh,
(07:44):
he just can't see what's going on around him. Or
was he complicit himself he knew and he didn't care,
or he knew and he deliberately turned a blind eye,
or he knew and maybe he's even involved himself. I mean,
we're gonna find out there's now a massive Treasury Secretary
(08:05):
Scott Bessant is now launching a massive investigation into this
massive fraud and he's looking at the funding to Al
Shabab and Somalia and Governor Tim Waltz and his role
in all of this. I mean, this is a scandal
that is mushrooming and mushrooming and mushrooming. So is it
(08:25):
a stupidity b complicity? Was he stupid or was he complicit?
I think he was complicit. I think it's pretty obvious. Nobody,
not even Waltz, is that stupid. But that's me I
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Er at the Kooner Report. Okay, just very quick, one
(09:09):
other small point, and then I want to go right
to the phone lines. When Sandy, you know, Sandy and
I and Mike, we always do a pre show production meeting,
and Sandy does a great job with the clips, and
so does Mike.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
They work together as a team.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
And so when we went through this particular cut that
I've played now twice about Trump preferring to Lano Maarra's
garbage many in the Somali community in Minnesota as quote
unquote garbage, and how all they do is complain and
complain and complain, and if they came from paradise, well, okay,
(09:44):
I can maybe see it, but they come from a hellhole.
And I said to Sandy, I said, you know, cause
she made a brilliant point. I said, you know, Sandy,
I know it's politically very incorrect what Trump said, but
he's a thousand percent correct. It's very true. And I
thought Sandy made a really perceptive point. She said, look, Jeff,
(10:06):
there are just certain groups, certain whatever immigrant groups, national groups,
ethnic groups, whatever you want to call them. Take to
Somali's that have been so traumatized and live in such
an abusive, violent environment generation after generation after generation that
(10:34):
it's almost deeply marinated in their brain. It's almost like
in their DNA from you know, successive generations of this
kind of trauma and violence and terror and abuse, and
you know, like I said, the law of the jungle,
(10:54):
eat or be eaten, kill or be killed, because it's
pure anarchy and lawlessness, that it's almost becomes part of
their like part of their DNA. And it doesn't matter
if you pull them out of that environment and put
them in a much much better place, because in their mind,
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that's all they know is that terror and that trauma.
That negativity becomes so ingrained in them, it's all they know.
It's all they've ever known, it's all they expect, it's
all they see, it's all they will ever see. And
(11:40):
it's very sad, it's very tragic, actually it's heartbreaking. But
as Sandy put it, that's the law that they drew.
I mean, with all due respect, that's not our problem
because there's many places around the world like that. It's
not just unique to Somonia. That's just the law that
they drew. And it's not up to us to take
(12:04):
them in, send them back home, and if they can,
let them fix and rebuild their homeland.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And if they can't, that's on them. It's not on.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Us, Meaning we don't have an obligation, moral, legal, political,
whatever to take in every group from around the world,
even though we know it's going to hurt and drain
and damage and undermine our country. So let me say it.
(12:43):
The Somali community in Minnesota. And I know this because
I was in Minnesota when I adopted my Minnesota Miracle Ashton,
So I saw this firsthand. And this was thirteen years
ago and it's gotten much worse than the last thirteen years.
I'm sorry. They're not like the Haitians.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
They're not.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
They're not like the Japanese or the Chinese, or the
Koreans or the Vietnamese. If I'm leaving out groups, I
just can't name all of them. They're not like the
Italians and the Irish, and the Poles and the Jews,
and I could go on and on, or the Indians
from India where you say no no, or say Arab
Americans you see it from Egypt and Christians from Lebanon
(13:29):
and Syria. No, No, they add value, no question, hard working, successful, mobile,
They assimilate, they learn the language. They want to assimilate.
They're not here to take. They're here to give. They
want to better themselves and better their children. They're not
(13:51):
here to milk, you know, milk us white and live
off the fat of the land and abuse us and
take advantage of us. And they're grateful to be here.
They're proud to be Americans. They appreciate what they have here.
They're grateful to be here. You've got some groups like
the Somalis, it doesn't matter where you You can put
(14:16):
them in heaven. As Sandy said, you can literally put
him in heaven and they'll complain. Not everyone. Obviously, people
are individuals. But I'm saying collectively as a group. When
you've got them in society after society after country and
country and country eighty five ninety ninety two percent welfare
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rates and crime rates that are much higher than any
other group.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
And by the way, some of those groups are black.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
It's not a race thing. So I don't want to
hear these dumb liberals racist. You're an idiot you do
know what you're talking about, You don't. Haitians have a
much lower crime rate. Haitians have a much more economically
successful They're much more mobile. Many immigrants from the Caribbean,
same thing. I could go on and on. Nigerians. One
(15:09):
of the most successful immigrant groups in America, you can
look it up are Nigerians, generally Nigerian Christians.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
So this is not a race thing.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
There's something about the Somali culture, whatever it may be,
in the work, and they're not making Minnesota better. I'm
telling you, they're making Minnesota worse? Am I wrong? Six
one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight? Okay, Mike,
(15:41):
Maestro Mike, where do you want me to go to?
Steve and Quinsy. Thanks for holding Steve and welcome.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
Good morning, Jeff, Thank you for taking my call. On
Happy holidays to you and your family.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Thank you, Thank you, Steve.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
Here you walk. I got a couple of points to make.
So the first question is is garbage you know the
right word to say. I mean, listen, uh when something's factual.
I mean, look at what's at stake all this fraud
in Minnesota. Right now. We know we have to go
through the judicial system and so forth. But the reality
is money's coming in, money's going out. It's not your money,
(16:21):
and people are struggling at home to pay their electricity
bill and gas bill, and that's kind of frustrating. So yeah,
I'm I have no problem with Trump saying the word
garbage and going back to Sandy's point, politically correct. I'm
from the mindset, I shoot from the hip. I'm going
to tell you like it is. And I work in
(16:41):
a professional environment and I want my senior managers to
talk to me with some comfort. Bring down the walls,
bring down the suits, as they say, and let's be
comfortable with one another. And what Trump was talking about
was Okay, I'm biased, I'm on the right side.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
He was not.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
He was truthful. So that's number one. Number two. I
know you have access to the internet. Look up the
cartoon droopy droopy cartoon dog. That's Tim Watz for you, right.
So you know I'm going to I'm gonna give you
some time back and talk with your audience. And I
appreciate you taking my call.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Well, I appreciate your call, Steve. Look, let me ask
all of you. The media is savaging Trump over this,
that he shouldn't have called uh elan o'mar and some
you know, members of the Somali community garbage that this
is quote unquote racist, disparaging, escapegoating them. Look, when my
mother would talk about thieves, criminals, she would say, that's garbage.
(17:47):
I mean, it was a loose way of saying, like
they're undesirables. You don't you know, they're they're bad people,
they're garbage.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
You know.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
Sandy just made another very good point to me off air.
She said, you know, have you noticed she goes, really,
do you know anybody anybody who's ever said, boy, I
gotta go to Somalia. You know, I just want to
visit Somalia. I want to see Somalia, like it's on
my bucket list. Like, no, you don't understand that I've
got to see Somalia before I drop dead. I've never
(18:18):
heard of it. I've never heard of that. I mean,
I've heard of people say I gotta go to Egypt,
I gotta go to Israel. I gotta go to Ireland
or Italy or take your pick whatever, Japan or there's
a million, you know, Mexico, whatever, there's a ton of countries.
But you know, no I gotta do Somalia, Somalia, And
then Sandy made the point can you even fly a
(18:39):
plane there? In other words, like do they even have
a functioning airport, you know, Mogadishu. Honestly, I don't even
think they have a functioning airport.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
That's Trump's point.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
You don't have a functioning government, you don't have a
functioning airport, you don't have a functioning civil society, you
don't have a funking military, you don't have a functioning police.
You've got nothing. And you come here and you run
us down, and you bad mouthed us, and somehow what
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America is just not not just not quite up to
our standards by get lost, blank off, go back to Somalia.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
He's completely right. Bye, we don't Hey, we don't need listen,
you need us, We don't need you. Am I wrong?
Rich In Natick, thanks for holding rich and welcome.
Speaker 8 (19:41):
Good morning, Jeff. You just ruined my vacation plans for
next summer.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
I thought I was going to the land of some
alli age.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
I thought that's where the expert.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Rich what do you think?
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Did Trump go too far and calling them, you know,
calling the OMAR and many members of the Somali community
in Minnesota garbage.
Speaker 8 (20:22):
I mean, you've heard the phrase the truth hurts. You know,
I'm tired of all the political correctness. You know, people
just got to speak their mind, you know, whether it
hurts somebody's films or not, too bad, deal with it,
you know. But when he said call the garbage, I
was I was getting that picture of Trump in the
garbage truck during his last for elector man.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Rich Rich he doesn't want Now He's going to freeze immigration,
all immigration from nineteen countries.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
He may even go up to thirty.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
And Somalia is on that list of nineteen. I mean
I read the whole list. I don't want to go
over it again. I mean some of them are pretty obvious.
You know Iran, you know Yemen where the Whosies are
running that place, and they've got Islamic terrorists all over,
and he's you know, one after another.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Is he right?
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Should there be certain countries we just don't allow immigration
from those countries?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
What say? You?
Speaker 8 (21:27):
Absolutely?
Speaker 7 (21:28):
Because you can see it a lot of these people
they don't want to assimilate, you know, they just want
to come here and milk the cow. And they lack
Gratitude is what it boils down to. You know, when
you have gratitude, your focus is I'm grateful for what
I have. These people sit around complaining about what they
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don't have and trying to tear us down. You know,
if these you know, eighty eight percent of the Somalians,
they're on some sort of you know, there's a ward
of the state, on some sort of welfare or what
have you. You know, I hear the Caribbeans is looking
for boat drivers to deliver drugs to America. So you know,
if they're looked at her a job there you.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Go, Rich, Rich, thank you very much for that call.
My friend Mags in New Hampshire. Thanks for holding Mags
and welcome.
Speaker 9 (22:25):
I'd always Jeff, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
My pleasure, my family and Sandy and Mike.
Speaker 9 (22:31):
Hey, you know what the Somali's ruined Lewiston, Maine over
twenty years ago. They've sucked off Maine for years and
years and years. They're disgusting people. Garbage is too good
of a word for them to be honest with you. Okay,
when you see somebody like elon Omar illegally, illegally came
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to our countries, sounds like, Okay, why is she still here?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Then?
Speaker 9 (22:57):
Why is she being allowed to stay here? She goes
against our country, goes against everything that we stand for,
and tells people that she can't stand this place. She
wants to change it to be like Somali or whatever
she wants it to be. I don't know, okay, but
they're not welcome here anymore. And we should have shut
all these countries off years ago from coming here. I
(23:19):
don't understand why we've allowed this for so many years,
for them to just suck us thrive, because that's exactly
what's happening. I have great nieces and nephews that i'd
like to see have a great life like what I
was allowed to have in the United States of America.
And now every day it seems like we're fighting and
fighting for our country within our country, which is even sicker.
(23:39):
To be honest with you, Jeff, we have people that
are just so stupid that live in this country that
they think that calling Somali's garbage is awful and oh
my god, that's terrible. You're a racists.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Know we're not.
Speaker 9 (23:53):
We're speaking the truth. These people have done nothing for
our country.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
Look it up.
Speaker 9 (23:58):
Watch it. You can see that. It's disgusting and it's
old to me, to be honest with you, and I
want it stopped because I want to have a good
life for the rest of my life.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Also, Jet Max, I'm just curious, why do you think,
I mean, the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Fray, he's a
moonbat Democrat. He's going crazy. This is singling out the
Somali community, This escapegoating.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
You know, this is outrageous.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
You've got Tim Waltz that more on Temp on Tim
saying that you know, Trump is smearing to Somali's This
is racism at its worst. Why can't we just be
frank and honest that when you have certain groups that
are eighty eight eighty five ninety ninety two percent on
(24:51):
freaking welfare, that have roving gangs. You take Minneapolis, that
people are afraid to go to the mall, are afraid
to leave their homes at night, People's cars are being
carjacked all the time. You've got crime rates exploding through
the roof. I mean, you've got literally, you've got them
(25:13):
scamming billions of dollars from taxpayers and they're laughing in
our face. And when somebody says, we don't need people
like this in our country. He's the bad guy. Like,
how did we get to this point? Why are liberals
and Democrats honestly so afraid of the truth? Do you,
(25:37):
I mean, do you have a theory on that really, Mags?
You know, and by the way, they're not afraid to
confront racial issues or ethnic issues, because they'll tell you
that white people are racist all the time. They'll tell
you white people are evil all the time. And it
doesn't matter. The Irish are evil, the Italians are evil. Well,
the Germans, of course they're evil. The French are evil,
(26:00):
the Eastern Europeans are evil. So you know, you talk
to a moonbat or a liberal and they will bash
white people and people of European descent all day, all night, NonStop.
In fact, that kind of racism now is everywhere and
it's fashionable. But when you make an obvious point about
saying the Somali community in Lewiston or in Minneapolis, suddenly,
(26:24):
oh my god, how dare you say that?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
How could you say that? What's your theory? Mags?
Speaker 9 (26:32):
My theory is, honestly, Jeff, And you know me, I
don't hold back. I speak right from the hutter, just
like Jake and a few of your all the Collars
spoke about earlier today. I think they're lying. I call
them the lying Liberals. I don't think they like our
country at all. I think they hate our country. I
think they work for people like George Sorows Okay, that evil,
(26:55):
evil man Okay, which I still am trying to figure
out why he's allowed to do anything in our country.
And I would love a time with Trump. And they say,
what the hell? Okay, I mean, these people are coming
here doing things to destroy our country. Why are they
being able to do this? I don't I really don't
understand it. Maybe I am, you know, naives, okay, but honestly,
(27:22):
I don't understand it. Jeff, I mean, the liberals are
lying freaks that hate our country. So why does anybody
ever side with them? I don't get it unless you're
an idiot. That's the only way that you could ever
side with them, if you were an idiot and didn't
love our countries. I happen to love the United States
of America, love it with all my heart and soul,
(27:43):
and would do anything to keep our country the way
it is, so all I can do is hope that
more and more people realize that all they're trying to
do is take our country over. That's what the Somalians want,
and that's what elon Omar and all of our little
gang of people want to do. And people need to
wake up and smell the coffee, because guess what, they're
(28:03):
right at our back door knocking. But they're not knocking,
they're pushing the door in Wake up, America. God bless you.
Just happy holidays and hopefully the new year jo as
a bit of light.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Max.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Thank you very much for that call and for your honesty.
I really appreciate it. No, that's one of the traits
about Trump that I find, frankly, most endearing and most
likable for me anyway, most and most impressive. He will
tell you the truth. He will tell you the truth
no matter what. And he doesn't care how politically correct
(28:41):
it is, how politically incorrect it is, if it makes
liberal heads explode, he.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Just doesn't care.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
And you know, and let them freak out. He even
said it. He goes, Okay, the liberals are going to
go crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
This is what it is, and it is what it is.
You know, and you can yell and scream all you want. Look,
I can just say this because Grace is gon. We're
about to get Grace on and she can, she can.
You know, we went to Minnesota and when we adopted
our beautiful boy, Ashton, and we spent a lot of
time in Minnesota, in Minneapolis and Saint Paul the surrounding area.
(29:14):
This was thirteen years ago, and we were then shocked
how many Somalis there were. And okay, fine, there's a
lot of Somalies. You don't quite expect that. It's so cold,
it's Minnesota. But it was their attitude, how many of
them were on welfare, how many of them were ungrateful
(29:36):
to be there, The way they dressed, you felt like
you were in Africa, and the way they speak, how
rude they were. I'll never forget this. We were at
a target. We had just gotten Ashton. We had to stay.
It's complicated with adoption. You have to stay a while.
The birth mother has thirty days to change her mind,
(29:57):
so you have to stay in that state with the
child until your thirty day period. So we had to
stay there no matter what. And so you know, we're
taking Ashton, we're bonding with him, we're playing with them.
We took him to target, and I'll never forget this.
There was a young woman, blonde, Scandinavian, a lot of
Scandinavians in Minnesota, Scandinavian descent, and they were giving a
(30:18):
they had a discount on Eminem's. And so she's standing
by and she's like every you know customer that walks by, Ah,
we got a special on Eminem's.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Would you like some?
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Well, there's a Somali guy dressed like he's from Africa
with his wife four or five six paces behind him.
That's the other thing you notice when you go there,
all the women in traditional garb will walk. I forget
it's a certain number of steps they have to be
behind the man. It's so in America. It's so jarring.
(30:49):
And when she went to the guy, you know, she's
walking by, Hi, we have a special. Would you like
to get some m and ms? He starts berating her.
I don't know if it's because it's a woman that
spoke to him, or she didn't have her head covered
or whatever it was. And he's like, sugar, sugarod, that's
full of sugod, sug good. And he's pointing, wagging his
(31:11):
finger like almost like you know, you're gonna kill me
with the M and ms. And the woman is taking aback.
Everybody's looking. He burates her and then just keeps walking
like he owns the place. And I remember, I mean,
this is just one example. I could give you so
many more, But I'm looking at this and at the time,
(31:31):
I'm like, why isn't anybody speaking out? Why isn't anybody
defending this poor young woman. Why isn't anybody saying, hey, buddy,
this is America.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Man.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Maybe this stuff works in some allia, it doesn't work here.
Do you understand? And you're saying to yourself, why why
are we bringing people like this in this This is
not our strength, This doesn't benefit us. This is we're
watching the third worldization of our country. You bring in
the third world, you become the third world. And that's
(32:05):
literally what Trump is saying. Am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Joining me now, doctor Grace, putting liberals in their place,
Grace Vuoto, my better half, my wonderful wife, Grace. You
heard what Trump said yesterday at the cabinet meeting. He
called the Lonomar garbage. He said most of the people
in the Somali community especially Minneapolis, all of those on
(32:29):
welfare and others, their garbage. Is Trump right? Is Trump wrong?
And should he have used the term garbage because that's
what everybody is seizing on.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
What say you?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Well, good morning, Jeff. Look, I generally support the president's policies.
I know what he's trying to do, but I would
prefer that he used much more selective language when he
speaks so that we avoid these you know what I
call this, This is like racial quicksand we get in
to these, you know, just everybody gets upset, everybody's riled up,
(33:04):
everybody's insulted, and we don't get anywhere. I prefer that
the president talk very clearly about what it is that
he wants, as the Homeland Securities Secretary did right next
to him, and she said, listen, we do not want
crime imported into this country. We don't want people out
of mental institutions. If there's a country that is sending
(33:27):
a predominance of this, you know, these types of people
into our country, well we're going to put a ban.
So I would just say that the president needs to
talk much more specifically. So when we're talking about the
Somali community in Minnesota, I mean, this is a community
that defrauded the state of a billion dollars, and he
has every right to be upset about that, and he
(33:49):
has every right to be upset about representatives like Omar
who are everything that he says. But I would just
say avoid the large insults because they're ultimate not helpful.
I think it's helpful to talk about behaviors actions and
we can move the country forward. Otherwise it's just spreading,
(34:10):
you know, like all this antagonism that gets in the
way of the goal that we're trying to achieve, which
is to make the country better. And there's lots of
people on both sides of the aisle that would agree
on some of this. I mean, we don't want this
kind of fraud, We don't want this kind of fraud
in our country. Lots of independence would agree on that.
But when you use these incendiary words, it just gets
(34:32):
everybody riled up, and I don't think it's that productive.
So I would just say I agree with his policies,
I agree with the vision, but I would hope that
once in a while he would just be a little
bit more selective in the language that he's using to
express himself.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
What do you say to his central argument and now
his policy, because he's banning immigration at least temporarily from
nineteen countries, Somalia being one of them, and he's vowing
now to deport many of these Somalis from Minneapolis. Apparently
half of them are on fraudulent visas. So, but what
do you say to his argument that there are just
(35:07):
certain groups from certain countries, immigrant groups that are a
net minus, that's all. And the Somalis for whatever reason,
I don't know why. Whether it's Denmark, whether it's Sweden,
whether it's France, whether it's England. Everywhere they go, whether
it's Maine, whether it's Minnesota, the crime rates are much higher,
(35:30):
welfare dependency much higher. They're not assimilating. Many of them
have been there several generations. They're not assimilating. And that's
so you just don't bring them in because ultimately they
don't add value to your country. I'm not talking about
an individual here or there, but overall as an overall group.
(35:51):
Is Trump right or is Trump wrong?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Well? Look, he does have a very good point. Look
there's even an expert that's quoted. His name is Ahmad Samitar,
is an expert on Somali culture, and he says, listen,
there's something about many of these Somali refugees. They were
raised in a culture where stealing from the government was
really common. So the fact that they participated in this
scheme in Minnesota, it doesn't surprise him because that's the
(36:16):
culture that they came from. But the problem we face
as a country, Jeff, it's not this or that group.
We just do not assimilate immigrants very effectively at all anymore,
any immigrant. And the problem, as I said a couple
of weeks ago, is our policy of multiculturalism, a lack
of knowledge of our own history, a lack of pride
(36:38):
in our own history. And this comes from the Democrats
mostly and the education system that they've put forward. So
we have a huge problem to deal with when it
comes to assimilating all immigrants. And I just think that
the problem is so massive right now. He and the
Homeland Secretary and the whole team, they've got so much
(36:58):
on their plate and they're doing such a great job.
So just establish a clear policy overall, what is the
immigration standard that we want, what is it that we
don't want, Have one clear policy and talk about it
in terms of policy language as much as possible that
tries to achieve a national consensus. What do we want
(37:19):
as a nation when we say this person can come
in and this person can come in. We need to
establish those standards, and we do need to have a
process where we can verify that they are being assimilated,
because think about it, You and I come from cultures
where come on, we were telling our parents often, hey mo,
hey dad, you can't do that here. You know, it
(37:39):
takes a while to assimilate people, but this was an
environment when they came in where there was much more
cultural pressure to assimilate to a national standard. We don't
have that.
Speaker 8 (37:51):
That's a big, big.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Big problem that comes from liberal ideology. So I think
that the government needs to set a clear immigration see
and a clear assimilation procedure and just talk about it
in those terms.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
We've got about a minute left, so I need you
to be very you know, very much to the point
on this.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Is it time for at least.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
A foreseeable future, three years, five years, whatever it is.
We've got so many illegals and so much legal immigration
now that the country really is being there's so many
foreign born Americans, legal or illegal. Is it time to
put a moratorium on immigration until we can sort everything out,
(38:35):
because we're just we're being overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Go quick a minute.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Yes, we need an absolute moratorium on all immigration. And
that's why the government needs to be very clear. You know,
there's this uproar about Okay, so you want the Chinese
students to come in, you do want H one B visas.
I mean, what's the policy. The policies are ever changing,
So I would say we do need a very strict
moratorium applicable to all until we sort everything out in
(38:59):
the country, get the illegals out, and get the laws
in place that appear to be fair and reasonable for all.
That's all.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
It's not that complicated, doctor Grace putting liberals in their place,
Grace Whoto And yes, I definitely married up Grace, dynamite stuff.
We'll talk next week, same time, same place, and thanks
again for coming on the Kuner Report.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Okay, you heard Grace.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
She agrees with Trump's policies, but doesn't like the fact
that he used the word garbage.
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