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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Coon Air contrary. Okay, a lot and I
mean a lot to talk about today. But one of
the big stories, I get it Epstein huge. And Trump
commented on that as well yesterday, essentially backing Pambondi, Cash
Battel and Dan Bongino and in a sense mocking many
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of his own supporters for even raising the issue of Epstein.
But what was also very, very newsworthy is that President
Trump now has done a complete one hundred and eighty
degree turn when it comes to supplying Ukraine with weapons.
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He now says that Putin is hammering Ukraine, which is true.
The Russian dictator, the Russian strong man, is now launching
a massive summer offensive. It is obvious they've been planning
for this for months. They are now hitting Ukraine all
across the entire front. They're launching massive missile and drone strikes.
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Civilians are being killed, The Ukrainian military is buckling, and
the fear now is Russia may deliver a decisive blow
and break through Ukraine's front lines. Zelensky is desperately pleading
for help. He says, without American arms right now, Ukraine
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could lose everything. So under pressure from Lindsey Graham, under
pressure from the Pentagon, under pressure from many warhawks and
NATO leaders. Trump now says he feels betrayed by Vladimir Putin,
that he has been strung along by the Russian leader
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who has been talking peace, peace, peace, paying lips lip
service to peace, sending a delegation to so called peace talks.
But as Trump said, all this guy does is wage war,
war war. Listen now to President Trump. He first announced
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the change in policy. It was at a luncheon with
bb netting Yahoo on Monday, where he was asked by
a reporter, are you now planning on sending more weapons
to Ukraine? Listen to Trump's response, roll cut two d
a mic, President, are you planning.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
To send more weapons to Ukraine? We're going to send
some more weapons. We have to.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
They have to be able to defend themselves. They're getting
hit very hard. Now they're getting hit very hard. We're
gonna have to send more weapons, you defensive weapons primarily,
but they're getting hit very, very hard.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
So many people had dined in that mess.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
So basically he fears now a potential Ukrainian collapse and
obviously the loss of massive civilian lives if something is
not done, if Ukraine is not bolstered right now as
Russia makes its final push. Russia's generals have now told
Putin this is the summer offensive that will lead to
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the decisive breakthrough. Now again, yesterday, this was at the
Cabinet meeting and he was asked by This is CNN.
He was asked about the Pentagon. This is about maybe
a week ago. They had temporarily paused weapons shipments, not
just the Ukraine but to other countries around the world.
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But regarding Ukraine, artillery shells were held up, some key
missiles were held up, a lot of important military equipment
was paused. Why Listen to Trump's answer, basically saying, I
don't know why. There was some kind of an annual review,
but whether it was paused or not, Ukraine now is
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going to get a massive shipment of American arms, American weapons,
including now according to the Wall Street Journal, even another
Patriot missile system. So he's going to send them hellfire missiles,
long range missiles, artillery shells, Patriot missiles. In other words,
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he is going to arm Ukraine to the teeth to
fend off the Russian invasion and to keep Ukraine afloat
roll cut to see a mics to Ukraine.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
As you said last night, last week, the Pentagon paused
some shipments of weapons to Ukraine.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Did you approve of that loss.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
We wanted to put defensive weapons because Putin is not
he's not treating human beings right, He's killing too many people.
So we're sending some defensive weapons to Ukraine, and I have
approved that last week.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I don't know what and you tell me that's a question.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, he was taking a little shot at Caitlin Collins
at the end. You know, well, who ordered the pause,
I don't know. You tell me. Basically someone at the
Pentagon did. Now, this is very important. The reason why
the Pentagon temporarily ordered the pause, according to them, and
I believe them, is that they now say that the
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American stockpiles of Patriot missiles, frankly, even of artillery shells,
of basic weapons is now their words, dangerously low. That
we have basically now emptied out our inventories, not just
for Ukraine, but remember helping Israel fending off the attacks
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from Iran on our basis in Qatar and other places.
We also deliver weapons to other countries around the world.
So in essence, Now, according to the Pentagon, we are
no longer able to defend ourselves at this moment, we
are unable to defend the US homeland because we have
essentially depleted our inventories and our weapons stockpiles, and still
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we are going to go ahead with the decision to
arm Ukraine. Now, it is very very clear that Trump
feels lied to, misled, deceived by Vladimir Putin. He thought
Putin wanted some kind of a peace deal, that he
wanted to end this war after three long, brutal years. Instead,
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Putin was just stringing him along, as I said earlier,
talking peace piece piece out of one side of his mouth,
health and on the other side, launching now one of
the biggest offensives of the entire war. Civilians are being slaughtered,
the Ukrainian military is taking a beating, and Trump now says,
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you're gonna lie to me, You're gonna pay a price. Now,
I'm gonna arm the Ukrainians, and We're gonna blunt your offensive.
We're gonna blunt your attack now on Ukraine. Listen now
to Trump clearly saying he's had enough with Vladimir Putin,
He's run out of patients, and he actually uses the
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BS word to describe him roll cut to be a mike.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I gave them the javelins.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Remember they said Trump gave the javelins and Obama gave
them sheets. Right, they called Obama at that time Barack
Usain Obama, if you haven't heard, did a terrible job.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
But that was a war that that was a war
that she had never happened, and.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
A lot of people dying, and it should end.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
And I don't know, we get we get, we get
a lot of vote thrown at us by Putin.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
For you one another truth.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
It's very nice all the time, but it turns out
to be meaningless.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
So I mean now, I mean he's openly now had
it with Vladimir Putin and so this now he's made
a decision. It's a big reversal, make no question about it.
He campaigned on ending this war in Ukraine and between
Ukraine and Russia. He criticized Biden for sending weapon shipment
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after weaponshipment after weaponshipment. And now here we are, we
are back essentially to the Biden policy of essentially now
arming and funding Ukraine. Now let me just say this,
it was wrong under Biden and I still believe it's wrong.
Under Trump, I understand his humanitarian reasons. I understand he
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hates to see civilians being slaughtered. I don't like to
see civilians being killed as well. I understand that Putin
has lied to them, and that Putin has misled him
and in many ways played him for a fool. And
I understand all of the emotions that Trump feels. But
this is not America's fight. We have no strategic interests
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in eastern Ukraine or however much now the Russians and
the Ukrainians want to fight it out. This is not
our war. And the more we arm Ukraine, the deeper
we get embroiled into that war. And let me just
say one other thing that needs to be said. Ukraine
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has lost the war. There's no question they have lost
to don Bass. They have lost Crimea. They are never
going to get it back. And rather than level with Zelensky,
and I'm not just talking about Trump, I'm talking about
NATO and the West in general. And say, listen that
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eighteen to twenty percent of Ukrainian territory it's gone. You're
not going to get it back by continuing to arm Ukraine.
You are prolonging the bloodshed. You are going to be
prolonging the death and the slaughter and the meat grinder.
This is not going to reverse anything on the battlefield. Yes,
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it will bloody the Russians. Yes, it will slow their advance. Yes,
it will continue to weaken the Russian military, but in
the end, it will not change the fundamental facts on
the ground. And ultimately I blame Zelensky for all of this.
Had he sued for peace, this war would have been over.
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He could have kept over eighty percent of his country.
Ukraine would be going into the European Union. They could
be rebuilding and recovering. Instead, this senseless slaughter will continue
to go on. Six seven two six x sixty eight
sixty eight is the number. You can also text the
Kooner Man seven zero four seven zero seven zero four
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seven zero. This is from Dave, our Western PA constitutionalist correspondent.
He's in the Pittsburgh area and he makes two actually
very good points. He said, Jeff, number one, you're one
thousand percent right on Ukraine. This is clearly not our
war and we should not be getting ourselves embroiled deeper
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into it. However, he does say that Jeff, if there
is a silver lining here. It does prove that Trump
is not in bed with Russia, i e. The so
called Russia collusion hoax, despite all of the bs from
the media. Well, I mean, I don't know what they're
going to say now. I mean that's I think Dave
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makes an excellent point. I don't think we should be
sending any more or arms or weapons to Ukraine. I mean,
we've sent them now one hundred and seventy five billion
dollars worth. But if you combine financial aid money and
the weaponry the weapons that we've sent, I think we've
sent them an off. So but if you know, if
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there's a silver lining, if there's a to me, a
bright side to this, how are you going to argue
Russia collusion now? I mean you couldn't argue it before,
but now so now he's going to be arming Ukraine
to the teeth. He's going to be sent Yes, they're
defensive weapons, but it doesn't matter. That's some real firepower
we're sending to Ukraine. We're talking patriot missile systems, We're
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talking hell fire missiles, long range missiles, a ton of
artillery shells. I mean, Ukraine is they're going to be
ready now to weather this summer offensive. Now, let me
just make a couple of other quick points, and I'd
really like to open it up to the phone lines.
Six one seven two six, six sixty eight sixty eight.
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Let me ask all of you fairly, just simple question.
Trump now says, reversing himself, that he now is going
to arm Ukraine. He is going to send them weapons, arms.
In fact, immediately shipments are going to start flowing into
Ukraine for them to use on the front lines against
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the advancing Russian army. Do you agree with Trump's decision
or do you think now that he has broken a promise,
a key promise, and that we should stay out of
this war as he said we were going to do initially.
Are you disappointed in Trump or do you support him
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on this issue? I'd love to hear from you. Six
one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight is
the number. Look, Zelenski is still a crook to me.
Nothing has change changed. The Ukrainian regime is still the
Ukrainian regime. And just like they stole under Biden, they're
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going to steal under Trump. I mean, it's just that's
what they do. Some of the weapons will get to
the front lines. Yes, many, much of it is not.
They're going to sell it on the black market and
line their pockets. So that's another reason why I oppose
sending weapons and arms to Ukraine, because they're going to
continue to rip us off. And by the way, we
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send Israel, just to give you an example, much less,
infinitely less than what we have sent to Ukraine. But
look at how effective Israel's military is. And one of
the reasons is when you don't steal and you actually
use the weapons for what they're intended for. Look how
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good and effective they can be. But you know, let
that go. My point is Zelenski's still there, that a
little crook is still there. He's going to continue to
steal and siphon off some of the weapons and sell
it on the black market. He his cronies and people
who and his inner circle. So again it's going to
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be more money that are American money, taxpayer money, right
down a rat hole. Furthermore, I'm sorry, but I've said
this many times before. I am not Ukraine first, I'm
not Russia first, I'm not Canada first, I'm not Croatia first,
I'm not NATO first. I'm nobody first, I'm America first.
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And our stockpiles and our inventories are now dangerously low.
Our own pentagon says, it is dangerously low. If we're
not even able to protect our own homeland, what the
hell are we doing sending even more weapons to Ukraine.
In the end, this is now their war. This is
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a war between Russia and Ukraine. And to be honest,
I think Trump is making a mistake not just by
sending them the weapons, but by continuing to put his
prestige and his political capital on the line in a
search for some kind of a peace deal. Because what
he's clearly trying to do, and in a sense, I
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can see a strategy which is, let the Ukrainians punch
Russia in the nose again, in other words, give the
Russians a big, bloody nose, Let the summer offensive get blunted,
Let more Russians die, Let this offensive fail again or
just peter out. Yes, more Ukrainians will die, more Russians
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will die. But maybe then by rebalancing the battlefield and
beefing and bolstering the Ukrainian forces, the eventually putin and
three three months, four months, five months, whenever by the fall,
we'll be ready to come back to the peace table.
You can't force peace on two combatants who don't want it.
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Putin doesn't want peace. It's obvious. Zelenski doesn't want peace.
It's obvious at this point. Let them fight it out.
Let them fight it out. This is not our war.
And there's no dishonor in President Trump saying, look, I
try to make peace. I put pressure on Russia. I
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put pressure on Zelensky. I tried to set up peace
conference after peace conference. You know what, I gave it
six months. Okay, let me ask all of you. I
want to go right to the phone lines six one
seven two, six, six, sixty eight sixty eight. It is
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a very simple, basic question. Should President Trump send defensive
weapons to Ukraine? He now says they're going to be
sending arms to Ukraine. There's going to be a lot
of them. It's not just you know, we're not talking
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about a few bullets and a few shells. This is
going to be a serious weapons package. It's not going
to be the kind of stuff that could allow Ukraine,
say to attack Moscow or Saint Petersburg. But these are
formidable weapons that are aimed to utterly stop and blunt
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the massive Russian summer offensive that is now taking place.
And look, make no mistake about it, this will prolong
the war. In fact, that's the intention. Trump is very
worried now that Ukraine's military can just collapse, and so
this is now a desperate effort to prop up Zelenski
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and prop up the Ukrainian military which is now taking
a beating from his huge Russian onslaught six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight. So the pro question,
should President Trump send defensive weapons to Ukraine aes B.
Speaker 8 (19:24):
No.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
You know where I stand. I thought his original position
was the best position. No, but that's me I want
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Danielle in Florida. You're gonna kick us off, Danielle, thanks
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for holding and welcome.
Speaker 9 (20:11):
How are you.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I'm good. How are you, Danielle.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
I'm good. I have a little bit of a cold.
I'm a first time caller.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Welcome done, Thank you.
Speaker 8 (20:22):
Excuse me. I do not think we should be sending
to Ukraine. I think we've sent a woman enough. And
we voted for Trump. I'm very disappointed with Trump. I
feel like I voted for him for peace and other things,
and I feel like I just keep getting more disappointed
and more disappointed. I'm trying to keep my trust in him,
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but it's very hot at this point.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Well, Danielle, let me ask you this. He's delivered on
the border, he delivered on the big beautiful bill. Inflation
is starting to come down finally. On employment now is
what four point one almost four percent. He got NATO
to pony up five percent every country except Spain five
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percent of all military defense spending. So NATO now is
going to be flush with cash. He's winning at the
Supreme Court again and again and again. The deportations are
really starting to rev up now. Crime is down in
many cities. He bombed Iran's nuclear sites he got peace
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between the Rwanda and Congo, peace between Pakistan and India,
to nuclear powers. He looks like he may even have
a ceasefire now between Israel and Gaza. So, in other words,
Trump is delivering a lot in his first six months.
Is it just this issue that upsets you, Danielle or
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is it the Epstein case? What else is bothering you
that makes you feel so disappointed in Trump? Well, it's
it's both.
Speaker 8 (22:02):
It's definitely the Epstein case yesterday and then when the
reporter asked a question about it, you just shut it out,
Like I feel like there's something, you know, there's something
we're missing. Is there something we're missing here? Like we
were promised we were going to you know, see the
see the papers on it, and nothing's happening. It's just
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like it's the end of it and that's it, you know, like,
don't ask any more questions. So I feel like something
shady as well. I mean, he has done a lot
of good and I and I support him, I do
love him. I'm just like, you know, I'm not seeing
any financial difference, any prices at the grocery store going down,
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And to me, it's the same, you know, with about drill,
baby drill and all all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Let me ask you this because you're in Florida and
things are different. Honestly, things are better in Florida. I
mean just they were better before, Okay, compared to say,
here in Massachusetts. Are you noticing at least a difference
at the pump when you put gas into your car.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
I live from Eastern I just moved here four years ago,
and yeah, I'm probably ten cents at the pump. But
I wouldn't say anything great.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Interesting, interesting, Danielle. I can just tell you this. The
grocery prices a few items, like eggs. I've noticed eggs
have gone down a little bit. You're right, they're staying,
you know, stable, They're not going up. I'm happy at
least they're not going up. I'm telling you. For me,
the biggest one I felt is when I tank up
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my car. Under Biden, it was seventy five, seventy eight,
even eighty dollars to tank up. Now I can tank
up at about fifty to fifty five bucks. I mean
it depends, obviously, it fluctuates a little bit. So I'm
saving about twenty maybe even twenty five dollars every time
I tank up my car. For me, it's been noticeable.
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But I know gas in Florida is already cheaper than
here in Massachusetts, so maybe you know the decrease is
much less where you are. I can just tell you
for me, twenty bucks a week. I tank up about
once a week. Twenty bucks a week. It's it's in
my pocket. I'm not saying it's you know, it's everything,
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but it helps. But no, Danielle, look I hear you.
I'm very disappointed. I don't like this decision on Ukraine.
I think it's a bad decision. I can't stand to
cover up on Epstein like you. I did not like
his answer yesterday. I thought it made the situation even worse.
And you know I mean, and you're not the only one, Maga.
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The base right now is not happy on these two issues.
They're really not happy, Danielle. Thank you very much for
that call. Really good called six one seven two six
six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Bruce in Florida.
Thanks for holding Bruce and welcome, good morning.
Speaker 9 (25:14):
Thank you for taking my call. Jeff. I want to
be brief because I'm sure you have many callers that
feel the same way. My answer is no, no, no, no.
We voted for Trump as the peace candidate. He told
us again and again that he was going to solve
this problem, that he didn't want to get involved. He's
dealing with Putin, who's a geopolitical realist. It's time for
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someone to explain that to mister Trump, that international politics
is about geopolitics and realism. It's not about personal relationships.
It's not about sentimentalism. And the United States has much
bigger issues to face, as you said so eloquently, like
our own border. And there's no magic to mister Trump's
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personality that he's going to use his irresistible charm to
get Putin to eat out of his hand. Putin is
looking out for the national interest of his country and
there's no compromise here. As you said, he should have
the guts to say that we have to tell Ukraine
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to just make concessions. If not, it's up to our
wonderful European allies, and I'll tell you where they can go.
Thanks for taking my car.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Well, you're dead on, Bruce, You're dead on. Look. Someone
has to tell Zelenski you've lost the war. Okay, I
know I played it in my opening monologue, but I
want to play it again. Trump now clearly he is
at his wits end, frustrated with Putin, he is tired
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of He believes what Putin is doing is, as he
put it, tapping him along. And he says, we're having
conversations on the phone. He said, he wants peace. We
have all these peace conferences. They're in Istanbul, they're an
all over the all over the world. And yet really
what he was doing was preparing for war the whole time.
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And listen now to Trump us very you know, uh,
let's put it this way, explative language, and to let
Putin know publicly he's he's had it. Roll cut two
b Mike.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I gave them the javelins.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Remember they said Trump gave the javelins and Obama gave
them sheets. Right, they called Obama at that time, Barack
U said, Obama, if you haven't heard, did a terrible job.
But that was a war, that that was a war
that should have never happened.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
And a lot of people are dying and it should end.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
And I don't know, we get we get, we get
a lot of vote thrown at us by Putin for
you one another truth. It's very nice all the time,
but it turns out to be meaningless.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
So you can see he's upset. He feels that Putin,
as I said earlier, he played him for a fool
and he thought, you know, Putin really wanted peace, he
would settle for what he has right now in eastern
Ukraine and hammer out a deal with Zelensky. And instead
Putin now sensing a massive advantage, the Ukrainians now clearly
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are breaking. Their morale is low. The military now is
starting a fracture. They are starting to lose. It's slow,
but they are losing territory. And his generals now believe
fifty thousand fresh troops now being added to the Russian
front lines that they can now punch through and really
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deliver a massive decisive blow force Zelensky to the peace
table to sue for peace. Now, my question to you
now that he is going to put the full weight
of his presidency behind Zelenski, and he's now committing to
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sending all of these defensive weapons and it's going to
be a big, multi billion dollar package. Now, if Zelenski loses,
it's going to be on Trump's watch it's Trump is
going to be in some ways held partially responsible. See
that's another reason why I don't like this decision. Up
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until this point, he can very plausibly say, in fact,
honestly say, look, I tried to make peace. This was
Biden's war. It happened under Biden. He's right. Biden pushed
NATO right up to Putin's front porch, and that's what
triggered the war. And now it's you know, it is
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what it is. And I've done everything possible to get
the two sides to come together, to try to get
the two sides to hammer out a deal. But if
they're not willing to hammer out a deal, that on them.
I did everything I could. I wash my hands, I
walk away. Even if Ukraine is false, even if Ukraine
is defeated. Let's say, just worst case scenario, the Russians
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take the capital Kiev, which I don't think they will,
but just for the sake of argument, then yes, it'll
send shockwaves across Europe. Yes, NATO will be very angry,
but it won't be Trump's fault. Trump can turn around
and say, look, don't blame me, blame Zelenski. I told him,
sue for peace when you add a chance for peace.
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And this is on Biden's hands, it's at his feet.
He's the one that pushed NATO. He's the one that
kept throwing more weapons and more weapons and more weapons,
and more money and more money and more money. He
was the one that invested everything in propping up Zelenski.
Now Trump is going to be blamed should the war
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turn earned badly for you, I mean really badly for Ukraine,
because now he's putting American arms, American weapons, American dollars,
taxpayer dollars behind Ukraine. That's why it's a swamp, or
to be more accurate, it's quicksand. And let me tell
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you where I think the original sin was that mineral
rights deal that was signed a couple months ago. Because
now by signing that mineral rights deal, we have an
economic interest and economic stake in Ukraine. So economically, now
it starts to suck a sin. It's like quicksand you
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come in, it's just at your ankles. You go a
little further, it's at your knees, and then before you
know it, it's up to your hip, your waist, and
now you're not just waste deep. But soon you're gonna
be eyeball deep. And that's my fear now is we've
gone from this minute uneral rights deal and now it's
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a defensive weapons package billions of dollars. And what happens
when that doesn't work? Because it won't work. All it's
going to do is prolonged the fighting expand the fighting.
The body count is just going to pile up even more.
And so the more Russians die, the more Putent wants
more territory to justify the sacrifices of all the Russian troops.
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The more Ukrainians die, the more the Ukrainians are going
to insist on Zelensky, no peace, no concessions of any kind.
And so the war is just going to go on
and on and on, almost like a pointless stalemate. So
I'm looking at this and I'm like, what's in it
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for us? What do we get out of it? What's
in the American national interest? None? Literally none? And this
Lindsey Graham, I'm telling you, he's calling in his chips.
He backed a big, beautiful bill. Now he wants payback.
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This is from all the establishment Republicans that held their nose.
They don't like Trump. They don't like America first, they
don't like MAGA and who said, you know what, We're
going to support you on the big beautiful bill, We're
going to support you in other things. But now you
got to pay the piper, and the price is weapons
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to Ukraine and keep these endless wars going. Just my
honest opinion, Agree, disagree six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight. Larry in Lemonster, Thanks for holding Larry,
and welcome.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Good morning, Jeff. Uh Trump is like an all star ballplayer,
has a great streak of wins, gets cocky, and now
he's had a bunch of unforced errors this week.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Interesting. Can you elaborate a little bit there.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Larry, Well, a couple of your callers that elaborated to it.
His comments with Pambonni only made the Epsteine thing worse.
You know, he should have let her give a textbook
answer and moved on. But him interrupting and getting in
the way of that and scolding us for wanting to
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know the truth, that's not a good look. He himself,
you had mentioned that the Pentagon said it, but he
himself said that we're desperately low on our weapons and
such like that. Just like the oils and drained from
the reserves, the weapons have been drained. He said it too.
(34:47):
And now he's like, give given more away. We should
concentrate on us rebuilding our stockpiles. Like the lady said, Drill, baby, drill,
get back to it. He's got some good things coming
on the horizon. He doesn't need to be making these
unforced errors yet.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Well, I've got to tell you, Larry, in all the
years that i've been covering Trump, and I've been with them,
as you know, i've covered him from the beginning, I've
never seen the base this angry with him on these
two issues, on Ukraine and of course on Epstein. And
look by the way it destroys the myth of the
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media that his supporters are part of a cult, that
they hero worship the guy, that he can do no wrong,
that whatever he says people just salute. No, that's clearly
that's a lie, and you can see it in the
just in the last twenty four to forty eight hours.
They're not No, they still support him. Of course I
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still support him, there's no question, but they're not happy
with them. They disagree with him vehemently on Epstein. They
smell a cover up, They sense a cover up, and
I agree with you. He fumbled it. He really fumbled
it bad. You know, he could have handled it many ways.
He could have just let Pam BONDI answer the question
about Epstein and just basically, you know, like, okay, it's
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her decision. You know, she's the attorney General, she's technically independent.
That's her call. Whatever she decides, she decides. He could
have done that. He could have even said this, Larry,
and you tell me what you think. We made a
decision on Epstein. We made it for multiple reasons, and
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I'm not going to elaborate on why. But this was
a decision that Pam felt strongly about. I felt strongly
about Cash Betel, Dan Bongino. And that's all we're going
to say about it and move on. In other words,
wink wink, I have my reasons, you know, and just
move on. But you're right, Larry. For him, he basically
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he attacked his own base for him to say, what
you guys are still going on about Epstein? Who the
hell cares about that loser, that creep? What do you
guys say, Hey, I just got the big, beautiful bill.
And then when he went on about Texas and he said, well,
this is a desecration of the victims in Texas by
even asking a question about Epstein. I'm like, whoa what
(37:23):
whoa whoa whoa whoa? What does Texas have to do
with any of this? You, your administration, your DOJ, your FBI
made a major reversal on a major campaign promise. You
were the one that made I mean you as in Trump,
You're the one that made a big issue about this.
On the campaign trail. You said you were going to
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release the Epstein files. You said the public would see everything.
Pam Bondi said we were going to see everything, Cash
Bettellent Dan Bongino said we were going to see everything.
And then you guys do again a complete one eighty,
a complete and utter reversal. You do the very opposite.
You break a major campaign promise like Frankly he's doing
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now on Ukraine, and suddenly now you're using the dead
children in Texas as an excuse that we shouldn't ask
us any questions or or ask for answers. So he
insulted his own base, and I thought that was a
big mistake. That was a big mistake. But the reason
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why he did it, Larry, was because, to be fair
to him, he wanted everybody to know, hey, stop attacking
people like me. It was aimed at people like me,
not just me, but people like me, Laura Loomer, I
could go on and on. Okay, many of these mega influencers,
Bennie Johnson on a who are really not happy, you know,
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Steve Bannon, I could go on. It was aimed at
people like us, saying, hey, don't call for her resignation.
Don't blame her. It was my decision. Okay, my decision,
So don't blame Patel, don't blame Bongino, don't blame Pambondi.
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It was my decision. He wanted to take full ownership
of it. And Larry, look, I'll tell you what. Let
me play the cut, and then I want to get
your reaction because I think, honestly, he shouldn't have done it.
It was the way he did it almost as much
as what he did. This is now Trump Cabinet meeting yesterday,
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He's asked by a reporter about Jeffrey Epstein and the
decision by Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, Dan Bongino that they
now have come out and said the case is closed,
that this was a suicide, and that there was no
client list, there was no one was blackmailed, and that
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no one will be investigated, no one else is going
to be charged or prosecuted. As far as they're concerned,
this thing is over. I won't even talk about it.
Roll cut nine, Mike.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Let's some lingering mysteries. One of the biggest ones is
whether he ever worked for an American or foreign intelligence agency.
The former Leaguer secretary who is Miami US attorney Alex Costa,
allegedly said that he did work for an intelligence agency.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
So could you resolve whether or not he did?
Speaker 4 (40:26):
And also could you see why there was a minute
missing from the jailhouse team on the nside.
Speaker 7 (40:31):
Yeah, I just interested. Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?
This guy's been talked about for years. You're asking, we
have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things,
and are people still talking about this guy?
Speaker 2 (40:45):
This creep that is unbelievable. Do you want to waste
the time and do you feel like answering? I don't
mind answering.
Speaker 7 (40:52):
I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on
at Epstein at a time like this where we're having
some of the greatest success and so tragedy with what
happened in Texas, it just seems like a desecration.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
A desecration to ask about Jeffrey Epstein. Are you kidding me?
See that's Larry, that's that did not sit well. He
got I've never seen this, but the blowback that he got,
those are from his diehard supporters, millions and millions and
millions were like, what he should not have said it.
(41:29):
I'm telling you he should not have said it. And
let me just say one other thing, and I want
to go right back to you, Larry. It's not about Epstein,
and he knows that, of course, and Pam Bondi knows it.
They all know it. It's about the sex trafficking network.
That he was at the center of a sex trafficking
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network that implicated and ensnared hundreds and hundreds of the
most powerful people in business, in politics, and entertainment, in Hollywood,
you name it. And the thousands of victims of underage girls, boys,
children that were molested, exploited, and raped. So no one
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cares about Epstein. It's about what he did. It's about
what he videotaped. It's about who he blockmailed. It's about
the people who are crying out for justice and the
fact now that his DOJ and his FBI broke a
central promise, and now not only breaking their central promise,
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they're engaging in an obvious cover up. And you can
sense from Trump he's he's super touchy, very uncomfortable because
he's going on he's trying to invoke now the bodies
of the dead girls in Texas and saying, how dare
you ask this question? You're desecrating them. Well, you were
the one that made Epstein such a big issue during
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the campaign. You were the one that ordered the files
to be released. They're not releasing the files, So he
should not have said what he said. I'm telling you, Larry,
on Epstein and on Ukraine, many in Maga now feel betrayed.
And you're right. It's almost like Trump can't stand political prosperity.
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He has two of the most amazing weeks a president
has ever had, and then he's got to shoot himself
in the foot, and look he's starting to hemorrhage support.
I can see it. I can tell. Look the emails
I got yesterday, the comments on message on messenger on Facebook,
(43:46):
the texts I got from people now they're still gonna
know they're with the guy. They voted for him. But
the last twenty four hours big mistake. He should he
should go back to his original Ukraine and he should
go with the Epstein files and say we're going to
release it and anyway, it's clear now it's a cover
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up and it's being directly orchestrated and ordered by Trump. Larry,
what say you, Jeff?
Speaker 5 (44:17):
Before I say what are you? In reply to that,
I want to thank you for triggering a memory you
would when I call in, I list either follow you
on X get the topic, or as soon as you
open I know what to talk about it. I wanted
to point out when I called in, but it slipped
my mind. You just reminded me this should be a
lesson to Bill and Sudbury, bend Over, bend Over, whatever
(44:40):
you want to call him, the two schmucks in Gloucester
when they're wrong. We pointed out they defended the vegetable
for four years to the very end. He could do
no wrong. Here we are pointing out everything that Trump
is screwing up this week. So thank you for reminding
me on that. The whole problem is, like you said,
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it's the perception. When I hear him say move on
from Epstein, I have the flashback of the influencers they
had invited to the White House in February and they're
all holding up the Ebstein file Phase one or Part
one or whatever the hell it was called, and suddenly
there isn't any right then, when he says we're going
(45:28):
to keep funding this war in Ukraine, I have flashback
to him scolding Caitlyn Kate Collins, Kitlyn Collins, whatever her
name is, I want people to stop dying. That was
his campaign. And now he's saying, ah, well, no, we're
(45:49):
going to let this prolong. And you know, like you said,
it's it's a losing battle. All that he's doing is
providing them enough time to get more people killed. On
your one as far as Ukraine.
Speaker 9 (46:02):
Goes, one of the best pieces of advice I.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
Ever got is in the Tug of War of Life,
there is no nothing in the rule book that says
you can't let go of the rope and walk away.
He should have walked.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Away, Larry. This is one of your best calls, really
really really good call, and an honest call. I mean,
your calls are always honest, but especially honest today, Larry,
thank you very much for that call. Six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay,
(46:41):
let me just do a very quick reset and then
I want to get right back to the phone lines.
President Trump now says that he's going to be sending
Ukraine defensive weapons. It's going to be an extensive weapons package.
We're looking at billions of dollars, now, what is clear.
And his administration admits this. This is not enough for
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Ukraine to win the war. It's not enough, but it's
enough for Ukraine to keep fighting and to live another day.
And I'm sorry, but this is essentially the bite. It is.
It's the Biden policy. That's what Biden did. He gave
him enough weapons so they could keep fighting and fighting
and fighting, but never enough for them to potentially win
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the war. So I look at this and I say,
this is Biden two point zero, at least on Ukraine
and on Epstein. It was all cover up, cover up,
cover up. So when it comes to the Epstein case
and it comes to Ukraine, it's a return to the
Biden policy. And I think that's the disappointment
Good morning, Coon Air contrary. Okay, a lot and I
mean a lot to talk about today. But one of
the big stories, I get it Epstein huge. And Trump
commented on that as well yesterday, essentially backing Pambondi, Cash
Battel and Dan Bongino and in a sense mocking many
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of his own supporters for even raising the issue of Epstein.
But what was also very, very newsworthy is that President
Trump now has done a complete one hundred and eighty
degree turn when it comes to supplying Ukraine with weapons.
(00:44):
He now says that Putin is hammering Ukraine, which is true.
The Russian dictator, the Russian strong man, is now launching
a massive summer offensive. It is obvious they've been planning
for this for months. They are now hitting Ukraine all
across the entire front. They're launching massive missile and drone strikes.
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Civilians are being killed, The Ukrainian military is buckling, and
the fear now is Russia may deliver a decisive blow
and break through Ukraine's front lines. Zelensky is desperately pleading
for help. He says, without American arms right now, Ukraine
(01:32):
could lose everything. So under pressure from Lindsey Graham, under
pressure from the Pentagon, under pressure from many warhawks and
NATO leaders. Trump now says he feels betrayed by Vladimir Putin,
that he has been strung along by the Russian leader
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who has been talking peace, peace, peace, paying lips lip
service to peace, sending a delegation to so called peace talks.
But as Trump said, all this guy does is wage war,
war war. Listen now to President Trump. He first announced
(02:15):
the change in policy. It was at a luncheon with
bb netting Yahoo on Monday, where he was asked by
a reporter, are you now planning on sending more weapons
to Ukraine? Listen to Trump's response, roll cut two d
a mic, President, are you planning.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
To send more weapons to Ukraine? We're going to send
some more weapons. We have to.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
They have to be able to defend themselves. They're getting
hit very hard. Now they're getting hit very hard. We're
gonna have to send more weapons, you defensive weapons primarily,
but they're getting hit very, very hard.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
So many people had dined in that mess.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
So basically he fears now a potential Ukrainian collapse and
obviously the loss of massive civilian lives if something is
not done, if Ukraine is not bolstered right now as
Russia makes its final push. Russia's generals have now told
Putin this is the summer offensive that will lead to
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the decisive breakthrough. Now again, yesterday, this was at the
Cabinet meeting and he was asked by This is CNN.
He was asked about the Pentagon. This is about maybe
a week ago. They had temporarily paused weapons shipments, not
just the Ukraine but to other countries around the world.
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But regarding Ukraine, artillery shells were held up, some key
missiles were held up, a lot of important military equipment
was paused. Why Listen to Trump's answer, basically saying, I
don't know why. There was some kind of an annual review,
but whether it was paused or not, Ukraine now is
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going to get a massive shipment of American arms, American weapons,
including now according to the Wall Street Journal, even another
Patriot missile system. So he's going to send them hellfire missiles,
long range missiles, artillery shells, Patriot missiles. In other words,
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he is going to arm Ukraine to the teeth to
fend off the Russian invasion and to keep Ukraine afloat
roll cut to see a mics to Ukraine.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
As you said last night, last week, the Pentagon paused
some shipments of weapons to Ukraine.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Did you approve of that loss.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
We wanted to put defensive weapons because Putin is not
he's not treating human beings right, He's killing too many people.
So we're sending some defensive weapons to Ukraine, and I have
approved that last week.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I don't know what and you tell me that's a question.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, he was taking a little shot at Caitlin Collins
at the end. You know, well, who ordered the pause,
I don't know. You tell me. Basically someone at the
Pentagon did. Now, this is very important. The reason why
the Pentagon temporarily ordered the pause, according to them, and
I believe them, is that they now say that the
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American stockpiles of Patriot missiles, frankly, even of artillery shells,
of basic weapons is now their words, dangerously low. That
we have basically now emptied out our inventories, not just
for Ukraine, but remember helping Israel fending off the attacks
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from Iran on our basis in Qatar and other places.
We also deliver weapons to other countries around the world.
So in essence, Now, according to the Pentagon, we are
no longer able to defend ourselves at this moment, we
are unable to defend the US homeland because we have
essentially depleted our inventories and our weapons stockpiles, and still
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we are going to go ahead with the decision to
arm Ukraine. Now, it is very very clear that Trump
feels lied to, misled, deceived by Vladimir Putin. He thought
Putin wanted some kind of a peace deal, that he
wanted to end this war after three long, brutal years. Instead,
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Putin was just stringing him along, as I said earlier,
talking peace piece piece out of one side of his mouth,
health and on the other side, launching now one of
the biggest offensives of the entire war. Civilians are being slaughtered,
the Ukrainian military is taking a beating, and Trump now says,
(07:13):
you're gonna lie to me, You're gonna pay a price. Now,
I'm gonna arm the Ukrainians, and We're gonna blunt your offensive.
We're gonna blunt your attack now on Ukraine. Listen now
to Trump clearly saying he's had enough with Vladimir Putin,
He's run out of patients, and he actually uses the
(07:34):
BS word to describe him roll cut to be a mike.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I gave them the javelins.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Remember they said Trump gave the javelins and Obama gave
them sheets. Right, they called Obama at that time Barack
Usain Obama, if you haven't heard, did a terrible job.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
But that was a war that that was a war
that she had never happened, and.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
A lot of people dying, and it should end.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
And I don't know, we get we get, we get
a lot of vote thrown at us by Putin.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
For you one another truth.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
It's very nice all the time, but it turns out
to be meaningless.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
So I mean now, I mean he's openly now had
it with Vladimir Putin and so this now he's made
a decision. It's a big reversal, make no question about it.
He campaigned on ending this war in Ukraine and between
Ukraine and Russia. He criticized Biden for sending weapon shipment
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after weaponshipment after weaponshipment. And now here we are, we
are back essentially to the Biden policy of essentially now
arming and funding Ukraine. Now let me just say this,
it was wrong under Biden and I still believe it's wrong.
Under Trump, I understand his humanitarian reasons. I understand he
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hates to see civilians being slaughtered. I don't like to
see civilians being killed as well. I understand that Putin
has lied to them, and that Putin has misled him
and in many ways played him for a fool. And
I understand all of the emotions that Trump feels. But
this is not America's fight. We have no strategic interests
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in eastern Ukraine or however much now the Russians and
the Ukrainians want to fight it out. This is not
our war. And the more we arm Ukraine, the deeper
we get embroiled into that war. And let me just
say one other thing that needs to be said. Ukraine
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has lost the war. There's no question they have lost
to don Bass. They have lost Crimea. They are never
going to get it back. And rather than level with Zelensky,
and I'm not just talking about Trump, I'm talking about
NATO and the West in general. And say, listen that
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eighteen to twenty percent of Ukrainian territory it's gone. You're
not going to get it back by continuing to arm Ukraine.
You are prolonging the bloodshed. You are going to be
prolonging the death and the slaughter and the meat grinder.
This is not going to reverse anything on the battlefield. Yes,
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it will bloody the Russians. Yes, it will slow their advance. Yes,
it will continue to weaken the Russian military, but in
the end, it will not change the fundamental facts on
the ground. And ultimately I blame Zelensky for all of this.
Had he sued for peace, this war would have been over.
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He could have kept over eighty percent of his country.
Ukraine would be going into the European Union. They could
be rebuilding and recovering. Instead, this senseless slaughter will continue
to go on. Six seven two six x sixty eight
sixty eight is the number. You can also text the
Kooner Man seven zero four seven zero seven zero four
(11:13):
seven zero. This is from Dave, our Western PA constitutionalist correspondent.
He's in the Pittsburgh area and he makes two actually
very good points. He said, Jeff, number one, you're one
thousand percent right on Ukraine. This is clearly not our
war and we should not be getting ourselves embroiled deeper
(11:35):
into it. However, he does say that Jeff, if there
is a silver lining here. It does prove that Trump
is not in bed with Russia, i e. The so
called Russia collusion hoax, despite all of the bs from
the media. Well, I mean, I don't know what they're
going to say now. I mean that's I think Dave
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makes an excellent point. I don't think we should be
sending any more or arms or weapons to Ukraine. I mean,
we've sent them now one hundred and seventy five billion
dollars worth. But if you combine financial aid money and
the weaponry the weapons that we've sent, I think we've
sent them an off. So but if you know, if
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there's a silver lining, if there's a to me, a
bright side to this, how are you going to argue
Russia collusion now? I mean you couldn't argue it before,
but now so now he's going to be arming Ukraine
to the teeth. He's going to be sent Yes, they're
defensive weapons, but it doesn't matter. That's some real firepower
we're sending to Ukraine. We're talking patriot missile systems, We're
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talking hell fire missiles, long range missiles, a ton of
artillery shells. I mean, Ukraine is they're going to be
ready now to weather this summer offensive. Now, let me
just make a couple of other quick points, and I'd
really like to open it up to the phone lines.
Six one seven two six, six sixty eight sixty eight.
(13:05):
Let me ask all of you fairly, just simple question.
Trump now says, reversing himself, that he now is going
to arm Ukraine. He is going to send them weapons, arms.
In fact, immediately shipments are going to start flowing into
Ukraine for them to use on the front lines against
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the advancing Russian army. Do you agree with Trump's decision
or do you think now that he has broken a promise,
a key promise, and that we should stay out of
this war as he said we were going to do initially.
Are you disappointed in Trump or do you support him
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on this issue? I'd love to hear from you. Six
one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight is
the number. Look, Zelenski is still a crook to me.
Nothing has change changed. The Ukrainian regime is still the
Ukrainian regime. And just like they stole under Biden, they're
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going to steal under Trump. I mean, it's just that's
what they do. Some of the weapons will get to
the front lines. Yes, many, much of it is not.
They're going to sell it on the black market and
line their pockets. So that's another reason why I oppose
sending weapons and arms to Ukraine, because they're going to
continue to rip us off. And by the way, we
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send Israel, just to give you an example, much less,
infinitely less than what we have sent to Ukraine. But
look at how effective Israel's military is. And one of
the reasons is when you don't steal and you actually
use the weapons for what they're intended for. Look how
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good and effective they can be. But you know, let
that go. My point is Zelenski's still there, that a
little crook is still there. He's going to continue to
steal and siphon off some of the weapons and sell
it on the black market. He his cronies and people
who and his inner circle. So again it's going to
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be more money that are American money, taxpayer money, right
down a rat hole. Furthermore, I'm sorry, but I've said
this many times before. I am not Ukraine first, I'm
not Russia first, I'm not Canada first, I'm not Croatia first,
I'm not NATO first. I'm nobody first, I'm America first.
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And our stockpiles and our inventories are now dangerously low.
Our own pentagon says, it is dangerously low. If we're
not even able to protect our own homeland, what the
hell are we doing sending even more weapons to Ukraine.
In the end, this is now their war. This is
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a war between Russia and Ukraine. And to be honest,
I think Trump is making a mistake not just by
sending them the weapons, but by continuing to put his
prestige and his political capital on the line in a
search for some kind of a peace deal. Because what
he's clearly trying to do, and in a sense, I
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can see a strategy which is, let the Ukrainians punch
Russia in the nose again, in other words, give the
Russians a big, bloody nose, Let the summer offensive get blunted,
Let more Russians die, Let this offensive fail again or
just peter out. Yes, more Ukrainians will die, more Russians
(16:49):
will die. But maybe then by rebalancing the battlefield and
beefing and bolstering the Ukrainian forces, the eventually putin and
three three months, four months, five months, whenever by the fall,
we'll be ready to come back to the peace table.
You can't force peace on two combatants who don't want it.
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Putin doesn't want peace. It's obvious. Zelenski doesn't want peace.
It's obvious at this point. Let them fight it out.
Let them fight it out. This is not our war.
And there's no dishonor in President Trump saying, look, I
try to make peace. I put pressure on Russia. I
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put pressure on Zelensky. I tried to set up peace
conference after peace conference. You know what, I gave it
six months. Okay, let me ask all of you. I
want to go right to the phone lines six one
seven two, six, six, sixty eight sixty eight. It is
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a very simple, basic question. Should President Trump send defensive
weapons to Ukraine? He now says they're going to be
sending arms to Ukraine. There's going to be a lot
of them. It's not just you know, we're not talking
(18:20):
about a few bullets and a few shells. This is
going to be a serious weapons package. It's not going
to be the kind of stuff that could allow Ukraine,
say to attack Moscow or Saint Petersburg. But these are
formidable weapons that are aimed to utterly stop and blunt
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the massive Russian summer offensive that is now taking place.
And look, make no mistake about it, this will prolong
the war. In fact, that's the intention. Trump is very
worried now that Ukraine's military can just collapse, and so
this is now a desperate effort to prop up Zelenski
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and prop up the Ukrainian military which is now taking
a beating from his huge Russian onslaught six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight. So the pro question,
should President Trump send defensive weapons to Ukraine aes B.
Speaker 8 (19:24):
No.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
You know where I stand. I thought his original position
was the best position. No, but that's me I want
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for holding and welcome.
Speaker 9 (20:11):
How are you.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I'm good. How are you, Danielle.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
I'm good. I have a little bit of a cold.
I'm a first time caller.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Welcome done, Thank you.
Speaker 8 (20:22):
Excuse me. I do not think we should be sending
to Ukraine. I think we've sent a woman enough. And
we voted for Trump. I'm very disappointed with Trump. I
feel like I voted for him for peace and other things,
and I feel like I just keep getting more disappointed
and more disappointed. I'm trying to keep my trust in him,
(20:45):
but it's very hot at this point.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Well, Danielle, let me ask you this. He's delivered on
the border, he delivered on the big beautiful bill. Inflation
is starting to come down finally. On employment now is
what four point one almost four percent. He got NATO
to pony up five percent every country except Spain five
(21:11):
percent of all military defense spending. So NATO now is
going to be flush with cash. He's winning at the
Supreme Court again and again and again. The deportations are
really starting to rev up now. Crime is down in
many cities. He bombed Iran's nuclear sites he got peace
(21:32):
between the Rwanda and Congo, peace between Pakistan and India,
to nuclear powers. He looks like he may even have
a ceasefire now between Israel and Gaza. So, in other words,
Trump is delivering a lot in his first six months.
Is it just this issue that upsets you, Danielle or
(21:54):
is it the Epstein case? What else is bothering you
that makes you feel so disappointed in Trump? Well, it's
it's both.
Speaker 8 (22:02):
It's definitely the Epstein case yesterday and then when the
reporter asked a question about it, you just shut it out,
Like I feel like there's something, you know, there's something
we're missing. Is there something we're missing here? Like we
were promised we were going to you know, see the
see the papers on it, and nothing's happening. It's just
(22:24):
like it's the end of it and that's it, you know, like,
don't ask any more questions. So I feel like something
shady as well. I mean, he has done a lot
of good and I and I support him, I do
love him. I'm just like, you know, I'm not seeing
any financial difference, any prices at the grocery store going down,
(22:49):
And to me, it's the same, you know, with about drill,
baby drill and all all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Let me ask you this because you're in Florida and
things are different. Honestly, things are better in Florida. I
mean just they were better before, Okay, compared to say,
here in Massachusetts. Are you noticing at least a difference
at the pump when you put gas into your car.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
I live from Eastern I just moved here four years ago,
and yeah, I'm probably ten cents at the pump. But
I wouldn't say anything great.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Interesting, interesting, Danielle. I can just tell you this. The
grocery prices a few items, like eggs. I've noticed eggs
have gone down a little bit. You're right, they're staying,
you know, stable, They're not going up. I'm happy at
least they're not going up. I'm telling you. For me,
the biggest one I felt is when I tank up
(23:47):
my car. Under Biden, it was seventy five, seventy eight,
even eighty dollars to tank up. Now I can tank
up at about fifty to fifty five bucks. I mean
it depends, obviously, it fluctuates a little bit. So I'm
saving about twenty maybe even twenty five dollars every time
I tank up my car. For me, it's been noticeable.
(24:10):
But I know gas in Florida is already cheaper than
here in Massachusetts, so maybe you know the decrease is
much less where you are. I can just tell you
for me, twenty bucks a week. I tank up about
once a week. Twenty bucks a week. It's it's in
my pocket. I'm not saying it's you know, it's everything,
(24:30):
but it helps. But no, Danielle, look I hear you.
I'm very disappointed. I don't like this decision on Ukraine.
I think it's a bad decision. I can't stand to
cover up on Epstein like you. I did not like
his answer yesterday. I thought it made the situation even worse.
And you know I mean, and you're not the only one, Maga.
(24:53):
The base right now is not happy on these two issues.
They're really not happy, Danielle. Thank you very much for
that call. Really good called six one seven two six
six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Bruce in Florida.
Thanks for holding Bruce and welcome, good morning.
Speaker 9 (25:14):
Thank you for taking my call. Jeff. I want to
be brief because I'm sure you have many callers that
feel the same way. My answer is no, no, no, no.
We voted for Trump as the peace candidate. He told
us again and again that he was going to solve
this problem, that he didn't want to get involved. He's
dealing with Putin, who's a geopolitical realist. It's time for
(25:38):
someone to explain that to mister Trump, that international politics
is about geopolitics and realism. It's not about personal relationships.
It's not about sentimentalism. And the United States has much
bigger issues to face, as you said so eloquently, like
our own border. And there's no magic to mister Trump's
(26:00):
personality that he's going to use his irresistible charm to
get Putin to eat out of his hand. Putin is
looking out for the national interest of his country and
there's no compromise here. As you said, he should have
the guts to say that we have to tell Ukraine
(26:22):
to just make concessions. If not, it's up to our
wonderful European allies, and I'll tell you where they can go.
Thanks for taking my car.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Well, you're dead on, Bruce, You're dead on. Look. Someone
has to tell Zelenski you've lost the war. Okay, I
know I played it in my opening monologue, but I
want to play it again. Trump now clearly he is
at his wits end, frustrated with Putin, he is tired
(26:51):
of He believes what Putin is doing is, as he
put it, tapping him along. And he says, we're having
conversations on the phone. He said, he wants peace. We
have all these peace conferences. They're in Istanbul, they're an
all over the all over the world. And yet really
what he was doing was preparing for war the whole time.
(27:11):
And listen now to Trump us very you know, uh,
let's put it this way, explative language, and to let
Putin know publicly he's he's had it. Roll cut two
b Mike.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I gave them the javelins.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Remember they said Trump gave the javelins and Obama gave
them sheets. Right, they called Obama at that time, Barack
U said, Obama, if you haven't heard, did a terrible job.
But that was a war, that that was a war
that should have never happened.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
And a lot of people are dying and it should end.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
And I don't know, we get we get, we get
a lot of vote thrown at us by Putin for
you one another truth. It's very nice all the time,
but it turns out to be meaningless.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
So you can see he's upset. He feels that Putin,
as I said earlier, he played him for a fool
and he thought, you know, Putin really wanted peace, he
would settle for what he has right now in eastern
Ukraine and hammer out a deal with Zelensky. And instead
Putin now sensing a massive advantage, the Ukrainians now clearly
(28:23):
are breaking. Their morale is low. The military now is
starting a fracture. They are starting to lose. It's slow,
but they are losing territory. And his generals now believe
fifty thousand fresh troops now being added to the Russian
front lines that they can now punch through and really
(28:45):
deliver a massive decisive blow force Zelensky to the peace
table to sue for peace. Now, my question to you
now that he is going to put the full weight
of his presidency behind Zelenski, and he's now committing to
(29:05):
sending all of these defensive weapons and it's going to
be a big, multi billion dollar package. Now, if Zelenski loses,
it's going to be on Trump's watch it's Trump is
going to be in some ways held partially responsible. See
that's another reason why I don't like this decision. Up
(29:26):
until this point, he can very plausibly say, in fact,
honestly say, look, I tried to make peace. This was
Biden's war. It happened under Biden. He's right. Biden pushed
NATO right up to Putin's front porch, and that's what
triggered the war. And now it's you know, it is
(29:49):
what it is. And I've done everything possible to get
the two sides to come together, to try to get
the two sides to hammer out a deal. But if
they're not willing to hammer out a deal, that on them.
I did everything I could. I wash my hands, I
walk away. Even if Ukraine is false, even if Ukraine
is defeated. Let's say, just worst case scenario, the Russians
(30:12):
take the capital Kiev, which I don't think they will,
but just for the sake of argument, then yes, it'll
send shockwaves across Europe. Yes, NATO will be very angry,
but it won't be Trump's fault. Trump can turn around
and say, look, don't blame me, blame Zelenski. I told him,
sue for peace when you add a chance for peace.
(30:35):
And this is on Biden's hands, it's at his feet.
He's the one that pushed NATO. He's the one that
kept throwing more weapons and more weapons and more weapons,
and more money and more money and more money. He
was the one that invested everything in propping up Zelenski.
Now Trump is going to be blamed should the war
(30:59):
turn earned badly for you, I mean really badly for Ukraine,
because now he's putting American arms, American weapons, American dollars,
taxpayer dollars behind Ukraine. That's why it's a swamp, or
to be more accurate, it's quicksand. And let me tell
(31:20):
you where I think the original sin was that mineral
rights deal that was signed a couple months ago. Because
now by signing that mineral rights deal, we have an
economic interest and economic stake in Ukraine. So economically, now
it starts to suck a sin. It's like quicksand you
(31:42):
come in, it's just at your ankles. You go a
little further, it's at your knees, and then before you
know it, it's up to your hip, your waist, and
now you're not just waste deep. But soon you're gonna
be eyeball deep. And that's my fear now is we've
gone from this minute uneral rights deal and now it's
(32:03):
a defensive weapons package billions of dollars. And what happens
when that doesn't work? Because it won't work. All it's
going to do is prolonged the fighting expand the fighting.
The body count is just going to pile up even more.
And so the more Russians die, the more Putent wants
more territory to justify the sacrifices of all the Russian troops.
(32:27):
The more Ukrainians die, the more the Ukrainians are going
to insist on Zelensky, no peace, no concessions of any kind.
And so the war is just going to go on
and on and on, almost like a pointless stalemate. So
I'm looking at this and I'm like, what's in it
(32:48):
for us? What do we get out of it? What's
in the American national interest? None? Literally none? And this
Lindsey Graham, I'm telling you, he's calling in his chips.
He backed a big, beautiful bill. Now he wants payback.
(33:08):
This is from all the establishment Republicans that held their nose.
They don't like Trump. They don't like America first, they
don't like MAGA and who said, you know what, We're
going to support you on the big beautiful bill, We're
going to support you in other things. But now you
got to pay the piper, and the price is weapons
(33:28):
to Ukraine and keep these endless wars going. Just my
honest opinion, Agree, disagree six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight. Larry in Lemonster, Thanks for holding Larry,
and welcome.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Good morning, Jeff. Uh Trump is like an all star ballplayer,
has a great streak of wins, gets cocky, and now
he's had a bunch of unforced errors this week.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Interesting. Can you elaborate a little bit there.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Larry, Well, a couple of your callers that elaborated to it.
His comments with Pambonni only made the Epsteine thing worse.
You know, he should have let her give a textbook
answer and moved on. But him interrupting and getting in
the way of that and scolding us for wanting to
(34:27):
know the truth, that's not a good look. He himself,
you had mentioned that the Pentagon said it, but he
himself said that we're desperately low on our weapons and
such like that. Just like the oils and drained from
the reserves, the weapons have been drained. He said it too.
(34:47):
And now he's like, give given more away. We should
concentrate on us rebuilding our stockpiles. Like the lady said, Drill, baby, drill,
get back to it. He's got some good things coming
on the horizon. He doesn't need to be making these
unforced errors yet.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Well, I've got to tell you, Larry, in all the
years that i've been covering Trump, and I've been with them,
as you know, i've covered him from the beginning, I've
never seen the base this angry with him on these
two issues, on Ukraine and of course on Epstein. And
look by the way it destroys the myth of the
(35:31):
media that his supporters are part of a cult, that
they hero worship the guy, that he can do no wrong,
that whatever he says people just salute. No, that's clearly
that's a lie, and you can see it in the
just in the last twenty four to forty eight hours.
They're not No, they still support him. Of course I
(35:52):
still support him, there's no question, but they're not happy
with them. They disagree with him vehemently on Epstein. They
smell a cover up, They sense a cover up, and
I agree with you. He fumbled it. He really fumbled
it bad. You know, he could have handled it many ways.
He could have just let Pam BONDI answer the question
about Epstein and just basically, you know, like, okay, it's
(36:14):
her decision. You know, she's the attorney General, she's technically independent.
That's her call. Whatever she decides, she decides. He could
have done that. He could have even said this, Larry,
and you tell me what you think. We made a
decision on Epstein. We made it for multiple reasons, and
(36:35):
I'm not going to elaborate on why. But this was
a decision that Pam felt strongly about. I felt strongly
about Cash Betel, Dan Bongino. And that's all we're going
to say about it and move on. In other words,
wink wink, I have my reasons, you know, and just
move on. But you're right, Larry. For him, he basically
(37:00):
he attacked his own base for him to say, what
you guys are still going on about Epstein? Who the
hell cares about that loser, that creep? What do you
guys say, Hey, I just got the big, beautiful bill.
And then when he went on about Texas and he said, well,
this is a desecration of the victims in Texas by
even asking a question about Epstein. I'm like, whoa what
(37:23):
whoa whoa whoa whoa? What does Texas have to do
with any of this? You, your administration, your DOJ, your FBI
made a major reversal on a major campaign promise. You
were the one that made I mean you as in Trump,
You're the one that made a big issue about this.
On the campaign trail. You said you were going to
(37:45):
release the Epstein files. You said the public would see everything.
Pam Bondi said we were going to see everything, Cash
Bettellent Dan Bongino said we were going to see everything.
And then you guys do again a complete one eighty,
a complete and utter reversal. You do the very opposite.
You break a major campaign promise like Frankly he's doing
(38:07):
now on Ukraine, and suddenly now you're using the dead
children in Texas as an excuse that we shouldn't ask
us any questions or or ask for answers. So he
insulted his own base, and I thought that was a
big mistake. That was a big mistake. But the reason
(38:27):
why he did it, Larry, was because, to be fair
to him, he wanted everybody to know, hey, stop attacking
people like me. It was aimed at people like me,
not just me, but people like me, Laura Loomer, I
could go on and on. Okay, many of these mega influencers,
Bennie Johnson on a who are really not happy, you know,
(38:49):
Steve Bannon, I could go on. It was aimed at
people like us, saying, hey, don't call for her resignation.
Don't blame her. It was my decision. Okay, my decision,
So don't blame Patel, don't blame Bongino, don't blame Pambondi.
(39:10):
It was my decision. He wanted to take full ownership
of it. And Larry, look, I'll tell you what. Let
me play the cut, and then I want to get
your reaction because I think, honestly, he shouldn't have done it.
It was the way he did it almost as much
as what he did. This is now Trump Cabinet meeting yesterday,
(39:31):
He's asked by a reporter about Jeffrey Epstein and the
decision by Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, Dan Bongino that they
now have come out and said the case is closed,
that this was a suicide, and that there was no
client list, there was no one was blackmailed, and that
(39:51):
no one will be investigated, no one else is going
to be charged or prosecuted. As far as they're concerned,
this thing is over. I won't even talk about it.
Roll cut nine, Mike.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Let's some lingering mysteries. One of the biggest ones is
whether he ever worked for an American or foreign intelligence agency.
The former Leaguer secretary who is Miami US attorney Alex Costa,
allegedly said that he did work for an intelligence agency.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
So could you resolve whether or not he did?
Speaker 4 (40:26):
And also could you see why there was a minute
missing from the jailhouse team on the nside.
Speaker 7 (40:31):
Yeah, I just interested. Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?
This guy's been talked about for years. You're asking, we
have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things,
and are people still talking about this guy?
Speaker 2 (40:45):
This creep that is unbelievable. Do you want to waste
the time and do you feel like answering? I don't
mind answering.
Speaker 7 (40:52):
I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on
at Epstein at a time like this where we're having
some of the greatest success and so tragedy with what
happened in Texas, it just seems like a desecration.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
A desecration to ask about Jeffrey Epstein. Are you kidding me?
See that's Larry, that's that did not sit well. He
got I've never seen this, but the blowback that he got,
those are from his diehard supporters, millions and millions and
millions were like, what he should not have said it.
(41:29):
I'm telling you he should not have said it. And
let me just say one other thing, and I want
to go right back to you, Larry. It's not about Epstein,
and he knows that, of course, and Pam Bondi knows it.
They all know it. It's about the sex trafficking network.
That he was at the center of a sex trafficking
(41:49):
network that implicated and ensnared hundreds and hundreds of the
most powerful people in business, in politics, and entertainment, in Hollywood,
you name it. And the thousands of victims of underage girls, boys,
children that were molested, exploited, and raped. So no one
(42:14):
cares about Epstein. It's about what he did. It's about
what he videotaped. It's about who he blockmailed. It's about
the people who are crying out for justice and the
fact now that his DOJ and his FBI broke a
central promise, and now not only breaking their central promise,
(42:36):
they're engaging in an obvious cover up. And you can
sense from Trump he's he's super touchy, very uncomfortable because
he's going on he's trying to invoke now the bodies
of the dead girls in Texas and saying, how dare
you ask this question? You're desecrating them. Well, you were
the one that made Epstein such a big issue during
(42:58):
the campaign. You were the one that ordered the files
to be released. They're not releasing the files, So he
should not have said what he said. I'm telling you, Larry,
on Epstein and on Ukraine, many in Maga now feel betrayed.
And you're right. It's almost like Trump can't stand political prosperity.
(43:21):
He has two of the most amazing weeks a president
has ever had, and then he's got to shoot himself
in the foot, and look he's starting to hemorrhage support.
I can see it. I can tell. Look the emails
I got yesterday, the comments on message on messenger on Facebook,
(43:46):
the texts I got from people now they're still gonna
know they're with the guy. They voted for him. But
the last twenty four hours big mistake. He should he
should go back to his original Ukraine and he should
go with the Epstein files and say we're going to
release it and anyway, it's clear now it's a cover
(44:08):
up and it's being directly orchestrated and ordered by Trump. Larry,
what say you, Jeff?
Speaker 5 (44:17):
Before I say what are you? In reply to that,
I want to thank you for triggering a memory you
would when I call in, I list either follow you
on X get the topic, or as soon as you
open I know what to talk about it. I wanted
to point out when I called in, but it slipped
my mind. You just reminded me this should be a
lesson to Bill and Sudbury, bend Over, bend Over, whatever
(44:40):
you want to call him, the two schmucks in Gloucester
when they're wrong. We pointed out they defended the vegetable
for four years to the very end. He could do
no wrong. Here we are pointing out everything that Trump
is screwing up this week. So thank you for reminding
me on that. The whole problem is, like you said,
(45:02):
it's the perception. When I hear him say move on
from Epstein, I have the flashback of the influencers they
had invited to the White House in February and they're
all holding up the Ebstein file Phase one or Part
one or whatever the hell it was called, and suddenly
there isn't any right then, when he says we're going
(45:28):
to keep funding this war in Ukraine, I have flashback
to him scolding Caitlyn Kate Collins, Kitlyn Collins, whatever her
name is, I want people to stop dying. That was
his campaign. And now he's saying, ah, well, no, we're
(45:49):
going to let this prolong. And you know, like you said,
it's it's a losing battle. All that he's doing is
providing them enough time to get more people killed. On
your one as far as Ukraine.
Speaker 9 (46:02):
Goes, one of the best pieces of advice I.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
Ever got is in the Tug of War of Life,
there is no nothing in the rule book that says
you can't let go of the rope and walk away.
He should have walked.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Away, Larry. This is one of your best calls, really
really really good call, and an honest call. I mean,
your calls are always honest, but especially honest today, Larry,
thank you very much for that call. Six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay,
(46:41):
let me just do a very quick reset and then
I want to get right back to the phone lines.
President Trump now says that he's going to be sending
Ukraine defensive weapons. It's going to be an extensive weapons package.
We're looking at billions of dollars, now, what is clear.
And his administration admits this. This is not enough for
(47:03):
Ukraine to win the war. It's not enough, but it's
enough for Ukraine to keep fighting and to live another day.
And I'm sorry, but this is essentially the bite. It is.
It's the Biden policy. That's what Biden did. He gave
him enough weapons so they could keep fighting and fighting
and fighting, but never enough for them to potentially win
(47:23):
the war. So I look at this and I say,
this is Biden two point zero, at least on Ukraine
and on Epstein. It was all cover up, cover up,
cover up. So when it comes to the Epstein case
and it comes to Ukraine, it's a return to the
Biden policy. And I think that's the disappointment
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