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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Boston's Bulldozer never sleeps. The Kooner Report weekend edition on
the Voice of Boston w RKO.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Doctor Grace putting liberals in their place. Grace Vuoto, my
better half, my wonderful wife, and yes I did marry
up and she's a big Italy soccer fan. Grace. I
want to ask you, obviously about drugs and whether we
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should legalize them. That's what many people are now saying
that the drug war has failed. And yes Trump is
blowing up these boats. Good for him, obviously, it's you know,
he's going after these drug traffickers and drug smugglers, the cocaine,
the fentanyl. It's killing one hundred thousand Americans every year.
But before I get into that topic, I've got to
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ask you you was it two thousand and six when
Italy won the World Cup and then you and your
family and your friends, you guys went to downtown Montreal
and you guys blocked traffic and you guys were was
it in little Italy and then you guys were dancing
to Tarantel in the middle of the street blocking traffic.
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Was that two thousand and six? And I know when
Italy won the Euros what is it a couple of
years ago you were cheering in the house site. Honestly,
I thought the roof was going to collapse, you were
cheering so loud. How do you feel about Trump threatening
now to take the World Cup or those matches designated
for Boston for the twenty twenty six World Cup out
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of Boston if Michelle WU doesn't stop with their soft
on crime, pro illegal alien policies. Do you support Trump
on this?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Jeff, yes, I do. You know, I think there's nothing
more important, no matter what hobby or recreation we might
individually adore, I think there's nothing more important than clamping
down on the crime that we have seen across this
beautiful kind and on getting the illegal immigrants to go home.
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And look, you know, for all of those who are saying, oh,
you know, we've got to defend these people, you know,
as these activists are doing, remember that there have been
so many messages aired on TV telling illegal immigrants to
go home voluntarily. They're even going to get government assistance
to go home. So, as far as I'm concerned, they're
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bringing all of this upon themselves. Those who came illegally
violated our laws, and they should just be leaving, and
if they're not going to leave voluntarily, they're going to
be forced out with all of the methods that we
have pimpid and it takes a person like Trump to
enforce our laws. He's doing what no other president has
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had the courage to do in this regard.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Is this also because Italy doesn't seem to be frankly
very good this year?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
You're hilarius.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
My favorite matches though, are with Italy and Croatia playing
when we win the last minute, A big who's now moment?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Grace, I've got to ask you, there's now look Trump
now is there's a massive military build up. I talked
about this in the opening hour of the show. It's
the biggest build up that we've had in the Caribbean,
in that part of the world in over three decades.
The last time we did anything close to this we
invaded Panama in nineteen eighty nine to oust Manuel nor Diega.
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This was under Bush Forty one ten thousand US troops
now are there near the Venezuelan border. Three destroyers have
now been moved into the area, about a dozen F
thirty five fighter jets. You've got a flotilla of you've
got spy planes, you've got special forces now right on
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the Venezuelan border. They've now just sent in a major
Marines expeditionary unit. Clearly, the drums of war are now beating.
Trump has let it be known he wants Maduro to
be overthrown. He'd rather the Venezuelan people do it themselves.
But he is now starting to call for regime change.
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And a major reason is because of all of the
drugs that Meduro is helping to flood our country with,
and the fact now that he is literally financially and
politically in bed with the drug cartels with Trendur Aragua.
And Trump is now, as you know, blowing up these
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boats that are smuggling drugs into our country. These are
Venezuelan boats with Venezuelan narco terrorists, and he's blown up
six of them, killing twenty seven venezuel In nationals. And
so he's hammering the supply side. But many are now
coming out and saying the war on drugs has been
a failure. It's been going on for forty years. More
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intensity under Reagan, more intensity under Trump, less intensity under Obama.
But if you keep going after the supply it won't
solve the problem because of the demand that there's just
an insatiable demand in America for whatever reason, for cocaine,
for heroin, for fentanyl, for the hard drugs, you name it,
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and that really now, maybe the answer is to legalize it.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
What say you, I think that the legalization of marijuana
has been a complete disaster. There are reports that what
we've done so far has dramatically increased vehicle fatalities, and
we're just at the beginning of doing the research on
what these legalization efforts have done. I don't think we
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have a choice. It is one of those issues that
you have to keep fighting it on every front that
you possibly can, because the people that consume these products,
they're not just a threat to themselves. There are threat
to others, as we see with this dramatic increase in
people on marijuana who are killing others with their cars
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or damaging or hurting themselves. So I just it's one
of those issues, Jeff. I know people say we just
got to throw up our hands sometimes and legalize it,
and then what it's only going to It's only going
to lead to more crime if you do that. So
that's that's quicksand.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Well, let me just play You know, I agree with you,
but let me just play Devil's advocate. The way we
got rid of prohibition and we relegalized alcohol, and so
the argument is, do the same thing with drugs. This
would get organized crime out of the racket. This would
end the wealth and the power of the drug cartels.
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And you could tax it, you could regulate it, you
could treat it like you do alcohol, like you do cigarettes,
like you do marijuana. Now and this way, you know, yes,
people will hurt themselves, but people smoke that. Everybody knows
it causes lung cancer or throat cancer. People do marijuana.
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It causes lung cancer and throat cancer. And apparently now
it's much more potent now than it was thirty forty
years ago, much more addictive. So if people want to
hurt themselves, that's their business. But at least this way,
if you legalize it, A, we're not waging a war anymore,
we don't, you know, we're not bombing poppy fields and
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cocoa fields and boats with drug smugglers. A. It takes
that out and b it completely then undercuts the drug cartels.
So yeah, it doesn't stop crime. Completely, but it takes
organized crime out of it, and it doesn't feed them
billions of dollars a year. What say you?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Honestly, I think it's a preposterous argument, just because, first
of all, we've seen already with marijuana that it doesn't
eliminate the illegal growing and trafficking even of marijuana. So
legalizing these substances, it doesn't stop the illegal trafficking of it,
that's point number one. So what you're going to have
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is you're going to have all the problems that you
know due to the addictions of those who are taking
it from a legal purchase, plus you're still going to
have the crime, so you're gonna double your problems. That's
definitely not the solution. And another issue is that it's
very different than alcohol. You know, Jeff, you and I
we come from European families. We were exposed to alcohol
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in Canada at a very young age at the dinner table.
It was very customary to be given a little bit
of wine with seven up over dinner, and we grew
up not having much interest in alcohol because it is
not necessarily as addictive as you know, these substances, I
think if they are legal and they are everywhere the
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level of addiction is going to be so high. They're
just much much more toxic. And it's not just that
those individuals are going to hurt themselves, which obviously we
care about, but when they are high, they are a
threat to others. So I think you're just going to
compound all of society's woes by doing this.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
We've got about two minutes. And the reason why I'm
saying this is this is a bit of a deeper question.
But why why does the United States? And it's been
going on now for a while, it's not just a
recent thing forty fifty, sixty, seventy years and Europe the
West in general, But let's just focus on America. What
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is Why are there so many Americans who have this
insatiable appetite, you know, not just marijuana, but heroin, fentanyl,
these hard drugs that are highly addictive and incredibly destructive.
What's driving this? What's causing this?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Well, Jeff, you know, you and I are historians. You
know there was four for centuries you had people that
were addicted to opium. So this is not actually as
new as we think it is. There's always been a
segment of society that gravitates towards the hedonistic lifestyle to
the point that they'll do anything. But to answer your
question more directly about today, I think why it is
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so so widespread is that essentially, children are raised from
a very young age to believe that the purpose of
life is pleasure. This is the fundamental problem. So if
the purpose of life is pleasure, by the time they're teens,
they're going to experiment with sex, and then they're going
to experiment with every single thing you can think of
that they can put into their bodies. And by the
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grace of God, some of them escape without getting an addiction,
but too many fall in the trap of addiction. And
so what message are we sending our young people? What
is the reason for their life? You know, if you
ask somebody in the street right now, driving young person,
why are you alive? What's the reason? What have you
been taught? Well, they're going to say it's to entertain
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myself and quote unquote to be happy.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
You know, Grace, it's funny, But as you're talking now,
I can almost see the spirit of Charlie Kirk going
through you, because that's an argument that he made that
too many young people today are driven too much by
the pleasure principle, as he put it, and not God
and family and work.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
If Jeff doesn't get a day off. This request came
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