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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number. Okay, let's go right back to Heather
in Wareham.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
She has a younger sister two years younger, and uh
Trump won obviously in twenty twenty four, and since that
election victory, her sister refuses to speak to Heather and
she's also become quite cold to their mother. Heather, how long?
(00:29):
So she hasn't spoken to you at all since November
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
No, I don't want she she talks to me, like
she called right around Thanksgiving, but it's pleasantries. It's very
like you know, it's it's it's like it's pleasantry. It's
all surfaus, you know, it's and you can tell the
relationship has totally changed. And my sister is very much
(00:56):
the type that like everything has to be her way
and like you can't say anything that she doesn't agree with,
Like she's always been that way. So it's like you
always have to watch what she says. And she's a
she's always like the smartest person in the room and
she's always right, you know. And then it's like we've
we've had a bunch of Facebook fights before, you know,
before the election. And I don't want to say Facebook
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fights because I don't engage with her in that sense
because it's not worth my aggravation. But she like gives
me nasty comments with some of my Facebook posts, you know,
about Trump, which I can't even be bothered with hers
because hers is you know, I think hers is a
little ridiculous too. But yeah, like this she had too,
like like she decided, oh, instead of giving gifts for Christmas,
(01:45):
She's gonna donate in all of our names to a
ridiculous charity that I don't even agree with. And that's
fine whatever, But that's her way of saying she can't
be bothered, do you.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It's not like she's being nice because she's given to charity.
It's just her way of saying she can't be bothered.
And in other words, if she really wanted to donate
to charity, she would have reached down and said, hell,
what charity is important to you? I'd like to donate
to that charity for Christmas instead of giving a gift.
That would be one thing, but it's her charity, do
you know what I mean? And it's a tax right
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off for her because she owns her own business, so
it's you know, it's she's just she's got a hypocritical
in a lot of ways, Heather.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I don't mind me asking. And again, if I'm getting
too personal, I notice as a family matter, I promise
I won't be offended. Did you did you and your
sister see each other for Thanksgiving? Did you have dinner together?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
No? She lives in Colorado, so no we did. I mean,
that's the one thing is so she lives Yeah, so
she lives in Colorado, so it's not like we you know,
we never really see each other for the holidays. So
that's like not an issue. Really, it's just like her
whole to mean. And then it has been a family
since my father died, been issues with the estate and stuff.
(03:02):
So and she didn't not to get that that's a
little too personal, but she didn't agree with like certain things.
How you know, how we our opinions on So she
since since that.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
So I go, well, that happens in a lot of families.
But uh, okay, I got that. Did she ever confront
you and say, look, I you know, I'm mad at you.
I'm angry at you. I'm really upset because Trump did ABC,
or because you're supporting X y Z. Did she ever
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tell you, whether on the phone or to your face,
why it bothers her so much that you vote different
politically than she does. Has she ever explained this to
you and why it means so much that for the
most part, you're I mean, yeah, you're, as you said,
you're superficially. You extreme your few pleasantries on the phone,
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but essentially you know, you're not on speaking terms. I
mean you are, but it's it's very superficial. So basically,
what did Trump do or what did you do by
voting for Trump that justified let's just say, disrupting and
damaging the relationship.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I really don't know. So before the election, she called
me or emailed me, whatever, texted me. It says, we
need to have a conversation because your posts have really
upset me. And and and she's like and and I
really want to talk about it. So I called her,
(04:44):
and you know, and I said, Holly, if you're looking
for an apology, I'm not going to give you one.
I'm like, that's ridiculous, that's my opinion. I'm like, you know,
you're entitled to your opinion. Like I don't agree with
a lot of yours, but I'm not going to get
all mad that's your opinion, Like you know what I mean, Like,
I'm not going to be like, oh, I'm not going
to talk to you because you voted for the other side.
(05:07):
I mean, it's kind of ridiculous. But you know, like
I said, so you're not going to get one because
it's her. It's she's so manipulative too. It's like, oh,
you hurt my feelings and because I didn't agree with her.
That's ultimately what it is. It's like, you hurt my
feelings because you don't agree with me. Well, I'm not
making view apology because of that. That's ether I ask.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I'm sorry, and I don't mean to be offensive because
it's your sister, so please, I'm not trying to be insulting.
How old is your sister?
Speaker 4 (05:37):
K three?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
So she's fifty one.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
She's fifty one, and she's going on about her feelings
or that because of the post that you put up
on Facebook about Trump or about whatever liberals or Democrats. Well,
what you're ten years old. I mean, I'm sorry, but
you know, I mean, you know, I mean, even Ashton
and Ava since fifteen, I I was thirteen. You know,
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they're starting to develop, like, you know, their own political
views and stuff, and even they disagree and they're like, okay,
like you have your opinion. I have my opinion. Notice,
with many, many liberals, many, it's all about feelings. It's
always you make me feel like this or something you
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said bothers me, you know, in terms of my emotions
or again, my feelings, my sensibilities. It's never logic, reason, evidence, facts, truth.
And you know, they've this phenomenon of you know, liberals
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being quote unquote snowflakes. You know who suffer from quote
unquote microaggressions. Every little opinion bothers them. Everything is a microaggression.
Oh my god, I'm so offended. Oh I'm so hurt.
You're not that fragile. You're a fifty one year old woman,
I don't care whatever. You're an adult. You can handle
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a different opinion. It's called living in a free society.
So okay. You know, Biden was in office for four years.
Believe me, he called us a lot of names. He
called us garbage, he called us traders, he called us insurrectionists.
We lived. We're okay, we survived. So Trump is now
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in office, your guy law or whatever. Your gal lost
kamaa loss, Trump won, you get him next time. But
to barely speak to your sister, to barely speak to
your mother because you don't like the presidential candidate they
voted for, I'm sorry for me. That's a redline ideology
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never comes above family above blood, above parents, above siblings,
above friends, above human relationships. I'm telling you that's communism.
It is, it's it's and it's very destructive six one seven,
and it's immoral. I'm sorry. It's wrong. It's just wrong.
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I mean, nothing would break my heart more. And I
have beautiful pictures in my room. I've got beautiful pictures
in my hallway of Ashton and Ava when Ashton was younger,
Ava was just a baby. And to see them hugging,
you know, they're hugging each other, kissing each other, playing
with each other, and you know they're about two and
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a half years apart, so similar to what Heather and
her sister. And then you know, God forbid, I'm in
my old age and i find out my two children
are not speaking to each other, and I'm like, what happened?
Like what what would you know? What? What? What would
deserve to do to this fundamental bond. What is it
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you know, what was the great crime that was committed? Oh,
Ashton voted for this candidate or Ava voted for this candidate?
Are you kidding me? I swear to you, if there
was any breath left in my body, I would call
both of my children and say, I'm very disappointed. You've
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broken my heart. You've broken my heart. I didn't raise
you like this. It's just a damn election. Elections are
very important. There's no question but the two of you,
your brother and sister in my case or whatever, sister
and sister, whatever, your siblings, your brothers, your sisters, your blood,
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your family. What's more important than family? Agree? Disagree? Six
one seven two six six. The eight sixty eight is
the number eight thirty six on the Great WRKO Jeff
Cooner Boston's Bulldozer lines are jammed. Gary in Levitt, thanks
(10:14):
for holding Gary and welcome.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Kids.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
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Our presidente.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Donah T.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
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Speaker 2 (10:29):
Donald J. Trump Pitts. If catcher's and bragging are things
that you love the Donal J.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Trump Pitts, then hang up on your shipped and blow.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
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Speaker 2 (10:40):
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Trump pants his spongebook.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
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Speaker 2 (10:52):
I don't know, Patrick, why I can't fully my eyes
it's Kamala Harris and bikini bo.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
I think she's looking for the secret formula, secret formula.
In my eyes, she just likes to drink like a fish.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Gary, I gotta say your invitations are incredible. My kids
grew up watching SpongeBob, so I know SpongeBob very well,
and you got him spot on and the way you
adapted it to the you know, to the Kamala and
Trump and what happened down in Venezuela. Gary, you gotta
do me a favor the next time you call. I
(11:35):
want you to do me. I want you to do me.
I want you to do a one minute, you know,
spoof satire on the Cooner Man, if you could do
me that favor, because you know, I like it when
people make fun of my accent or the way I
talk or whatever. I think it's very funny. So Gary,
honestly outstanding job. Really, I gotta tell you, I felt
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like I was listening to SpongeBob. I mean, your imitations
are incredible. Gary, God bless you, my friend. And if
you don't call before Christmas, have a very happy merry Christmas.
That of course is Gary Levitt. I'm sorry I misread
the board and he's just a brilliant comedian. Six one
seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight Jack in
(12:24):
New Hampshire, Thanks for holding Jack and welcome.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Money.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Jeff, How are you very good? How are you Jack?
Speaker 6 (12:33):
I am just amazing having coffee at my wonderful wife
here in the morning. We have a ritual of listening
to you every morning and it's amazing all the things
that the topics that you put out there, and then
the callers. But let me just go right to the
point here. There's another variation. I think a lot of
callers are people that are listening now are suffering with
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I get along with my siblings. I'm one of seven,
the oldest brother, but I have an older sister and
I have other siblings that hate Trump. Here's the deal.
We don't talk to politics. We don't talk about it
because we'll start a big, huge poopstorm if you get
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my drift. Okay, so we don't talk about it, but
I think we both under we understand that's not worth
you know, getting all bent out of shape over. But
my saving grace is my wife and her family because
they're all Maga and Trumps supporters, So I get that
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from them, and I'm very grateful for that. But my
wife and I have had a lot of conversation in
my sadness because people in my family just don't stop
to look at the big picture. Trump may not be
the best speaker, let's say, if I'm right on that,
but if you look at what he's accomplished and what
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his goals are, his campaign promises, his love for the country,
and my wife and I were very faithful. We love God,
we love the Lord very much, and Trump has said
that many times. Trumps even you know, spoken prayers, especially
around nowadays, and I see the goodness in him and
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my siblings Unfortunately they don't. We have a neighbor that
when my wife and I go for our walks on
the day, he has friends that no longer speak to
him because he's a Trump supporter, And my heart breaks
for these people. You know, I don't know what the
answer is. It's just very sad, Jeff. It really is
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you know, we know why we love our president. And
I wish we could just all come to the table
and everyone kind of speak and just be calm. But
I don't think that can happen in a lot of cases.
And that's what's really unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
No, you're dead on and Jack, look at honestly is heartbreaking.
And this is what I don't understand. And really, we're
starting to fracture as a society. We are, we're not
able the little things that we used to do, and
the little things I don't mean to disparage them. I
mean little in the sense of the common courtesies, the
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just well mannered behavior, respectful behavior at a family gathering,
at a festive time, whatever it may be. The little
niceties and pleasantries of life. We're losing that. And look,
I just to give you an example. At my dad's funeral.
And I'm thinking a lot about my dad because the
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one year anniversary of his death is a couple of
weeks away, and a lot of my friends who I
grew up with showed up at his funeral. So did
Grace's friends, and so did one of my sister in law, Laurie.
She was very, very very close to mister in law. Uh,
and she has a lot of friends in Montreal as well.
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About ninety percent of all our friends are very liberal.
They hate Trump. I mean, they're Canadians, but they hate Trump.
And they really don't like our politics, my politics, Grace's politics,
Laurie's politics. Honestly, I don't care, Like I'm just being honest.
I don't care if you really press me. I don't
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care for their views. I think they're ill informed. In fact,
I know they're ill informed. I don't take them very
seriously because I think they're pretty much ignorant on politics.
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number. Okay, let's go right back to Jack
in New Hampshire. So Jack, just quickly finish my story,
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and then I want to go right back to you.
So we're at my dad's funeral. A lot of my
you know, friends that I grew up with liberal, very liberal,
very anti Trump. Same thing with Grace's friends and my
sister in law Laurie's friends. Now, afterwards, when the funeral
was over, you know, they shake my hand and my condolences,
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et cetera, and then right away they start because they
know I'm a conservative, and they know I'm a big
you know, talk I got a large following here. I'm
a major talk show host here in the United States, Conservative,
very pro Trump, And I don't know what they're trying
to prove, but they start with this, you know, oh,
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you know, boy, things must be really bad in America
now under Trump, right, you know, Oh, oh my god,
it's going to be horrible now that he's going to
come to power. Oh my, this is wow, this is
I don't know how you guys are going to do it.
And I was very calm. This is my dad's funeral. Literally,
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the body is in the casket. And I said, you know,
would you like it if I came to your father's
funeral and started because they're all big justice at the time,
they're all big Justin Trudeau fans and start bad mouthing
Justin Trudeau at your dad's wake or at your dad's funeral.
Would you like that? Would you think that's appropriate and respectful?
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And they said, well, no, we wouldn't like it. So
why are you doing it to me? If it's you know,
do unto others as you would have done unto you.
If you don't like it? And if you wouldn't want
this done to you or your family, why are you
doing it to me. My dad didn't deserve this. I
said he was very nice to which he was. I'm
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telling you, he was very nice to all of you,
very nice, very warm, very welcoming, very giving. People would
come over, he'd share his wine, he'd share his food,
his sausages, his homemade sausages. He you know, he was funny.
He made you laugh. I said, he was always good
to you. This is not a question of Paul politics
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or freedom of speech. It's a question about respecting my father.
We're here to commemorate him. It's not about taking a
shot at Donald Trump. Now. To be honest, and you
could tell I kind of shamed them a little bit.
But I'll be brutally honest with you, Jack. Then you know,
we met with them later. This is after my dad
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was cremated. That's what he wanted. And I knew it
was going to be, forgive my expression, it was going
to be a Trump bitchfest. I knew that. I knew that.
I know how they are. Now I'll be frank, Okay,
I don't value their opinion. I'm not saying this to
be insulting. They don't know what they're talking about. They're
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very poorly informed. They watched that propaganda on CBC, which
is like sort of like their version of you know,
the BBC in Britain. So they watched twenty minutes of that.
Half of what they think they know is false, the
other half is a half truth. Now I'm not gonna
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stand there and argue and correct them on fact after
fact after fact after fact. You want to be an ignoramus.
You want to be ignorant. You you know you want
to believe in myths and lies and propaganda. If you
want to watch that left wing drivel and garbage, that's
your rights, free country. Do what you want. To be honest,
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it goes in one year and out the other. And
I kept telling them the whole conversation. I said, you know,
I'm not gonna bite. I'm not gonna argue with you
about Donald Trump. I told them a few times, like, Frankly,
you don't know what you're talking about. I don't know
what I'm talking about. No, I'm sorry, you don't The Canadians.
You don't know what's happening in the United States. You're
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you're you're getting you're getting propaganda, you're getting misinformation. But
I'm not here to talk about Donald Trump. I haven't
seen many any of you in fifteen to twenty years.
How are you? How are your children? How's work? How's life?
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How are you? My friend? How have you been? That's
what I care about. I don't care about your political views.
I don't. And I said, you know, I hate to
tell you this, but you're all Canadian citizens, so your
views on Trump really don't matter. I'm sorry, I'm not
trying to be offensive. And they started to laugh at that.
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I said, it's not like you get to vote, so
let's talk about something else. Let's agree to disagree and
just move on. So okay, I sat there at the table.
I said, okay, you hate Trump, and you really don't
like the fact that I support Trump. Got it message registered?
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How are you? Because to me, friendship is more important
than politics. And we used to be able to know that, Jack,
We used to be able to be mature enough. It
didn't even need to be said the way I had
to say it to my friends. But this is what
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I mean. We're becoming to me much more immature as
a society, infantile and we're losing the nice cities, the manners,
the just the pleasantries. Okay, this person is this thing politically,
you're this thing politically. Let's not talk politics tonight because
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it's just gonna end up being a blow up. No
one's gonna convince anybody of anything, and it's just gonna
ruin the evening. And people were restrained and grown up
and mature enough to say, yeah, okay, but not anymore. No, everybody,
you know, I'm telling you, it's overwhelmingly on the left.
I'm right, you're wrong, and you see, I'll tell you
what's changed. Jack, final I want to go back to you,
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and I know this. Okay, another story for another time.
They believe that if you support Donald Trump, you're evil,
That if you support Donald Trump, you must be a racist,
you must be a white supremacist. Somewhere lurking in your
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heart is a freaking Nazi. Okay, there's a Hitler lover
right there, somewhere somewhere, and that's what eats them up,
and that's why they constantly have to get in our face.
And the problem they have is, well, but Jack isn't
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a Hitler lover. I've known Jack my whole life. Well,
Jack isn't a racist, because I've known him my whole life. No,
Jack is not a white supremacist. But you see the propaganda,
the indoctrination, the NonStop messaging, the brainwashing that I get
from the media and the Democrats is every Trump supporter
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is a Nazi, a white supremacist, an insurrection is blah
blah blah blah. So they can't it doesn't gel. They can't.
In other words, what reality is doesn't correspond to the
propaganda in their head. So they have to provoke a
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confrontation and either have you you know, bow and objectly
say I'm so sorry, I'm wrong, I confess my sins,
you know, and you know, almost like self flagellation, or
they go back to their friends because they're all a
bunch of sheep. That's the other thing I've realized about liberals.
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Their sheep. Their sheep. It's the biggest conformists you'll ever
find on the planet. They all have to toll the
same line. They're like sheep. Whatever the party says, whatever
that talking point is, they all mouthed it and mimic it.
So there's no intellectual independence whatsoever. So then they have
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to go back to their friends and say, oh, I
had I had dinner.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
With Jack last night or whatever. We had a we
had coffee last night and cake. I gave it Tom
with both barrels. I told him he's a racist Zena
Faulbeck Islama faull Beck White so premocessed.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, and practically kicked me out of his house. Yeah, okay,
tough guy. You showed him so he can brag to
his friends, or she can brag to her friends. I'm
a good little moonbat. It's pathetic now, I'm telling you,
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I'm not romanticizing the past. I know people did not
behave like this. In my family, very divergent political views,
friends of my father, friends of my mother, very divergent
political views and strongly held views. We put politics aside.
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People are more important than politics, especially family and friends.
Those days now increasingly are gone. And honestly, Jack, think
about it. If your own sister, or your own brother,
or your own parents, or your own aunt or uncle,
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or your own niece or nephew, or take your pick,
we'll hate you and not have anything to do with
you over who you voted for that's your blood. Then
what hope is there for the country. If your own
blood despises you, well what's the stranger going to do?
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And that's why to me, I'm sorry, we have to
shame the left. Christmas is not worth your stupid virtue
signaling you're not mature enough to come to Christmas. You're
not mature enough to live in a free society. It's
just politics. And if you can't see that, you're a
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pathetic loser. I think that's the attitude we should have. Jack,
am I wrong?
Speaker 6 (27:28):
You're nailed at Jeff. I want to emphasize on one point,
and I think this is really good information for the
listening audience. Here's the deal. A lot of what I'm
hearing the views is misinformation. And guess where the source
is coming from. Facebook. People aren't reaching out to Newsmax
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or Fox or podcasts or Jeff Coooner or whatever source
is giving the truth about this administration what they're doing.
They're all talking amongst themselves on Facebook. And I had
something with my sister about that and with Charlie Kirk
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as a matter of fact, she said, oh, I can't
stand that guy.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Now, this is a.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
Devout Christian that loves the Lord. And she went up
one side down the other when I mentioned Charlie Kirk's
depth and it was all because of what she heard
on Facebook. Social media is a sinful place. I'm sorry.
It's not the it's not the resource that people should
be using to get the facts about what's happening in
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the world or in the country or in Trump's administration.
You need to go to stronger, more factual sources. And
I think people need to step back because if that's
their source for their information, well guess what, it's their
mis information that's polluting them and putting out all this toxic,
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unnecessary hatred. That's what I say.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Oh, it's pure hatred. No, no, you're dead on Jack brilliant.
I'm telling you, absolutely brilliant. It is pure hatred. And
the thing about social media, remember it's intense, right, social media,
social media, it's intent, it's how it was sold to
us that this was going to bring people together. This
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was going to be like a virtual community where we
would come together like what the Italians called the piazza,
like the public square, right, that people would come together
like in a beautiful Italian piazza, sip some coffee and
everybody just talks. But we're gonna do it obviously, you know,
on a computer or a laptop or whatever. But this
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is going to bring everybody together. It's the opposite. It's
tearing us apart. And because it's toxic, it's it's pewing lies, bile, hatred,
forget even misinf you're right, it's misinformation and disinformation. But
it's hate the other side, in particular, hate conservatives, hate Trump,
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hate Maga, hate anybody that disagrees with the left. And
it's always to the worst. It's not even they're just wrong, No, no,
that's not enough. They're evil, they're immoral, they're white supremacists,
they're Nazis. It's dehumanization, and you keep, you know, and
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click and click and click and click, and you keep
doing this over and over and over. You can't sit
down and have a civil conversation over God over Christmas.
In fact, it's even worse than that. It's you can't
sit down over Christmas and not rage at your fellow
family member because of who they voted for. To me,
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you can't even say, no, okay, look, I'm just gonna
keep quiet. Let's just keep quiet. They can't, they just
they can't. They just can't do it Jack, thank you
very much for that call or whatever. You voted for Trump? Yeah, okay,
Well like in other words, I notice liberals never say
but why, like no, I'm just curious, but why it's
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right away, you voted for Trump while you're a racist.
Well you voted for Trump? Oka, kkay, why don't you
ask me why? It may shock you here? Under Biden inflation,
I just I can't pay the bills. Yeah, I know,
everything doubled under Biden. Yeah. Whether you think who to
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blame is, it doesn't matter it. The grocery bills are
too high, gas doubled, just everything. I mean, I just
I can't pay my bills. I'm literally living hand to mouth.
I don't know how much longer I can survive. So
I got to give Trump a shot at you know,
the economy under Trump, I'm sorry, it was better, at
least for me it was better. So I'm thinking of me,
(32:09):
you know, my spouse, my kids, yep, yep, yeah. No,
we got a lot of crime, A lot of illegals
came in under Biden. And you know, a woman in
our community was raped and another child was molested. And no,
I just I don't want to live like that. So
it's for me, it's an issue of public safety. Yeah. Yeah,
like I mean, that's the kind of answers you get,
(32:31):
or what you often also get, is I'm serious. Well,
he's going to reshore industry, he's going to start putting
tariffs because all these free trade deals. We had a
big plant and it employed a lot of people, but
now they're gone. The whole plant got outsourced to Mexico
or to China or to you know, Vietnam or whatever,
and we've lost seven thousand jobs. And I can't get work.
(32:54):
My husband can't get work. We're unemployed. We have no future.
Our house, the value of our house has collapsed. There's
fentodel now everywhere because there's no economic hope. So yeah, no,
I voted. I voted to bring manufacturing and jobs back.
Yeah that's why. Yeah. No, I'm just tired of all
(33:14):
the wars. We're just our soldiers are dying nimed and
twenty years in Afghanistan. Look at the disaster under Biden,
look at the disaster under Iraq where World War three
potentially between Russia and Ukraine. I just I don't want
to see our soldiers getting killed anymore in these pointless
endless wars. Yeah, that's the three. Yeah, that's the reason.
(33:40):
And you know, like, oh, so you're not a hip
or lover. No hold on, you mean you don't want
to put black people in chains? What hold on? Are
you an admirer of Vladimir Putin?
Speaker 4 (33:56):
What?
Speaker 1 (34:00):
They never ask, They just assume and they go right
away to the absolute worst possible motive six seven two
sixty six sixty eight sixty eight. Dan in New Hampshire.
Thanks for holding Dan, and welcome.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Thanks for taking the call, Jeff, my pleasure. I had
a pretty interesting Thanksgiving myself. We do have a moonba
in a family and she lives on the moon. And
I was told by my daughter, I'll be nice, you know,
don't bring up any politics. I says, okay, honey, I
won't do that. I won't do that. So I don't
(34:42):
know how it happened, but I ended up sitting beside
Dorothy and very promptly she pissed me off about en
lodging my garden too close to the property line of
my daughter's house. That, of course I I gave the
deposit on to help buy the house. Of course, so
(35:05):
she's telling me that I don't want to get that
garden too close and this and that, and I says,
you know, I'm going to slip these gloves off. And meanwhile,
you know she can. She's not doing so well. She's
you know, struggling. So I said, uh, I look at her,
(35:27):
and I said, how you feeling? She goes, uh mets
some metza, metsa mezza. I said, yeah, you know, you
really don't look so good. Says uh, you know that.
I think that dimension, the dementia, in the in the
Alzheimer's catching up to you. So she looks at me
right in the eye, and I says, and I stop laughing.
(35:47):
You know, I don't mean it. I don't mean it,
but I meant it. And so she's going on and on,
and I said, uh, you know, how do you think
Trump's doing? And she goes, I can't stand him, and
she's going on and she's lighting off and everything. I said, well,
(36:09):
you know, I brought up a couple of things.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
What about the border?
Speaker 4 (36:12):
What about this? What about that? Oh, they don't show
you they're invading the border. They're invading the border. And
she's you know, she's going right at him and everything.
I says, well, what do you think of Caroline love
It and she goes, she's up paid, now, mind you,
Caroline love It is my cousin. And I got a
(36:35):
little and I got a little ruffled on that one.
And I says, well, if you keep talking like that,
I'm just going to have to go over and turn
your oxygen tank off. And she looked at me again.
(36:56):
I said, oh, I just kidding. I'm just kidding. I
wouldn't do such a thing. And so we're going on
and on and she's basically, you know, kind of a
you know, nasty, no humor, old biddy. I guess that's
(37:16):
a good way to wrap it up. Just an old biddy. Dan.
I'm right here. Yeah, I said, you must think that
I'm a Nazi.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Oh you said that to her? Yeah, okay, what does
she say?
Speaker 4 (37:41):
She said, well, you could be, and I said, well,
you know, to be honest with you, I didn't. I'd
love to show you my my my my book of
non cough and I just got my Nazi flag and
the mail.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Oh dad, this is priceless, you know, I said, that's
a great way to handle him. I gotta say
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number. Okay, let's go right back to Heather
in Wareham.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
She has a younger sister two years younger, and uh
Trump won obviously in twenty twenty four, and since that
election victory, her sister refuses to speak to Heather and
she's also become quite cold to their mother. Heather, how long?
(00:29):
So she hasn't spoken to you at all since November
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
No, I don't want she she talks to me, like
she called right around Thanksgiving, but it's pleasantries. It's very
like you know, it's it's it's like it's pleasantry. It's
all surfaus, you know, it's and you can tell the
relationship has totally changed. And my sister is very much
(00:56):
the type that like everything has to be her way
and like you can't say anything that she doesn't agree with,
Like she's always been that way. So it's like you
always have to watch what she says. And she's a
she's always like the smartest person in the room and
she's always right, you know. And then it's like we've
we've had a bunch of Facebook fights before, you know,
before the election. And I don't want to say Facebook
(01:20):
fights because I don't engage with her in that sense
because it's not worth my aggravation. But she like gives
me nasty comments with some of my Facebook posts, you know,
about Trump, which I can't even be bothered with hers
because hers is you know, I think hers is a
little ridiculous too. But yeah, like this she had too,
like like she decided, oh, instead of giving gifts for Christmas,
(01:45):
She's gonna donate in all of our names to a
ridiculous charity that I don't even agree with. And that's
fine whatever, But that's her way of saying she can't
be bothered, do you.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It's not like she's being nice because she's given to charity.
It's just her way of saying she can't be bothered.
And in other words, if she really wanted to donate
to charity, she would have reached down and said, hell,
what charity is important to you? I'd like to donate
to that charity for Christmas instead of giving a gift.
That would be one thing, but it's her charity, do
you know what I mean? And it's a tax right
(02:17):
off for her because she owns her own business, so
it's you know, it's she's just she's got a hypocritical
in a lot of ways, Heather.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I don't mind me asking. And again, if I'm getting
too personal, I notice as a family matter, I promise
I won't be offended. Did you did you and your
sister see each other for Thanksgiving? Did you have dinner together?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
No? She lives in Colorado, so no we did. I mean,
that's the one thing is so she lives Yeah, so
she lives in Colorado, so it's not like we you know,
we never really see each other for the holidays. So
that's like not an issue. Really, it's just like her
whole to mean. And then it has been a family
since my father died, been issues with the estate and stuff.
(03:02):
So and she didn't not to get that that's a
little too personal, but she didn't agree with like certain things.
How you know, how we our opinions on So she
since since that.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
So I go, well, that happens in a lot of families.
But uh, okay, I got that. Did she ever confront
you and say, look, I you know, I'm mad at you.
I'm angry at you. I'm really upset because Trump did ABC,
or because you're supporting X y Z. Did she ever
(03:38):
tell you, whether on the phone or to your face,
why it bothers her so much that you vote different
politically than she does. Has she ever explained this to
you and why it means so much that for the
most part, you're I mean, yeah, you're, as you said,
you're superficially. You extreme your few pleasantries on the phone,
(04:02):
but essentially you know, you're not on speaking terms. I
mean you are, but it's it's very superficial. So basically,
what did Trump do or what did you do by
voting for Trump that justified let's just say, disrupting and
damaging the relationship.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I really don't know. So before the election, she called
me or emailed me, whatever, texted me. It says, we
need to have a conversation because your posts have really
upset me. And and and she's like and and I
really want to talk about it. So I called her,
(04:44):
and you know, and I said, Holly, if you're looking
for an apology, I'm not going to give you one.
I'm like, that's ridiculous, that's my opinion. I'm like, you know,
you're entitled to your opinion. Like I don't agree with
a lot of yours, but I'm not going to get
all mad that's your opinion, Like you know what I mean, Like,
I'm not going to be like, oh, I'm not going
to talk to you because you voted for the other side.
(05:07):
I mean, it's kind of ridiculous. But you know, like
I said, so you're not going to get one because
it's her. It's she's so manipulative too. It's like, oh,
you hurt my feelings and because I didn't agree with her.
That's ultimately what it is. It's like, you hurt my
feelings because you don't agree with me. Well, I'm not
making view apology because of that. That's ether I ask.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I'm sorry, and I don't mean to be offensive because
it's your sister, so please, I'm not trying to be insulting.
How old is your sister?
Speaker 4 (05:37):
K three?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
So she's fifty one.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
She's fifty one, and she's going on about her feelings
or that because of the post that you put up
on Facebook about Trump or about whatever liberals or Democrats. Well,
what you're ten years old. I mean, I'm sorry, but
you know, I mean, you know, I mean, even Ashton
and Ava since fifteen, I I was thirteen. You know,
(06:02):
they're starting to develop, like, you know, their own political
views and stuff, and even they disagree and they're like, okay,
like you have your opinion. I have my opinion. Notice,
with many, many liberals, many, it's all about feelings. It's
always you make me feel like this or something you
(06:25):
said bothers me, you know, in terms of my emotions
or again, my feelings, my sensibilities. It's never logic, reason, evidence, facts, truth.
And you know, they've this phenomenon of you know, liberals
(06:46):
being quote unquote snowflakes. You know who suffer from quote
unquote microaggressions. Every little opinion bothers them. Everything is a microaggression.
Oh my god, I'm so offended. Oh I'm so hurt.
You're not that fragile. You're a fifty one year old woman,
I don't care whatever. You're an adult. You can handle
(07:09):
a different opinion. It's called living in a free society.
So okay. You know, Biden was in office for four years.
Believe me, he called us a lot of names. He
called us garbage, he called us traders, he called us insurrectionists.
We lived. We're okay, we survived. So Trump is now
(07:31):
in office, your guy law or whatever. Your gal lost
kamaa loss, Trump won, you get him next time. But
to barely speak to your sister, to barely speak to
your mother because you don't like the presidential candidate they
voted for, I'm sorry for me. That's a redline ideology
(07:53):
never comes above family above blood, above parents, above siblings,
above friends, above human relationships. I'm telling you that's communism.
It is, it's it's and it's very destructive six one seven,
and it's immoral. I'm sorry. It's wrong. It's just wrong.
(08:16):
I mean, nothing would break my heart more. And I
have beautiful pictures in my room. I've got beautiful pictures
in my hallway of Ashton and Ava when Ashton was younger,
Ava was just a baby. And to see them hugging,
you know, they're hugging each other, kissing each other, playing
with each other, and you know they're about two and
(08:38):
a half years apart, so similar to what Heather and
her sister. And then you know, God forbid, I'm in
my old age and i find out my two children
are not speaking to each other, and I'm like, what happened?
Like what what would you know? What? What? What would
deserve to do to this fundamental bond. What is it
(09:04):
you know, what was the great crime that was committed? Oh,
Ashton voted for this candidate or Ava voted for this candidate?
Are you kidding me? I swear to you, if there
was any breath left in my body, I would call
both of my children and say, I'm very disappointed. You've
(09:25):
broken my heart. You've broken my heart. I didn't raise
you like this. It's just a damn election. Elections are
very important. There's no question but the two of you,
your brother and sister in my case or whatever, sister
and sister, whatever, your siblings, your brothers, your sisters, your blood,
(09:49):
your family. What's more important than family? Agree? Disagree? Six
one seven two six six. The eight sixty eight is
the number eight thirty six on the Great WRKO Jeff
Cooner Boston's Bulldozer lines are jammed. Gary in Levitt, thanks
(10:14):
for holding Gary and welcome.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Kids.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Hie aye, happy time, I kid hear you ye aye.
Our presidente.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Donah T.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Trumps is over the season.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Donald J. Trump Pitts. If catcher's and bragging are things
that you love the Donal J.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Trump Pitts, then hang up on your shipped and blow.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Up the drugs.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Donald J. Trump bets, Donald J. Trump pants, Donald J.
Trump pants his spongebook.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
What is Kamala Harrison bikini bottom?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I don't know, Patrick, why I can't fully my eyes
it's Kamala Harris and bikini bo.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
I think she's looking for the secret formula, secret formula.
In my eyes, she just likes to drink like a fish.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Gary, I gotta say your invitations are incredible. My kids
grew up watching SpongeBob, so I know SpongeBob very well,
and you got him spot on and the way you
adapted it to the you know, to the Kamala and
Trump and what happened down in Venezuela. Gary, you gotta
do me a favor the next time you call. I
(11:35):
want you to do me. I want you to do me.
I want you to do a one minute, you know,
spoof satire on the Cooner Man, if you could do
me that favor, because you know, I like it when
people make fun of my accent or the way I
talk or whatever. I think it's very funny. So Gary,
honestly outstanding job. Really, I gotta tell you, I felt
(12:00):
like I was listening to SpongeBob. I mean, your imitations
are incredible. Gary, God bless you, my friend. And if
you don't call before Christmas, have a very happy merry Christmas.
That of course is Gary Levitt. I'm sorry I misread
the board and he's just a brilliant comedian. Six one
seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight Jack in
(12:24):
New Hampshire, Thanks for holding Jack and welcome.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Money.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Jeff, How are you very good? How are you Jack?
Speaker 6 (12:33):
I am just amazing having coffee at my wonderful wife
here in the morning. We have a ritual of listening
to you every morning and it's amazing all the things
that the topics that you put out there, and then
the callers. But let me just go right to the
point here. There's another variation. I think a lot of
callers are people that are listening now are suffering with
(12:56):
I get along with my siblings. I'm one of seven,
the oldest brother, but I have an older sister and
I have other siblings that hate Trump. Here's the deal.
We don't talk to politics. We don't talk about it
because we'll start a big, huge poopstorm if you get
(13:17):
my drift. Okay, so we don't talk about it, but
I think we both under we understand that's not worth
you know, getting all bent out of shape over. But
my saving grace is my wife and her family because
they're all Maga and Trumps supporters, So I get that
(13:38):
from them, and I'm very grateful for that. But my
wife and I have had a lot of conversation in
my sadness because people in my family just don't stop
to look at the big picture. Trump may not be
the best speaker, let's say, if I'm right on that,
but if you look at what he's accomplished and what
(13:59):
his goals are, his campaign promises, his love for the country,
and my wife and I were very faithful. We love God,
we love the Lord very much, and Trump has said
that many times. Trumps even you know, spoken prayers, especially
around nowadays, and I see the goodness in him and
(14:19):
my siblings Unfortunately they don't. We have a neighbor that
when my wife and I go for our walks on
the day, he has friends that no longer speak to
him because he's a Trump supporter, And my heart breaks
for these people. You know, I don't know what the
answer is. It's just very sad, Jeff. It really is
(14:43):
you know, we know why we love our president. And
I wish we could just all come to the table
and everyone kind of speak and just be calm. But
I don't think that can happen in a lot of cases.
And that's what's really unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
No, you're dead on and Jack, look at honestly is heartbreaking.
And this is what I don't understand. And really, we're
starting to fracture as a society. We are, we're not
able the little things that we used to do, and
the little things I don't mean to disparage them. I
mean little in the sense of the common courtesies, the
(15:22):
just well mannered behavior, respectful behavior at a family gathering,
at a festive time, whatever it may be. The little
niceties and pleasantries of life. We're losing that. And look,
I just to give you an example. At my dad's funeral.
And I'm thinking a lot about my dad because the
(15:43):
one year anniversary of his death is a couple of
weeks away, and a lot of my friends who I
grew up with showed up at his funeral. So did
Grace's friends, and so did one of my sister in law, Laurie.
She was very, very very close to mister in law. Uh,
and she has a lot of friends in Montreal as well.
(16:04):
About ninety percent of all our friends are very liberal.
They hate Trump. I mean, they're Canadians, but they hate Trump.
And they really don't like our politics, my politics, Grace's politics,
Laurie's politics. Honestly, I don't care, Like I'm just being honest.
I don't care if you really press me. I don't
(16:26):
care for their views. I think they're ill informed. In fact,
I know they're ill informed. I don't take them very
seriously because I think they're pretty much ignorant on politics.
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number. Okay, let's go right back to Jack
in New Hampshire. So Jack, just quickly finish my story,
(16:49):
and then I want to go right back to you.
So we're at my dad's funeral. A lot of my
you know, friends that I grew up with liberal, very liberal,
very anti Trump. Same thing with Grace's friends and my
sister in law Laurie's friends. Now, afterwards, when the funeral
was over, you know, they shake my hand and my condolences,
(17:12):
et cetera, and then right away they start because they
know I'm a conservative, and they know I'm a big
you know, talk I got a large following here. I'm
a major talk show host here in the United States, Conservative,
very pro Trump, And I don't know what they're trying
to prove, but they start with this, you know, oh,
(17:34):
you know, boy, things must be really bad in America
now under Trump, right, you know, Oh, oh my god,
it's going to be horrible now that he's going to
come to power. Oh my, this is wow, this is
I don't know how you guys are going to do it.
And I was very calm. This is my dad's funeral. Literally,
(17:55):
the body is in the casket. And I said, you know,
would you like it if I came to your father's
funeral and started because they're all big justice at the time,
they're all big Justin Trudeau fans and start bad mouthing
Justin Trudeau at your dad's wake or at your dad's funeral.
Would you like that? Would you think that's appropriate and respectful?
(18:18):
And they said, well, no, we wouldn't like it. So
why are you doing it to me? If it's you know,
do unto others as you would have done unto you.
If you don't like it? And if you wouldn't want
this done to you or your family, why are you
doing it to me. My dad didn't deserve this. I
said he was very nice to which he was. I'm
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telling you, he was very nice to all of you,
very nice, very warm, very welcoming, very giving. People would
come over, he'd share his wine, he'd share his food,
his sausages, his homemade sausages. He you know, he was funny.
He made you laugh. I said, he was always good
to you. This is not a question of Paul politics
(19:00):
or freedom of speech. It's a question about respecting my father.
We're here to commemorate him. It's not about taking a
shot at Donald Trump. Now. To be honest, and you
could tell I kind of shamed them a little bit.
But I'll be brutally honest with you, Jack. Then you know,
we met with them later. This is after my dad
(19:23):
was cremated. That's what he wanted. And I knew it
was going to be, forgive my expression, it was going
to be a Trump bitchfest. I knew that. I knew that.
I know how they are. Now I'll be frank, Okay,
I don't value their opinion. I'm not saying this to
be insulting. They don't know what they're talking about. They're
(19:45):
very poorly informed. They watched that propaganda on CBC, which
is like sort of like their version of you know,
the BBC in Britain. So they watched twenty minutes of that.
Half of what they think they know is false, the
other half is a half truth. Now I'm not gonna
(20:07):
stand there and argue and correct them on fact after
fact after fact after fact. You want to be an ignoramus.
You want to be ignorant. You you know you want
to believe in myths and lies and propaganda. If you
want to watch that left wing drivel and garbage, that's
your rights, free country. Do what you want. To be honest,
(20:30):
it goes in one year and out the other. And
I kept telling them the whole conversation. I said, you know,
I'm not gonna bite. I'm not gonna argue with you
about Donald Trump. I told them a few times, like, Frankly,
you don't know what you're talking about. I don't know
what I'm talking about. No, I'm sorry, you don't The Canadians.
You don't know what's happening in the United States. You're
(20:51):
you're you're getting you're getting propaganda, you're getting misinformation. But
I'm not here to talk about Donald Trump. I haven't
seen many any of you in fifteen to twenty years.
How are you? How are your children? How's work? How's life?
(21:11):
How are you? My friend? How have you been? That's
what I care about. I don't care about your political views.
I don't. And I said, you know, I hate to
tell you this, but you're all Canadian citizens, so your
views on Trump really don't matter. I'm sorry, I'm not
trying to be offensive. And they started to laugh at that.
(21:32):
I said, it's not like you get to vote, so
let's talk about something else. Let's agree to disagree and
just move on. So okay, I sat there at the table.
I said, okay, you hate Trump, and you really don't
like the fact that I support Trump. Got it message registered?
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How are you? Because to me, friendship is more important
than politics. And we used to be able to know that, Jack,
We used to be able to be mature enough. It
didn't even need to be said the way I had
to say it to my friends. But this is what
(22:15):
I mean. We're becoming to me much more immature as
a society, infantile and we're losing the nice cities, the manners,
the just the pleasantries. Okay, this person is this thing politically,
you're this thing politically. Let's not talk politics tonight because
(22:39):
it's just gonna end up being a blow up. No
one's gonna convince anybody of anything, and it's just gonna
ruin the evening. And people were restrained and grown up
and mature enough to say, yeah, okay, but not anymore. No, everybody,
you know, I'm telling you, it's overwhelmingly on the left.
I'm right, you're wrong, and you see, I'll tell you
what's changed. Jack, final I want to go back to you,
(23:01):
and I know this. Okay, another story for another time.
They believe that if you support Donald Trump, you're evil,
That if you support Donald Trump, you must be a racist,
you must be a white supremacist. Somewhere lurking in your
(23:21):
heart is a freaking Nazi. Okay, there's a Hitler lover
right there, somewhere somewhere, and that's what eats them up,
and that's why they constantly have to get in our face.
And the problem they have is, well, but Jack isn't
(23:43):
a Hitler lover. I've known Jack my whole life. Well,
Jack isn't a racist, because I've known him my whole life. No,
Jack is not a white supremacist. But you see the propaganda,
the indoctrination, the NonStop messaging, the brainwashing that I get
from the media and the Democrats is every Trump supporter
(24:03):
is a Nazi, a white supremacist, an insurrection is blah
blah blah blah. So they can't it doesn't gel. They can't.
In other words, what reality is doesn't correspond to the
propaganda in their head. So they have to provoke a
(24:24):
confrontation and either have you you know, bow and objectly
say I'm so sorry, I'm wrong, I confess my sins,
you know, and you know, almost like self flagellation, or
they go back to their friends because they're all a
bunch of sheep. That's the other thing I've realized about liberals.
(24:45):
Their sheep. Their sheep. It's the biggest conformists you'll ever
find on the planet. They all have to toll the
same line. They're like sheep. Whatever the party says, whatever
that talking point is, they all mouthed it and mimic it.
So there's no intellectual independence whatsoever. So then they have
(25:09):
to go back to their friends and say, oh, I
had I had dinner.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
With Jack last night or whatever. We had a we
had coffee last night and cake. I gave it Tom
with both barrels. I told him he's a racist Zena
Faulbeck Islama faull Beck White so premocessed.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, and practically kicked me out of his house. Yeah, okay,
tough guy. You showed him so he can brag to
his friends, or she can brag to her friends. I'm
a good little moonbat. It's pathetic now, I'm telling you,
(25:52):
I'm not romanticizing the past. I know people did not
behave like this. In my family, very divergent political views,
friends of my father, friends of my mother, very divergent
political views and strongly held views. We put politics aside.
(26:13):
People are more important than politics, especially family and friends.
Those days now increasingly are gone. And honestly, Jack, think
about it. If your own sister, or your own brother,
or your own parents, or your own aunt or uncle,
(26:33):
or your own niece or nephew, or take your pick,
we'll hate you and not have anything to do with
you over who you voted for that's your blood. Then
what hope is there for the country. If your own
blood despises you, well what's the stranger going to do?
(26:58):
And that's why to me, I'm sorry, we have to
shame the left. Christmas is not worth your stupid virtue
signaling you're not mature enough to come to Christmas. You're
not mature enough to live in a free society. It's
just politics. And if you can't see that, you're a
(27:21):
pathetic loser. I think that's the attitude we should have. Jack,
am I wrong?
Speaker 6 (27:28):
You're nailed at Jeff. I want to emphasize on one point,
and I think this is really good information for the
listening audience. Here's the deal. A lot of what I'm
hearing the views is misinformation. And guess where the source
is coming from. Facebook. People aren't reaching out to Newsmax
(27:51):
or Fox or podcasts or Jeff Coooner or whatever source
is giving the truth about this administration what they're doing.
They're all talking amongst themselves on Facebook. And I had
something with my sister about that and with Charlie Kirk
(28:12):
as a matter of fact, she said, oh, I can't
stand that guy.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Now, this is a.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
Devout Christian that loves the Lord. And she went up
one side down the other when I mentioned Charlie Kirk's
depth and it was all because of what she heard
on Facebook. Social media is a sinful place. I'm sorry.
It's not the it's not the resource that people should
be using to get the facts about what's happening in
(28:39):
the world or in the country or in Trump's administration.
You need to go to stronger, more factual sources. And
I think people need to step back because if that's
their source for their information, well guess what, it's their
mis information that's polluting them and putting out all this toxic,
(29:03):
unnecessary hatred. That's what I say.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Oh, it's pure hatred. No, no, you're dead on Jack brilliant.
I'm telling you, absolutely brilliant. It is pure hatred. And
the thing about social media, remember it's intense, right, social media,
social media, it's intent, it's how it was sold to
us that this was going to bring people together. This
(29:27):
was going to be like a virtual community where we
would come together like what the Italians called the piazza,
like the public square, right, that people would come together
like in a beautiful Italian piazza, sip some coffee and
everybody just talks. But we're gonna do it obviously, you know,
on a computer or a laptop or whatever. But this
(29:48):
is going to bring everybody together. It's the opposite. It's
tearing us apart. And because it's toxic, it's it's pewing lies, bile, hatred,
forget even misinf you're right, it's misinformation and disinformation. But
it's hate the other side, in particular, hate conservatives, hate Trump,
(30:11):
hate Maga, hate anybody that disagrees with the left. And
it's always to the worst. It's not even they're just wrong, No, no,
that's not enough. They're evil, they're immoral, they're white supremacists,
they're Nazis. It's dehumanization, and you keep, you know, and
(30:35):
click and click and click and click, and you keep
doing this over and over and over. You can't sit
down and have a civil conversation over God over Christmas.
In fact, it's even worse than that. It's you can't
sit down over Christmas and not rage at your fellow
family member because of who they voted for. To me,
(31:01):
you can't even say, no, okay, look, I'm just gonna
keep quiet. Let's just keep quiet. They can't, they just
they can't. They just can't do it Jack, thank you
very much for that call or whatever. You voted for Trump? Yeah, okay,
Well like in other words, I notice liberals never say
but why, like no, I'm just curious, but why it's
(31:26):
right away, you voted for Trump while you're a racist.
Well you voted for Trump? Oka, kkay, why don't you
ask me why? It may shock you here? Under Biden inflation,
I just I can't pay the bills. Yeah, I know,
everything doubled under Biden. Yeah. Whether you think who to
(31:48):
blame is, it doesn't matter it. The grocery bills are
too high, gas doubled, just everything. I mean, I just
I can't pay my bills. I'm literally living hand to mouth.
I don't know how much longer I can survive. So
I got to give Trump a shot at you know,
the economy under Trump, I'm sorry, it was better, at
least for me it was better. So I'm thinking of me,
(32:09):
you know, my spouse, my kids, yep, yep, yeah. No,
we got a lot of crime, A lot of illegals
came in under Biden. And you know, a woman in
our community was raped and another child was molested. And no,
I just I don't want to live like that. So
it's for me, it's an issue of public safety. Yeah. Yeah,
like I mean, that's the kind of answers you get,
(32:31):
or what you often also get, is I'm serious. Well,
he's going to reshore industry, he's going to start putting
tariffs because all these free trade deals. We had a
big plant and it employed a lot of people, but
now they're gone. The whole plant got outsourced to Mexico
or to China or to you know, Vietnam or whatever,
and we've lost seven thousand jobs. And I can't get work.
(32:54):
My husband can't get work. We're unemployed. We have no future.
Our house, the value of our house has collapsed. There's
fentodel now everywhere because there's no economic hope. So yeah, no,
I voted. I voted to bring manufacturing and jobs back.
Yeah that's why. Yeah. No, I'm just tired of all
(33:14):
the wars. We're just our soldiers are dying nimed and
twenty years in Afghanistan. Look at the disaster under Biden,
look at the disaster under Iraq where World War three
potentially between Russia and Ukraine. I just I don't want
to see our soldiers getting killed anymore in these pointless
endless wars. Yeah, that's the three. Yeah, that's the reason.
(33:40):
And you know, like, oh, so you're not a hip
or lover. No hold on, you mean you don't want
to put black people in chains? What hold on? Are
you an admirer of Vladimir Putin?
Speaker 4 (33:56):
What?
Speaker 1 (34:00):
They never ask, They just assume and they go right
away to the absolute worst possible motive six seven two
sixty six sixty eight sixty eight. Dan in New Hampshire.
Thanks for holding Dan, and welcome.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Thanks for taking the call, Jeff, my pleasure. I had
a pretty interesting Thanksgiving myself. We do have a moonba
in a family and she lives on the moon. And
I was told by my daughter, I'll be nice, you know,
don't bring up any politics. I says, okay, honey, I
won't do that. I won't do that. So I don't
(34:42):
know how it happened, but I ended up sitting beside
Dorothy and very promptly she pissed me off about en
lodging my garden too close to the property line of
my daughter's house. That, of course I I gave the
deposit on to help buy the house. Of course, so
(35:05):
she's telling me that I don't want to get that
garden too close and this and that, and I says,
you know, I'm going to slip these gloves off. And meanwhile,
you know she can. She's not doing so well. She's
you know, struggling. So I said, uh, I look at her,
(35:27):
and I said, how you feeling? She goes, uh mets
some metza, metsa mezza. I said, yeah, you know, you
really don't look so good. Says uh, you know that.
I think that dimension, the dementia, in the in the
Alzheimer's catching up to you. So she looks at me
right in the eye, and I says, and I stop laughing.
(35:47):
You know, I don't mean it. I don't mean it,
but I meant it. And so she's going on and on,
and I said, uh, you know, how do you think
Trump's doing? And she goes, I can't stand him, and
she's going on and she's lighting off and everything. I said, well,
(36:09):
you know, I brought up a couple of things.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
What about the border?
Speaker 4 (36:12):
What about this? What about that? Oh, they don't show
you they're invading the border. They're invading the border. And
she's you know, she's going right at him and everything.
I says, well, what do you think of Caroline love
It and she goes, she's up paid, now, mind you,
Caroline love It is my cousin. And I got a
(36:35):
little and I got a little ruffled on that one.
And I says, well, if you keep talking like that,
I'm just going to have to go over and turn
your oxygen tank off. And she looked at me again.
(36:56):
I said, oh, I just kidding. I'm just kidding. I
wouldn't do such a thing. And so we're going on
and on and she's basically, you know, kind of a
you know, nasty, no humor, old biddy. I guess that's
(37:16):
a good way to wrap it up. Just an old biddy. Dan.
I'm right here. Yeah, I said, you must think that
I'm a Nazi.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Oh you said that to her? Yeah, okay, what does
she say?
Speaker 4 (37:41):
She said, well, you could be, and I said, well,
you know, to be honest with you, I didn't. I'd
love to show you my my my my book of
non cough and I just got my Nazi flag and
the mail.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Oh dad, this is priceless, you know, I said, that's
a great way to handle him. I gotta say
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