Protecting the World

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number Dave in Abington. Thanks for holding Dave,
and welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Good morning, Jeff. How are you.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
I'm very good. How are you, Dave?

Speaker 4 (00:17):
Jeff.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'll tell you. Why should we have to give Ukraine anything?

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Jeff?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
They've had enough and there's nothing to show for it,
and his father's a peace agreement. Yeah, we wanted done
it over with, But why should we have to keep
on giving them everything when we've given enough to everybody
in all over the country. Jeff, He's given every country
everything and nothing. The show followed afterwards. We shouldn't have

(00:45):
given so listen anything, especially for the time when he
came the first time. It's started to acting like a
punk in the White House and everything else. He shouldn't
have got nothing from us, Jeff. In no boots, no
boots on the ground, no nobody shooting anything for Selinsky.
Let the Europeans, let them deal with it. We get

(01:06):
enough trouble here as it is, Jeff, without having to
give Selinsky everything he's always wanting. Oh, we're gonna give
them a billion dollars in weapons, Why so can sell
them on the black market for profit? I don't trust him, Jeff,
He's a snake in the grass I you'd say.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Well, Dave, I agree with you. So that's why all
I can do is piggyback off of what you're saying. Look,
what they're planning now in Ukraine is very similar to
what we did in Korea. In fact, Korea is the
analogy they keep using yesterday at the summit, and now it's,
you know, a little bit different. It's not a peninsula Ukraine.

(01:43):
It's slightly different, but basically you have North Korea, South Korea.
American troops about twenty eight to twenty nine thousand have
been stationed in South Korea for over seventy years, seventy years,
keeping the peace between North and South Korea, and it

(02:05):
looks like they're gonna be there forever. Now, we don't
have twenty eight thousand troops policing our own southern border.
I mean, we have an I know Trump has secured
and sealed the border. I mean, I get it, but
he's not gonna be in power forever. So we're not
even putting twenty eight thousand troops on the Mexican border

(02:27):
to guarantee no future border invasion. We're gonna what put
another I don't know what the number is gonna be,
but another ten twenty thirty thousand into Ukraine. So what
we're gonna be it's gonna be like South Korea. So
we're gonna be there for what fifty years, seventy years,
one hundred years, one hundred and fifty years. And remember,

(02:48):
if there's ever war between North and South Korea, we're
on the hook. That's a trip wire among many trip wires.
So look, if you want, one day, I will literally
name all of the countries in the world that we
are militarily obligated to defend. It is over one hundred countries.

(03:12):
This is madness. This is madness. I don't mean we're
likely to defend, we should defend, or the establishment would
want us to defend. No, no, I'm talking about on
a piece of paper, we are diplomatically militarily obligated to defend.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
NATO.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
That's thirty countries right there. And then you've got all
you know, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea. I mean
I could go on. Then you've got all these countries
in the Middle East. I mean I could go on
and on and on and on. So what I'm saying
is how many more countries? I mean, basically, what we'll

(03:59):
just protect the whole world. I mean, at this point seriously, like,
let's not quibble with numbers. Okay, anybody attacks anybody on
the planet, the United States is going to get involved.
What are we the Roman Empire? You know what happened
to Rome, That's exactly what's going to happen to us. So, no,

(04:19):
we have no business in Ukraine. Who controls the don
Bass is of no concern to me. And look, this
is the lie. This is what I can't stand about
these Europeans. And I know this because Grace has a
very dear friend in Italy and she works in diplomatic circles.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Long story short, Dave.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
The Europeans have convinced themselves, and this is starmer this
is Macron, this is Schultz, sorry Mertz, Frederick Mertz.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Schultz was the previous chancellor.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
This is all of them that today it's Ukraine, tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
It's all of Europe.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
That Vladimir Putin a la Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin,
it's just going to roll into Eastern Europe and roll
into Central Europe. That he's like this modern day military juggernaut.
Number one. The guy can't even conquer all of Denetsk,
which is literally on the Russian border, which is ethnically Russian,

(05:23):
Russian speaking, historically part of the Russian Empire. Ukraine still
controls a quarter of it. Putin is asking Zelenski to
give him the quarter that the Russians don't control, and
Zelenski's signing blank you No, I'm not giving you any
territory you haven't conquered. By the way, I don't blame
Zelenski on this, I wouldn't give it to Putin either.

(05:43):
Why so, let me get this straight. You want to
keep the territory you've conquered and the territory you haven't conquered.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
No, life doesn't work that way.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
But my point is if this guy can barely get
a slice of eastern Ukraine, and now you're looking at
a million a million Russian dead, wounded, maimed, crippled, missing,
The Russian economy is falling apart. You've got serious resistance
to the war now in Russia. This guy's gonna roll Poland,

(06:19):
he's gonna roll NATO, he's gonna roll the United States.
You want to talk about hysteria and panic porn. These
people are crazy. I'm telling you, they're crazy. So the
whole premise that they're operating under, to me, is completely wrong.
But if you really believe that, stop buying Russian oil

(06:41):
and natural gas. If this guy's the modern day Hitler,
as they keep saying, why are the Germans buying Russian gas?
Why are the Italians buying Russian oil and gas? Why
are the Brits buying Russian oil and natural gas? Why
are the Fins and the Norwegians and the Swedes, They're
all buying Russian oil and natural gas. So you're feeding

(07:03):
Putin's war machine, puphonies, you frauds.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
You.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
So no, Dave, I am with you all the way.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Look, if the Europeans want to defend Ukraine, that's your Hey,
that's your business. I personally I wouldn't do it, but that's.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Up to you.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Listen, I'm America first. I'm not Ukraine first. I'm not
Russia first, I'm not just for the record, i'm not
Croatia first. I'm not Germany first, I'm not England first,
I'm not Canada first. I'm America first. Ukraine is not

(07:43):
worth the bones of a single American soldier period, full stop.
No US troops in Ukraine, no US bases in Ukraine,
no US security guarantees for Ukraine. Six one seven two
six six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay,

(08:04):
listen now to President Trump. This was him yesterday meeting
with Zelenski and then doing a quick Q and A
with journalists in the Oval Office, saying, we're going to
discuss the possible exchanges of territory. Basically, as Trump said,
We're going to try to freeze the front line as

(08:24):
it is now where Russia give or take controls about
twenty percent of Ukraine's territory. As I've been saying all morning,
most of it is called the Dawn Bass. It is
in the eastern part of Ukraine, along with the Peninsula
of Crimea, which Putin absorbed under Obama in twenty fourteen.

(08:45):
Listen now to Trump saying, We've got some maneuvering to do,
some points to agree on, but if we can get there,
I can set up the final meeting between myself, Putin
and Zolenzia Key to close the deal.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Roll cut one a Mike.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
We also need to discuss the possible exchanges of territory
taken into consideration the current line of contact that means
the war zone, the war lines center. Pretty obvious, very
sad actually to look at him and negotiating positions. President Putin. Also,

(09:27):
you have president of Ukraine who is you just met
a little while ago, and we're going to try and
get a three party meeting maybe as soon as we can.
And I have a feeling you and President Putin are
going to work something out.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
So and again this broke this morning. It was being
talked about heavily yesterday. It's now official. Trump is on
the phone with both Putin and Zelenski. They are going
to meet Putin and Zelenski sometime. They believe next week.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
It could be two.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Weeks, but they're trying for next week or in a
week's time and right away have the two sit down.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
The location has yet to be determined.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
The European leaders want it somewhere in Europe, so they
don't want it in the United States. Zelensky does not
want it in Russia. Obviously, they used to do at
least several of these meetings in Turkey. I don't think
the Europeans want it in Turkey as well, so it
most likely will be in Europe, but Putin and Zelensky

(10:31):
will meet face to face, and then within an hour
or two after that meeting, Trump will come in. It
will be a trilateral meeting, and it is there whatever
final points need to be resolved. Trump says he will
be the difference maker and we will have an historic
peace deal. The war will be over. My question to you,

(10:58):
what do you make of Trump's the colomacy? What do
you make of what happened yesterday? And the big question
as far as I'm concerned, because I'm America, first, should
we secure Ukraine's borders? And should we send US troops

(11:19):
as a final guarantee to Ukraine to have a piece
with Russia and to end the bloodshed? Linda in Medford,
Thanks for holding Linda, and welcome.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
Good morning.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
Hi.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
I've sort of written a little fantasy about this whole situation.
Putin has said for many years not NATO on his border.
I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the prior
administration told Zelenski to ask to join NATO. It's my

(11:59):
unders standing that when NATO was set up, they had
to be asked to join, and we encouraged Zelensky to
say that, knowing Russia would be upset and they could
get millions and millions of dollars in blowback from this conflict.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Oh, Linda, there's no question. I mean, it's not even
a how do I say I put this in air
quotes a conspiracy theory. No, literally, Joe Biden and Kamala
Harris flew and to Europe met with Zelensky and they
said to him, we want you to join NATO, and

(12:47):
Zolensky to be fair to Zelensky, not that I like
the guy. Zolensky was the one who told Biden and
Kamala openly he said, but that's a redline. Are you
sure Putin's going to agree to that? Like he goes,
I don't think the Russians are going to agree to this.
And Biden said, don't worry about the Russians. That's literally

(13:08):
what he said, don't worry about the Russians and said
Zolensky was like, yeah, okay, I mean, look, if i'm
if I'm the leader of Ukraine and the American president
and vice president come to me and literally put you
know on the table, Yeah, we'll we'll take care of
your security. Forever, and you'll be part of the most
powerful alliance in human history, which, by the way, will

(13:32):
definitely then guarantee your path to the European Union, both
you know, NATO membership and EU membership are closely intertwined. Well, yeah,
I'm like, okay, and hold on, but the Russians aren't
going to agree to this. I got the Russians covered,
really sure, Yeah, don't worry about it. I got the
Russians covered, okay, and so Zelensky then, very publicly, with

(13:55):
Kamala Harris right beside him, said we are now asked
looking for formal admission in Tornado, to which Putin then
immediately responded. He responded, not just as foreign minister, he
responded and said, this is a red line. I am
warning you do not cross it. This is unacceptable to Russia,

(14:17):
he said it. This will trigger a war. We will
have to invade and overthrow the regime in Kiev, the capital.
They did it anyway, and boom February twenty February twenty
twenty two, Russia launched its troops and its invasion of Ukraine.

(14:37):
So there's no question Biden's puppet masters wanted a war
with Russia. Soros wanted a war, the globalists wanted a war.
Hillary wanted a war, the industrial complex wanted a war.
The neo Khans wanted a war, and they wanted to

(14:58):
provoke and incite Russia to the point that it would
force them to invade. And then they could present themselves
as look, we're just defending Ukraine. And now it's three
and a half years later, and you've got a million
dead or wounded on both sides. In fact, the real
number most people think is one point five million. One

(15:20):
point five million dead or wounded on both sides. And
so the question that has to be asked of Zelenski,
if I'm a yuk Look, if I'm a Russian, I
have a question to ask Putin. If I'm a Ukrainian,
I have a question to ask Zelenski if I'm a Ukrainian.
The question I asked Zelenski is was this all worth it?

(15:44):
Like the death, the dying, the bleeding, Ukraine is broken
and depopulated. There are ten to twelve million refugees gone,
most of them are never going to come back. You've
got hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians, civilians and troops dead,

(16:06):
hundreds of thousands more maimed, crippled, wounded, entire cities reduced
to rubble. Was it all worth it? Is it really
worth it to join NATO? You buffoon, you comedian, you clown.
And then the question if I'm a Russian is to

(16:28):
putin there wasn't any other way. I'm not defending assassination,
please don't get me wrong. But what you couldn't assassin
I mean, you're Russia, for God's sakes. As if you
guys don't assassinate people. You couldn't have assassinated Zelenski. You
couldn't have tried to coop within the parliament or within Ukraine.

(16:50):
You couldn't have put tremendous economic pressure, and you force
the Ukrainians to give up their their demand to join NATO.
In other words, there were a million other options you
could have pursued other than invading Ukraine. Now, all of
these Russian dead bodies, and this is what you have
to show for it. Six one seven two six, six

(17:14):
sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay, my friends,
A lot of reaction, everybody's weighing in. Of course, I
don't blame you. These are historic times that we're living in.
UH and this is definitely an historic deal. Six one
seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight Jeff cooner
liberalisms worst nightmare Baby. You can text the Coooner Man

(17:37):
seven zero four seven zero seven zero four seven zero.
This is from seven eight one Jeff. Can you imagine
the graft erama for these non governmental organizations NGOs during
Ukraine's reconstruction. That's that's a very good point. There's gonna

(18:02):
be so much money being stolen. This grift is gonna
go on for decades now, I mean this holy mackerel. Uh, okay,
one more six one seven, Jeff, And I really I
think this is very well said Jeff. This proposed peace
deal is like one of those short term adjustable mortgages

(18:29):
with an irresistible low interest rate that soon balloons into
foreclosure territory. In other words, yeah, it ends the fighting,
it ends the dying Trump is I'm telling you he's
definitely now getting the Peace Prize. He's getting that Nobel
Peace Prize. There's no nothing on earth can stop him

(18:50):
now from getting that Nobel Peace Prize. And look, everybody
breeds a sigh of relief. Look I'm happy Russian aren't
being slaughtered Ukrainians aren't being slaughtered. Civilians, especially in Ukraine,
aren't being massacred. Obviously, there's going to be a sense
of triumph and jubilation and relief. But then comes the

(19:14):
bill and is it worth the price? That's the question.
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Tony in Florida. Thanks for holding Tony, and.

Speaker 6 (19:27):
Welcome Waning Jeff. Good night Tom, Jeff, my fellow patriot.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
How are you doing good? How are you Tomy?

Speaker 6 (19:35):
Good? Thank you?

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Good good.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Jeff.

Speaker 6 (19:39):
You know, as I have mentioned to you before, you know,
I've been with President Trump. You know, ever since he
came down that escalated Juna twenty fifteen. Proud to say,
I've never a way of it. I've always trusted him.
I continue to trust him one thousand percent with everything
he does. He's not I'm America first, like you, and
like President Trump is definitely America first. He's not going

(19:59):
to put any of our men and women in the military.
In hamsway, Jeff, we're witnessing the greatest president in US history.
It is not even close Lincoln Washington. Throw anybody at me. Okay,
He's the greatest ever, point blank and he's the greatest
leader in world history. So we can go a step further.

(20:22):
But I don't know anybody that could meet with President
Putin on a Friday. He flies back in the wee
hours of the morning. You probably landed back in Andrews
Air Force Base sometime in Saturday in the middle of
the night. And then on Monday, he's got the European

(20:42):
leaders meeting him at the White House, sitting around a
table wanting to make peace. He's ended six wars in
six months, and this is going to be number seven.
It's going to be peace through strength. I trust him
a thousand percent. And you know, here's the guy that
he took a bullet for his country. Jeffy get up.
He gets up and he says, fight, fight, fight. I

(21:04):
trust him all the way with our lives. He's not
going to put us in Ham's way. In fact, you
might even see as much as everybody you know wants
to criticize President Putin, and I know, you know the fog,
this and that, all these things that people throw out
there about him. But Trump is going to do something
unprecedented with trade. I think he's going to make a

(21:27):
trade deal with them. Also, that's going to be benefit
our country, So I don't think that he's doing anything
to put us in harm's way. I trust him one
thousand percent. He's the greatest president this country's ever known,
and there'll never be another one like him. We are
living in this time witnessing this. It is so special,
it's so amazing. I know, we can go down that

(21:50):
rabbit hole of oh my gosh, you know, what is
he doing? And people are questioning him. You know, I
don't get that point of view. But everyone's entitled their
own opinion, Jeff, But I trust him one thousand percent.
I think he's doing a great job. It's unpresented that.
I don't know anybody can do what he's doing well well.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
And just to add, just to add to what you're saying, Tony,
this is what is absolutely remarkable. He's seventy nine years old.
I mean, you know, look, I understand people.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
How do I say this?

Speaker 1 (22:21):
You know today sixty five is not sixty five of
twenty thirty years ago. I get that. You know, people
are living longer, they're living healthier lives, more energetic lives
than ever before. I get that, But still seventy nine
is still seventy nine. And this guy is you know,

(22:42):
the limitless energy that he has. He really is a
warrior for peace. And you know, people, again, this is
like a little bit like when we invaded Afghanistan and
how quickly the Taliban feil. I mean, I'm not talking
about how they bungled the post you know, invasion occupation

(23:05):
that was a disaster, but the actual operation itself. I
remember I was in the newsroom at the Washington Times
and it was just weird. All these reporters were like
hum drum, you know, like yeah, and I'm like, do
you know that Afghanistan is the graveyard of empires? Do
you know that Great Britain at its absolute height, when
it was the world's superpower couldn't conquer Afghanistan the only

(23:27):
times the Russians tried to conquer Afghanistan, and our troops
did it in less than a month. Like do you
understand how impressive of a military operation this is? And
I'm like, you know, hello, like you know, no, you
don't get you know, like anyway, look what Trump has
now done. He has moved the president of Russia to

(23:52):
agree to security guarantees by the Europeans and the Americans
with we know for a fact, British, French, German, Italian,
Finnish military bases and troops in Ukraine, and the possibility

(24:14):
of American bases and troops, which I hope does not happen,
but with that possibility as well, he has gotten the
Russian president to agree. He has gotten the European leaders,
all the top leaders to agree they are going to
share the bulk of the burden in terms of troops, weapons, equipment,

(24:40):
financial aid, the whole shebang, as they say. And he's
got Zelenski to agree to what he said we would
never agree to, which is essentially seeding twenty percent of
his country, giving up substantial territory. I mean, look diplomatically,

(25:02):
what he's done is incredible. Now furthermore, and this I
think needs to be said. What I don't understand from
the media and the Democrats in particular, who are sniping
at him, attacking him, excoriating him. So I just want
to state the record, you know, state the record, because

(25:22):
it needs to be stated. Trump was not president when
Crimea was annexed by Putin. Trump was not president when
the Dawn Bass was invaded and they almost took Kiev.
Trump was not president when it was Biden that offered

(25:45):
NATO membership to Ukraine. In other words, you can say
whatever you want about Trump, but it was Obama that
turned a blind eye when Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine and
took Crimea.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
George H. W.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Bush was president when Putin invaded Georgia and next remember
those two territories, Abkhazia and North Ossetia. So that was
under Bush. It wasn't Trump who came up with that
plastic red reset button. If you remember that, Hillary came

(26:22):
up with and she was like, here, press it to Putin,
press it, ha ha, and they did that famous reset.
That wasn't Donald Trump. That was either Hillary, George W. Bush,
Obama or Biden. So Trump's argument, and he's got a
very stronger in fact, it's an irrefutable argument.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
I didn't make this mess. You did.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
You say I'm empowering Putin. You all empowered Putin. I'm
the one that's getting Putin to make substantial concessions. None
of you did. You gave him Crimea on a silver platter.
You gave him the dawn bass on a silver platter.
You gave him parts of Georgia on a silver platter.
You guys did nothing as Putin has been rampaging across

(27:11):
that part of the world, and suddenly I'm the bad
guy because I'm an actual mature statesman, and I say,
you know, if you want peace, you got to.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Talk to both sides.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
So yeah, Trump could call Putin a killer and a
murderer and a thug and puh spit in his face,
a la joey, And what is Putin going to sit
down with him?

Speaker 7 (27:37):
No?

Speaker 3 (27:38):
And what does that mean?

Speaker 1 (27:39):
More people continue to fight, more dying, more death, more destruction.
Someone's got to be the grown up in the room.
So I'm looking at President Trump and I'm like, you
inherited a mess of all messes. So to me, when
I look at the media, criticize it. Uncle, you have

(28:01):
no grounds to criticize Trump on anything. And never forget this, Tony.
This is the one that sticks in my craw as
a Khrushav famously said at the United Nations, the bone
in my throat.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
That I can't swallow.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
After they pressed the reset button with Putin, after they
turned a blind eye when he invaded Crimea and parts
of eastern Ukraine in twenty fourteen and did nothing, literally nothing,
Obama nothing. Hillary Clinton nothing, John Kerry, Jef FRESCOI nothing.

(28:38):
They all did nothing. They then turned around and used
Russia to frame Trump as an agent of Moscow in
order to destroy him personally and sabotage and destroy his presidency.

(29:01):
And by doing that, let's be crystal clear, they got
millions of people killed because what they did was they
then destroyed the relationship with Russia itself. They deliberately turned
Russia into not just an adversary into a mortal enemy.
What they did to Trump and lying about Russia collusion

(29:24):
didn't just sabotage Trump and divide this country. It literally
destroyed our relationship with Russia. And the inevitable result was
the invasion of Ukraine and literally millions dead. So I'm sorry,
but I'm gonna call it the way I see it.

(29:46):
The man that is most innocent here is Trump. Now,
if I was advising him, I'll tell you what I
would tell him. Stay out of it. I know you
want peace. I know your heart it's in the right place.
I know you want to see an end to the
dying and the death and the misery.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
But I'm telling you, if this involves US security, guarantees
or God forbid, troops on the ground. This is gonna
lead to World War three, not today, not tomorrow, but
down the road.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Don't do it.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Russia is exhausted, Ukraine is exhausted. Ukrainian troops now do
not want to fight this war. They're not signing up
to fight now. Many of them are openly defying their
generals on the front lines. They've had it. Russian soldiers
are bleeding, they've had it. Let them continue to fight

(30:48):
until they're so exhausted that they'll be coming to you
begging for a peace deal. Now, if you force a
peace steal, they're gonna blame you in the end, they're
gonna blame you. And mark my words, Zelenski or whoever
comes after him is going to use the fact that

(31:10):
now the West and Europe and the United States are
supporting Ukraine and defending Ukraine. They're going to start a
false flag. They're going to want to get all that
territory back because they know the only way they can
beat Russia is if we fight their war. I know
that part of the world. They're cunning, they're treacherous, they're liars.

(31:34):
I'm not talking about the people I'm talking about the leadership,
and they will say one thing to you and say
the exact opposite thing behind closed doors. I don't trust
Zelenski as far as I can throw them. I don't
trust Putin as far as I can throw them. Stay out.

(31:56):
It's none of our business. That's strong advice to the president.
But I hear you, Tony, and thank you very much
for that call. And by the way, that's why Zelensky
is begging for British troops, French troops, Italian troops, Finnish troops,
American troops. His army is decimated. So if Ukrainian boys

(32:24):
no longer want to fight to defend Ukraine, what now
we're going to send what British boys, American boys, French boys,
and now of course girls, men and women. We're going
to send men and women to fight and die on
behalf of Ukraine. I don't think so. I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
You should. What did I say within two weeks of
the war? I said it.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Then I said, if Zelensky's smart, make a deal, now,
make a deal now, because you're not winning this war.
Instead egg done by Boris Johnson, egged on by Joey.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Fight Fight, fight, fight, fight.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Well, now it's three and a half years later, Ukraine
has lost god knows how many people, how many children, civilians, women,
ten million refugees, and they've lost even more territory, much
more territory. Had they signed the deal within the first

(33:28):
two weeks. You know what Putin's terms were in the
first two weeks. Just don't get into NATO. That's it,
that's it, and I pull all of my forces back
to what they were the twenty the two fourteen borders.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
He'd go.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
He with keep PRIMEA but everything that they had taken
after February twenty twenty two he would pull back from.
They never would have lost Eastern Ukraine. Nope, fight fight. Okay,
Now it's three and a half years later, you just
lost twenty percent of your country and essentially you've broken

(34:08):
your country with a million wounded and dead. Genius, genius,
but Zelenski stole a lot of money. He did manage
to steal a ton and so did his cronies. So
to me, one of the conditions for a peace deal elections.

(34:28):
To me, that's the okay, okay, you want you want
everybody to undergird your security. Fine, hold an election, hold
an election, and you'll see what happens. They're gonna vote
Zelenski's ass out. He won't even get thirty percent of
the vote. Six one seven two six six sixty eight
sixty eight.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Just my opinion.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Hillary in Maryland, Thanks for holding Hillary, and welcome.

Speaker 7 (34:55):
Good morning, Jeff.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Hi.

Speaker 7 (34:57):
As you've said many times, this isn't America first. Then
I think you just simply ask yourself a couple questions,
like who benefits. Well, Trump is going to benefit because
he's going to get all the accolades, and you know,
probably the Nobel Peace Prize, as you said, and the
industrial military complex is going to benefit because I guess

(35:17):
they're going to be selling a lot of weapons. Apparently
that's part of the deal. But you still have Americans here,
you know, young Americans who can't afford to buy a home.
I mean, it doesn't benefit.

Speaker 6 (35:26):
Us at all.

Speaker 7 (35:27):
When you ask yourself the start question, is this America first?
As you've illustrated you know throughout the last hour, it's
absolutely not America first. But the thing is we were
promised America first. And I just this other guy that
called in a few minutes ago, how he says he
trusts Trump. No matter what he does, he supports him.
I mean, if there's no pushback from from MAGA or whatever.

(35:51):
I mean, it's like it seems like no matter you know,
how much he insults our intelligence and kicks our teeth
in with respect to keeping his promise about America first,
you know, he's still you know, celebrated, and I get
the diplomatic thing, and I you know, I'm for that
if it wouldn't involve us in any way, but he's
put us on the hook, and that is not America first.

(36:14):
And so I don't really understand what everyone is celebrating
Trump for because I you know, a Ukraine and Russia,
they're not American. I really don't care, quite frankly, I
care about my own country. And you know, he shouldn't
have gotten involved. He can be a peacemaker, a moderator,
you know, go between, you know, a negotiator, but if

(36:37):
he's got to put us on the hook for it,
you know, how does that help us? It doesn't. And
I'm really tired of.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
It.

Speaker 7 (36:44):
You know. It's everything that we were promised is just
not coming to pass, you know, I mean, I don't
he was supposed to be the guy that didn't want
to get us involved in foreign entanglements, and yet that's
exactly what he's been doing. So I just I'm very frustrated.
You know, I called last time, I called about the
Epstein cover up, and you know, a lot of these

(37:07):
and as far as the deportations are going, I mean,
it's not as mass as we would like to think
it is. I think we think that because the you know,
law hasn't been forced in so long. When we see
any deportations, we think it's mass importations. But I don't know.
Just I'm I'm left very disappointed, and I just don't
understand why people will not like hold his feet at

(37:28):
the fire a little bit more. So that's my comment. Basically,
maybe you can help me out explain it.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Well, Hillary, let me ask you what we've got about
a minute left. Are you.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Are you have you soured on Trump? Has he lost
your support? Or are you just disappointed but you'll continue
to support him.

Speaker 7 (37:48):
I'm he's kind of lost my support. I mean, he
could regain it, but you know, the stuff he's doing
now isn't isn't helping. I mean, I want what was
promised to America, I mean to Americans, I want our
country to be put first, and I don't even go
a step further. It shouldn't be America first. It should
be America only. You know, when you look at the
state that our country is in, you hadn't even mentioned,

(38:10):
you know, sending our military around the world. And while
we have a sealed border for now, I mean, our
military would be best serve being on our border. Oh,
I agree, and I just I don't understand. You know,
everyone is still celebrating what Trump's doing, But how is
that America first? You cannot tell me that it is.
I mean, am I wrong?

Speaker 3 (38:30):
No, No, you're not wrong.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
That's why I oppose sending troops to Ukraine or guaranteeing
their borders. That's frankly, that should be the job of
Ukrainians if they want to defend it.