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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Boston's bulldozer never sleeps. The Kooner Report weekend edition on
the Voice of Boston WRKO.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Joining me now as she always does at this time,
Doctor Grace, putting liberals in their place, Grace Voto full disclosure. Yes,
you better believe it. I'm married up. She's my wonderful wife, Grace.
I know you feel so passionate about the Epstein files.
In a way, this is almost like a personal vindication
(00:28):
for you. You've been on a personal jihad to get
justice for these victims. The House passed it yesterday four
hundred and twenty seven to one, the Senate by unanimous consent.
The bill is now going to Trump's desk. He will
sign it later today, forcing Pam Bondi and the DOJ
to release the Epstein files. What's your reaction, Jeff.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Honestly, when I heard the news that the Senate then
passed it by unanimous consent, I was in the car
driving Ashton around to one of his sports events. I
was in tears. I was overjoyed. I am delighted for
those girls. I think this is a very simple case.
We have to stand with the victims, and I want
(01:13):
to see our president stand with the victims. And one
of the things that we have all noticed and we've
been shocked, is why has it been so hard for
President Trump to do what all of us feel instinctively
he should do. He should be the champion of these girls,
and instead he hasn't been. And the question we have
(01:35):
all pondered is why. And because we've asked that question,
the left is going crazy thinking, oh, it must mean
it's because he did old girls too, and that's false.
We know that that's false because the girls have said
he didn't do that. But something is still wrong, and
I want to shed light on what that possibly is.
Think about what Donald Trump's life was while he was
(01:59):
friends with Epstein. He was married to Marla Maples in
those years that he was friends with Epstein until nineteen
ninety seven. He divorced her in nineteen ninety nine officially,
but they were separated in nineteen ninety seven. So in
those years that he was partying with Epstein, he was
a married man for a portion of it, and he
(02:22):
was obviously misbehaving as a married man. Then in nineteen
ninety eight he married. He met Milania in nineteen ninety eight,
and he courted her until he married her in two
thousand and five. So during the height of his courtship
with Milania until the moment that he married her in
two thousand and five, what I think he doesn't want
(02:44):
to come out is that he was unfaithful. I think
that this is what he's hiding. He is now a
person who has remade his public image as a family
man and as somebody who later on in life found Christianity.
And what I think he doesn't want to come out
he doesn't want American school children and teenagers and the
(03:04):
history books to just record over and over again how
unfaithful he was. And I also think he wants to
spare Millennia the pain and humiliation. But during those years
that he was courting her, that she might have the
most beautiful memories of the courtship, of the engagement, of
the days leading up to their marriage, that he was
(03:27):
a playbol even then, that his whole relationship with Milania
has been a big lie.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Well, Greg, I don't mean to cut you off, but
I've got a I mean, of course I'm being tongue
in cheek here, but have you been talking to Bill
and Sudbury. I mean, this is pure speculation. I mean,
what I'm saying is like, you know, I think this.
I think that I think, you know, he fears what
you know. First of all, there's no evidence that he
cheated on Marlin Maples. There's no evidence that he cheated
(03:54):
on Milania. I mean, yeah, there were rumors, but there's
no evidence. So that that's number one number two. So
I think, honestly, you're kind of you're maligning the man.
I'll be honest with you. You're maligning him, and I
don't think it's fair. You know, that's number one number two.
There's no evidence whatsoever that there's you know, a videotape
(04:14):
of him or pictures of him, or you know, having
sex with other women above age I mean, above the
age of consent. There's no evidence of any of this.
So this is all literally pure speculation. What we do
know for a fact is that he never touched an
underage girl and he wasn't involved in sex trafficking. Those
(04:37):
are the two most damning things against Epstein and against
the people that he surrounded himself with, with these powerful,
wealthy people. Now, if Trump cheated or didn't cheat, look,
Millennia's a big girl. You know, she knows who Trump
is that's between her and Trump. I don't think to
(04:58):
be honest. After there everything Trump has been through, Stormy Daniels,
devicious press attacks against him as a philanderer, that suddenly
now in twenty twenty five, Donald Trump is worried that, ooh,
Millania may think I cheated on her while we were married.
(05:20):
I mean that that train has left the station a
long time ago. So I would, all due respect, I
think you're barking up the wrong tree.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
What say you listen to me, Jeff, listen to it
just one second. There is evidence during the Stormy Daniels trial,
and one thing I always disagreed with you on.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I thought he didn't do anything illegal, but I thought
he definitely slept with Stormy Daniels. There was a key
moment when Hope Hicks came on the stand, Hope Picks
loves Donald Trump and crying on the stand, she said
that he told her, listen, I don't want Milania to
see the press report about this, Okay, I don't want
(06:02):
her to see this because men think it's cool if
I slept with a prostitute, but women won't think it's cool.
So we do have evidence about some behavior that is
very shady with women. So this is not just your relation, Jeff.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
This is a lie.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Let's just listen. You spoke, I'm speaking. Now. Listen. How
did his first marriage break up because he cheated on
the first wife with Marla Maples. This is a fact.
So he's been a cheater. Okay, he's been a cheater,
and I contend he's been a cheater his whole life.
But he's tried to remake his public image as much
more of a family man who found Christianity. But wink
(06:42):
wink with the boys, he kind of says a different
story and that's who this guy is. And we know that. Now,
this is what doesn't make sense to everybody.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, but Grace, I gotta I gotta say he's not
running again, like you know, in terms of you know,
you're saying upholding his image. And the thing is, I
think he's just trying to protect his wife from these
nasty press reports. You know, I think it's not an
admission of guilt. It's you know, I don't want my
wife to read this. This is humiliating to my wife
(07:12):
because people are going to think it's true, or some
people are going to think it's true. But look, we've
got about two minutes left in the interview. I just
got to ask you. We started off with Jeffrey Epstein,
We started off with a pedophile, a globalist sex trafficking network,
and now we're down to Marla Maples and Stormy Daniels
(07:35):
and Donald Trump maybe or maybe not cheating on Millennia, Like,
how did we get here? I mean, the point is
he's going to sign the bill, so it's all going
to come out. So we're going to know very soon
what's in those files. And my question to you is,
do you think there's any evidence there that Donald Trump
(07:58):
did anything illegal or was involved with Epstein, whether it
be in trafficking young girls or in engaging and inappropriate
behavior with underage girls.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I do not think he did anything illegal, but I
think he conducted himself in an immoral and ungentlemanly manner.
And I think that's why he doesn't seem to be
a champion of these girls, and that's why he's been stalling.
That's why he's involved in a cover up, that's why
we've had to get him to sign this kicking and screaming.
That's why he's accusing Madrie Taylor Green of being a
quote unquote trader. I think it's because he doesn't want
(08:34):
to be embarrassed by his past behavior. But it's not illegal,
just immoral and sleazy. As a man who was telling
women that he was in an amorous relationship with a
different story, he doesn't want all that to come out.
It's embarrassing for his children, for his wife, for his grandchildren.
I think that's what he's hiding that.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
M Look, let me let me ask you this. We
got about a minute left once these files are released,
and there's nothing in there about Trump sleeping with other women,
cheating on his wife, having amorous relationships, as you put it,
will you publicly apologize to Trump? Basically, I almost need
(09:16):
a yes or no answer.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Oh. I want him to apologize to me for calling
me stupid, for rappy, for the Epstein file to be released,
and apologize to Montrea Taylor Green for calling her a
trader for defending these girls.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Well, she's calling him a trader, I mean, you know
what I mean. Now, it's she's calling him a trader too,
now so, and she's called a lot of people traders,
so you know her hands are not clean either. Now, Look,
he shouldn't have said people are dumb and stupid, you know,
for having wanting the Epstein files to be released. That
was a mistake. But you know, I wouldn't take it
(09:49):
so personally, grace honestly, you know. I mean, look, I
wanted the Epstein files released. You know, he's basically he said,
I'm stupid too. Okay, it's politics, it's a tech sport.
The point is he did the right thing and that's
what matters. But thank you for coming on. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Jeff doesn't get a day off. This request came from
his wife. The Kuner Report weekend edition on the Boys
of Boston w RKO
Boston's bulldozer never sleeps. The Kooner Report weekend edition on
the Voice of Boston WRKO.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Joining me now as she always does at this time,
Doctor Grace, putting liberals in their place, Grace Voto full disclosure. Yes,
you better believe it. I'm married up. She's my wonderful wife, Grace.
I know you feel so passionate about the Epstein files.
In a way, this is almost like a personal vindication
(00:28):
for you. You've been on a personal jihad to get
justice for these victims. The House passed it yesterday four
hundred and twenty seven to one, the Senate by unanimous consent.
The bill is now going to Trump's desk. He will
sign it later today, forcing Pam Bondi and the DOJ
to release the Epstein files. What's your reaction, Jeff.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Honestly, when I heard the news that the Senate then
passed it by unanimous consent, I was in the car
driving Ashton around to one of his sports events. I
was in tears. I was overjoyed. I am delighted for
those girls. I think this is a very simple case.
We have to stand with the victims, and I want
(01:13):
to see our president stand with the victims. And one
of the things that we have all noticed and we've
been shocked, is why has it been so hard for
President Trump to do what all of us feel instinctively
he should do. He should be the champion of these girls,
and instead he hasn't been. And the question we have
(01:35):
all pondered is why. And because we've asked that question,
the left is going crazy thinking, oh, it must mean
it's because he did old girls too, and that's false.
We know that that's false because the girls have said
he didn't do that. But something is still wrong, and
I want to shed light on what that possibly is.
Think about what Donald Trump's life was while he was
(01:59):
friends with Epstein. He was married to Marla Maples in
those years that he was friends with Epstein until nineteen
ninety seven. He divorced her in nineteen ninety nine officially,
but they were separated in nineteen ninety seven. So in
those years that he was partying with Epstein, he was
a married man for a portion of it, and he
(02:22):
was obviously misbehaving as a married man. Then in nineteen
ninety eight he married. He met Milania in nineteen ninety eight,
and he courted her until he married her in two
thousand and five. So during the height of his courtship
with Milania until the moment that he married her in
two thousand and five, what I think he doesn't want
(02:44):
to come out is that he was unfaithful. I think
that this is what he's hiding. He is now a
person who has remade his public image as a family
man and as somebody who later on in life found Christianity.
And what I think he doesn't want to come out
he doesn't want American school children and teenagers and the
(03:04):
history books to just record over and over again how
unfaithful he was. And I also think he wants to
spare Millennia the pain and humiliation. But during those years
that he was courting her, that she might have the
most beautiful memories of the courtship, of the engagement, of
the days leading up to their marriage, that he was
(03:27):
a playbol even then, that his whole relationship with Milania
has been a big lie.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Well, Greg, I don't mean to cut you off, but
I've got a I mean, of course I'm being tongue
in cheek here, but have you been talking to Bill
and Sudbury. I mean, this is pure speculation. I mean,
what I'm saying is like, you know, I think this.
I think that I think, you know, he fears what
you know. First of all, there's no evidence that he
cheated on Marlin Maples. There's no evidence that he cheated
(03:54):
on Milania. I mean, yeah, there were rumors, but there's
no evidence. So that that's number one number two. So
I think, honestly, you're kind of you're maligning the man.
I'll be honest with you. You're maligning him, and I
don't think it's fair. You know, that's number one number two.
There's no evidence whatsoever that there's you know, a videotape
(04:14):
of him or pictures of him, or you know, having
sex with other women above age I mean, above the
age of consent. There's no evidence of any of this.
So this is all literally pure speculation. What we do
know for a fact is that he never touched an
underage girl and he wasn't involved in sex trafficking. Those
(04:37):
are the two most damning things against Epstein and against
the people that he surrounded himself with, with these powerful,
wealthy people. Now, if Trump cheated or didn't cheat, look,
Millennia's a big girl. You know, she knows who Trump
is that's between her and Trump. I don't think to
(04:58):
be honest. After there everything Trump has been through, Stormy Daniels,
devicious press attacks against him as a philanderer, that suddenly
now in twenty twenty five, Donald Trump is worried that, ooh,
Millania may think I cheated on her while we were married.
(05:20):
I mean that that train has left the station a
long time ago. So I would, all due respect, I
think you're barking up the wrong tree.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
What say you listen to me, Jeff, listen to it
just one second. There is evidence during the Stormy Daniels trial,
and one thing I always disagreed with you on.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I thought he didn't do anything illegal, but I thought
he definitely slept with Stormy Daniels. There was a key
moment when Hope Hicks came on the stand, Hope Picks
loves Donald Trump and crying on the stand, she said
that he told her, listen, I don't want Milania to
see the press report about this, Okay, I don't want
(06:02):
her to see this because men think it's cool if
I slept with a prostitute, but women won't think it's cool.
So we do have evidence about some behavior that is
very shady with women. So this is not just your relation, Jeff.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
This is a lie.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Let's just listen. You spoke, I'm speaking. Now. Listen. How
did his first marriage break up because he cheated on
the first wife with Marla Maples. This is a fact.
So he's been a cheater. Okay, he's been a cheater,
and I contend he's been a cheater his whole life.
But he's tried to remake his public image as much
more of a family man who found Christianity. But wink
(06:42):
wink with the boys, he kind of says a different
story and that's who this guy is. And we know that. Now,
this is what doesn't make sense to everybody.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, but Grace, I gotta I gotta say he's not
running again, like you know, in terms of you know,
you're saying upholding his image. And the thing is, I
think he's just trying to protect his wife from these
nasty press reports. You know, I think it's not an
admission of guilt. It's you know, I don't want my
wife to read this. This is humiliating to my wife
(07:12):
because people are going to think it's true, or some
people are going to think it's true. But look, we've
got about two minutes left in the interview. I just
got to ask you. We started off with Jeffrey Epstein,
We started off with a pedophile, a globalist sex trafficking network,
and now we're down to Marla Maples and Stormy Daniels
(07:35):
and Donald Trump maybe or maybe not cheating on Millennia, Like,
how did we get here? I mean, the point is
he's going to sign the bill, so it's all going
to come out. So we're going to know very soon
what's in those files. And my question to you is,
do you think there's any evidence there that Donald Trump
(07:58):
did anything illegal or was involved with Epstein, whether it
be in trafficking young girls or in engaging and inappropriate
behavior with underage girls.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I do not think he did anything illegal, but I
think he conducted himself in an immoral and ungentlemanly manner.
And I think that's why he doesn't seem to be
a champion of these girls, and that's why he's been stalling.
That's why he's involved in a cover up, that's why
we've had to get him to sign this kicking and screaming.
That's why he's accusing Madrie Taylor Green of being a
quote unquote trader. I think it's because he doesn't want
(08:34):
to be embarrassed by his past behavior. But it's not illegal,
just immoral and sleazy. As a man who was telling
women that he was in an amorous relationship with a
different story, he doesn't want all that to come out.
It's embarrassing for his children, for his wife, for his grandchildren.
I think that's what he's hiding that.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
M Look, let me let me ask you this. We
got about a minute left once these files are released,
and there's nothing in there about Trump sleeping with other women,
cheating on his wife, having amorous relationships, as you put it,
will you publicly apologize to Trump? Basically, I almost need
(09:16):
a yes or no answer.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Oh. I want him to apologize to me for calling
me stupid, for rappy, for the Epstein file to be released,
and apologize to Montrea Taylor Green for calling her a
trader for defending these girls.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Well, she's calling him a trader, I mean, you know
what I mean. Now, it's she's calling him a trader too,
now so, and she's called a lot of people traders,
so you know her hands are not clean either. Now, Look,
he shouldn't have said people are dumb and stupid, you know,
for having wanting the Epstein files to be released. That
was a mistake. But you know, I wouldn't take it
(09:49):
so personally, grace honestly, you know. I mean, look, I
wanted the Epstein files released. You know, he's basically he said,
I'm stupid too. Okay, it's politics, it's a tech sport.
The point is he did the right thing and that's
what matters. But thank you for coming on. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Jeff doesn't get a day off. This request came from
his wife. The Kuner Report weekend edition on the Boys
of Boston w RKO
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