Should Football be Revamped?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six one seven two six six, sixty eight sixty eight
is the number. Okay. This is from John on Messenger
and he makes a very interesting point, Jeff, I have
a close family member who works with trauma surgeons. Interesting,
they all say, if you want to stop the head

(00:22):
injuries in football, take off the helmets. Well that's I
think that's what a lot of you are starting to say. Frankly,
but that's a very interesting point. This is from a
friend of mine, Manny Manny Roberto. Many of you know him.
He's a marine, former marine, I guess, but once a marine,

(00:43):
always a marine, a veteran a marine, and a tough guy.
I mean, if you know him, he's really, you know,
a big man, a strong man, very physical man, a
great patriot by the way. So he's not some woos
or you know sissy, far the exact opposite. And this
is what he said, Jeff in his text to me.

(01:04):
Anyone who knows me knows that I've been saying it
for years. Take the helmets away, go back to leather helmets.
They will stop doing what they do. They can learn
to play the game the way it was meant to
be played. Interesting. So, and this is what I was

(01:26):
trying to tell Mike during the break and he, you know,
he was getting mad at me because he loves football.
He's a borderline football fanatic, which is fine. He's very
passionate about football. It's a great American game. I love
football too, and he really I said, you know, Mike,
I'm sensing a change slowly in the culture. I said,

(01:46):
I think not today, not tomorrow, but maybe ten fifteen
years from now. You may see them play with I
don't know, less equipment or maybe even leather helmets and
just see a less violent, physical game than what it
is now. And Mike was saying, no way. Mike was

(02:11):
basically saying, over my dead body, he wants the helmets,
he likes the contact. Keep the helmets, keep the contact.
Leave football alone. But I was really, I was trying
to say, Mike, really, it's not a sissification or a
wissification of America. I think these traumatic brain injuries are

(02:36):
becoming such a problem and becoming so prevalent that the
NFL again, not today, not tomorrow, but they may have
no choice down the road. You know, you got parents
who are going to start demanding it. More and more
parents are not allowing their children to play football because
of this, which is going to narrow the pipeline of

(02:58):
potential talent down the road. And there could be just
too much pressure where they say, okay, let's you know,
maybe let's get rid of the helmets, go back to
leather helmets. And you know, when you do a tackle,
you just bring the guy down. You don't take his
head off. Six one seven two six six sixty eight

(03:18):
sixty eight. But you know, but that's me Sue in Maine.
Thanks for holding, Sue.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
And welcome.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Hi Jeff. How are you very good?

Speaker 1 (03:28):
How are you, Sue?

Speaker 3 (03:30):
I'm excellent. I'm way up on a ladder painting a house.
Don't be surprised, Okay, as long.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
As you don't drop, that's all that matters, Sue. Forget
the phone. It's you, you, you matter.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
I gotta tell you though. Your knowledge of football is
really kind of could be pit on the head of
a pen. The game.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Your job on you.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Know, is to protect the quarterback, okay, and you have
to be bigger, faster, stronger, heavier, and you know, harder,
hit harder than the guy who's against you. And he
has to be bigger, faster, stronger than you in order
to get through you. So that's how it gets. I
mean every year it gets a little more aggressive and
a little more aggressive, but in the same vein the person.

(04:18):
In Lewiston, a couple of years ago, we suffered a
mass shooting of a man who suffered from severe brain
injury due to his time in the Armed services, and
he shot close to twenty people in two different venues.
It's a horrible thing and it's something that you know
a lot of people are still trying to recover from.

(04:39):
So everything was missed. The army didn't tell the psychiatrists.
The psychiatrist didn't tell the police here, the family knew
he had violent tendencies, and nobody took his guns away,
which has now led to you know, it's now led
to the legislature putting red flag gun laws on our

(05:01):
ballot for next year. So I just want to tell
you it's not necessarily football. It's causing severe brain injuries
that causes people to behave in horrible, horrible ways. So
that's about all I had to say.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Well, that's an excellent point. Look, I don't want to
get too much into the weeds here, but during the
Iraq War, even during the Afghanistan war, I met with
a lot of veterans and many of them told me
they suffered from CTE. You know, yes PTSD, but they
said no ct I'm like, well, that's it. It's strange.
They go, no, you don't understand. We dealt with all

(05:38):
these roadside bombs or other bombs that were planted when
we would go house to house, say in Iraq or Afghanistan.
But the armor, the protective gear now that soldiers are
able to wear are soldiers, you can actually survive a
direct ied blast. But what it does is it's like

(06:00):
it rattles your brain. Right, you get like blown up,
like boom and you get blown back, and they go no.
I mean I started a couple of and told me.
I'm like, I can't believe this. They go no, I
survived it, but the blow was so massive that my
brain just rattled against my skull and I ended up
having severe brain trauma or brain injury. And they had

(06:24):
the same symptoms of what you're discussing, you know, massive
memory loss, cognitive impairment, massive crippling headaches. And some of
them did lose it. I mean, they just they just
lost it. So you're right, it's not just football. You're
completely right, So it look, I think it's an issue
we have to deal with. Doesn't justify massacrering innocent people obviously. Okay,

(06:50):
honestly I love these kinds of shows, not because of
what happened yesterday. To me, that's heartbreaking, but a show
where the audience is genuinely split. I think it's for me,
the funnest show to do in terms of hearing both
sides of an argument. And so you're really starting to
see it. So this is from nine to one seven.

(07:10):
You can text the cooner man seven zero four seven
zero seven zero four seven zero Jeff. It seems the
football helmet makes the player feel like he can play
rougher and that the helmet will protect him when it
actually it seems it may be doing just the opposite.

(07:31):
A false sense of helmet safety makes them play rougher.
It would be interesting to hear what an actual NFL
player has to say. Very good point nine one seven. Now,
this is from my sister in Tucson, Arizona, Jennifer, Jeff,
I'm with Mike, if you want to take off the

(07:52):
helmet play rugby. As with regard to the shooter, they
are blaming football, But what about video games, absent parents,
or a violent upbringing. We can't just always blame concussions
for a person's violent act. Probably someone told him the

(08:15):
NFL was to blame for his problems, and that's why
this guy took it out on that skyscraper in Manhattan. Interesting. Interesting,
Let me just say two other super quick points, because
the lines are jammed. Six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight. Number one. There were some rumors

(08:37):
on the internet yesterday and they were just rumors that
apparently the shooter, this skuy Shane Tamura, yelled out free
Palestine as he was shooting people up in the lobby.
Now police say that was just a rumor. They don't
have any witnesses that corroborate that. In fact, quite the opposite.

(09:00):
They don't believe this was a political act of terrorism
or a pro Palestinian active terror. Plus, he did leave
it seems a suicide note where he goes on about
his concussions, his CTE, his brain trauma, and how it
made his life absolutely miserable, unbearable, and that he was

(09:20):
angry at the NFL because he was apparently a rising
superstar in high school football in California, where everybody said
he was going to inevitably make it to the NFL
and make multi, multi millions of dollars. As one of
his teammates said, quote, for Shane, the sky was the limit,

(09:46):
and then it wasn't. In other words, something happened to
him after his senior year in high school where he
just started to suffer these debilitating headaches. He couldn't concentrate,
he couldn't focus that apparently he began to get all
these kinds of dizzy spells, suffered from a major memory loss.

(10:06):
His life began to just go downhill from their spiral downwards.
He didn't play college football, or didn't go far into
college football, and then ended up being a security guard
in Las Vegas. And he just said life was too
unbearable for him. He was on very heavy medication. He
suffered from serious mental health issues dealing to due to

(10:27):
all that massive brain trauma and the repeated concussions, and
which begs the question, how to hell did this guy
get a concealing carry permit. I mean, that's a big
question that needs to be answered now furthermore, and I
just want to say this, and then I want to
go right back to the phone lines. There is something wrong,

(10:48):
and it's not just in America. We are seeing mass shootings.
Whether it be in Canada, in Australia, across Europe, it
doesn't matter. But there is something per foundly sick about
Western society in general. And I'm just going to speak
now here in the United States because I'm a proud American.

(11:10):
Here in America, we have way too many of these shootings,
just way too many of them. And it's not the guns.
It's not more gun laws or more gun control, because
other countries around the world who have the strictest gun
laws have the very same kind of problems. And if

(11:31):
like in Britain, if they don't use guns, it's mass stabbings.
People are going around with these huge, you know, butcher
knives or steak knives and just senselessly slaughtering people. So
it's not that at all. New York City also has
some of the strictest gun control laws in the entire country.

(11:53):
That didn't stop it. Okay, so apparently yeah, so apparently
he was JV in high school, so apparently they kind
of overrated what kind of a star he was going
to be. But anyway, whatever, it is. He had promises
of making it big, or at least that's what his

(12:13):
coaches told him. And the guy kept playing football and
they kept getting concussion after concussion until his brain was
starting to tear apart, and this is what happened. But
my point is we're having way too many of these
shootings or mass stabbings in Britain or whatever. There is

(12:34):
something going on in our culture and in our society,
and there's a lot of factors. I don't think there's
a simple solution or a simple answer, but something profound
has been happening now for at least twenty five years.
The look, a lot of people have concussions, a lot

(12:55):
of people have brain trauma. They don't shoot up a
freaking building or in Britain go around with a steak
knife and start chopping people up. So there's something going on.
And to me, the image that stays in my mind
is this guy not just with the gun, but as

(13:15):
he seconds away from slaughtering butchering, you know, massacring innocent
people is cool, wearing sunglasses, calm, nonchalant, relaxed, like he's
about to order a burger and a shake. The complete

(13:39):
lack of regard for human life, the complete lack of
human empathy, the complete lack of a conscience. That to
me is what is shocking. And you know, all you
keep hearing from the left over and his banned the guns,
Ban the gun. Now, it's banned football, band, football, band, football,

(14:00):
doesn't matter. It's always banned some object. But no one's
asking what's happening to the human soul, what's happening to
our moral fabric, what's happening to our society that's causing
one mass killing after another, after another after another. It's

(14:22):
like a relentless wave now and again, not to beat
a dead horse. Countries states in this, in our country,
that have the strictest gun control laws, it's not stopping it.
Is it the drugs? Is it the medications? Are we

(14:44):
over medicated? Is it the lack of parenting? Is it
the lack of faith and religion and morality that we're
not instilling basic values like right and wrong, good and evil?
Is it the loss of God? Is it the loss Christianity?
Is it? You could go on and on. Is it

(15:04):
the breakdown of the family? You can give you know,
there are so many components to this, but there's no
question this number. Look, there's always been mass shootings or
mass killings throughout history, but the frequency, the intensity, we've
never seen anything like it. So there's something going on.

(15:31):
And to me, it's the sign of a very sick society.
And I'm including Canada, I'm including Australia. I'm including Britain
and France and Norway and Germany and countries all across
the west. This is not just an American phenomenon. Six
one seven two, six, six sixty eight sixty eight is

(15:51):
the number. Okay, just very very quickly, Sandy was just
talking to me off air, and she made an absolutely
excellent point, which is, you know, Jeff, you know, she goes,
I've done some digging into his background. Yeah, he was
a good football player, but he you know, he was
on the JV team, number one, number two. It looks

(16:13):
like he never made it to college. And you know,
she's making a very good point. She says, to college football,
forgive me, yeah, I'm not I don't know about college,
but to college football, it looks like he never made
it to college football, even though everybody said he had
his promising career and he was very good and seemed
to have a lot of talent. She said, you know, Jeff,
this guy just may have had psychological problems. Everybody's overlooking this,

(16:39):
like just serious mental health, psychological problems that had nothing
to do with traumatic brain injury. And that's why he
didn't make it to college football because he was too
much of a pain to deal with or had too
many issues to deal with. And for him, for this guy, Shane,
you know, the TOMA, this was easier for him to

(17:03):
blame it on CTE or the NFL or you know,
brain trauma then maybe confront the issues that he was
facing regarding mental health. And she says, look, people hate football,
which is true. People hate the NFL, which is true,

(17:23):
especially on the left, and they want to ban football.
They want to just get rid of it. So they
want to use this guy as a poster child to say, Aha,
you say, look, basically, football kills. Look look with it
that it destroyed his brain, and by destroying his brain,
it caused a serial killer, a mass killer. So you know,

(17:48):
she's right. She's saying, look, Jeff, whoa, We don't know
any of this is true. You know, everyone's saying he
probably had CTE. He's claiming that he had CTE, but
we don't even know if it's true, So this could
just be a very disturbed young man who didn't live
up to his potential, had psychological problems, and then decided

(18:12):
to blame the whole thing on traumatic brain injury because
maybe somebody told him to blame traumatic brain injury. What
is clear is that he suffered from mental health. That's
no question. He never made it to college football. It
embittered him, it angered him. He says he suffered from
debilitating headaches and that he wasn't able to concentrate. He

(18:35):
wasn't able to focus, that he had memory loss and
memory lapses, which is consistent with traumatic brain injury. Ended
up working as a security guard at a Las Vegas
casino and said that life wasn't worth living anymore, was unbearable,
and that he was on very heavy medication. That there's
no question hell even had the medication in his car

(18:57):
before he went and shot up the whole lobby and
then decided to do a two day trip cross country
to New York City to target the headquarters of the NFL. Well,
at least it appears to target the headquarters of the
NFL to me blame him don't blame football. I'm not
saying there can't be changes to football or reforms. I

(19:20):
don't like to see brain injury, you know. I don't
like to see players getting their brain smashed in. But
that to me is a separate issue. He is the killer,
he's responsible, he was the evildoer. Agree, disagree, Dave, our
Western PA constitutionalist correspondent out of Western Pennsylvania and Pittsburgh. Dave,

(19:44):
thanks for holding and welcome.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Good running, Jeff. I'm actually off from Mark. Today is
the teaching d to be with the waves, to go
up to the pool. So that's great, Dave. Listen, today
is the day, my friend, it is so hot outside.
You picked a great day to go to the pool.
My friend, Jeff, about the shooting in New York, this
could have been prevented, okay. I mean, it's terrible what happened.

(20:09):
We got to pray for the families that lost family.
But you know, for the Liberals to blame football in
the NFL, now this is this guy's fault, you know.
I mean, I wish you didn't have the brain issues
and all that, but you know, it's like you were
alluding to, it's almost a form of PTSD like I have.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
So well, Dave, if you and again if I'm getting
too personal, please tell me. But so Jeff good, I mean,
you know, I know you're a veteran and you served
our country and uh you you know you're a marine
or you know, a veteran. I was gonna say ex marine,
but marines are always marines. So Dave, I've got to

(20:47):
ask you with your PTSD, are you on medication?

Speaker 2 (20:52):
And I take care. I take it regularly. I go
to the VA here in Pittsburgh, who takes great care
of us. I I see my doctor at the IVA
who is also in the Navy. She diagnosed me through
with PTSD. And I go to my VFW and I
talk to my veteran brothers who have it, who have
a similar PTSD issues. But it may have it less

(21:14):
than me, may have it more. It's hard to, you know,
determine which was worse. But we're all there for each other.
And I got my beautiful wife who understands me, and
you know, and I got a God that loves me,
and good friends like you who love and care about
us too, And that's what's it all about. Love, and
you know. And then when I have about it. PTSD
usually exercise and workout, and I don't let it adversely

(21:35):
affect me because I'm also a gun on I wouldn't
hurt anybody. I control it. I don't want to control me. Jeff.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Well, Dave, you kind of anticipated my next question because
the way the left is presenting it is if you
have a quote unquote and I'm using this in air quotes, Dave,
a mental health issue, I'll let's say PTSD or whatever
that basically, you know you're a serial in the making.
You're the next Jack the Ripper. You know that you

(22:04):
can't control yourself and that this causes you to go
out and shoot people and massacre people. You're saying, no,
you have PTSD, you have issues. You control it, you
have medication, you see a doctor, You take good care
of it, you watch it, you monitor it, you have
your wife help you monitor it. You work out, you exercise,

(22:25):
you do everything you can to deal with anxiety and stress.
I take it, Dave. You haven't shot anybody. I take it.
Your friends who have PTSD, your fellow vets, they haven't
shot anybody. Am I wrong?

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Jeff? And like with everything else, ninety the Left is
wrong on everything Jeff. They're so they act like they're
on their their high horse, Jeff, and they're really on
their my little pony to use finnacular, Jeff, because they
think because they're experts and everything, but they're experts at nothing, Jeff.
And that's the left today. They think cause they get

(22:59):
in Jeff. And I'm not can anybody that goes to college.
I know you are a professor, so I'm not if
I'm getting personal with you. Just because somebody's got a
college degree don't make them an expert in anything, Jeff Dave.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
I know you're a big Steelers fan, right, I mean,
am I wrong because I know you mentioned that in the.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Past, Yeah, one more or lesson I'm more of a
hockey fan, but I follow the Steelers here.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yet, what do you think about football? I mean, I
know where you stand here. With me, it's personal responsibility.
This guy's to blame for what he did. But do
you think that there is a problem with too many
concussions and is this something that we as a country
should now finally face and maybe make changes to the
game so you know people aren't getting brain trauma and CTE.

(23:46):
Is that an issue that you think needs to be
dealt with or do you say, Jeff, I love my football,
like Mike, leave football alone. You don't want to play
with a helmet, go play rugby?

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah yeah, Jeff, I'm kind of like that too. I
played sports in high school. I was a letteran in
a couple of sports. But you know, as far as
the violent and is hockey and football or two of
the most violent sports. But you know what they need
to do, these football players need to be role model,
role models for the or even hockey for that sports, Jeff.

(24:19):
They need to be role models and not want to
kill each other. It's at the end of the day, Jet,
It's it's a sport. It's a kid's game, you know,
I mean, growing ups playing and they're good at it,
and they're professionals, and I don't knock what they obviously
got god given talents, but there's no need to want
to kill each other on the field, you know. And
I'm not saying that the intent that they intentionally do that,
but if it's violent violenced by its nature, you know,

(24:41):
people are going to get the concussions and get hurt
and even die, you know. And what happened to this animal,
Like you said, I want to call him a gentleman.
The guy's an animal what he did, and at the
end of the day, he's fully responsible for what he does.
So just like me with my PTSD, I have to
be responsible for what I dude, because I don't want
to add uskily affect anybody or hurt somebody, and that

(25:03):
just gives more AMO to the left, So it speak
no pun intended.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Amen. Amen, Dave, thank you again for your service and
really God bless you outstanding call. Thank you so much, Dave.
I talk to veterans all the time. They all tell
me so many of them, Jeff, I battle PTSD. I
battle depression along with the PTSD, and you know, and
they're not ashamed, and they shouldn't be ashamed. I take medication.

(25:29):
Of course, you should take medication. PTSD is no joke.
Depression is no joke. So I see a doctor regularly.
I'm monitored, I'm followed. They give me the right dosage,
the right you know, the right medicine, and you know,
and I'm responsible. And I take care of myself and
my spouse if I'm lucky enough to be married, or
my partner watches over me, and you know, and I

(25:51):
also do I take care of myself my health. I
take exercise, healthy eating, and a good perspective on life.
It doesn't justify me going around shooting up an office
building or killing people. And ninety nine point nine nine
nine percent of people who suffer from these air quotes
mental health issues, don't kill anybody, don't do anything to anybody.

(26:15):
So that's why, in the end, I'm sorry, I don't
buy it. And even then, there have been football players
who have had CTE complained about it. It's been a
big problem now. Sadly, they end up killing themselves, you know,
they eat a gun or they commit suicide like I
remember we mentioned Junior Seau, a former New England Patriots
player earlier in the show. They don't go around killing others.

(26:39):
I'm not saying you should kill yourself. What I'm saying
is but they're not going out, you know, massacring people.
If they commit violence, it's against themselves. So I'm sorry,
I don't buy it. I don't buy it at all.
The only one to blame for what happened is that animal,
no one else. Lynn in pepper Ol, thanks for holding Lynn,

(27:03):
and welcome.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Jess.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
Good morning.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
I'm glad you your sister and want to forget who
else it was brought up the issues of other things
going on, because I think this is away from them
to take to make the points. Bring it to football.
I'm an athletic I'm an athletic trainer for a high school. Actually, girls,

(27:35):
soccer is right up there with football for concussions. We
do impact studies before every year and we monitor closely.
As an athletic trainer, if I'm eating suspecting someone hit
in the head, we pull them off the field. We
need to talk about the SSRIs and how every mass

(27:59):
shooter has been on an SSRII this kid had mental
health issues and we need to bring the focus back
to that. This isn't about guns, this isn't about football.
This is about the less probably bringing it back to
let's focus on everything else except how we are drugging

(28:23):
our society.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Lenn Lynn, I promise I'd give you all the time
in the world just for the audience so they understand
exactly where you're coming from. I have made this point
many times in the past, and I'm telling you people
don't believe me. I say, you know that soccer has
almost as many concussions as football, and They're like, come on,
soccer is not a non violent game, and I'm like, no,

(28:48):
I mean, yes, it's not a violent game. But the
way they hit the ball now with so much speed
and power and force, like when they whip it in
on a cross and then someone tries to head the
ball into the net, when it hits the head, it
can hit it at such power and force it rattles
the brain and causes a concussion. Lynn, Am I right

(29:11):
or am I wrong?

Speaker 5 (29:13):
Nope, You're absolutely right. And you know, girls concussions. I
think it's eight out of ten thousand and girls soccer,
and then football is ten out of ten thousand students.
I mean, I'm not trying to be an afayer that
he didn't.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
Maybe he did have a concussion, maybe two.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
But the trainers at this level pull them out, won't
let them continue.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
I mean, this kid played jvs.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Football.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
I'm seriously doubting he had CTE at this you know, at.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
That stage of game.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
Let's focus on that he had some mental health issues.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Now, Lynn, you mentioned SSRIs and I agree with you
on that as well. For the audience out there, what
are SSRIs and why do you believe that every time
there's been a mass shooting, or almost every time there's
been a mass shooting, SSRIs have been involved. Can you
just elaborate a little bit more for the audience, lend postri.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
Eyes are antidepressant medications that if you go to your
doctor nowadays and say, you know, I'm a little down,
blah blah blah, Oh, let's just put you on an SSRI.
Or I'll even go a step further as a woman
past the age of fifty, when I went into my
doctor and said, you know, I can't sleep, I have

(30:40):
muffle ads or whatever I have like hot flashes.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Oh, let's put you on an SSRI. But I'm not depressed.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
They will put I'm telling you right now, high school
students in general, there are way way too many kids
on antidepressants and one of the side effects is suicide
or violence, and it's a big problem. We have a
huge percentage of children on these medications across our country.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Lynn is the reason why the media never touches the
issue of SSRIs, as you very powerfully and simply have
just laid out now because of big pharma. Because so
much advertising money pours into Fox or CNN or MSNBC
or you know the big networks NBC, CBSABC, or just

(31:35):
open up in New York Times or a while Wall
Street Journal, and half the advertise, half the ads in
the paper are nothing but big Pharma ads. Is it
because of the money that Big Pharma pours into the media,
they don't want to touch ssriys? I mean, is that
a major reason why nobody wants to talk about it?

Speaker 5 (31:56):
It's absolutely a major reason. Jack, you hit the nail
on the head. It's what controls our society right now.
Big Pharma is in control. Just look at covid, what
they did with COVID. They are in control, and they
will keep the like. They'll point to all other directions

(32:18):
except the one where they could lose money out of
their pockets.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Interesting. So, Lynn, you're saying, don't blame football. You're saying
football has nothing to do with this.

Speaker 5 (32:30):
Correct, I am saying football has in this case. I
do not think football has anything to do with this.
I think that football. I come from a football family,
so I'm a little biased. I had all my relatives
played college football. It adds so much to a person's life.

(32:54):
And it's not just a game of violence and hitting.
It's a game of tactic it's knowing what your job
is doing it correctly. Most guys aren't out there trying
to kill the other guys. Most of them are friends
and friendly to each other. It's knowing your job, being
part of a team. And again I think in this

(33:16):
case in particular, and I'm not saying CT does not exist,
but this has been exaggerated and blown up to the
football problems.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Lynn, thank you very much for that call, really really
good and informative call. Thank you again, Lynn. Tony in
the Freedom State, Florida. Huh, what I tell you, our
best audience in the business. You're not going to hear
this from the fake news media, I guarantee you. Tony

(33:48):
in Florida. Thanks for holding Tony, and welcome.

Speaker 6 (33:52):
Good morning, Jeff, my fellow patriot. This is really, really,
what a horrible tragedy. Certainly condolences out to the victims
of this horrible shooting in New York City. Really just
so heart breaking, Jeff. But yeah, I really don't. Well,
here's the thing. I mean, so this guy here, you know,

(34:14):
to go all the way across the country, I mean,
I mean, yeah, he had some mental issues obviously, but
to be able to be that aware to drive all
the way across the country like that. I mean he
must have been with it somewhat. But anyway, so now
they want to turn and they want to talk about
the NFL, the ct and everything like that. But I

(34:36):
would say, jeffs as a longtime fan of the game,
they've come a long way with you know, with the
concussions and everything, and I think they've done a really
good job with the concussion protocols. I think all sports
are doing that now. On the NFL probably has the
most history of concussions, I mean, you know, going back
to the older days of the NFL and the seventies, eighties, nineties.

(34:58):
But then this I don't know if you saw this
movie or any of your of your listeners, but twenty
fifteen Will Smith played a pathologist, Bennett o'malu, and he
they discovered the CTE and it really brought the awareness
to it. And now you're seeing less and less of this,

(35:18):
you know. But the players that played in that older era,
as you said, you know, Junior say ow you can
talk about Dave Dowerson who was a Super Bowl champion
with the Chicago Bears, and Mike Webster probably the greatest
center to ever play the game, the center for the
Steelers for many years and the four Super Bowls. But
those players also suffer from that, and then you know,

(35:41):
committed suicide and everything. You never really heard of those folks, Uh,
those players, you know, going out, you know, doing shootings
like this nature. But so but anyway, I just think
the awareness is really good now, Jeff, with the with
the concussions, they've done a really good job. It's it's
really it's been a real eye opener in that movie

(36:03):
in twenty fifteen. I would definitely recommend it to anybody.
It was amazing.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Well Tony, it's funny you should mention that because even Mike,
not now, but maybe an hour ago during the break,
said to me, Jeff, that Will Smith movie in twenty fifteen,
which you're talking about, raised such awareness. It was like
a cultural watershed. And he said, Jeff, I'm telling you
for the last decade ever since that movie came out.

(36:29):
In fact, as Mike said to me, goes, football used
to be more violent. It was, Jeff, I'm telling you,
early to amid two thousands, it was much more violent.
You had many more head injuries, many more concussions, many
more players suffering from you know repeated brain injury or
brain trauma or CTE