Should Judges be Held to a Higher Standard?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, just very quickly, two quick points, and I promise
I want to go right back to the phone lines.
If you notice they're all sounding the same again, it's
the same phrases, the same words, the same lines, the
same script. Whether it's Chuck Schumer, it's John Osoff who's
running for reelection in Georgia in the US Senate, so

(00:24):
they got him going. But it really it doesn't matter.
It's AOC. Just the whole talkies over the weekend, Bernie
Tammy Baldwin right across the board, Nancy Pelosi, Hakeem, Jeffries,
and of course CNN, MSNBC and the entire fake news
corporate media. And so this is from six to oh three.

(00:50):
You can text the cooner man seven zero four seven
zero seven zero four seven zero Jeff Does the dn
SEE send out talking points to all of their sick ephants?
Is that where this comes from? Now the term is
and it's true, it's this is the term now they

(01:11):
use is quote unquote major escalation. That this arrest of
Dugan and of Eric Kanouge, the two CORP judges, that
this is now a quote unquote major escalation, by the way,
constitutional crisis is the other phrase both and as the

(01:32):
person points out, this is the propaganda, the propaganda that
the Smith Month Act would stop had Obama not repealed it.
But it's the same script. I mean, it's unbelievable how
it's the same script, and pr PBS, all of the news,

(01:54):
whether it be CBS, ABC, NBC, it's it's just it's
it's it's unbelievab So it's obvious the DNC is feeding
them the exact lines they're supposed to mouth and parrot. Okay,
Newsmax as well as One America's an forgive Me One

(02:18):
American News. Both of them are now reporting that immigration
judges like the ones that have been arrested, especially the
one in New Mexico, Judge Cano, have now it's clear
they have been directly tied to the cartels, the Mexican
cartels to trender Aragua and MS thirteen and that quote

(02:43):
unquote foreign entities are paying these judges. Remember I said
this was like five minutes ago, I said, follow the money.
Well almost on que. Now you've got a media outlets
report there's money flowing into the bank accounts and into

(03:04):
the pockets of many of these corrupt judges, and apparently
now there's gonna be many more. This is just the
tip of the iceberg. And so maybe the fact that
all these judges are getting all hot and bothered and
championing the causes of these MS thirteen gang bangers who

(03:25):
Trump is desperately trying to deport out of our country,
maybe it's not just all them wanting to undermine Trump
and Sabotage's presidency. It's that, of course, but there's a
little bit of green involved as well. Little money, a
little bit of money flowing around, just as the Italian

(03:45):
mob says, just enough to wet my beak. I don't
want your whole operation. Just give me a taste, Just
give me a little something. Okay. Six one seven two six,
six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay. Uh.
Democrat Senator John Osoff, on a campaign trail yesterday, said

(04:10):
the quiet part out loud. He said, Look, I've spoken
to Schumer, I've spoken to the Democrat leadership in both
the House and in the Senate. If we win back
the majority in the midterms, we guarantee it. We will
impeach Trump for what We'll make it up, but we're

(04:32):
going to impeach Trump. Elect us. We impeach six one
seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight Jeff in Chelsea.
Thanks for holding, Jeff, and welcome.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Thank you, Jeff. As far as that judge is concerned,
I'm glad you get arrested by to dropping the bucket.
You see. The foundation is our education system. Where did
this judge get educated? You see? The left wing educational
system is producing these judges. The problem is parents, the

(05:09):
normies have to take their kids out of the public
school system and have them school privately if possible, and
don't send your kids off the college unless it's for education, mathematics,
things that are non political. The problem is, Jef, your
audience already knows this. You have the smartest audience in

(05:29):
the business. The problem is is the majority of normies
who don't listen to your show in the suburbs. They're
the ones that are croaking us. You see, because the
communists already have Massachusetts in these blue areas. Because the
normies send their kids off to these left wing public
schools and left wing colleges, they're getting educated by the communists.

(05:51):
Has been that way for decades. That is the problem.
If you don't reform the education system, we are done.
People don't have time to homeschool their kids. They're working
two or three jobs because the communists have infiltrated our
government since the fifties. Joseph McCarthy talked about this. He
was vindicated in the Verona Papers. So if you don't

(06:14):
reform the education system, this is an exercising futility. Troup
will have four years trying to reform the system. Shine
a turd, And for the most part, we are done
as a country, except for the Red States.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
What do you think, Jeff, Look, I agree with you.
I think there's no question, and I think the left's
assault on our children, their attempt to brainwash and indoctrinate
our children, which is where the battle is really being fought,
is only intensifying. Rather than slowing down, they're speeding up.

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And they understand that whoever can capture you know, as
the Jesuits famously said, it's one of my favorite signs,
because it's true. The Jesuits said, for hundreds and hundreds
of years, give us your child until they're twelve, and
they are ours for life. In other words, if you
can mold them in those seminal early years of development,
I mean, they're not going to toll the line one

(07:09):
hundred percent. But for the most part, you essentially determine
how they think, their values, their world outlook, their ideology.
You can turn them into the kind of person you
want them to be. And that's what the left cont
you know, to give the devil his due, that's what
the left has understood in a way that we conservatives

(07:31):
have never understood. And so and now you're seeing the
really the fruits of this. These aren't judges, really, these
are not Judge Dugan is not a judge. Six one
seven two sex six sixty eight, sixty eight is the number. Okay,
let me ask you, because this is a fascinating angle

(07:52):
that I want to ask all of you, the great
callers of Kuner Country and obviously the great listeners of
Kuner Country, and really it's Sandy. Sandy was the one
who came up with this. Full credit to her and
Mike as well. Should judges be held even to a
higher standard? If you notice what the Democrats incredibly are
now arguing is that there's no standard. That they're literally

(08:17):
they're above the law, that you just simply cannot arrest them. Period.
It doesn't matter what they do, how outrageous their behavior,
how awful or illegal or criminal their conduct, is that
if you arrest the judge, then all of a sudden,
you're a dictator. Okay, this is now the new line

(08:37):
of attack. To me, It's always been the exact opposite.
Judges because they wear the robe, because in some ways
they exemplify the law, because they've been placed in this
sacred trust of being behind the bench and adjudicating what

(08:58):
is legal and illegal, what constitutional, unconstitutional, what is right
and wrong? To me, have a special obligation, a special
burden to be above reproach that they should have and
and and they should conduct themselves, and they should have

(09:20):
the highest standards imaginable. And if they do fall, or
if they do commit crimes, if they do violate their oath, honestly,
I believe they should get even stiffer penalties. I mean,
I'm just being honest with you. Not just impeached and

(09:41):
and removed and you know, disrobed and they lose their
pension and their benefits. No, I think they should get
the maximum penalty, whatever the maximum penalty is. Because they
above all know the law, and they know the consequences
of breaking the law. They can't claim ignorance. They can't

(10:06):
claim they fully didn't quite understand the consequences of their actions. No,
if anyone knows the consequences of what they're doing, it's
a judge. And so let me throw this log on
the fire. It's the Cooner country Pole Question of the
Day du jour, sponsored by Marios Marios Quality Roofing, siding

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and Windows. Should judges get a more severe penalty than
non judges if they happen to break the law? Should
judges be given even a harsher or more severe penalty

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than non judges if they happen to break or violate
the law? A? Yes, B no? You know where I stand.
I'm a yes, I'm an A. But that's me. I
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K u h n is in national Er. I want
to read something from Caitlin that she sent me on messenger,
and then I'm going to go right back to the
phone lines. And and this is I think she's dead on.
I think she's absolutely dead on, Jeff. Even if these

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judges were harboring American criminals, they'd still be arrested, and
they should be arrested. A crime is a crime, is
a crime, is a crime, Caitlin. Don't get me wrong.
I only have eyes for my wife, But I love

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you in a non sexual way, my friend. Yes, yes,
say this wasn't Judge Dugan, say this wasn't an illegal? Okay,
for whatever reason, it's not an illegal from Mexico who's
been deported multiple times and he illegally re entered our country,

(12:42):
which is felony upon felony. Okay, you're standing there. It's
a domestic abuser, a lifelong criminal wife beater who likes
to suffocate, strangulate, and beat the living daylights out of
his girlfriends and committed multiple crimes. And the police are waiting,

(13:05):
or the FBI or the DA maybe for drug trafficking.
They're waiting in the hallway to arrest this guy on
other charges. And if she did the exact same thing
what she did, you know, just last week and said no, no, no, no,
no no, where's the warrant? Where's the warr Well, here's

(13:26):
the warrant. Okay, go to the chief judge. Yeah, down
the hall, tell the laft and all of you go.
He's got to sign off on this. Go go. And
then she runs back into the courtroom. All right, you know,
like you know, like really like rampaging. You know, you
can hear like the steps, the whole building is shaking. Okay,
she's like the female version of the incredible Hult. And

(13:48):
there she is, and she grabs the defendant and his
sleazy lawyer and says, through the through the back door,
go go go, go, go, go go go. Does anybody
seriously think this judge should not be arrested on what planet?

(14:15):
Now there's one more line of attack. Okay, one more
line of attack, very quick. There have been several deportations.
Now watch for this because the media now it's Monday
morning and they need more material. So what they're trying
to do now is claim that Trump has deported a

(14:36):
two year old baby. This is it's coming.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Now.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
The propaganda's you know, get ready for the propaganda. So
now they're gonna say it's already starting. He's deporting toyo
old babies. For God's sake. Demand's a monster. I bet
he eats some at night. He's a monster.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Her.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
No, he deported. In fact, there wasn't one. It was
several illegal aliens, or to be more exact, there was
borders are Tom Holman and Ice deported several illegal alien mothers.
They were here illegally, and they were then given the option.

(15:20):
The children anchor babies are technically now American citizens. They
don't have to go. They can stay. We can put
them with other family members, or we can put them
in the foster care system and they'll be adopted. The
mothers chose to take their babies with them. The mothers

(15:42):
chose to take their babies with them, So nobody deported
or Trump did not deport a two year old baby.
That's another lie and another media hoax. This is from
say again. You can text the cooner man seven zero

(16:03):
four seven zero seven zero four seven zero, Jeff, you
are completely right. No, Trump didn't deport a two year
old citizen. He deported her mother, an illegal alien who
has full custody of her minor child. And no, Trump

(16:25):
is not arresting judges. He doesn't agree with the DOJ
is arresting judges who break federal immigration laws and try
to help fugitives escape being detained by ICE. It is

(16:47):
a deliberate disinformation misinformation campaign. Okay, text line is on
fire today. It is burning up. Uh. This is from
five to one two by the where you can text
as seven zero four seven zero Jeff, And he said, doozy,
listen to this one, Jeff. The cartels use bribery, blackmail, threats, coercion, kidnapping,

(17:14):
and murder as standard operating procedure in Latin America, and
it has worked quite effectively. Why wouldn't the same standard
operating procedure be in effect here in the United States.
I would maintain that it is. Well, we're starting to
see it now with these judges. I don't know if

(17:37):
they're being intimidated. I don't know if they're being blackmailed,
but it's pretty obvious now they're taking money, they're being bribed,
they're being bribed to protect them trender Aragua MS thirteen.
These vicious, violent, transnational criminal gangs, and they're being paid
to look the other way. Six one seven two six

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six sixty eight six eight. Okay, this is from six
to three and really a very very ingenious play on
words and completely right, completely right, Jeff. Yes, this is
an assault on the judiciary because this judge is a

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Democrat activist. Yes, this is a constitutional crisis because this
judge is a Democrat activist. Yes, Judge Dugan is above
the law because this judge is a Democrat activist. Yes, Jeff,

(18:45):
the sky is falling because this judge is a Democrat activist.
We cannot have this judge made an example of because
this judge is a Democrat activist. Bingo. You see, that's

(19:07):
their modus operendi, their mo that's their system. They have
politicized and corrupted the judiciary. That's why they're freaking out
over these arrests. These aren't judges, their hacks. They're Democrat activists.
And the more the public sees it, the more the

(19:30):
public realizes it, the more the public wakes up to it.
The Democrats are finished and that's why they're in a
full blown panic. These activists don't care for the Constitution,
they don't care for the rule of law, they don't
care about upholding their oath. Yeah, they think they're above

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the law. They want to be above the law. That's
the way the whole scam works. No, No, it's a judge.
You can't stand up to a judge. You can't defy
a judge. You can't challenge a judge. As Schumer said,
that's the final word. How dare you You don't defy

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a judge. It's almost like they're omnipotent. They're all powerful.
We put them in a black robe and they become
many kings and dictators. No, and that's why they're in
a for them, the sky is falling because you arrest

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is democrat active as judge and lay out exactly to
the American people what she's doing and what she did.
The American people are gonna say, we've got a corrupt judiciary.
It's now become an extension of the deep state, and
we've got to clean it out. We've got a purge

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it root and branch, agree, disagree. Six one seven two
six six sixty eight sixty eight. John in Plymouth, Thanks
for holding John, and welcome.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
Thank you for taking my call, Jeff.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
My pleasure. John.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Have you given any thought. I think this is why
the Democrats are willing to die on this hill with
the illegals have you given any thought as to the
similarities between the illegals and the slaves.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
I think about that all the time.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
They tell us.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
It will destroy our economy if we get them out
of here. Who's gonna pick our cotton, Who's gonna pick
our strawberries? You know, there's so many they were willing. Well,
they did assassinate Abraham Lincoln. Both sides. The Democrats really

(22:12):
hated They hated Abraham Lincoln, and the Republicans there was
a lot of them that didn't like him because he
wouldn't do a lot of the things that they wanted.
And I think that's where we find ourselves with Trump.

(22:34):
There's rhinos that Trump won't do the things that they
want him to do, and the Democrats really hate him,
and they've been willing. And over fifty five percent of
Democrats that were pulled are okay with the idea of
Trump being assassinated. There's so many similarities between the two.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Well, and I think, look, and I think this is
where you're going with this, John, And it's a scary thought,
but I think we have to confront it because I
think it's a reality. It's still germinating, it's not fully
developed yet. I hope we nip it in the bud.
But this is where the Democrats are going. They created

(23:25):
a constitutional crisis in the eighteen fifties over the issue
of slavery. It was the Democrats, and you're right, they
are looking at illegals very similar to the way they
looked at slavery, that they're theirs, and that you can't
touch it, and you can't get rid of it, you
can't expunge it, you can't kill it, you can't abolish it.

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They are willing to die on this hill and it
led to a civil war. They were willing to pick
up a gun in order to defend slavery. That's what
you're seeing now. And just like in the eighteen fifties,
you kept seeing this massive resistance and resistance and build
up and build up and build up, and they destroyed

(24:12):
every institution. Eventually it led to an actual war. Now.
I hope it doesn't happen. I pray it doesn't happen.
I don't want it to happen. But the fact of
the matter is, look at them. They are willing to destroy,
burn the country down, destroy every institution, including the judicial branch,

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including the Supreme Court. They'll destroy everything. But these illegals
must not go. They must not go, so they can
bring them in illegally, they can flood the country with
them illegally. There was no due process given to us,

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the American citizen and the American people when Joe Biden
flooded the country with MS thirteen criminals, Trenderaragua, terrorists, drug traffickers,
you name it, okay, murderers, literally, murderers and rapists. No, no,
that's okay. But suddenly now they're giving them all kinds

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of rights that have never been given to them in
our nation's history, and no other country in the world
gives them. They are willing to tear this country apart.
And you know this is not original. I said it
on my ex account last night, but it's been floating
around social media. It's anonymous. I don't know who wrote

(25:41):
it initially, but it's brilliant. Notice. Notice not a single
Democrat went to Gaza to protest or speak with American
hostages being held there, not one, literally, not one. But

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when it comes to an MS thirteen gang banger, this
guy Abrago Garcia, a human trafficker, an illegal alien, a
wife beater, for God's sake, it's like a pilgrimage to
this guy. It's not just Van Holland, it's Democrat after
Democrat after Democrat after democrat. I have never seen Democrats

(26:27):
defend Americans held hostage, not just in Gaza, anywhere in
the world. The way they're fighting and clinging and fighting
tooth and nail for these gang bangers being held now
in El Salvador. Now that tells you everything you need
to know. This is their power, this is these are

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their people, these are their voters, and they're not going
to get rid of them. They are willing to burn
this country to the ground if need be, but they
are not going to have them deported. So either we
have a country or we don't. Either we have laws

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that we abide by or we don't. Either we have
borders or we don't. And what they're telling us John
is we don't. And that's I don't see that. You
can't square that circle. And that's why I'm urging Kooner Country,

(27:29):
and I'm urging the President and his team because I
know they listen to the show. You've got to take
the gloves off. The old rules don't apply because the
Democrats are not playing by the old rules. So the
old rules are out the window. This is now, and
I'm choosing my words very carefully. This is a political,

(27:52):
ideological cultural war. It's a political war now. Whether you
like it or not, it doesn't matter. The Democrats are
waging it. The only question now is are we going
to fight back? Because if we don't, we're gonna lose.

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If we do, we're gonna win. But you have to
fight and to fight effectively, take the gloves off. And
that's why I think now Trump needs to address the
country and say, hey, look, i'm hearing other judges want
to join Judge Dugan, that's fine, We'll arrest your ass

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do And we're not arresting you because you disagree with us.
We're arresting you because you're violating your oath and you're
breaking the damn law. And I don't care if I
got to put twenty of you or forty of you,
or one hundred of you or two hundred of you

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behind bars. People voted for me to conduct mass deportations
and reverse Biden's border invasion, and my god, I'm gonna
do it now. Bush was able to do it, Obama
was able to do it. Clinton was able to do it.

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Reagan was able to do it. How come everybody else
can engage in non judicial mass deportations but I can't
because you want to slow me down, undermine me, sabotage me,
block me. No, it's not gonna work. These are no
longer judges. They're activists. They are radical left wing activist hacks,

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and I'm gonna clean them out. You break the law,
you're going to jail. I don't care if you've got
a judge next to your title or not. No one
is above the law. Trump's gotta make that crystal clear.
Crystal clear. So I'm with them all the way, John,
But I'm with you this illegals now very similar now

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to the slavery issue. Remember the Democrats plunged us into
one civil war. Don't be surprised if they try to
plunge us into a second, because that's just how they roll.
Thank you for that call, John, six one seven, to say,
now they get their asses kicked, you want to know
the truth, just like they got their asses kicked the

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first time. But I'm just telling you that's how stupid,
that's how unhinged they are. You know, you can't defend
the indefensible, and they're trying now to defend the indefensible.
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight agree, disagree.

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Jim in Rochester, Thanks for holding Jim, and welcome.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Jeff, judge. So I am a as far as your
question as the judges being held to a higher standard,
of course they should. I'm a commercial truck driver. Anybody
that possesses a cd A license, not only are you

(31:19):
drug tested, you are your blood alcohol level. You're only
allowed half of what a regular driver's license holder is allowed.
I think it's point oh four is the CDL. Point
eight is the you know, a regular driver's license. We

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have to check our trucks every day. We have to
do a circle check, safety check, because we're subjected to
being pulled into waystations and having our trucks gone through
because we're supposed to be safe, and it's a good thing,
it's not a bad thing. But we're held to a
higher standard that we have to live by. And these judges,

(32:05):
of course they should be helped. They're they're protecting law,
protecting citizens. Their job is as important as anybody on
the face of the earth.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Oh I agree, I mean I could not agree with
you more, Jim, I completely agree with you. And look,
let me just ask you know the audience this and
you're dead on, Jim. When a police officer breaks the law,
when a police officer engages in illegal, unethical conduct, they
hammer him. I mean, they throw the book at the guy.

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I mean, they put his face or her face on
the TV news. They turn it into a cause celeb
there are protests, demonstrations, They practically tar and feather the person,
and there's a huge media firestorm. And I mean they
don't just throw the maximum penalty. They they they they,

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I mean they humiliate that person. So why is it
different with judges? I just this idea now, And by
the way, for Schumer, of all people to say you
should just automatically believe any judge and bow down to
any judge, those are his words. That a judge is

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the judge is nonpartisan, The judge should be independent from
any criticism. Never mind you know, an arrest or people
calling for their removal. This this from the guy who
on tape at the steps of the Supreme Court, for

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God's sake, physically threatened to murder Robertson Kavanaugh if they
voted to overturn Roe v. Wade. This the guy who
led a mob, and we're coming for you in your homes,
in your office, wherever you are. We're gonna come after you. You're

(34:06):
gonna reap the whirlwind, that thug. And now he's gonna
stand there and say, oh no, hey, you have to
bend the knee. When it comes to a judge, it's final.
You have to respect the judge. If you don't respect
the judges decision, dictatorship, your phony, you fraud you. So no, look, Jim,

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they don't have a leg to stand on and they
know it. And if Trump is gonna save our country,
he's got to keep arresting these rogue activist judges when
they keep breaking the law, and he's got to tell
him to go fly a kite. There's just no other way. Now, quickly,
I want to add this because you're not gonna believe me.

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You're gonna say, come on, Jeff, come on, no, this
is what I mean. This is the hill they're willing
to die on. So you would think again, if I
was the sane, normal person, yeah, maybe I shouldn't be
harboring illegal aliens. You know, criminal illegals who beat their wives.

(35:14):
Maybe I shouldn't, you know, if they got a warrant
for his arrest and he's a felon who's come back
into the country multiple times. Yeah, maybe I shouldn't try
to sneak him through the back door and have him
evade arrest and capture by ICE. A. It's illegal. B.
We're getting arrested for it now, and we're gonna lose

(35:37):
our judge, ship, our robe, we're gonna be impeached, and
we're gonna go to prison. So maybe we shouldn't do it. No, no, no, no, no,
my friends, So listen now to this. Another Milwaukee County
judge joins the rebellion. They're calling it a rebellion. These

(36:00):
are their words, not mine. They're now saying that they
side with Judge Hannah Dugan and that they are now
vowing to shield illegals from ICE arrests and ICE agents.
So listen now to this. Another Milwaukee judge has now

(36:24):
publicly come out and said I am Judge Hannah Dugan II,
and according to her, this judge, this is in Sawyer County, Wisconsin,
Judge Monica. I think it's pronounced isham anyway, if I
mangled the last name forgive me. It's I sham. Okay, isham. Now,

(36:48):
she released a statement saying that there is a growing
rebellion among radical, far left judges, not just in Wisconsin,
but around the entire country, and that she says, quote
that she has no intention of allowing any illegal aliens
to be taken out of her courtroom, and that in fact,

(37:11):
she is going to protect illegal aliens. She is going
to shield illegal aliens, and she's going to help them
escape and evade capture by ice. In other words, what
Dugan did, I will do, and I will do it proudly.
And she's announcing it ahead of time. Now, very quick,

(37:34):
who is judge Isham. She's been on the bench for
less than two years. She's a DEI judge. She boasts
of being quote unquote, I mean really the first everything,
the first woman, the first Native American, the first minority
to serve as a circuit court judge in Sawyer County.

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Now here is what she wrote. Okay, this is public record. Now,
enough is enough. I have no intention of allowing anyone
to be taken out of my courtroom by ice. And
listen to this, sent to a concentration camp, especially without

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due process, as both of the constitutions we swore to
support requires should I start raising bail money? So basically,
should I start raising bail money for myself? Now? Number one,
if you think these illegals are being sent to a

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quote unquote concentration camp, you are crazy. Okay, you're crazy.
But then she goes on to say she issues a
threat that if the governor and the higher ups in
the court system in Wisconsin