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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number. Okay, I just got another text message
from my wonderful wife, Grace. Elon Musk must shut up.
You're not in charge now, so keep What she said
was Elon Musk, shut up, You're not in charge now.
(00:22):
So she doesn't like it that Elon's talking and that
he's criticizing the bill six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight. Again, last time I checked, it
was a free country. But I don't know. Maybe I
didn't get the memo. Six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight. Okay, do you agree with Elon's
(00:45):
I mean, searing criticism of the bill, calling it a
disgusting abomination. Should he have kept his mouth shut? Should
he have said nothing and do everything he can to
try to get the bill passed? Uh many now accusing
him of sabotaging Trump and sabotaging the bill. I honestly
(01:05):
think he's just speaking from the heart. But that's me.
I want to hear from you. Six one seven two
six x sixty eight sixty eight. Couple of lines are
open if you want to jump on Dennis in Man's field.
Thanks for holding Dennis and welcome, Hey Jeff, ok I
can hear you. Can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
One time to talk to a couple of years anyway,
go ahead, one thing before I get that's so sorry,
A bunch of dad.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
And thank you, Thank you very much, Dennis.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I have a good kind of a difference. You know
what these two guys must elon Musk great patriots Trump.
I mean, I think I think it's more I think
whether they get the whether they and here's my take
on it. What I've been hearing is that they're gonna
(02:03):
if they get the the the bill, pass right bill, gonna,
I think they'll bank up the country.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Want Dennis, we're getting a very bad connection. We can't
hear you. Let's see if we can try to reconnect
with you. Just hang on, okay, Dennis Vincent in Marlborough.
Thanks for holding Vincent and welcome, Hello Vincent. Okay, let's
(02:39):
see if we can Phil in the great state of Missouri.
Thanks for holding pail and welcome.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Hey Jeff, thanks for taking my call. My pleasure, our starters, Hey, Grace,
we are in charge. Musk is in charge. You are
in charge. It's our money. These people work for us. Okay,
don't don't ever forget that. And you know, Jeff one
thing too. If I were a young person, why would
I ever vote for anything ever? Again, if you're under
the age of thirty, I mean, this thing is gonna
(03:09):
this bill is going to cripple any future generations with
debt and taxes. And you know what's in there for
the younger person? Is there anything for you know, first
time home buyers, married couples, trying to start a family.
Anything about student loan debt? We found out that's a
big deal. I mean, maybe we should do something for
(03:30):
you know, the younger people coming up.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Well, that's just my thought.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
On I'll fill you're on fire, and I promise I'll
let you finish everything you want to say. No, that
Doge exposed this was These were Elon's people. It wasn't
Elon himself, but his people. Don't know if you saw
this scandal, this was I believe yesterday or the day before.
Don't quote me, Phil, but last twenty four to forty
eight hours, millions and millions of dollars in student loans
(04:00):
aid to dead people, I swear to you. So they
weren't just giving Social Security checks to dead people. They
weren't just giving medicaid to dead people. Now we find
out they're literally giving student loans and student aid your money,
my money, Phil, to dead people, I e. Probably illegal aliens, fraudsters, scammers.
(04:27):
So that's what that's what we're getting with our government.
And I think, to be fair, that's where Elon's coming from.
He's like, I'm uncovering all of this fraud, and I'm
trying to save money to save the country so we
don't go broke, literally go caput, go bankrupt. And you
guys are going to rack up the national credit card
(04:47):
by another five trillion dollars, You're gonna lift the death
ceiling by another five trill trillion with a budget deficit
this year, and this bill of two point five trillion,
which is five hundred billion more than Biden like, and
so what I broke my rear end for?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
What?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Really? I broke my back for what my team? What
was all this for? And so I think Elon's looking
at this and saying this is just not sustainable. And
you're right, Phil, He's this to me, this kind of
out of control spending, reckless spending. You're selling our young
(05:28):
people out. I mean you're selling them down the river,
and I think you put your finger right on it.
If you're thirty and under, why would you vote for
either party ever? Again? I mean, all they're doing now
is screwing you and screwing you and then screwing you again. Phil,
(05:48):
please continue.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
All right, Jeff?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Thanks? And you know, well, one thing they said is
no tax on tips. Okay, great, So my future is
service industry jobs. They're gonna have to work more than
forty hours so we can keep businesses open to let
this economy grow. Great. I get no tax on my tips,
but I get taxed on my time because now I
got to work over forty hours just to make ends
(06:13):
meet in this country because it's too expensive as it is.
You know nothing about growing the family, nothing about you know,
maybe having enough money or tax credits where maybe one
parent could stay home and help raise a child. And
you know nothing about say, I heard nothing about you know,
school choice vouchers anything like that. I know they mentioned
(06:34):
something about, you know, first, if you have a baby,
maybe giving a ten thousand dollars credit or something towards
car seats and diapers and things that are just you know,
outrageously expensive for a young couple. But if I were
under thirty, or say you're eighteen years old, would you
want your son or daughter to fight for this country?
And what do they inherit? Okay, you win the war,
(06:54):
you save the country. Now what you got crippling debt?
Long hours of work to pay off? You know whatever
the boomers and Gen X and everybody else added to
this debt. They got to fix this now. And Elon
is has been one hundred percent right since he started,
and Trump has been too. But I tell you on
this thing, they got to fix this before they go forward.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Phil my position, I'm with you, Phil, as I like
to say, I agree with you, not one hundred one
thousand percent. Please, I'm begging them fix it now. Cut
the spending. Six one seven two six x sixty eight
sixty eight is the number. Okay, it's the big beautiful
blow up. Elon comes out against the bill. Rand Paul
(07:39):
says it's unsustainable. He's got three other Republicans with him
in the Senate. Remember they only have it's fifty three
forty seven, so if four are dead set against the bill,
it's not going to pass. Rand Paul, Senator Mike Lee,
Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, Senator Rick Scott, all four
(08:00):
of them now say it adds way too much to
the national debt, is out of control, budget deficits, and
outrageous spending. They say they will not support it in
current form under no circumstances. So my question to you,
should they cut the spending? Is it time to fix it?
(08:21):
Or should Trump dig in his heels and try to
ram it through the Senate and get the bill passed.
Where do you stand? Stix one seven two six x
sixty eight sixty eight lines are jammed, Bob, Bobby in Saugus.
Thanks for holding, Bobby, and welcome.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yes, hey, Jeff, thanks for all you do.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Oh my pleasure. Thank you, Bobby.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
You've been a blessing so many of us. Thank you
very much. But I have one question. If the bill passes,
where do you get the five trillion from the Easter
Bunny Santa Claus? Where does that money come from.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
We're gonna have to borrow, we're gonna we're raising the
national debt limit and we're gonna borrow, and we're gonna
print money, and we're gonna add to the national debt.
And my fear, Bobby, is it's going to lead to
a lot of inflation. Like Biden, we're spending money. I mean,
(09:24):
it's out of control. But you know where do we
get the money from. We borrow, and the more we borrow,
the higher we have to pay the interest on the debt.
And we're already paying a trillion dollars a year just
an interest, just the interest. That's why Elon is saying
his words, not mine, We're now this is a ticking
(09:45):
debt bomb. And he said with this bill, he fears
it's gonna detonate in a couple of years. And that's
why he called it a disgusting abomination. Now, it's not
the Trump promises. He loves the promises. He loves much
of the bill. The stuff that Trump wants, he says,
is great. It's the spending side. And this is where
(10:10):
this is Thune, this is Mike Johnson. This is the
leadership where they just basically went to every member of
Congress and said, okay, for you to support it, what
do you want? And it's it's it's every special interest.
It's loaded with pork. I mean, Bobby there there, I'm
telling I've never seen a bill spend as much money
(10:31):
as this they're talking airports, roads, highways, bridges. I mean,
everybody's getting paid green energy subsidies, the Green New Deal,
every just you go right, It does it. Whatever is
in your district, whatever your lobbyist wants, whatever your donor wants.
(10:53):
This bill gives it to you, good and hard. And
that's why it's got such an astronomic price tag. But please, Bobby,
final word to you, my friend.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Yeah, it puts us in a debt bible. I'm not
the brightest guy in the world, but I know a
little bit about arithmetic, and you can't spend more than
your make forever. It's going to blow up.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
That's my fear. I mean, we're already we're I mean, look,
just to show you how bad it is, we spend
more on interest on the debt than we do on
the entire military of the United States, than we do
on Social Security. Then we do on Medicare, then we
(11:44):
do on Medicaid, then we do on welfare. Then it's
the number one thing now that we pay for. Now,
there's going to be a point and we're coming. We're
really it's there. Well, we're going to be spending so
much just to finance the debt interest. We're gonna say,
I'm sorry, we can't. We can't. No, you want that
missile system, we can't get it. You want to build
(12:07):
more navy ships, We can't. No, I'm sorry, we can't.
We can't give you that social security check. No, we're
gonna have to raise the retirement age. In other words,
it's gonna start very soon. We're gonna it's gonna crack
with the budgetary term. Is it crowds out other items?
Quote unquote. What that means is, no, we don't have
(12:29):
money for hospitals. No, there's no money for roads. See,
and this is my fear. This is Argentina, this is
third world countries where the debt is so big that
they have no money left for anything else. And then
you see, Bobby, this is the death spiral. To finance
(12:50):
the debt, you have to print money. Well, what happens
when you print money. It leads to massive inflation and
nothing destroys the middle class. We saw under Biden that
when prices just keep going up and up and up,
because your dollar is worthless because they just keep printing it.
So that's why, look, I commend Elon, he's telling Trump
(13:14):
what he honestly believes, and he's not saying no tax
on tips, He's for it. No tax on overtime, don't
extend the tax cuts, don't secure the border, don't mastery
port illegals. Don't build that beautiful golden dome missile defense shield.
He says. All this is wonderful, he goes, but you
(13:34):
gotta tackle the spending, and instead these guys ran wild,
and Elon says, it's too much, like I goes, I
run companies. I'm telling you, if I ran, as he
put it, if I ran my company the way they're
running this government, we'd be broke. We'd be bankrupt, We'd
be broke, everybody would be laid off, and I'd be
(13:55):
penniless and out on the street. And he doesn't want
to see that happen to the United States of America.
And Bobby I agree with him. It would break my
heart if this debt would break our back. And look, Bobby,
these are numbers, and it's hard to emotionally relate to numbers.
(14:18):
But you go from thirty seven trillion that's the debt
now to a forty five trillion. It's too much. I mean,
it's just it's too much, you know, It's like you
living in a house and you've got a million dollar
mortgage on it. You're like, it's a big mortgage. But okay,
(14:39):
I'm bringing in five six, seven hundred thousand dollars a
year so I can pay my car and we still
live well and I can still pay off this mortgage.
But then you add another two to three million to
the mortgage. Suddenly the mortgage is no longer one, it's
three four million. He can't it. It's too much. Even
(15:03):
if you bring in more revenue, it's still too much.
And that's what Elon is saying. It's too much debt.
It's too much, and he says he believes it's gonna
crush us. And that's my fear. That's why I'm saying,
if you could, if Trump could talk to these people
and say, look, you got to cut some of the spending.
(15:25):
This is no, no, you're not. Don't raise the national
debt limit the five trillion dollars. You guys are crazy,
like something has to give. Bobby, what say you cashay?
Speaker 4 (15:39):
The bad drop to all this is the world is
d dollarizing and the last Treasury auction we have was dismal,
So we can't even sell out debt. It's difficult to
sell out debt, I should say, and it's going to
get worse.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Oh you nailed it. I mean it's someone's almost like Elon, Seriously,
that's what he's saying. He goes, and the problem is
if people don't buy our debt, then what happens. We're done,
We're finished, Like do you understand that's a that's a default.
That's and countries have defaulted. So he's saying, you're carrying
so much debt it's too dangerous. And that's why I
(16:20):
don't want to get into the you know, I don't
want to sound like an economics one on one here,
but it's going to break the bond market. That's what
it means. Like you can't sell your debt, nobody wants
to buy government bonds. Well, if you can't sell your debt,
nobody's buying government bonds, it's over. Like so Elon is saying,
we're carrying too much debt now with this bill, it's
(16:43):
going to be too much. Six one seven, Thank you, Bobby,
really good call six one seven two six six sixty
eight sixty eight. That's why Look they're still time. These
are the same people that told Trump in his first
term that five billion with a B was just too
much money. This was gonna break the bank. Five billion
(17:07):
for the wall, five billion for the wall. Whoa, hey, no,
no way, come on, you're gonna bankrupt us. What are
you talking about now? Five trillion dollars to the national debt?
No problem? No, what's the hey? Trillion here? Trillion there?
(17:27):
What's the difference? A ya yai nine fifty on the
Great WRKO Jeff Cooner Boston's bulldozer six one seven two
six six sixty eight sixty eight. Okay. A couple of
you have also made this point as well, and I
think it's genius, absolute genius. Again, best audience in the business, Jeff.
(17:50):
Imagine you run a company, hey, a corporation. Revenue which
is this is how much the federal government takes in
and tax revenue every since year. Revenue is five trillion dollars,
five trillion. Every customer of your so called corporation is
(18:13):
every person in the United States who's an adult, and
you're still losing two trillion dollars a year. I mean
every right, no matter what, everybody is forced to buy
this product or whatever to pay this corporation. Why, because
(18:34):
you go to jail, right, you go to you don't
pay your taxes, you go to prison. So imagine a
corporation where you're bringing in five trillion a year in revenue,
five trillion with a T and everybody is your customer
and they have to buy what you're selling, and you're
still losing money hand over fist two trillion. That's how
(18:58):
badly our political class, the swamp, the establishment, our politicians,
that's how badly they have mismanaged our country. In Japan,
they'd be committing herry Cari like this, jump out of
a window, you know, like that. I've shamed myself, my country,
(19:20):
my family, Hella, and they just jump out here. They
they did. They get rich, they become lobbyist and get
even richer. Troy and Peabaty, thanks for holding Troy, and welcome.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
I appreciate that. First time caller. Welcome, true, Thank you
very much. So I have been told that if we
don't want to spend money, why don't we take it
a step further and try to create some revenue. We
have plenty and plenty of illegals here that actually work,
are better people than a lot of US citizens that
(19:55):
would just love to pay taxes, you know, instead of
focusing on masterp nation, how about some naturalization. At the
same time, get their tax money. They're not all bad people.
If anybody's ever been hungry or needed something, they've gone
and they've gotten a lot of these people wanted to
feed their family. There's an imaginary line. There's no border,
(20:18):
right because having a border back then was racist allegedly,
So they crossed it to feed their family. And that's
what they're doing for the most part, you know, and
they would love to pay taxes.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Also.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
I looked up to what the spending is and the
lot of the big spending is national security. Kind of
need it. We need a wall, we need these things.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
We need border patrol.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
I'm sure Musk can cut it in half. But nobody
talks about this. It's right on the White House website.
He's going to make silencers legal. Why are we making
firearm silences legal?
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Why should we make silencers legal? I don't understand, Troy.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Well, that's on the bill randomly.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
No, no, I understand that. But what's what's First of all,
you know that a silencer is it's it just lessens
the noise. It's not an actual suppressor. You realize that, right,
It's not like in the movies you go put when
you shoot somebody. It just guns are very, very loud.
A silencer just muffles it a little bit. So why
(21:23):
to understand what's the problem with silencers?
Speaker 5 (21:27):
I think with all the problems we have in the world,
I think it's a it's a waste of time to
just make it easier for people to shoot weapons close
by other people. The people that go to the range,
like myself, we can we can get air plugs and
we can get ear must you know, we don't. We
don't need to make it easier for people to have
weapons that are even more dangerous for you and I.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
How are how are they more dangerous? Having a silencer
is perfectly legal, it's not against the law, and a
lot of people use them because they they as I said,
they deuce to noise. What's the problem. Money's not sing
and it's not costing us any money. Illegals on the
other hand, yeah, you say, if you legalize them, hey,
(22:11):
you're rewarding criminal law breaking. So you're basically destroying the
rule of law in our country. I don't understand the
logic of that. But let that go. Yeah, they'll pay taxes.
And what's the other side. They're eligible for Social Security,
they're eligible for Medicare, they're eligible for Medicaid. You think
we can put twenty twenty five thirty million illegals on
(22:32):
Social Security. It'll bankrupt the entire system. No, if you
want to save money, you have to deport the illegals.
That's the only way to save money. And even then,
you're right, we're probably going to have to make difficult
cuts in national defense. We shouldn't be the global policeman
to begin with. Why are we spending a trillion dollars
(22:54):
a year on the military. The Cold War is over.
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number. Okay, I just got another text message
from my wonderful wife, Grace. Elon Musk must shut up.
You're not in charge now, so keep What she said
was Elon Musk, shut up, You're not in charge now.
(00:22):
So she doesn't like it that Elon's talking and that
he's criticizing the bill six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight. Again, last time I checked, it
was a free country. But I don't know. Maybe I
didn't get the memo. Six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight. Okay, do you agree with Elon's
(00:45):
I mean, searing criticism of the bill, calling it a
disgusting abomination. Should he have kept his mouth shut? Should
he have said nothing and do everything he can to
try to get the bill passed? Uh many now accusing
him of sabotaging Trump and sabotaging the bill. I honestly
(01:05):
think he's just speaking from the heart. But that's me.
I want to hear from you. Six one seven two
six x sixty eight sixty eight. Couple of lines are
open if you want to jump on Dennis in Man's field.
Thanks for holding Dennis and welcome, Hey Jeff, ok I
can hear you. Can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
One time to talk to a couple of years anyway,
go ahead, one thing before I get that's so sorry,
A bunch of dad.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
And thank you, Thank you very much, Dennis.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I have a good kind of a difference. You know
what these two guys must elon Musk great patriots Trump.
I mean, I think I think it's more I think
whether they get the whether they and here's my take
on it. What I've been hearing is that they're gonna
(02:03):
if they get the the the bill, pass right bill, gonna,
I think they'll bank up the country.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Want Dennis, we're getting a very bad connection. We can't
hear you. Let's see if we can try to reconnect
with you. Just hang on, okay, Dennis Vincent in Marlborough.
Thanks for holding Vincent and welcome, Hello Vincent. Okay, let's
(02:39):
see if we can Phil in the great state of Missouri.
Thanks for holding pail and welcome.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Hey Jeff, thanks for taking my call. My pleasure, our starters, Hey, Grace,
we are in charge. Musk is in charge. You are
in charge. It's our money. These people work for us. Okay,
don't don't ever forget that. And you know, Jeff one
thing too. If I were a young person, why would
I ever vote for anything ever? Again, if you're under
the age of thirty, I mean, this thing is gonna
(03:09):
this bill is going to cripple any future generations with
debt and taxes. And you know what's in there for
the younger person? Is there anything for you know, first
time home buyers, married couples, trying to start a family.
Anything about student loan debt? We found out that's a
big deal. I mean, maybe we should do something for
(03:30):
you know, the younger people coming up.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Well, that's just my thought.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
On I'll fill you're on fire, and I promise I'll
let you finish everything you want to say. No, that
Doge exposed this was These were Elon's people. It wasn't
Elon himself, but his people. Don't know if you saw
this scandal, this was I believe yesterday or the day before.
Don't quote me, Phil, but last twenty four to forty
eight hours, millions and millions of dollars in student loans
(04:00):
aid to dead people, I swear to you. So they
weren't just giving Social Security checks to dead people. They
weren't just giving medicaid to dead people. Now we find
out they're literally giving student loans and student aid your money,
my money, Phil, to dead people, I e. Probably illegal aliens, fraudsters, scammers.
(04:27):
So that's what that's what we're getting with our government.
And I think, to be fair, that's where Elon's coming from.
He's like, I'm uncovering all of this fraud, and I'm
trying to save money to save the country so we
don't go broke, literally go caput, go bankrupt. And you
guys are going to rack up the national credit card
(04:47):
by another five trillion dollars, You're gonna lift the death
ceiling by another five trill trillion with a budget deficit
this year, and this bill of two point five trillion,
which is five hundred billion more than Biden like, and
so what I broke my rear end for?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
What?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Really? I broke my back for what my team? What
was all this for? And so I think Elon's looking
at this and saying this is just not sustainable. And
you're right, Phil, He's this to me, this kind of
out of control spending, reckless spending. You're selling our young
(05:28):
people out. I mean you're selling them down the river,
and I think you put your finger right on it.
If you're thirty and under, why would you vote for
either party ever? Again? I mean, all they're doing now
is screwing you and screwing you and then screwing you again. Phil,
(05:48):
please continue.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
All right, Jeff?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Thanks? And you know, well, one thing they said is
no tax on tips. Okay, great, So my future is
service industry jobs. They're gonna have to work more than
forty hours so we can keep businesses open to let
this economy grow. Great. I get no tax on my tips,
but I get taxed on my time because now I
got to work over forty hours just to make ends
(06:13):
meet in this country because it's too expensive as it is.
You know nothing about growing the family, nothing about you know,
maybe having enough money or tax credits where maybe one
parent could stay home and help raise a child. And
you know nothing about say, I heard nothing about you know,
school choice vouchers anything like that. I know they mentioned
(06:34):
something about, you know, first, if you have a baby,
maybe giving a ten thousand dollars credit or something towards
car seats and diapers and things that are just you know,
outrageously expensive for a young couple. But if I were
under thirty, or say you're eighteen years old, would you
want your son or daughter to fight for this country?
And what do they inherit? Okay, you win the war,
(06:54):
you save the country. Now what you got crippling debt?
Long hours of work to pay off? You know whatever
the boomers and Gen X and everybody else added to
this debt. They got to fix this now. And Elon
is has been one hundred percent right since he started,
and Trump has been too. But I tell you on
this thing, they got to fix this before they go forward.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Phil my position, I'm with you, Phil, as I like
to say, I agree with you, not one hundred one
thousand percent. Please, I'm begging them fix it now. Cut
the spending. Six one seven two six x sixty eight
sixty eight is the number. Okay, it's the big beautiful
blow up. Elon comes out against the bill. Rand Paul
(07:39):
says it's unsustainable. He's got three other Republicans with him
in the Senate. Remember they only have it's fifty three
forty seven, so if four are dead set against the bill,
it's not going to pass. Rand Paul, Senator Mike Lee,
Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, Senator Rick Scott, all four
(08:00):
of them now say it adds way too much to
the national debt, is out of control, budget deficits, and
outrageous spending. They say they will not support it in
current form under no circumstances. So my question to you,
should they cut the spending? Is it time to fix it?
(08:21):
Or should Trump dig in his heels and try to
ram it through the Senate and get the bill passed.
Where do you stand? Stix one seven two six x
sixty eight sixty eight lines are jammed, Bob, Bobby in Saugus.
Thanks for holding, Bobby, and welcome.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yes, hey, Jeff, thanks for all you do.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Oh my pleasure. Thank you, Bobby.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
You've been a blessing so many of us. Thank you
very much. But I have one question. If the bill passes,
where do you get the five trillion from the Easter
Bunny Santa Claus? Where does that money come from.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
We're gonna have to borrow, we're gonna we're raising the
national debt limit and we're gonna borrow, and we're gonna
print money, and we're gonna add to the national debt.
And my fear, Bobby, is it's going to lead to
a lot of inflation. Like Biden, we're spending money. I mean,
(09:24):
it's out of control. But you know where do we
get the money from. We borrow, and the more we borrow,
the higher we have to pay the interest on the debt.
And we're already paying a trillion dollars a year just
an interest, just the interest. That's why Elon is saying
his words, not mine, We're now this is a ticking
(09:45):
debt bomb. And he said with this bill, he fears
it's gonna detonate in a couple of years. And that's
why he called it a disgusting abomination. Now, it's not
the Trump promises. He loves the promises. He loves much
of the bill. The stuff that Trump wants, he says,
is great. It's the spending side. And this is where
(10:10):
this is Thune, this is Mike Johnson. This is the
leadership where they just basically went to every member of
Congress and said, okay, for you to support it, what
do you want? And it's it's it's every special interest.
It's loaded with pork. I mean, Bobby there there, I'm
telling I've never seen a bill spend as much money
(10:31):
as this they're talking airports, roads, highways, bridges. I mean,
everybody's getting paid green energy subsidies, the Green New Deal,
every just you go right, It does it. Whatever is
in your district, whatever your lobbyist wants, whatever your donor wants.
(10:53):
This bill gives it to you, good and hard. And
that's why it's got such an astronomic price tag. But please, Bobby,
final word to you, my friend.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Yeah, it puts us in a debt bible. I'm not
the brightest guy in the world, but I know a
little bit about arithmetic, and you can't spend more than
your make forever. It's going to blow up.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
That's my fear. I mean, we're already we're I mean, look,
just to show you how bad it is, we spend
more on interest on the debt than we do on
the entire military of the United States, than we do
on Social Security. Then we do on Medicare, then we
(11:44):
do on Medicaid, then we do on welfare. Then it's
the number one thing now that we pay for. Now,
there's going to be a point and we're coming. We're
really it's there. Well, we're going to be spending so
much just to finance the debt interest. We're gonna say,
I'm sorry, we can't. We can't. No, you want that
missile system, we can't get it. You want to build
(12:07):
more navy ships, We can't. No, I'm sorry, we can't.
We can't give you that social security check. No, we're
gonna have to raise the retirement age. In other words,
it's gonna start very soon. We're gonna it's gonna crack
with the budgetary term. Is it crowds out other items?
Quote unquote. What that means is, no, we don't have
(12:29):
money for hospitals. No, there's no money for roads. See,
and this is my fear. This is Argentina, this is
third world countries where the debt is so big that
they have no money left for anything else. And then
you see, Bobby, this is the death spiral. To finance
(12:50):
the debt, you have to print money. Well, what happens
when you print money. It leads to massive inflation and
nothing destroys the middle class. We saw under Biden that
when prices just keep going up and up and up,
because your dollar is worthless because they just keep printing it.
So that's why, look, I commend Elon, he's telling Trump
(13:14):
what he honestly believes, and he's not saying no tax
on tips, He's for it. No tax on overtime, don't
extend the tax cuts, don't secure the border, don't mastery
port illegals. Don't build that beautiful golden dome missile defense shield.
He says. All this is wonderful, he goes, but you
(13:34):
gotta tackle the spending, and instead these guys ran wild,
and Elon says, it's too much, like I goes, I
run companies. I'm telling you, if I ran, as he
put it, if I ran my company the way they're
running this government, we'd be broke. We'd be bankrupt, We'd
be broke, everybody would be laid off, and I'd be
(13:55):
penniless and out on the street. And he doesn't want
to see that happen to the United States of America.
And Bobby I agree with him. It would break my
heart if this debt would break our back. And look, Bobby,
these are numbers, and it's hard to emotionally relate to numbers.
(14:18):
But you go from thirty seven trillion that's the debt
now to a forty five trillion. It's too much. I mean,
it's just it's too much, you know, It's like you
living in a house and you've got a million dollar
mortgage on it. You're like, it's a big mortgage. But okay,
(14:39):
I'm bringing in five six, seven hundred thousand dollars a
year so I can pay my car and we still
live well and I can still pay off this mortgage.
But then you add another two to three million to
the mortgage. Suddenly the mortgage is no longer one, it's
three four million. He can't it. It's too much. Even
(15:03):
if you bring in more revenue, it's still too much.
And that's what Elon is saying. It's too much debt.
It's too much, and he says he believes it's gonna
crush us. And that's my fear. That's why I'm saying,
if you could, if Trump could talk to these people
and say, look, you got to cut some of the spending.
(15:25):
This is no, no, you're not. Don't raise the national
debt limit the five trillion dollars. You guys are crazy,
like something has to give. Bobby, what say you cashay?
Speaker 4 (15:39):
The bad drop to all this is the world is
d dollarizing and the last Treasury auction we have was dismal,
So we can't even sell out debt. It's difficult to
sell out debt, I should say, and it's going to
get worse.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Oh you nailed it. I mean it's someone's almost like Elon, Seriously,
that's what he's saying. He goes, and the problem is
if people don't buy our debt, then what happens. We're done,
We're finished, Like do you understand that's a that's a default.
That's and countries have defaulted. So he's saying, you're carrying
so much debt it's too dangerous. And that's why I
(16:20):
don't want to get into the you know, I don't
want to sound like an economics one on one here,
but it's going to break the bond market. That's what
it means. Like you can't sell your debt, nobody wants
to buy government bonds. Well, if you can't sell your debt,
nobody's buying government bonds, it's over. Like so Elon is saying,
we're carrying too much debt now with this bill, it's
(16:43):
going to be too much. Six one seven, Thank you, Bobby,
really good call six one seven two six six sixty
eight sixty eight. That's why Look they're still time. These
are the same people that told Trump in his first
term that five billion with a B was just too
much money. This was gonna break the bank. Five billion
(17:07):
for the wall, five billion for the wall. Whoa, hey, no,
no way, come on, you're gonna bankrupt us. What are
you talking about now? Five trillion dollars to the national debt?
No problem? No, what's the hey? Trillion here? Trillion there?
(17:27):
What's the difference? A ya yai nine fifty on the
Great WRKO Jeff Cooner Boston's bulldozer six one seven two
six six sixty eight sixty eight. Okay. A couple of
you have also made this point as well, and I
think it's genius, absolute genius. Again, best audience in the business, Jeff.
(17:50):
Imagine you run a company, hey, a corporation. Revenue which
is this is how much the federal government takes in
and tax revenue every since year. Revenue is five trillion dollars,
five trillion. Every customer of your so called corporation is
(18:13):
every person in the United States who's an adult, and
you're still losing two trillion dollars a year. I mean
every right, no matter what, everybody is forced to buy
this product or whatever to pay this corporation. Why, because
(18:34):
you go to jail, right, you go to you don't
pay your taxes, you go to prison. So imagine a
corporation where you're bringing in five trillion a year in revenue,
five trillion with a T and everybody is your customer
and they have to buy what you're selling, and you're
still losing money hand over fist two trillion. That's how
(18:58):
badly our political class, the swamp, the establishment, our politicians,
that's how badly they have mismanaged our country. In Japan,
they'd be committing herry Cari like this, jump out of
a window, you know, like that. I've shamed myself, my country,
(19:20):
my family, Hella, and they just jump out here. They
they did. They get rich, they become lobbyist and get
even richer. Troy and Peabaty, thanks for holding Troy, and welcome.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
I appreciate that. First time caller. Welcome, true, Thank you
very much. So I have been told that if we
don't want to spend money, why don't we take it
a step further and try to create some revenue. We
have plenty and plenty of illegals here that actually work,
are better people than a lot of US citizens that
(19:55):
would just love to pay taxes, you know, instead of
focusing on masterp nation, how about some naturalization. At the
same time, get their tax money. They're not all bad people.
If anybody's ever been hungry or needed something, they've gone
and they've gotten a lot of these people wanted to
feed their family. There's an imaginary line. There's no border,
(20:18):
right because having a border back then was racist allegedly,
So they crossed it to feed their family. And that's
what they're doing for the most part, you know, and
they would love to pay taxes.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Also.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
I looked up to what the spending is and the
lot of the big spending is national security. Kind of
need it. We need a wall, we need these things.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
We need border patrol.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
I'm sure Musk can cut it in half. But nobody
talks about this. It's right on the White House website.
He's going to make silencers legal. Why are we making
firearm silences legal?
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Why should we make silencers legal? I don't understand, Troy.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Well, that's on the bill randomly.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
No, no, I understand that. But what's what's First of all,
you know that a silencer is it's it just lessens
the noise. It's not an actual suppressor. You realize that, right,
It's not like in the movies you go put when
you shoot somebody. It just guns are very, very loud.
A silencer just muffles it a little bit. So why
(21:23):
to understand what's the problem with silencers?
Speaker 5 (21:27):
I think with all the problems we have in the world,
I think it's a it's a waste of time to
just make it easier for people to shoot weapons close
by other people. The people that go to the range,
like myself, we can we can get air plugs and
we can get ear must you know, we don't. We
don't need to make it easier for people to have
weapons that are even more dangerous for you and I.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
How are how are they more dangerous? Having a silencer
is perfectly legal, it's not against the law, and a
lot of people use them because they they as I said,
they deuce to noise. What's the problem. Money's not sing
and it's not costing us any money. Illegals on the
other hand, yeah, you say, if you legalize them, hey,
(22:11):
you're rewarding criminal law breaking. So you're basically destroying the
rule of law in our country. I don't understand the
logic of that. But let that go. Yeah, they'll pay taxes.
And what's the other side. They're eligible for Social Security,
they're eligible for Medicare, they're eligible for Medicaid. You think
we can put twenty twenty five thirty million illegals on
(22:32):
Social Security. It'll bankrupt the entire system. No, if you
want to save money, you have to deport the illegals.
That's the only way to save money. And even then,
you're right, we're probably going to have to make difficult
cuts in national defense. We shouldn't be the global policeman
to begin with. Why are we spending a trillion dollars
(22:54):
a year on the military. The Cold War is over.
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