Should the U.S. give Ukraine security guarantees?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
We have a very good meeting today, but we'll see.
I mean, it's you know, you have to get a deal.
We read it a lot of points. I want to
see people stop dying in Ukraine, and that's what's happening.
We're losing five six, seven thousand. They're Russians, mostly Russians
and their Ukrainian soldiers. There's some people dying in cities
and towns where they're trying to blow up missile manufacturers

(00:22):
and other things in some cities. I don't know if
you know what's going on there, but there are a
lot of people dying. And if we can end that
war would be very good. And I was very happy
to hear him say if I was president, that war
would have never happened.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Eight twenty on the Great WRKO Jeff Cooner Boston's Bulldozer
six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. That,
of course, was President Trump on his way back after
the historic Alaska Summit on Friday, meeting with Putin. One

(00:56):
of the things that I was most happy to see,
among others, was Putin's public acknowledgment saying, no, I'm telling
you right now, if Trump was president, had they not
stolen the election from him in twenty twenty. There never
would have been an invasion of Ukraine. Why because they
never would have pushed NATO onto our doorstep. Trump would

(01:18):
never have done that, so they would not have crossed
Russia's red line, and hence there would have been no
invasion and none of the slaughter and the death and
the destruction that has ensued. In other words, this entire
war primarily falls on the hands of Joe Biden. He

(01:40):
and the globalists took NATO right to the brink, right
to Putin's doorstep. They knew this would poke the Russian bear.
The Russian bear would lash out, and here we are
now a million dead or maimed on both sides, Ukraine
essentially broken as a country, ten million refugees, the Russian

(02:04):
economy now severely damaged at least for a generation, the
Russian military now badly degraded, and a lot of Russian
mothers burying their Russian sons. And so the question is
should the United States give security guarantees to finally end

(02:27):
the fighting and the dying. Six one seven two, six,
six sixty eight sixty eight russ in Boston, thanks for
holding russ and as always welcome, Jeff.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Let us never forget that we're possibly responsible for the
war between Ukraine and Russia. Okay. Number one, knowing the
Russians would never accept NATO troops in Ukraine. Okay. Now,
from Bill Clinton on, we've only had one exceptional commander
inith and that as President Trump. We led the Ukrainians

(03:03):
to believe when they gave up the nuclear Ruffians that
they were given protection, at the same time guaranteeing the
Russians that there would never be native troops in Ukraine. Okay,
So you know what, we pulled a rope for dope
from both of them. Unfortunately, with these incompetent solbs that
we've had running our country now, the real winners of

(03:24):
this war are the scumbag warmongers, the AMTI warriors who
never shed their own blood. They shed other people's blood.
And there's one that's served in Vietnam and in Germany
is what I call a tripwire soldier. By now, I
was surprised that the Europeans were not strong enough to
defend themselves, but thanks to President Trump, they will soon

(03:49):
be strong enough to defend themselves and Big Brother doesn't
have to come to their aid. Okay. Now, as far
as the Europeans are concerned, let them step up and
let them give guarantees to the Ukrainians. Okay, But we
will not be any part of that. And if there's
a war again between Ukraine and Russia, it will not

(04:12):
trigger Article five. End of story, Jeff, I'm tired of this.
And Jeff, I want to tell you, as a war
bitter myself, I've looked back at World War One and
on and I see how these wars could have been
prevented and they'd be thousands and millions of people still alive. Jeff. Okay,
but damn it. We allow these solbs to put us

(04:34):
in a position of war and then create hatred between
the countries. And I'm sick of it, Jeff. I'm sick
of it, and I'm sick of it. Okay. And most
of them, I hope all of them rotten hell. And
I'll tell you one other things. Very Rally's coming up
with a book next month and it's called confront to Evil.
I cannot wait to buy that book.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
I'll tell you right now.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Well, you know, I gotta say, Russ you always you're
very moving when you talk about obviously your experience in
Vietnam and how you patriotically and bravely served two terms,
sorry two tours forgive me. And as someone who saw combat,
you know that war is hell. And this is what
I find amazing. You know how many people in our

(05:18):
elites love war, thirst for war, can't get enough war.
And these are people who obviously never saw war. And
you know, we don't to even take your word for it,
although your word is as good as anybody's. Believe me.
Look at General William tacomsis Sherman, you know, one of
the greatest generals the North ever had in our Civil

(05:42):
War and afterwards after the Civil War. Here's what he said.
I'm almost paraphrasing, but pretty much word for word. He said,
war as hell. He goes. Anybody who tells you they
love war have never fought in a war, he goes.
And I'm telling you this as a general who war
for four years. To hear men's moaning, they're shrieking, how

(06:06):
they cry out in pain, to see the blood, the devastation,
the carnage, the misery. He said, war is absolute hell.
And I hope I never have to see it again.
So people like you r Us who've actually seen war

(06:27):
and the carnage and the death and the destruction and
the misery. You're the biggest anti war people in the
world because you said, look, I'm telling you there's nothing
there's nothing glorified about war. There's no glory to war.
That's only in the movies. Jeff Coo and our Boston's Bulldozer.
Six one seven two, six, six sixty eight sixty eight

(06:48):
is the number. Okay, let me throw a very quick
log on the fire. I'd love to get all of
you your input and your take on this Trump over
the last seventy two hours, especially the last forty eight
in the wake of his summit in Alaska, which again

(07:09):
to me, was an absolute master stroke. With Vladimir Putin
has been getting hammered, I mean pounded around the clock
on This is CNN or MSNBC or CBS News or
ABC News or I could just run down the whole
list on NBC News, the New York Times, Peace after Peace,

(07:36):
the Washington Post that he never should have met Putin,
that the sheer fact that he met Putin was a
victory for Russia and a defeat for the United States.
This is the media narrative. This is the liberal Democrat
narrative that by meeting him, by shaking his hand, by

(07:58):
rolling out the red carpet, he elevated Putin on the
world stage. He un isolated Putin. Putin had been isolated
in the West for the last couple of years since
the war with Ukraine. He ended this isolation and he
put Putin on an equal par and an equal footing

(08:19):
with the president, which boosted Putin's authority, legitimacy, and standing.
And the argument is he got nothing in return, That
he got essentially zero, that Putin got so much while

(08:40):
while Trump and the United States got so little, and
that again, it was another example, according to the left,
of Trump appeasing Putin and of constantly giving away the
store that ultimately Trump is on the side of Putin,
not on the side of Ukraine or Europe or democracy. Listen, now,

(09:06):
this is Martha Raddits ABC News with Secretary of State
Marco Rubio, and frankly, I thought Rubio answered her question
or her charges to devastating effect. Roll cut eleven dan.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
Critics of President Trump will say, the pomp and circumstances,
the pomp and circumstance, the red carpet, the warm handshake.
The President Trump simply lost that. The Putin gained there
just by being on the world stage and walking down
a red carpet with the president.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Your reaction to that.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
Well, I mean, critics of President Trump are always going
to find something to criticize. You don't pay attention to
it anymore. But I will tell you this, Putin is
already on the world stage. He's already on the world stage.
The guy's conducting a full scale war in Ukraine. He's
already on the world stage. He has the world's largest
tactical nuclear arsenal in the world and the second largest
strategic nuclear arsenal in the war. He's already on the

(10:01):
world stage.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
When I hear.

Speaker 6 (10:02):
People say that it elevates him, well, all we do
is talk about Putin all the time. All the media
has done is talk about Putin all the time for the.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Last four or five years.

Speaker 6 (10:09):
That doesn't mean he's right about the war. That doesn't
mean he's justified about the war.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Now he continues, and he's basically saying, really like, hey,
dumb dumb, seriously dumb dumb, if you want to end
the war between Russia and Ukraine, you have to meet
the leader of Russia a dull Hello, Hello, No listen

(10:35):
to Rubio roll cut eleven a dan.

Speaker 6 (10:40):
Ultimately, at the end of the day, we have to
get the Russian side to agree to things that they
don't want to agree to if we're going to have peace.
If not, they'll just be a war. They'll keep killing
each other, and life will go on in America and
in the rest of the world, but not for Ukraine.
So the President has invested a lot of time in
trying to bring an end to this war. He deserves
credit for doing that. He gets criticism for doing that.
He could have let this war go on. The President

(11:02):
could have just said, this is Biden's war. It started
under him. We'll do what we can for Ukraine, but
we're gonna focus on other things. He could have easily
said that. But he's the only liter in the story
final that can get purt into a meeting to talk
about serious things.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
He's completely right. I mean, it's like he's talking to children.
No really, it's just hey, look if you want to.
And by the way, these are the same liberals, the
same media, the same democrats who idolize FDR. Okay, idolize FDR,
FDR praised the Munich agreement. He opened me. I mean

(11:38):
he sent press release after he congratulated Neville Chamberlain. So
FDR no problem that Chamberlain met with Hitler hell signed
away at another country's independence. He didn't care. This is
the same FDR who sat down with Stalin and, by
the way, gave away Eastern Europe at Yalta. But let

(11:58):
that go, and he sat down with Stalin, one of
the greatest mass murderers and genocidal monsters in history. They
love them for it. Nixon broke bread with Mao, met
with Mao, sat down, They toasted each other, They shook hands.

(12:20):
They rolled out the red carpet. I mean, I'm sorry.
If you're gonna deal with a major power and a
major country, especially to end a war, or prosecute a war,
or conclude a war, you're gonna have to sit down
and meet with the leader of that country. Now, what
are you gonna do? Have him come in through the

(12:40):
back door. No, like you do with other foreign leaders,
You roll out the red carpet. You showed them that
kind of respect, You shake their hand. Why you want
to create a good, positive atmosphere so you can get
concessions out of them like, I'm sorry, hello, it's diplomacy,

(13:01):
one oh one. They've been doing it like this since
the beginning of time for thousands of years, so it's
gotten to the point. No really, Like, so, what do
you want Trump to do? Putin comes?

Speaker 4 (13:14):
What?

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Peuh? Peuh? What's spit in his face?

Speaker 3 (13:17):
What?

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Slap him? What? Kick him in the groin? I'm sorry
forgive you what? Kick him in the balls? Is that
what you want? He showed him, He showed him, Okay,
And then the fighting continues, and the dying continues, and
Ukraine continues to get destroyed even more so, what did

(13:40):
we lose? Nothing? What was given up? Nothing? I'm talking
about the meeting with Putin? Now what we are giving up?
And this, by the way, notice they have no problem
with In fact, they want to hell, they want to
give them the Nobel Peace Prize. Notice for this. Suddenly,
have you noticed he's not Hitler? Now, all of a sudden,

(14:04):
now that Trump is seriously considering giving a permanent security guarantee,
a military guarantee to Ukraine, all of a sudden, have
you noticed he's not at all Hitler?

Speaker 4 (14:18):
No?

Speaker 2 (14:18):
No, now, he's not a dictator, He's not a fascist.
Hillary Clinton wants to give him the Nobel Peace Prize.
Now the media in unison, the entire corporate media, genius
genius Trump thinking outside the box. Whoa he can deliver peace,

(14:42):
He'll be a peacemaker. Suddenly that he's willing to commit
the United States to a thousand years to defending Ukraine
and his borders. All all of a sudden, that all dah,
they love you see, when we give up everything on
behalf of another country thousands of miles away, that could

(15:07):
potentially lead to a world war with Russia. And let's
be clear, the left thirsts for nuclear war with Russia.
That's what was so obvious about their reaction to the
Alaska summit. It didn't I don't care if it was ABC, CBS, ANDBC,

(15:27):
those clowns at MS, LEFTBC, the Clinton Used Network, CNN,
all of them, New York Times, Washington Post. Here's their position.
How dare he meet with Putin? How dare he met him?
How dare my god? He should have sin? He should
have he should have sanctioned him on the spot. You

(15:50):
don't want a peace deal because you want the war
to continue, and you don't care how many Ukrainians are destroyed,
how many Russians are destroyed, how many cities are leveled,
and how many more innocent civilians are butchered. You don't care.
And if things escalate to a potential nuclear war, even better, seriously,

(16:15):
even better, because they're that consumed with hatred for Trump
and for Putin. Now, this is Biden's war, make no
mistake about it. He provoked it. I believe he incited it.

(16:35):
He extended it, he prolonged it. He is the one
He mismanaged it. This is all at Biden's feet. All
Trump is trying to do is clean up Biden's mess
and Biden's disaster. And now I believe he is being

(16:59):
set up. It is a trap where they are trying
to convince him that the only way to the peace table,
the only way to hammer out an agreement, is for
us to give Ukraine what it has always wanted and
what the globalists have always wanted, an American protectorate. A

(17:22):
security guarantee means Ukraine will now be a protectorate of
the United States from this point forward. If Trump agrees
to this, we will be involved in Ukraine's eternal affairs forever.
Kuoner Liberalism's worst nightmare. Six one seven two six six

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sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay, honestly, I
think this issue is so important, you know me, I
rarely repeat the poll question of the day, but I
really want to get your take on this Kooner Country.
I know the White House is listening not just this show,
but at key shows, just to get a sense of
the temperature of Trump's supporters of MAGA on how far

(18:06):
Trump should go in terms of trying to get a
peace deal accomplished between Putin and Zelensky, Russia and Ukraine.
So this is the Kuner Country pole question of the
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(18:28):
Should President Trump make a NATO Article five like security
agreement for the protection of Ukraine in order to broker
a peace deal that would end the war with Madarasha?
In other words, should Trump give a permanent security guarantee,

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meaning if Ukraine is attacked by Russia or any other country,
we are automatically obligated to go to war on behalf
of Ukraine. Should Trump give a security guarantee to Ukraine
in exchange for a piece deal with Russia? A? Yes,

(19:12):
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line is on fire. A lot of texts are pouring in.
This is from seven eight one. Jeff, what if this

(19:58):
big meeting today between Zolensky and all of these European
leaders is basically an intervention aimed at Zelensky, using peer
pressure of essentially the entire world to tell him to
cut it out and play ball. Zolensky's head is so

(20:21):
full of crap right now because he's the center of
attention and he doesn't want to lose that. He is
a narcissist, as we've seen in his past videos as
an entertainer. The adults are coming together to straighten him out,
and I think he is going to realize that either

(20:43):
he plays ball or he's kicked out of the game.
That's my take. Interesting, Well, look, I think Starmer's not
an idiot. Mccron's not an idiot. I'll tell you this.
Georgia Maloney, the Prime Minister of Italy, is certainly not
an idiot. She's i think, an excellent leader of Italy.

(21:05):
She's got a good head on her shoulder. She's a conservative,
a populist. She's telling Zelenski apparently in private, you're crazy.
If you don't take this deal, you're never gonna get
a better deal. Anything after this point is only gonna
get worse and worse for Ukraine and Ukrainians. You're gonna

(21:27):
lose more territory, more land, more cities. You're gonna lose
more people, more soldiers, more civilians, and you may never
get another deal again. Where Remember this is not Biden
or Kamala offering this. This is Trump. This is America
first Trump. And if he's willing to put security guarantees

(21:53):
on the table, you don't look a gift horse in
the mouth. You sign and you say thank you, mister President.
So Maloney is definitely going to be there to pressure
Zelenski and say, if we're all in Europe going to
give you a security guarantee on top of Trump and

(22:13):
the United States, don't be a fool sign and sign
now agree disagree. Six one seven two six six sixty
eight sixty eight is the number Kathy in New Hampshire.
Thanks for holding Kathy.

Speaker 7 (22:31):
And welcome Hi Jeff. Thanks for taking the prom my pleasure.
My head is all over the place. First of all,
if Hillary Clinton comes out and says he'll nominate him
for a Nobel Peace Prize, you know whatever it is
is wrong. Secondly, who is this little worn to dictate

(22:51):
to this country the terms of a peace agreement for
a war that we're not even involved in. If Trump
does this, he loses his MAGA support, he loses the
credibility that he's fought so hot for. And I hope
his ego does not get in the way, because I
know this Nobel Peace drives is a big deal. But

(23:14):
if he allows his ego to take over and get
us to commit for the rest forever the young people
in this country is exactly what we voted him to
keep us out of. He is making a huge mistake.
And I voted for this man three times and I

(23:36):
will I will, and I know by the tone of
the callers that are calling in I'm not alone in
my failings. He would be making the biggest mistake. Zelenski
is a worm and if he's not, okay, we'll just
taking the support of the European countries. What does that
tell you? This is a trap and if he falls

(23:58):
for it, I will take way all the thoughts I
had about him as being smart, a chess player, blah
blah blah. He knows his next move. He is making
the biggest mistake of his life. And I'll tell you
to get us involved in a commitment for the rest
of whatever is the worst possible thing he can do.
I don't care what the times are. We are not

(24:23):
involved in this war. And if we don't get if
he doesn't broke a piece deal, we don't lose anything.
All it is is an ego trip for Trump because
he promised.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
To end the war.

Speaker 7 (24:35):
We'll put you an ego aside and put the American
people first like you vowed to do. Period.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Kathy. If you don't mind, you're on fire, by the way,
absolute fire. I want to play a couple of clips,
and I want to get your reaction, okay, and I
want to get the audience's reaction. It's a big log
I'm throwing on the fire. As I like to say,
This is the video of the hilde beast of Hillary
rotten Clinton saying, you know what, Trump, if he's able

(25:07):
to get a peace deal and the only way is
through security guarantees for Ukraine, I will personally nominate Trump
for the Nobel Peace Prize. Roll cut nine.

Speaker 8 (25:19):
Dan, if President Trump were the architect of that, I'd
nominate him for a Nobel Peace Prize.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Now this made i mean headline news everywhere, so much
so that when Trump was flying to Alaska, he had
a one on one interview with Bret bhar from Fox News,
and Bear right away said to him, did you hear
what Hillary said about you? And apparently Trump wasn't aware,

(25:47):
and he goes, no, what did she like? You figured?
What did she attack me? Again? What name did she
call me? Today? He says, Oh, no, this is going
to blow your mind. You deliver peace. She's going to
nominate you. She is going to nominate you for the
Nobel Peace Prize. Roll cut nine A.

Speaker 9 (26:09):
Mike, Sorry, Dan, did you see that Hillary Clinton yesterday
said that if you got this deal done and not
capitulate to putin that she would nominate you for the
Nobel Peace Prize.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Well that was very nice I may have to start
liking her again.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
So I thought, to be honest, Kathy, I want to
play one more cut and get your reaction that Trump
was being a little you know, tongue in cheek, and
you know, he's got a very good sense of humor
and he can be quite ironic, and people misread that
about him like, yeah, you know, hey, boy, that's nice
of her. I may have to start liking her again,
you know, ha ha ha ha. Now I'm not so sure,

(26:52):
because after the summit, Right after it, he had to
sit down interview with Sean Hannity, Fox News. Hannity, of course,
asked the same question. Did you hear Hillary says, you
stand up the pultin Ie security guarantees for Ukraine. I
am going to nominate and essentially deliver for you the

(27:15):
Nobel Peace Prize. Listen to Trump's response, He elaborated roll
cut nine B.

Speaker 8 (27:25):
Dan, all Right, do you ever think Hillary Clinton, the
author of the bought and paid for Russian disinformation dossier,
the author of the Russia Russia Russia hoax going into today,
would be saying she would nominate you for a Nobel
Peace Prize. I don't think you ever expected that happening.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Well, you know, I don't want to be involved in
that in the sense, not because of her. It's very
nice if she said that, it's very nice. I really
appreciate it too.

Speaker 8 (27:55):
Actually, but she tried to ruin your life and in
many ways she ruined years of your life.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Well, she made me stronger and tougher.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
When I heard that, honestly, my reaction was, can't you
see It's so obvious she's playing you. Can't you see?
And again you may disagree, Kathy, can't you see she's
just stroking your ego. She's worried you're gonna put her
in jail. After everything that Tulca Gabbard has uncovered and exposed,

(28:32):
She's petrified she's gonna end up behind bars. That's why
now she's going on about giving you the Nobel Peace Prize.
She's trying to get on your good side so you
don't put her ass in jail. And instead they're like, no, no, Donald, no, no, no, hey,
no no no, no, you do this, Donald Donald. We

(28:54):
will go to the Nobel Peace Price Committee and we
will say give that man the Noble By the way, Kathy,
one last point, then I want to go right back
to you. I thought he was Hitler. I thought he
was Putin's best buddy. I thought he was a dictator.
I thought this man was destroying our democracy all of

(29:17):
a sudden, Now look how they seeing out a bunch
of liars they are, They don't believe a single word
that comes out of their mouth. Now, all of a sudden,
to get herself out of trouble, I e. Not go
to jail all of a sudden, give him the Peace Prize?
Well whoa nobody would ever suggest giving Hitler the Peace Prize.
Nobody would ever suggest giving a fascist dictator the Peace Prize, Kathy.

(29:45):
They're trying to manipulate Trump. They're trying to set a
trap for him. They're trying to play to his vanity
and his ego, and they think by handling it, by dangling,
forgive me, dangling the Nobel Peace Prize, that they're going
to get him to sign something that would be a
fundamental betrayal of a key campaign promise. Agree, disagree.

Speaker 7 (30:12):
I agree with everything you just said. And I cannot,
for the life of me understand how a man who
we deemed intelligent and and and had all these strategic
moves that we were we were pretty to how he
would put credence, give credibility to anyone like Hillary Clinton,

(30:34):
who destroyed his life, who destroyed the country for three
years because he couldn't get anything done. How why would
you put credibility into that statement and completely ignore the
people that have stood by you for all these years,
through all these arrest warrants and all these these accusations.

(30:55):
We stood by him, We voted to him, We put
him in office to keep the country uninvolved, to not
be the world police. And he's going to put this
this which her comment over us and in Zelensky, the
full weasel, he gets to dictate to us what the
terms are going to be. Do you know how little

(31:17):
that makes Trump look? If he falls for this, Oh,
I'm gonna say a bad word, but I'm not going
to say it. If he falls for this, he has
lost cups. He's got three years of misery ahead of
him again because he's lost his base. He's worked out there.
It's all it's all a show, it's a trap, it's

(31:37):
a stage, this setting for him.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Kathy, I hear you, Kathy, thank you very much for
that call. Keep us out of Ukraine. I'm with you. Oh,
I'm so with you. I'm so with you. Six one
seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight eight. Yeah, Kathy,
please don't swear on the air. Say bull crap a BS,
say Bravo Sierra. That's all fine, but the S worry

(32:07):
that in the F word. Those are the two words
you can't say. Otherwise you can say whatever you want. Please,
I don't want to get fined millions of dollars. But look,
you spoke from the heart and I truly appreciate it. Look,
she's the one that's set up the Russia collusion hoax.
She's the one that framed him as an agent of Russia.

(32:31):
She's the one that laid the basis for Obama and
Brennan and Clapper and call me to spy on him,
to persecute him, to sabotage him, to undermine him. And
now and by the way, yes, she basically did paralyze
and ruined three years of his presidency and frankly destroy

(32:52):
the country. She divided the country. We've never recovered from
what she did, and all of a sudden she wants
to and it's so obvious you've got her dead to rights.
Thanks to Tulsa Gabbard. You want to prosecute, you got her,
You want to indict her, you got her, You want

(33:13):
to jail or you got her. Now she's like a
cornered rat. So all of a sudden, now i'd nominate
him for the Peace Prize. You'll say anything now to
get out of jail. You crook, you, you little trader.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
You.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
I wouldn't to me if this is me answering the question.
You know that Hillary is nominating you for the Priest Prize.
If you can pull off this deal, I'd be Yeah,
whatever she says, she's gonna get locked up. She can
say whatever she wants. At this point. If I'm her,
I would say, get your affairs in order, because we're
putting you in a jumpsuit. And I think we found

(33:53):
one big enough for your rear end. Okay, we got
I spoke to Pam and she says, yeah, they found one.
They found one. They got to really stretch it there
in their rear end area, but they found one big
enough for her rear end. So that's my only response
is she can say whatever she wants. She's going to prison,
so I don't care what she says. But it's obvious

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now they're doing everything, and they're playing on his heart.
They're playing on his compassion. They're playing on his sense
of ending the carnage and the dead children, and the
dead women, and the dead civilians. And I get it.
And now they're dangling the Nobel Peace Prize, They're dangling
everything in front of him. They just want that security guarantee.

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Once they get that security guarantee, they're in the clear.
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight agree, disagree.
Mark in Milton, Thanks for holding Mark, and welcome.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Hey, good morning, Jeff, thanks for taking my call. I
don't understand why we're looking at this as it's all
one hundred percent one way or one hundred percent the
other way. We have to give President Trump, who is
going to prove himself to be the best president ever,

(35:17):
the ability to have some wiggle room here. I think
they're going to strike a deal. They're going to give
the Ukraine protection, but for a limited amount of time.
Let's take a look at the Ukraine. It's a country
rich in agricultural ability. It's a country tremendously rich in

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minerals and other valuable resources. The real question to be
asked is with all of that at their disposal. They're
not that stupid. They didn't they couldn't have not known
that there was a wolf at the door, and yet
they never did build up a defense that could handle

(36:04):
that wolf. A lah Israel. We have to give the Ukraine.
And here here's what I think. There should be a
three year moratorium on protection to Ukraine, in which time
Number one, there must be a free and fair election

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that has overseen. I mean, I guess we could send
Hillary's people to oversee a free and fair election, but
we need to have a free There needs to be
a free and fair election that going into it, the
Ukrainian people know that much of their resources are going
to be attributed to a strong national defense because in

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three years the US backs out and they now have
an opportunity to run a legitimate country because they know
the corruption can't continue because they will be taken over
in three years plus one day. That's my thought.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Well, Mark, look, let me be brutally honest with you,
like I'm in the confessional. Okay, I'm not saying this
to stroke your ego or get in your good graces.
I'm really speaking truly from the heart. You're a very
smart man. You're a very rational man. You're a very
reasonable man, and everything what you're saying in theory is

(37:31):
brilliant and I can't disagree with you. I can't if
you were to say to me, look, Jeff, to and
all the fighting to and all the dying, the million dead,
and god knows how many more to come, and to
just stop the horror, to slaughter, the destruction. You know what,
the United States, Europe, NATO, we can't give a three

(37:52):
year commitment to Ukraine so we can rebuild itself, rebuild
its economy, rebuild its military, get new elections and the
corruption so Ukraine can stand on its own two feet again.
I would be open to that, no question. I listen.
I'm a human being too, you know. I don't want
to see people dying. I want this war to end
as well. But that's not the reality of Ukraine. What

(38:15):
I'm saying, Mark is, yes, you're you're a brilliant guy,
but they don't think the way you think. You have
to think of the leadership in Ukraine. And I'm sorry
to say this, but that's just the fact you're dealing
with kleptomaniacs. I'm not using that term for effect. That's
what they are. They're kleptomaniacs. They steal and steal and steal.

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Zelensky's worth billions of dollars. How much more do you
need to steal? He can't stop stealing. So you have
to think of gangsters, think the mob. But they're running
a country. They don't see what you see. You see
a strong military, you see beautiful highways, You see hospiles

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and roads and schools and factories and high tech companies
and grain and minerals being developed. You know what they see.
How do we money launder? How do we embezzle? How
do we bribe? How do we steal? How do we
plunder what angle? How can we extract what from whom?

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That's the leadership of the country. That's the reality of Ukraine.
And look, I wish they were asking for three years
Zelensky's asking for a permanent security guarantee, permanent