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January 20, 2025 • 23 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Two six six sixty eight is the number David inland Field.
Thanks for holding David, and welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
For starters. I want to go back, Sandy. I made
a point. I was thinking the exact same thing. Why
wasn't this done months ago, or at least a month ago.
It's because, of course, he wouldn't be able to have
publicly defended it given his lack of competency. He also
has been saying repeatedly no one is above the law,
but apparently everybody is above the law if you're a Democrat. Third,

(00:33):
pardon power is in congruous with prospective crimes. So I
think the critical thing to think here is you look
at the American Heritage Dictionary. The accepted and universal definition
of a pardon says the following I'm going to read
right from it, to release a person from punishment or
disfavor for wrongdoing or a fault. Then it cites the

(00:55):
legal definition. I don't have Black's Law Dictionary in front
of me right now. I am a lawyer, but it
says two law a exemption of a convicted person from
the penalties of an offense or crime by the power
of the executor of the laws be an official document
or warrant declaring such an exemption, such an exemption, an

(01:15):
exemption from what an offense or crime. So this is
now clearly a classic admission that there's been crimes committed
even though there has been no charges brought. And I
want to make another quick point. Let's just think about
this for a second and say, okay, so President Trump
gets sworn it in a matter of hours, he could

(01:35):
prospectively issue a pardon, say at twelve fifteen this afternoon,
for his entire cabinet and his entire administration for the
next four years. Is that really what the pardon power is?
And the quesse the answer to that is obviously not.
So the next president can command engage in all kinds
of criminal activity, federal crimes, and be exempt from ever
being prosecuted. I mean, this cannot stand. It won't stand.

(01:59):
You know, definitions that are in a dictionary. I do
this a lot when I have to defend clients or
make a point. You go to the definitions and you
put that in your briefs, and the judges are hands
their hands are tied because I cannot back down from
an accepted universal definition, and that's what it is a
crime or an offense. We don't even have any of

(02:21):
those at this point, so you can't prospectively pardon.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
David.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Don't get me wrong, I only have eyes for my wife.
But I love you in a non sexual way, my friend.
I couldn't have said it better myself. You're exactly right.
You look at the definition of a pardon. You look
at the history of pardons in the United States given
by presidents.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
I mean, you're the lawyer, David. I know you know
this better than I do.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
It's got to be a specific crime, a specific charge,
a specific offense, a specific fault.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Even you know, I get it.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Okay, he hasn't been formally charged yet, but basically, you
know they want to charge him for murder, or they're
planning to charge.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Him for murder.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
I've never seen anything like this, this blanket, this sweeping,
this open ended, this vague whatever, everything just everything.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
And by the way, it doesn't mean they're guilty or
did any wrongdoing. I'm just saying, whatever they've ever done,
it's all exempt.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
What David, I gotta ask you, as a lawyer, do
you think Trump's Department of Justice will ag PAMBONDI take
this to court? Will it go all the way to
the Supreme Court and will this be overturned.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
She has to, I think it has to. We have
to get this resolve. The pardon power cannot be considered
to be so you know, wide open, overbroad. Just can't Otherwise,
Like I said, we could have any kind of lawless
administration come in and do some form of prospective pardon
and they can engage in all kinds of illegal wiretapping, surveillance, harassment,

(04:08):
everything else, and our exempt from it. You've said it
earlier today about a Banana republic. This is exactly where
we'll end up. We are rapidly heading there. Unfortunately, under
the Biden administration we were basically already down that rabbit hole.
Trump's going to turn it around. We have to. The
Supreme Court must stand together, and it must be a
unanimous decision. The prospective concept of a pardon is wrong.

(04:33):
It's incongreguous with the definition and accepted understanding of normal society.
We don't do these things if they were charged with
something that's different.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
I so agree you have no idea, which I agree. David.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
You've been absolutely brilliant. Let me just push you on
one other point, and if you disagree, please let me know.
To me, this shreeks of dictatorial powers. In other words,
don't dig taters do this? You mentioned third world banana republics.
But you know, isn't this something a king would do
under a monarchy. Isn't this something a dictator would do

(05:09):
a strong man? Isn't this exactly the kind of power
they would have? Exactly?

Speaker 2 (05:15):
I mean, we've already seen this with the student debt cancelation,
where he's basically thunder his nose at the United States
Supreme Court. He basically said, you know, they don't have
any enforcement capabilities or power as oh, well, you can't
do anything. You're just a bunch of people, you know,
dressed up in a black robe. Big deal. I have
the army, I have the guns. Remember he said that stuff.
I have f fifteen fighters that was against you know,

(05:36):
white supremacists or January six ers and all that stuff.
The point is, that's a strong man. That's exactly what
we've got in there. Unfortunately, or I should say fortunately
only for a couple more hours or so. But this
this has been a very frightening four years. I haven't
heard this, but I wonder if Hillary Clinton was given
a pardon for the thirty thousand text messages and emails

(05:57):
that she destroyed with a hammer and a bleach bit thing.
I mean, talk about a criminal. There's a criminal right there.
She You know, I don't know beyond David.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Outstanding call, outstanding call David. Please don't be a stranger.
Call more often. Look this, it's calls like this. Really,
that's why this show is heads and shoulders above others.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
I'm just being honest.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Sixty one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Okay,
Rand Paul has issued a statement about the pardon of Fauci, because,
as you know, Rand Paul was going to lead the
investigation into Fauci. I don't want to rush it. I'm
going to read it on the other side and then
take more of your calls. But trust me when.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
I tell you this.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Oh, you want to hear what Senator rand Paul has
to say. Six one seven two six six sixty eight
sixty eight is the number. Okay, an avalanche now of responses.
Uh to say out age is an understatement to Joe
Biden's unbelievable, shocking, unprecedented decision to now issue preemptive blanket

(07:11):
pardons to milli Fauci, Liz Cheney, the entire January sixth Committee,
every Capitol Hill Police officer involved in January six every
Metropolitan Police officer involved in January six Here is what
Rand Paul had to say.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Quote, if there was ever any doubt.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
As to who bears responsibility for the COVID pandemic, Biden's
pardon of Fauci forever seals the deal. As chairman of
the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, I will
not rest until the entire truth of the cover up

(07:55):
is exposed. Fauci's pardon will only serve as an accelerant
to pierce the veil of deception. Ignominious Anthony Fauci will
go down in history as the first government scientist to
be preemptively pardoned for a crime. And so this is

(08:20):
what I was saying, maybe about an hour ago, I said,
I think Biden has just made a big mistake, because
now he has super charged, super hyper motivated people like
Rand Paul to say, Oh, you're going to cover for
this guy, You're going to try to give him immunity

(08:41):
and destroy our constitution in the process. Now I'm gonna
really get him. And now I'm going to really unmask
and expose him. Uh, and it's obvious, it's a clear
admission of guilt. Six one seven two six six sixty
eight sixty eight is the number. Okay, just very very quick.

(09:01):
A lot of you are texting the Kooner man.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
So uh.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
This is from six h three, Jeff. If I were
Pam Bondy, I would not take it to court prosecute.
Let the accused take it to court. No more asking
for permission, no more negotiating with the ridiculous. That's interesting,

(09:27):
So just you know what's start arrestling him. I don't
give a damn about Joe Biden's pardons. They're not worth
the paper they're written on. Okay, this is from two
one two Jeff. F the executive order overturning the blanket
pardons and f the pardons themselves. When Cash Patel is

(09:48):
in charge of the FBI and he has some loyal
agents Raid Millie, Raid Fauci, Liz Cheney Swat style as
happened to the j six political prisoners, put them in
solitary confinement and let them argue to the courts to
let them out. So many of you are you want

(10:13):
to play hardball? Many of you are saying, Jeff, it's
time to take the gloves off. Okay, this is from
William on messenger. And then I want to go right
back to the phone lines. And he makes an outstanding point, Jeff.
If Joe Biden was found by Robert Hurr incapable of
going to trial, how is it that he's capable of

(10:37):
handing out pardons? William, As they say to Shae, to Shay,
if you're not mentally fit enough to go to trial,
if you're not mentally fit enough to be the party's
presidential nominee, how the hell are you mentally fit enough.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
To issue these crazy partons?

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight agreed, disagree.
Kim in Milford. Thanks for holding Kim and welcome.

Speaker 6 (11:14):
Hey Jeff, how are you today?

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Very good? I can't you can't wait for noon?

Speaker 6 (11:20):
Oh you wait for noon, Kim, don your dad?

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Thank you, Thank you, Kim.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
A couple of things, I mean, Joe Biden himself said
nobody is above the law in his final speech. There
you know, so he's full, you know what, because you
know he's just his mind is gone, you know. And
then if he does a cognitive test, you know, asap
can the courts overrule it, saying that he was, you know,
not competent.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Well, Kim, they'll never allow it. I mean Jill will
never allow it. Hunter will never allow it. Obama would
never allow it. His people around him would never allow
because and this was Trump's argument in that infamous debate,
you know, as it was a very powerful line. He
pointed to him, he said, look at him. He goes, frankly,

(12:11):
he shouldn't be on the stage with me. I don't
if you remember that. But he goes, He's gone. He goes,
I'm sorry, but it's an insult to the country to
have him as our president. So, you know Trump, and
this was in June, and he goes, just look at
the guy. I mean, he's gone. He's non compassment this
so and Ron widen again. I want to rehash old ground,

(12:34):
but just to prove what you're saying, Kim, it's a
very powerful liberal Democratic senator and he's now openly admitted.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
He goes.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
No.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
For a year, I would go say, I want to
see the president. You know, he sits on many important committees,
and they go, you can't talk anything to him off script.
What it's all got to be scripted because he can't
function off script and so Widen basically said, so you're
selling me the guys he's demented. Yeah, he's demented. He

(13:07):
can't function. Now that was a year ago. According to Widen,
that's a Democrat, and now there are other senators who
are spelling the beans. Democrats are saying no, the staff said,
don't talk to him. You can't talk to him who
knows what's going to come out of his mouth. So
they'll never allow him to take that cognitive test because

(13:29):
then the question is, because that's a crime, who covered
it up, Who ordered the cover up, who was involved
in the cover up. Look, there's a brilliant Kim brilliant
piece in today's Wall Street Journal by Matthew Hennessy. He's
their deputy editorial features editor. I urge everybody to read it.
He goes, I'm telling you, he goes. When everything is

(13:49):
said and done, Of all the crimes that Biden has committed,
and there are many, he says, the biggest one was
the cover up of his obvious mental and cognitive infirmity
and decline. This man had no business being in the
White House, and yet it was covered up. By people

(14:12):
close to him. Kim, he does a cognitive test.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
It's an f.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
I mean, he's he's gonna fail.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Look, Kim, I see a doctor, Okay, an ear nose
in throat specialist. Fine, nothing major, but I have to
see him. I have sinus issues and anyway, so I
see him. He's a Democrat. He voted for Kamala Harris. Okay,
he literally he told me. He goes, he voted for Kamala.
He voted for Biden twenty twenty, voted for Hillary in
twenty sixteen. Here's what he told me. And he said,

(14:44):
it's not just me, it's all my colleagues. We sit around,
we have lunch.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
He goes. Biden is so gone mentally that if he.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Came to me and he's just an ear nose in throats,
we're not talking you know, heart surgery or brain surgery.
He says, you know, I don't know a sinus infection
and you got to have an operate to remove it.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
He goes.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
If I had to do any procedure, I would not
accept him as giving voluntary consent. He goes, I'm telling
you the condition that he's in, it's so obvious to
me as a doctor that I would say, I need
to need your wife to sign off, your children, family members. You, sir,
are not mentally fit to sign off on whether I

(15:29):
can do a medical procedure on you. He goes, that's
how obvious his dementia is. So I'm telling you Trump
is gonna make this argument. I don't know if he'll
do it at the inaugural address. I hope he does,
but he'll certainly do it right after when he's signing
executive orders. He's gonna say I want him tested. He's

(15:52):
not compassmentus. And if he's non compassmentus, the pardon doesn't hold.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
It's an all in void. Look, Kim, really, we're.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Three hours, sorry, two hours and twenty minutes away, Okay.
I don't want to jinx us by saying this. Okay,
So I'm as I'm saying it to you. I'm crossing
my fingers, both hands. My fingers are crossed. God as
my witness, Kim, And you can ask my wife, Grace,
if you don't believe me. My biggest fear for the

(16:26):
last four years, and it has kept me awake at night,
is that that senile buffoon would get us into a
nuclear war with Russia, that that idiot would give the
order to press the nuclear button. That's how dangerous I

(16:49):
considered him in his declining mental state state. Let's just
put it mildly. We have no idea what a bullet
or a more accurate what a missile we all dodged.
We have no idea. Kim, final word to you, I'm.

Speaker 6 (17:10):
Gonna say, I think Trump's first executive order should be
to arrest him for treason period.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
I'm with you, Kim, I'm with you all the way.
And to declare him non compassmentis and to say I
reject these pardons. He's not mentally right to be able
to do these pardons. I look, we've hit it for
too long, We've avoided it for too long. Jeff Cooner
Boston's Bulldozer six one seven two six six sixty eight

(17:40):
sixty eight. All right, just to give all of you
the absolute latest on the transition that is already actually beginning.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
So JD.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Vance and his wonderful wife have now actually gone to
the White House. So they're actually now at the White House.
They've met Kamla and the First General Doug m Off,
and Trump has now just finished his service at Saint
John's and apparently he is on his way to meet

(18:10):
I kid, you not with Joe Biden and Jill Biden?
Or is Nancy Pelosi's other meeting right now? Okay, so
forget being on the Oh yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, he's
at Blair House. Trump is at Blair House waiting to
go to the White House to meet with Joe Biden
and Jill Biden, who Nancy Pelosi's daughter is now called

(18:35):
Jill mcbiden Lady mc biden after of course, Lady macbeth.
So I'd love to be a fly on the wall.
Oh in that meeting where Trump meets Joey, say, ad,
Joe you just couldn't help yourself.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Eh.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yeah, they gave me one final middle finger on your
way out at Joey. So anyway, they're going to meet
and then after that they're heading to the capital for
President Trump to be sworn in at hegh noon six
one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Let's

(19:13):
go to Ginger Betty. She is in Washington, DC for
the inauguration. She's actually calling us from a prayer breakfast.
Ginger Betty, how.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
Are you hey, JF great great, how are you happy? Inauguration.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Okay, happy inauguration day. Uh, Ginger, Betty. I'm going to
ask you obviously about the festivities and the ambiance, the
atmosphere there, But how do you feel and the people
that you've spoken to about Biden's shocking decision this morning
unprecedented to issue a series of sweeping preemptive pardons for Millie,

(19:53):
for Fauci, for Liz Cheney, for everybody on the January
sixth committee, and every Capitol Hill Police officer involved in
January sixth and every Metropolitan Police officer involved in January sixth?

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Are people upset? Are they outraged?

Speaker 5 (20:13):
You know, Jeff, I'll tell you, I really didn't even hear.
This is the first time turning on the radio. We've
been here since like six We've been trying to get
through the city, and like, I mean, everything is in
super lockdown. We were outside for like so long, but
we're in the prayer breakfast now. I mean, you just
knew it. You knew something else was gonna come out.

(20:33):
I Mean, it's just these people are just totally insane.
They're totally mad, they're jealous, they're miserable, and they're losing
power and so they have to do everything they can.
So I guess it was kind of expected. I think
we expected it, but the mood here is unbelievable. People
are out in the streets. I mean it's everyone's so

(20:56):
happy to be here, even you know, regardless of the
frigid weather and stuff like this. I'm at the Waldorf
and I think, you know, we're going to have a
watch party here.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
So it's just amazing.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
Everybody's happy. You know, you just look at the people
and in there. It's absolutely amazing. And then I have tickets.
I'm so excited to the Commander in chief ball tonight.
So I'm going to be giving out some of our
cookie Commander in Chief Ginger Donald flag cookie. So the
spirit is alive and kicking. I mean, he's going to
do whatever he can, you know, but nobody can stop this.

(21:29):
The magic that's here at this prayer breakfast. I mean, red,
white and blue, it's shining. It's just it's so amazing
to be a part of this history.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Gid your baby, how do you feel?

Speaker 1 (21:41):
And the people you you know, you've spoken to that
it was so cold that they had to move it
indoors the actual inauguration into the rotunda. Are people disappointed
or do they think that's the right move?

Speaker 5 (21:56):
People are disappointed. It's like, you know, you hear in
stories people are flying in all over the from all
over the country and stuff. But you know, he had
to make a decision. I mean it's freezing outside in
all I could hear was people singing. People really are
making the best of it. I mean, just sure, there's
a lot of disappointment and stuff like that, but Trump
had to make the decision, and you know what he did,

(22:18):
and everybody's rolling with it. You know, we'll get messages
all over Oh, come meet over here. People are making
do and they're so proud to be Americans. I just
met a priest from Haitia, past or rather and you
know him and his wife. It's just it's amazing, you know,
as much disappointment as there is, that everybody celebrating. They're

(22:41):
so happy that Trump is in. And I mean, can
I just tell you the one takeaway from last night
was him in the village on the stage. I mean,
what president does that. He is just a president of
the people for the people. He has so much love
for our country and I just want to embrace it
and soak it all and with all these other proud patriots.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Amen, Ginger Beaty, I want to thank you for calling in.
Thank you for everything you've done for the last four year,
really the last ten years, but it's partly the last
four years. You've been a stalwart Trump's supporter, and really,
this is your night. It's our night, but it's also
your night. Enjoy the inauguration, enjoy the ball. I hope

(23:26):
you meet him, shake his hand again, and from all
of us, Cooner country, you're representing us, give him a
big thank you from all of us, Ginger Betty, and
please be safe and have a lot of fun tonight.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Thank you, Ginger Betty.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
God bless you. You know I love it. They're not
going to let this spoil their day, and they shouldn't
let it spoil their day. This is our day, this
is America's day, and don't worry. We'll kick Biden's ass.
Don't worry about it.
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