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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, this is from By the way, you can text
the cooner man seven zero four seven zero seven zero
four seven zero. This is from nine to one seven.
I know nine one seven die hard Maga America first
to his core, a huge Trump supporter. He's a very
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good friend of mine. And this is what he texted me, Jeff.
Messaging is essential, especially when it's authentic. Team Trump and
especially President Trump himself. Must hammer two points again and again.
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And both are related to affordability. The first, and this
is so true. Creating prosperity takes time. It takes a
generation to carve a homestead from willlderness, to clear the land,
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construct a barn and a home. It takes only an
hour to burn it all down. Obama and Biden burned
it down by opening the border and then borrowing to
fund the massive debt. Prosperity will not be rebuilt in
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an hour. The leftist plan to make life quote unquote
affordable is to take that is, to confiscate from those
who have saved and built, and give to those who
did not, like a thief in the night. The conservative
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plan is to make that is to create an economy
in which everyone who so desires can prosper, but that
takes time. Nine one seven. I don't get me wrong.
I only have eyes for my wife. I love you
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in a non sexual way, my friend. That That's what
I've been trying to say now for I don't know
how many months. Give de man some time. The one
big beautiful bill, the deregulation, the trillions of dollars in
investments that are coming back, the tariffs, everything, the interest
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rates starting to come down, will get your own Powell
out eventually. It takes time. But when it but when
this thing clicks, and it will click, it's gonna skyrocket.
Agree disagree. Six one seven two six six sixty eight
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sixty eight is the number Sal in Merrimac. Thanks for
holding sal and welcome.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Trump has to start doing some fireside chats like back
in the old days. His people are listening. Please get
Trump on a Monday or Tuesday night so like the
next couple of months and talk about what he wants
to do for the economy to ease people's pains and anxieties.
I think that's the best way you can kind of
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wrap this back around to help the American people. I
don't know what your thoughts are on that I love it.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I've been urging him to do that. In a way,
they're doing what you're recommending, Sal, not quite the way
you want, but that's why they've got him now. He's
doing speech after speech. In fact, I'm going to play
a little bit of his speech in Pennsylvania yesterday. But
they've got him now barnstorming around the country. And the
reason is they want to set the narrative saying we're
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not we're losing the pr war. And so, you know,
let the president go on and talk about affordability, is
economic plan, what it's accomplished, what it's going to continue
to accomplish, and just keep talking to the American people
and so but no, I'd like something. I agree with you.
I'd like something regular, weekly, maybe even twice a week, whatever,
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a video, whatever, an address to the country. I mean,
they're very creative. They can come up with something. But
he's got to start talking to the American people. I
agree with you, Sal. I want to ask you this
from your perspective, your life, your experience. Are prices still
too high in your view? And are you happy with
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the pace of deportations? And let me even throw in
a third, are you happy with Pam BONDI in terms
of making arrests of corrupt democrats, real deep state criminals,
in other words, real accountability for all of the crimes
of the last five six years, because let's be honest,
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that's what we really voted for. I mean, I know
people voted for Trump for many reasons, but it was
get inflation down, get the economy booming, secure the border,
deport the illegals, and start really draining the swamp. In
your view, is he delivering.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Pam Bonding. I'm gonna go right straight to Pam body
after I talked about a couple other things. Pam Bonding
has a political aspiration. That's why she's not prosecuting a
lot of the people she's supposed to be prosecuting, because
she has an agenda. You can obviously see that. She
goes on Fox and she's really not doing too much.
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But if Trump gets rid of for her, it would
take her him months to replace her.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
That's a good point, sal Can you please hang on? Okay,
big defeat for Republicans. Yesterday this was in Miami. A socialist,
I swear to you, full blown socialist, a la Zoran
Mamdani or Michelle Wu or there's Katie Wilson out in Seattle.
It's everywhere now, I mean, it's these progressive Democrats, socialists
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who are winning election after election. This time it was
in deep red state Florida. Now Miami's always been blue,
but it was the margin of victory. It was a
disaster for Republicans. Most of them didn't even bother to vote.
And when pressed and asked, they said they're not happy
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with Trump. They want to send him a message. They
say he's focused way too much on issues abroad. He
needs to focus a lot more on home issues. At home,
they say prices are way too high, affordability is a
real problem, and they say he's got to intensify the deportations,
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way too many illegals. They want more, and they want
him to focus more on crime, inflation, affordability, lowering costs, jobs,
the economy, and of course getting as many illegals out
as possible. And so they feel that his presidency, this
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is what they're saying Republicans, is a drift and they
wanted to send him a message. Do you agree, so,
all of you, this is to me, the ultimate barometer,
the ultimate test in your life, in your home, in
your experience, our prices weight are still way too high.
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Are you not happy with the economy? Are you not
happy with say crime? Are you not happy with the
pace of deportations and illegal immigration? Do you feel that
the president is spending too much time and attention on
foreign policy and really needs to focus on America? First
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six one seven, two, sixty six, sixty eight sixty eight
Russ in Boston, Thanks for holding Russ and welcome, How.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Old Jeff Russ?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Go ahead?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Okay, First of all, Jeff, I'm really sick and tired
of listening to people that don't know any better. They
get sucked in by the propaganda. Okay, Trump is doing
all the right things. Everything he's doing is going to
work out for the United States in the long run.
First of all, is far the world stage is concerned,
China wants to control the world. Either we get the
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countries to the world to line up with us, or
they line up with China. Okay, countries who always go
with the strongest country around for their own survival. So
that's number one. That's on the international stage. What he's
doing on the local stage, Okay, As far as economy
is concerned, just like that, that Texas said, it's a
lot easier to destroy something than it is to fix it.
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And believe me when I say this, under those two sobs,
Obama and Biden, the country was on the shot road
to destruction. And anyone that doesn't see that is blind.
You're politically stupid. That's all of this is to it.
You are politically stupid. Okay. So President Trump is doing
all the right things. And I've said this before. Okay,
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it's either there's two choices here. It's either Trump or communism. Okay. Now,
if you want to live into communism and destroy everything
that's in this country, in the way of life and
everything else, you vote for the Democrats again and you
let them come to power. And it's deaf to the
United States of America, without question. Okay, you have to
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be politically stupid to see that. And Jeff, for the
last sixty years, I've been watching what these sobs have
been doing, what they did to us and reporting in
the Vietnam War and everything else, nothing but lies in propaganda.
And I'm telling you, Jeff, I was so happy when
President Trump came to power again and then he put
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together the greatest cabinet that i've ever seen in my
lifetime that we're finally going to get the train back
on the right road again, and all they're doing is
destroying it. And I'll tell you, when I listened to
the eleven jackasses that represent us in Washington here in Massachusetts,
they'll either turn coats, okay, or communists, one or the other.
I'm telling you, I just can't stand them. There isn't
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a DM one that I can stand, you know. And
I'm so titled reading the propaganda. It's just nothing but
a bunch of lives. Please back Donald Trump. Don't make
the mistake of listening to the frauds and the media
and the rotten a holes in the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Russ I agree with you, my friend, my brother from
another mother, not one hundred but one thousand percent, as
I like to say. But I want to ask you
this the one complaint I'm getting now, it's deafening, okay,
It's coming from everywhere, And I'm not trying to influence
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your answer. I just want to preface it so that
you understand where I'm coming from. Is there's a real disillusionment.
It's not with Trump. I guess maybe Trump is not
I think people are expressing a little bit of anger
with Trump. But it's not his fault and they know it.
It's the Republican Congress. They're calling it now to do
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nothing Congress. They're very unhappy with Mike Johnson. They're very
unhappy with the Republican leadership. For example, they're going to
vote soon on some kind of a replacement for Obamacare.
There's not much of a replacement for Obamacare. And so
I'm just giving you this as an example that many
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Trump supporters are saying, the Republican Congress were given a
majority and they're squandering it. They're not doing anything with it.
They're not outside of the one big beautiful Bill and
Russ you know better than anybody. Trump almost had to
like push them into it. You're like, you know, like
drag them kicking is come on, come on, we're gonna
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pass this. But what they're saying is they've passed nothing
on voter integrity and a national ide. Nothing. They don't
I mean, how many days and what twelve, twelve, thirteen
years since Obamacare was passed and the Republicans don't have
a replace a replacement for that, Like they're saying, this
is scandalous. They haven't passed anything regarding immigration. Yes, Trump
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is deporting, but this could all be undone very quickly.
So they haven't passed an immigration bill that would really
secure the borders and cut back even legal immigration in
this country to help drive up wages. So what they're
saying is no immigration bills, no voter ID bills, no
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bills on election integrity, basically nothing really concrete on healthcare,
and healthcare costs our skyrocketing. This is a Congress that
has done nothing and will do nothing, and they're going
to squander the majority if they continue. I'm just curious,
what say you.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Well, first of all, Jeff, let's put it this way. Okay,
my supplemental health insurance when I'm sixteen percent this year, Okay, Well,
i was starving the first of the year, and you
tell me about Obamacare. And also I'm telling you I'm
so sick and tired of people being sucked into propaganda
all together's nothing from lies from the Democratic Party in
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the media. Okay. Now, that's my supplemental health insurance. My
long term care insurance now is up to eighth dollars
a year. Jeff, I'm telling you I'm spending most of
my money on insurance and it's just outrageous, okay. And
you know, I'm a responsible citizen and I never sucked
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off the production of others or the government or anyone else.
My wife and I have always been self sufficient in
everything else, and we've done everything to protect ourselves. And
yet you have these leaches across the country. They want
to get everything for nothing. And my wife and I
have paid for the nose for everything, and we have
good health care and everything else because we make sacrifices
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and we put that as a priority and we don't
expect the government to pay for it. You know, our
family were brought up to be self sufficient and not
to suck off the production of others. So, Jeff, I'm
discussed in no matter which you say, it's not now
as far as the Congress is concerned. This look, I
was happy with that big, beautiful bill. They've done a
lot of great things. Have they done enough? No? Okay,
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But I'm not going to start land blast on them.
It's just like the idiots in the environmental movement, okay,
that they have these young people believing that we haven't
done anything. Jeff, what we've done in the environment since
I've been a kid is but unbelievable changed. We've changed
things of how we're doing. The environment is much cleaner,
it's much better. But listen to the media. They never
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say that. They never tell a history of the truth,
and people at their attention to history is last Night's
newbras the news broadcast. They can be stuck in anything.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Well, I agree, you know, I got to say, russ
we have the cleanest US in Canada, right, I mean,
that's because that's true. It's just North America. We have
the cleanest economy in the history of the world. And
you're right that. Look, I remember the environment used to
be much worse forty fifty years ago, Like when I
was a younger kid. There was more pollution. There just
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was you know, and and and so many other things.
The environment has gotten cleaner and cleaner and cleaner to
the point you cannot It's almost impossible to get a
cleaner economy than us. And you're right, the media never
acknowledges this. The other thing I would say is give
Trump some more time, let him work over. Mike Johnson
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and the Republicans like it. You know, they're all acting
like it's November twenty twenty six. Now, okay, I promise,
I want to go right back to the phone lines,
but I just want to play a one cut from Trump.
This was him in Pennsylvania. He's going on a sort
of an affordability tour, talking primarily about the economy, about
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his plans for the economy, what they've done, what they
plan to do. But Trump is also making a corollary argument.
You can, I guess phrase it like this. He's saying
immigration is tied to the economy, and in a nutshell,
Trump's argument, and he's completely right, is that every issue
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is a affected by illegal immigration, unlimited third world immigration,
whether it's healthcare, welfare, schools, rent, cost of housing, everything, everything.
If you're going to pour in fifteen to twenty million
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illegals unvetted from the Third world, primarily, well that's you're
straining the healthcare system. Cost go up, schools cost go up,
rental market, housing market, everything goes up. If you start
cutting off all of this third world immigration, this illegal immigration,
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well then you've got more apartments available, more homes available.
You've got less welfare payments going out the window and
being wasted on illegals. You've got less healthcare money being diverted.
It's not straining all of these budgets. In other words,
according to Trump, it's all tied together and so and
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you know, he goes, look, Biden brought in twenty million A.
I can't get them all out in ten months, especially
with the courts trying to block me, the sanctuary state governors,
the sanctuary city mayors, the anti ICE activists. It's trench warfare.
It's almost neighborhood by neighborhood. We get an ICE, some
ICE agents in and they're being pepper sprayed and teargased
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and shot at and attacked. So what Trump is saying
is I need time. But it's all connected. So listen
to Trump. This is him in Pennsylvania saying, I have
now announced a permanent pause, a moratorium on third world immigration,
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especially nineteen countries. It's gonna be up to thirty soon
on hell holes like Somalia, Afghanistan, Iran, you name it,
roll cut eleven, Mike.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
I've also announced a permanent pause on third world migration,
including from hell holes like Afghanistan, Haiti, Somalia and many
other countries.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I didn't say you did, so someone in the crowd.
I can't say it on the air, either I'm gonna
get fine, but a crap hole, right, you know that
famous term that Trump used in the first term. Anyway,
So but I can't say it. But anyway, so someone
shouted out, you know, shole a crap hole, and Trump's like, hey,
you didn't say you said it. I didn't say it.
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But basically he's saying, look, we're gonna put a moratorium.
Now many and MAGA are saying, that's great, we love it,
keep going. But why aren't there Republicans passing an immigration
bill that would codify this into law. Because this can
go at any time. It can go any time Democrats
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come back to power, they can reverse it and open
the floodgates again. So I'm just now We're going to
get into this in much greater detail tomorrow, I promise
on the show. But this is part of the complaint, now,
you know. My argument is give the guy, give him
some time. He wants an immigration bill. He's going to
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push Johnson to try to pass an immigration bill. Anyway.
My question to you is your life better or worse
under Trump over the last ten months, and what is
your perception of the economy and overall how you are doing.
Are you happy or do you think he's focusing too
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much on foreign affairs and issues abroad? Six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Who you want
me to go to next? Mike Frank in Wooburn. Thanks
for holding, Frank, and welcome.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Good morning, Jeff.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I'm very good? How are you? Frank?
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Not too bad? You know what I find amazing. You
call yourself the Boston Bulldozer, but that's incorrect. I say
you are the New England Bulldoza. But now I'm giving
you another upgrade, calling you the Northeast Bulldozer.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Thank you, Frank, You're being very nice. I thought, honestly,
the way you started. You know, you call yourself Boston's Bulldozer.
I honestly, we thought you were going to going in
a different direction. I thought you were gonna call me
Boston's bs sir. It just, you know, like that's usually
what I get from the left, Like you call yourself
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the bulldozer, you're the bser. But thank you. I really
appreciate that's very kind of you. Frank.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Well, I'd like an upgrade. I'm being honest with you,
not kind honest with you.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. What do you make
what do you make of all this? Frank as a
Trump supporter, as a Trump voter, are you happy not happy?
With his first ten months in office?
Speaker 6 (22:41):
The funny thing is I say the same thing you do.
The Biden administration. They screwed up this country so bad.
I agree with you one thousand percent. This can't be
done quick. I know we'd like to get done quick,
but there's at least twenty million illegals in this They
can't get him out fast. I mean, they got to
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get him out as fast as they can, but he's
got so many people not working with him in the government.
So I totally understand. And you know what it's you
know what's so odd. I've been listening to you for
ten years and I might have missed two shows only
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in ten years. I have you on the radio every
day from six in the morning to ten in the morning,
and then I shut it off. And I'm going to
tell you something else. You alone are the one that
makes WIKO great.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Thank you, Frank, I truly appreciate it. God bless you,
and thank you very much, and have a merry Christmas.
My friend. Uh six one seven two six six, sixty eight.
Sixty eight is the number. Uh. Look to me, Look,
it's not fair to expect Trump to undo really not
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just four years of Biden, but it was really Obama's
third term that was a disaster. It's not fair. You
can't undo all this in ten months. We're asking for two,
I think. But again, I want to hear everybody, please,
And Grace is coming up in a couple of minutes.
Believe me, you're gonna hear the other side because she
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thinks he's made mistakes and she's not happy with the
way he's handling some things of the economy and anyway,
so doctor Grace is warming up, So you're gonna hear
the other side. But I want to hear from everybody.
But I think, look, I say this over and over.
It's so much easier to destroy than it is to build.
And you know that previous texture. How long it takes
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to build a home, you know, especially in the wilderness,
a homestead, you know, it takes a generation. You can
burn it all down in an hour. You know, look
at a vase, okay, or look at a beautiful cup
or whatever. It takes a lot to be something like that.
It takes knowledge, It takes skill, it takes time, it
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takes patience. You can destroy it in a second. You
just grab it and throw it on the ground. So
building something is hard, Destroying something is easy. And all
Biden and Obama did was destroy, destroy, destroy, And again,
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I want to remind people Trump is not just undoing Biden.
He's doing undoing forty years of globalism, forty years of
Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, the disastrous trade deals,
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the disastrous immigration policy, the open borders, the endless wars.
He's trying to undo forty years. You can't expect a
man to do it in ten months. Yes he's a
force of nature, but he's not superman. Carol in Bridge,
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I mean agreed, disagree. I mean I want to hear
from everybody. Carol in Bridgewater. Thanks for holding Carol, and welcome.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
Hi Jeff, Hi Carol.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
It's great to hear from you.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
Good to talk to you and get through. But besides that,
I agree with Ruff to an extent, except for he's
given the populace too much credit to understand. This is
a very emotional time for a lot of people. We're
all trying to survive. Unless you make good money, you know,
so we're living in this economy and they hear him
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talk about things like, you know, I've solved eight wars,
I've solved all this. I mean, I'm proud of what
he's done, but he's not talking about us. And you know,
people tend to be a little self centered and could
of myself when it comes to save America first, you know,
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but we do need him to start to think about
maybe setting up new presidents and going into Congress and
having maybe something where they discuss things like they do
the cabinet and stuff instead of heaven it be legislation
and him trying their influence or get them on camera
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on their positions so that people really see that it's
Congress and not him. You know, he needs to really
kind of start to talk to us more, even if
it's more like every week, just kind of giving us
an update as to where things are sending vance and
maybe to sometimes hear hardball things with them and come
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back so that.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
He doesn't look like he's the dictator. What say you?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
You know, Carol, look, a lot of you have been
not just you, has been others. But I think it's
a brilliant suggestion. I think he's got to take a
page out of FDR's playbook. I do now. You know
FDR used radio for his weekly fireside chats. We live
in a television age or a video age or or whatever.
But he's got to start every week. I think he's
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got to get his message out. He's got to talk
to the American people. I think he should have on
camera discussions with Mike Johnson and John Thune and say, look,
why isn't this bill being put forward? I want this
bill that contains whatever xyz these provisions. Why don't I
have a voter integrity bill? How come we want to
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have we need to have honest elections. The midterms are coming.
Why haven't you passed that? No, no, no, no, I
got great executive orders on immigration. I want an immigration bill.
I want you to pass it. In other words, just
go point by point. You mean to tell me, after
twelve years, we don't have a bill to repeal and
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replace Obamacare. Fully, are you kidding me? I want this
on my desk in thirty days, no excuses. I think
he needs to start to do that. And you're right,
you know his secret weapon was us, the people. He
used to talk to us. I don't know what's going on,
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and I hope his people are listening. But you know,
he could talk to us again. What I mean is
put pressure on Congress. I need this, put pressure on
your representative. I need this, or I need that. And
he can get around the media, and he can get
around the swamp, and he can get around the corrupt establishment,
even within his own party. But it's almost like they've
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got him isolated up there. And anyway, look, I'm worried
about the midterms. Yeah it's not him, Yeah from the
guy from Oklahoma. It's a different man, only five inches shorter.
But whatever it is. Now he's back on the campaign trail.
He's out there talking. That's good, but I want him
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to do even more because I agree with you, Carol,
the stakes now are just too high. Carol, thank you
so much for that call. Okay, here's the other side,
doctor Grace, putting liberals in their place. Doctor Grace Vuoto,
my wonderful wife married up. She voted for Trump three times,
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no question. She's a Magas supporter kind of, but she's
one of those people that will relate to the Republicans
in Miami. She's not happy with the state of the economy,
She's not happy with the cost of living, she doesn't
believe Trump has followed through on some of his key promises,
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and that he's too distracted by events abroad. Grace, I
never want to speak for you, but that I sum
up your position accurately.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Beginning of the position. Thank you, Jeff. I really appreciate
being on your show. And listen, let me just give
some clarity to everybody that's asking themselves what has happened
to Donald Trump in the second term. It's two big
things that are very different from the first term. When
I voted for him in twenty twenty four, I just
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wanted another Trump one point, oh, just press repeat. But
I didn't get that, and why did we not get that?
It was two big things happened. The first thing is
is that in the first election, Trump only had about
twenty four percent of campaign funds from big donors. But
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in twenty twenty four, seventy percent of large campaign contributions
came from big donors. And that explains a lot of
what is different in the second term. And the second
thing that changed big time. I never voted for him
to go so big, so grand on the tariffs, Jeff,
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the most damaging policy mistake that he made in the
second term was that it was the timing and the
scope of the tariffs. I said it then, because I'm
in business. I saw the phones dry up immediately. And
still the trade deals are all over the place. We
were promised ninety deals in ninety days. That never happened.
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We have fifteen trade deals. Many of them are just frameworks,
and it's the tariffs are shifting every day. Business can't
move like this. So it's not that you haven't focused
on the economy. The policies are erroneous. He needs a
course correction on the tariff policy immediately, immediately. What he
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did in the first term was a mild artist tariff regime.
This was massive and as I said then, I said,
we're not ready for it, and I've been proven right
because many of us have lost one full year of
productivity now and if you replicate that over millions, it
is the reason that the economy isn't moving.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Grace, I just want to go back. You know, you
and I disagree on the tariffs. I don't want to
rehash that, but I respect your position and again you
always express it very articulately, no question, but I want
to go back to your first point. That's a very
interesting point. Are you essentially saying, again, I don't want
to put words in your mouth, but that he's become
beholden to big donors in a way in his second
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term that he wasn't in the first term.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
Yes, And I think that's why many of us look.
If you go back and you listen to him how
he was speaking in twenty twenty four and you listen
to him now, it's almost like two different people. Sometimes
I'm like, I don't recognize this person. And remember Marjorie
Taylor Green when she stepped away, she said something that
really just hit me in the gut. She said, it
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almost doesn't matter who we vote for, the results are
the same. And I was asking myself, well, why is that? Because, Jeff,
the truth of the matter is it's not just that
we're facing a UNI party anymore, because MAGA now took
control of the Republican Party. And yet even with MAGA
dominating everything, many of us feel that the middle class
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doesn't get ahead. It's because we have an oligarchy. Now,
this is the problem. Our democracy has descended into an oligarchy.
And the fact that there was so much campaign money
coming from the donors. It has changed the scope of
his second term dramatically. And basically, look what he did.
We've got to look at his actions. He called Mandor
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Taylor Green a trader for what for asking that fourteen
year old girls not be raped by billionaires? And he
called her a trader for that. That's It's not the
Trump of twenty twenty four. That's not the Trump that
I voted for. So he's beholden to this big money
that he's protecting now with the Epstein file. So we
see that very clearly, and all of you who think
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there's going to be arrest there's not going to be
big arrests because the deep state is in bed with
the pedophile ring. So he's blocked.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Now.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
This is the big difference, and anybody who speaks out
against it is branded a trader?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Are you kidding me, Grace when you say big donors.
I have to push you on this or press you
on this, because you're right. This is something that I
don't know if I agree with you, but I'm saying
you're right in the sense of the criticism that's coming
now from Marjorie Taylor Green and from Tucker Carlson and
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from Steve Bannon. These are some of his most loyal
or at least they were some of his most loyal supporters,
the heart of the MAGA base. And they're saying that
he's caved on is that he's getting now. You know me,
I'm very pro Israel. I backed Trump all the way.
I backed the bombing of Iran and four doh and
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the nuclear facility. I support Israel in the struggle with
the Palestinians. But that's me, okay. Tucker Carlson is against,
Marjorie Taylor Green was dead set against Bannon, was against
They're saying that he's got too many Let's be frank.
This is what they say, powerful Jewish or pro Israel
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donors who have given him a lot of money, and
that he delivered for them on the Israel issue and
on the Iran issue. But they're saying that distracted him
from his America First agenda.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
Do you agree, Jess No, I hate this focus on
Israel so much, you know, I think this is just
so bizarre. It just strikes me as odd. When I
say big donors, I'm talking about he's beholding to big tech,
big pharma, big business and not focusing on the middle class,
to the point that if you ask him how good
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the economy is, he said, it's a plus plus plus
plus plus. Are you kidding me? I just you know.
I went through a Starbucks and I say, oh, hi
to this young woman, how you doing. I'm working six
days a week. Okay, she's got tears in her eyes,
but I'm living with my mother's the mother of my boyfriend,
because we can't afford a place. Obviously she can't stand
the mother because she's our tears in her eyes. Right,
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But this is a young person who is stuck, stuck.
And I see this all the time. And Trump is
telling me that the economy is a plus plus plus
because big tech is happy, big farm is happy, big
business is happy. And he's meeting these donors all the time,
so much so that if he said I want a
big ballroom, they give him four hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Z shazzim, doctor Grace, tell me how you really feel? Okay, well,
obviously I disagree with you. I don't think it's nowhere
near as dire as you And you're a Starbucks friend
Okay, this is from By the way, you can text
the cooner man seven zero four seven zero seven zero
four seven zero. This is from nine to one seven.
I know nine one seven die hard Maga America first
to his core, a huge Trump supporter. He's a very
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good friend of mine. And this is what he texted me, Jeff.
Messaging is essential, especially when it's authentic. Team Trump and
especially President Trump himself. Must hammer two points again and again.
(00:42):
And both are related to affordability. The first, and this
is so true. Creating prosperity takes time. It takes a
generation to carve a homestead from willlderness, to clear the land,
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construct a barn and a home. It takes only an
hour to burn it all down. Obama and Biden burned
it down by opening the border and then borrowing to
fund the massive debt. Prosperity will not be rebuilt in
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an hour. The leftist plan to make life quote unquote
affordable is to take that is, to confiscate from those
who have saved and built, and give to those who
did not, like a thief in the night. The conservative
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plan is to make that is to create an economy
in which everyone who so desires can prosper, but that
takes time. Nine one seven. I don't get me wrong.
I only have eyes for my wife. I love you
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in a non sexual way, my friend. That That's what
I've been trying to say now for I don't know
how many months. Give de man some time. The one
big beautiful bill, the deregulation, the trillions of dollars in
investments that are coming back, the tariffs, everything, the interest
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rates starting to come down, will get your own Powell
out eventually. It takes time. But when it but when
this thing clicks, and it will click, it's gonna skyrocket.
Agree disagree. Six one seven two six six sixty eight
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sixty eight is the number Sal in Merrimac. Thanks for
holding sal and welcome.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Trump has to start doing some fireside chats like back
in the old days. His people are listening. Please get
Trump on a Monday or Tuesday night so like the
next couple of months and talk about what he wants
to do for the economy to ease people's pains and anxieties.
I think that's the best way you can kind of
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wrap this back around to help the American people. I
don't know what your thoughts are on that I love it.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I've been urging him to do that. In a way,
they're doing what you're recommending, Sal, not quite the way
you want, but that's why they've got him now. He's
doing speech after speech. In fact, I'm going to play
a little bit of his speech in Pennsylvania yesterday. But
they've got him now barnstorming around the country. And the
reason is they want to set the narrative saying we're
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not we're losing the pr war. And so, you know,
let the president go on and talk about affordability, is
economic plan, what it's accomplished, what it's going to continue
to accomplish, and just keep talking to the American people
and so but no, I'd like something. I agree with you.
I'd like something regular, weekly, maybe even twice a week, whatever,
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a video, whatever, an address to the country. I mean,
they're very creative. They can come up with something. But
he's got to start talking to the American people. I
agree with you, Sal. I want to ask you this
from your perspective, your life, your experience. Are prices still
too high in your view? And are you happy with
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the pace of deportations? And let me even throw in
a third, are you happy with Pam BONDI in terms
of making arrests of corrupt democrats, real deep state criminals,
in other words, real accountability for all of the crimes
of the last five six years, because let's be honest,
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that's what we really voted for. I mean, I know
people voted for Trump for many reasons, but it was
get inflation down, get the economy booming, secure the border,
deport the illegals, and start really draining the swamp. In
your view, is he delivering.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Pam Bonding. I'm gonna go right straight to Pam body
after I talked about a couple other things. Pam Bonding
has a political aspiration. That's why she's not prosecuting a
lot of the people she's supposed to be prosecuting, because
she has an agenda. You can obviously see that. She
goes on Fox and she's really not doing too much.
(05:57):
But if Trump gets rid of for her, it would
take her him months to replace her.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
That's a good point, sal Can you please hang on? Okay,
big defeat for Republicans. Yesterday this was in Miami. A socialist,
I swear to you, full blown socialist, a la Zoran
Mamdani or Michelle Wu or there's Katie Wilson out in Seattle.
It's everywhere now, I mean, it's these progressive Democrats, socialists
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who are winning election after election. This time it was
in deep red state Florida. Now Miami's always been blue,
but it was the margin of victory. It was a
disaster for Republicans. Most of them didn't even bother to vote.
And when pressed and asked, they said they're not happy
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with Trump. They want to send him a message. They
say he's focused way too much on issues abroad. He
needs to focus a lot more on home issues. At home,
they say prices are way too high, affordability is a
real problem, and they say he's got to intensify the deportations,
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way too many illegals. They want more, and they want
him to focus more on crime, inflation, affordability, lowering costs, jobs,
the economy, and of course getting as many illegals out
as possible. And so they feel that his presidency, this
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is what they're saying Republicans, is a drift and they
wanted to send him a message. Do you agree, so,
all of you, this is to me, the ultimate barometer,
the ultimate test in your life, in your home, in
your experience, our prices weight are still way too high.
(07:53):
Are you not happy with the economy? Are you not
happy with say crime? Are you not happy with the
pace of deportations and illegal immigration? Do you feel that
the president is spending too much time and attention on
foreign policy and really needs to focus on America? First
(08:15):
six one seven, two, sixty six, sixty eight sixty eight
Russ in Boston, Thanks for holding Russ and welcome, How.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Old Jeff Russ?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Go ahead?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Okay, First of all, Jeff, I'm really sick and tired
of listening to people that don't know any better. They
get sucked in by the propaganda. Okay, Trump is doing
all the right things. Everything he's doing is going to
work out for the United States in the long run.
First of all, is far the world stage is concerned,
China wants to control the world. Either we get the
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countries to the world to line up with us, or
they line up with China. Okay, countries who always go
with the strongest country around for their own survival. So
that's number one. That's on the international stage. What he's
doing on the local stage, Okay, As far as economy
is concerned, just like that, that Texas said, it's a
lot easier to destroy something than it is to fix it.
(09:15):
And believe me when I say this, under those two sobs,
Obama and Biden, the country was on the shot road
to destruction. And anyone that doesn't see that is blind.
You're politically stupid. That's all of this is to it.
You are politically stupid. Okay. So President Trump is doing
all the right things. And I've said this before. Okay,
(09:37):
it's either there's two choices here. It's either Trump or communism. Okay. Now,
if you want to live into communism and destroy everything
that's in this country, in the way of life and
everything else, you vote for the Democrats again and you
let them come to power. And it's deaf to the
United States of America, without question. Okay, you have to
(09:58):
be politically stupid to see that. And Jeff, for the
last sixty years, I've been watching what these sobs have
been doing, what they did to us and reporting in
the Vietnam War and everything else, nothing but lies in propaganda.
And I'm telling you, Jeff, I was so happy when
President Trump came to power again and then he put
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together the greatest cabinet that i've ever seen in my
lifetime that we're finally going to get the train back
on the right road again, and all they're doing is
destroying it. And I'll tell you, when I listened to
the eleven jackasses that represent us in Washington here in Massachusetts,
they'll either turn coats, okay, or communists, one or the other.
I'm telling you, I just can't stand them. There isn't
(10:40):
a DM one that I can stand, you know. And
I'm so titled reading the propaganda. It's just nothing but
a bunch of lives. Please back Donald Trump. Don't make
the mistake of listening to the frauds and the media
and the rotten a holes in the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Russ I agree with you, my friend, my brother from
another mother, not one hundred but one thousand percent, as
I like to say. But I want to ask you
this the one complaint I'm getting now, it's deafening, okay,
It's coming from everywhere, And I'm not trying to influence
(11:17):
your answer. I just want to preface it so that
you understand where I'm coming from. Is there's a real disillusionment.
It's not with Trump. I guess maybe Trump is not
I think people are expressing a little bit of anger
with Trump. But it's not his fault and they know it.
It's the Republican Congress. They're calling it now to do
(11:37):
nothing Congress. They're very unhappy with Mike Johnson. They're very
unhappy with the Republican leadership. For example, they're going to
vote soon on some kind of a replacement for Obamacare.
There's not much of a replacement for Obamacare. And so
I'm just giving you this as an example that many
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Trump supporters are saying, the Republican Congress were given a
majority and they're squandering it. They're not doing anything with it.
They're not outside of the one big beautiful Bill and
Russ you know better than anybody. Trump almost had to
like push them into it. You're like, you know, like
drag them kicking is come on, come on, we're gonna
(12:19):
pass this. But what they're saying is they've passed nothing
on voter integrity and a national ide. Nothing. They don't
I mean, how many days and what twelve, twelve, thirteen
years since Obamacare was passed and the Republicans don't have
a replace a replacement for that, Like they're saying, this
is scandalous. They haven't passed anything regarding immigration. Yes, Trump
(12:45):
is deporting, but this could all be undone very quickly.
So they haven't passed an immigration bill that would really
secure the borders and cut back even legal immigration in
this country to help drive up wages. So what they're
saying is no immigration bills, no voter ID bills, no
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bills on election integrity, basically nothing really concrete on healthcare,
and healthcare costs our skyrocketing. This is a Congress that
has done nothing and will do nothing, and they're going
to squander the majority if they continue. I'm just curious,
what say you.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Well, first of all, Jeff, let's put it this way. Okay,
my supplemental health insurance when I'm sixteen percent this year, Okay, Well,
i was starving the first of the year, and you
tell me about Obamacare. And also I'm telling you I'm
so sick and tired of people being sucked into propaganda
all together's nothing from lies from the Democratic Party in
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the media. Okay. Now, that's my supplemental health insurance. My
long term care insurance now is up to eighth dollars
a year. Jeff, I'm telling you I'm spending most of
my money on insurance and it's just outrageous, okay. And
you know, I'm a responsible citizen and I never sucked
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off the production of others or the government or anyone else.
My wife and I have always been self sufficient in
everything else, and we've done everything to protect ourselves. And
yet you have these leaches across the country. They want
to get everything for nothing. And my wife and I
have paid for the nose for everything, and we have
good health care and everything else because we make sacrifices
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and we put that as a priority and we don't
expect the government to pay for it. You know, our
family were brought up to be self sufficient and not
to suck off the production of others. So, Jeff, I'm
discussed in no matter which you say, it's not now
as far as the Congress is concerned. This look, I
was happy with that big, beautiful bill. They've done a
lot of great things. Have they done enough? No? Okay,
(14:58):
But I'm not going to start land blast on them.
It's just like the idiots in the environmental movement, okay,
that they have these young people believing that we haven't
done anything. Jeff, what we've done in the environment since
I've been a kid is but unbelievable changed. We've changed
things of how we're doing. The environment is much cleaner,
it's much better. But listen to the media. They never
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say that. They never tell a history of the truth,
and people at their attention to history is last Night's
newbras the news broadcast. They can be stuck in anything.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Well, I agree, you know, I got to say, russ
we have the cleanest US in Canada, right, I mean,
that's because that's true. It's just North America. We have
the cleanest economy in the history of the world. And
you're right that. Look, I remember the environment used to
be much worse forty fifty years ago, Like when I
was a younger kid. There was more pollution. There just
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was you know, and and and so many other things.
The environment has gotten cleaner and cleaner and cleaner to
the point you cannot It's almost impossible to get a
cleaner economy than us. And you're right, the media never
acknowledges this. The other thing I would say is give
Trump some more time, let him work over. Mike Johnson
(16:13):
and the Republicans like it. You know, they're all acting
like it's November twenty twenty six. Now, okay, I promise,
I want to go right back to the phone lines,
but I just want to play a one cut from Trump.
This was him in Pennsylvania. He's going on a sort
of an affordability tour, talking primarily about the economy, about
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his plans for the economy, what they've done, what they
plan to do. But Trump is also making a corollary argument.
You can, I guess phrase it like this. He's saying
immigration is tied to the economy, and in a nutshell,
Trump's argument, and he's completely right, is that every issue
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is a affected by illegal immigration, unlimited third world immigration,
whether it's healthcare, welfare, schools, rent, cost of housing, everything, everything.
If you're going to pour in fifteen to twenty million
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illegals unvetted from the Third world, primarily, well that's you're
straining the healthcare system. Cost go up, schools cost go up,
rental market, housing market, everything goes up. If you start
cutting off all of this third world immigration, this illegal immigration,
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well then you've got more apartments available, more homes available.
You've got less welfare payments going out the window and
being wasted on illegals. You've got less healthcare money being diverted.
It's not straining all of these budgets. In other words,
according to Trump, it's all tied together and so and
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you know, he goes, look, Biden brought in twenty million A.
I can't get them all out in ten months, especially
with the courts trying to block me, the sanctuary state governors,
the sanctuary city mayors, the anti ICE activists. It's trench warfare.
It's almost neighborhood by neighborhood. We get an ICE, some
ICE agents in and they're being pepper sprayed and teargased
(18:32):
and shot at and attacked. So what Trump is saying
is I need time. But it's all connected. So listen
to Trump. This is him in Pennsylvania saying, I have
now announced a permanent pause, a moratorium on third world immigration,
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especially nineteen countries. It's gonna be up to thirty soon
on hell holes like Somalia, Afghanistan, Iran, you name it,
roll cut eleven, Mike.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
I've also announced a permanent pause on third world migration,
including from hell holes like Afghanistan, Haiti, Somalia and many
other countries.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I didn't say you did, so someone in the crowd.
I can't say it on the air, either I'm gonna
get fine, but a crap hole, right, you know that
famous term that Trump used in the first term. Anyway,
So but I can't say it. But anyway, so someone
shouted out, you know, shole a crap hole, and Trump's like, hey,
you didn't say you said it. I didn't say it.
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But basically he's saying, look, we're gonna put a moratorium.
Now many and MAGA are saying, that's great, we love it,
keep going. But why aren't there Republicans passing an immigration
bill that would codify this into law. Because this can
go at any time. It can go any time Democrats
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come back to power, they can reverse it and open
the floodgates again. So I'm just now We're going to
get into this in much greater detail tomorrow, I promise
on the show. But this is part of the complaint, now,
you know. My argument is give the guy, give him
some time. He wants an immigration bill. He's going to
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push Johnson to try to pass an immigration bill. Anyway.
My question to you is your life better or worse
under Trump over the last ten months, and what is
your perception of the economy and overall how you are doing.
Are you happy or do you think he's focusing too
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much on foreign affairs and issues abroad? Six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Who you want
me to go to next? Mike Frank in Wooburn. Thanks
for holding, Frank, and welcome.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Good morning, Jeff.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I'm very good? How are you? Frank?
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Not too bad? You know what I find amazing. You
call yourself the Boston Bulldozer, but that's incorrect. I say
you are the New England Bulldoza. But now I'm giving
you another upgrade, calling you the Northeast Bulldozer.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Thank you, Frank, You're being very nice. I thought, honestly,
the way you started. You know, you call yourself Boston's Bulldozer.
I honestly, we thought you were going to going in
a different direction. I thought you were gonna call me
Boston's bs sir. It just, you know, like that's usually
what I get from the left, Like you call yourself
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the bulldozer, you're the bser. But thank you. I really
appreciate that's very kind of you. Frank.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Well, I'd like an upgrade. I'm being honest with you,
not kind honest with you.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. What do you make
what do you make of all this? Frank as a
Trump supporter, as a Trump voter, are you happy not happy?
With his first ten months in office?
Speaker 6 (22:41):
The funny thing is I say the same thing you do.
The Biden administration. They screwed up this country so bad.
I agree with you one thousand percent. This can't be
done quick. I know we'd like to get done quick,
but there's at least twenty million illegals in this They
can't get him out fast. I mean, they got to
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get him out as fast as they can, but he's
got so many people not working with him in the government.
So I totally understand. And you know what it's you
know what's so odd. I've been listening to you for
ten years and I might have missed two shows only
(23:23):
in ten years. I have you on the radio every
day from six in the morning to ten in the morning,
and then I shut it off. And I'm going to
tell you something else. You alone are the one that
makes WIKO great.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Thank you, Frank, I truly appreciate it. God bless you,
and thank you very much, and have a merry Christmas.
My friend. Uh six one seven two six six, sixty eight.
Sixty eight is the number. Uh. Look to me, Look,
it's not fair to expect Trump to undo really not
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just four years of Biden, but it was really Obama's
third term that was a disaster. It's not fair. You
can't undo all this in ten months. We're asking for two,
I think. But again, I want to hear everybody, please,
And Grace is coming up in a couple of minutes.
Believe me, you're gonna hear the other side because she
(24:22):
thinks he's made mistakes and she's not happy with the
way he's handling some things of the economy and anyway,
so doctor Grace is warming up, So you're gonna hear
the other side. But I want to hear from everybody.
But I think, look, I say this over and over.
It's so much easier to destroy than it is to build.
And you know that previous texture. How long it takes
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to build a home, you know, especially in the wilderness,
a homestead, you know, it takes a generation. You can
burn it all down in an hour. You know, look
at a vase, okay, or look at a beautiful cup
or whatever. It takes a lot to be something like that.
It takes knowledge, It takes skill, it takes time, it
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takes patience. You can destroy it in a second. You
just grab it and throw it on the ground. So
building something is hard, Destroying something is easy. And all
Biden and Obama did was destroy, destroy, destroy, And again,
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I want to remind people Trump is not just undoing Biden.
He's doing undoing forty years of globalism, forty years of
Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, the disastrous trade deals,
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the disastrous immigration policy, the open borders, the endless wars.
He's trying to undo forty years. You can't expect a
man to do it in ten months. Yes he's a
force of nature, but he's not superman. Carol in Bridge,
(26:06):
I mean agreed, disagree. I mean I want to hear
from everybody. Carol in Bridgewater. Thanks for holding Carol, and welcome.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
Hi Jeff, Hi Carol.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
It's great to hear from you.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
Good to talk to you and get through. But besides that,
I agree with Ruff to an extent, except for he's
given the populace too much credit to understand. This is
a very emotional time for a lot of people. We're
all trying to survive. Unless you make good money, you know,
so we're living in this economy and they hear him
(26:43):
talk about things like, you know, I've solved eight wars,
I've solved all this. I mean, I'm proud of what
he's done, but he's not talking about us. And you know,
people tend to be a little self centered and could
of myself when it comes to save America first, you know,
(27:03):
but we do need him to start to think about
maybe setting up new presidents and going into Congress and
having maybe something where they discuss things like they do
the cabinet and stuff instead of heaven it be legislation
and him trying their influence or get them on camera
(27:24):
on their positions so that people really see that it's
Congress and not him. You know, he needs to really
kind of start to talk to us more, even if
it's more like every week, just kind of giving us
an update as to where things are sending vance and
maybe to sometimes hear hardball things with them and come
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back so that.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
He doesn't look like he's the dictator. What say you?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
You know, Carol, look, a lot of you have been
not just you, has been others. But I think it's
a brilliant suggestion. I think he's got to take a
page out of FDR's playbook. I do now. You know
FDR used radio for his weekly fireside chats. We live
in a television age or a video age or or whatever.
But he's got to start every week. I think he's
(28:15):
got to get his message out. He's got to talk
to the American people. I think he should have on
camera discussions with Mike Johnson and John Thune and say, look,
why isn't this bill being put forward? I want this
bill that contains whatever xyz these provisions. Why don't I
have a voter integrity bill? How come we want to
(28:36):
have we need to have honest elections. The midterms are coming.
Why haven't you passed that? No, no, no, no, I
got great executive orders on immigration. I want an immigration bill.
I want you to pass it. In other words, just
go point by point. You mean to tell me, after
twelve years, we don't have a bill to repeal and
(28:56):
replace Obamacare. Fully, are you kidding me? I want this
on my desk in thirty days, no excuses. I think
he needs to start to do that. And you're right,
you know his secret weapon was us, the people. He
used to talk to us. I don't know what's going on,
(29:19):
and I hope his people are listening. But you know,
he could talk to us again. What I mean is
put pressure on Congress. I need this, put pressure on
your representative. I need this, or I need that. And
he can get around the media, and he can get
around the swamp, and he can get around the corrupt establishment,
even within his own party. But it's almost like they've
(29:43):
got him isolated up there. And anyway, look, I'm worried
about the midterms. Yeah it's not him, Yeah from the
guy from Oklahoma. It's a different man, only five inches shorter.
But whatever it is. Now he's back on the campaign trail.
He's out there talking. That's good, but I want him
(30:05):
to do even more because I agree with you, Carol,
the stakes now are just too high. Carol, thank you
so much for that call. Okay, here's the other side,
doctor Grace, putting liberals in their place. Doctor Grace Vuoto,
my wonderful wife married up. She voted for Trump three times,
(30:27):
no question. She's a Magas supporter kind of, but she's
one of those people that will relate to the Republicans
in Miami. She's not happy with the state of the economy,
She's not happy with the cost of living, she doesn't
believe Trump has followed through on some of his key promises,
(30:50):
and that he's too distracted by events abroad. Grace, I
never want to speak for you, but that I sum
up your position accurately.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Beginning of the position. Thank you, Jeff. I really appreciate
being on your show. And listen, let me just give
some clarity to everybody that's asking themselves what has happened
to Donald Trump in the second term. It's two big
things that are very different from the first term. When
I voted for him in twenty twenty four, I just
(31:24):
wanted another Trump one point, oh, just press repeat. But
I didn't get that, and why did we not get that?
It was two big things happened. The first thing is
is that in the first election, Trump only had about
twenty four percent of campaign funds from big donors. But
(31:46):
in twenty twenty four, seventy percent of large campaign contributions
came from big donors. And that explains a lot of
what is different in the second term. And the second
thing that changed big time. I never voted for him
to go so big, so grand on the tariffs, Jeff,
(32:09):
the most damaging policy mistake that he made in the
second term was that it was the timing and the
scope of the tariffs. I said it then, because I'm
in business. I saw the phones dry up immediately. And
still the trade deals are all over the place. We
were promised ninety deals in ninety days. That never happened.
(32:33):
We have fifteen trade deals. Many of them are just frameworks,
and it's the tariffs are shifting every day. Business can't
move like this. So it's not that you haven't focused
on the economy. The policies are erroneous. He needs a
course correction on the tariff policy immediately, immediately. What he
(32:57):
did in the first term was a mild artist tariff regime.
This was massive and as I said then, I said,
we're not ready for it, and I've been proven right
because many of us have lost one full year of
productivity now and if you replicate that over millions, it
is the reason that the economy isn't moving.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Grace, I just want to go back. You know, you
and I disagree on the tariffs. I don't want to
rehash that, but I respect your position and again you
always express it very articulately, no question, but I want
to go back to your first point. That's a very
interesting point. Are you essentially saying, again, I don't want
to put words in your mouth, but that he's become
beholden to big donors in a way in his second
(33:43):
term that he wasn't in the first term.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
Yes, And I think that's why many of us look.
If you go back and you listen to him how
he was speaking in twenty twenty four and you listen
to him now, it's almost like two different people. Sometimes
I'm like, I don't recognize this person. And remember Marjorie
Taylor Green when she stepped away, she said something that
really just hit me in the gut. She said, it
(34:07):
almost doesn't matter who we vote for, the results are
the same. And I was asking myself, well, why is that? Because, Jeff,
the truth of the matter is it's not just that
we're facing a UNI party anymore, because MAGA now took
control of the Republican Party. And yet even with MAGA
dominating everything, many of us feel that the middle class
(34:27):
doesn't get ahead. It's because we have an oligarchy. Now,
this is the problem. Our democracy has descended into an oligarchy.
And the fact that there was so much campaign money
coming from the donors. It has changed the scope of
his second term dramatically. And basically, look what he did.
We've got to look at his actions. He called Mandor
(34:50):
Taylor Green a trader for what for asking that fourteen
year old girls not be raped by billionaires? And he
called her a trader for that. That's It's not the
Trump of twenty twenty four. That's not the Trump that
I voted for. So he's beholden to this big money
that he's protecting now with the Epstein file. So we
see that very clearly, and all of you who think
(35:12):
there's going to be arrest there's not going to be
big arrests because the deep state is in bed with
the pedophile ring. So he's blocked.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Now.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
This is the big difference, and anybody who speaks out
against it is branded a trader?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Are you kidding me, Grace when you say big donors.
I have to push you on this or press you
on this, because you're right. This is something that I
don't know if I agree with you, but I'm saying
you're right in the sense of the criticism that's coming
now from Marjorie Taylor Green and from Tucker Carlson and
(35:47):
from Steve Bannon. These are some of his most loyal
or at least they were some of his most loyal supporters,
the heart of the MAGA base. And they're saying that
he's caved on is that he's getting now. You know me,
I'm very pro Israel. I backed Trump all the way.
I backed the bombing of Iran and four doh and
(36:09):
the nuclear facility. I support Israel in the struggle with
the Palestinians. But that's me, okay. Tucker Carlson is against,
Marjorie Taylor Green was dead set against Bannon, was against
They're saying that he's got too many Let's be frank.
This is what they say, powerful Jewish or pro Israel
(36:30):
donors who have given him a lot of money, and
that he delivered for them on the Israel issue and
on the Iran issue. But they're saying that distracted him
from his America First agenda.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
Do you agree, Jess No, I hate this focus on
Israel so much, you know, I think this is just
so bizarre. It just strikes me as odd. When I
say big donors, I'm talking about he's beholding to big tech,
big pharma, big business and not focusing on the middle class,
to the point that if you ask him how good
(37:06):
the economy is, he said, it's a plus plus plus
plus plus. Are you kidding me? I just you know.
I went through a Starbucks and I say, oh, hi
to this young woman, how you doing. I'm working six
days a week. Okay, she's got tears in her eyes,
but I'm living with my mother's the mother of my boyfriend,
because we can't afford a place. Obviously she can't stand
the mother because she's our tears in her eyes. Right,
(37:27):
But this is a young person who is stuck, stuck.
And I see this all the time. And Trump is
telling me that the economy is a plus plus plus
because big tech is happy, big farm is happy, big
business is happy. And he's meeting these donors all the time,
so much so that if he said I want a
big ballroom, they give him four hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Z shazzim, doctor Grace, tell me how you really feel? Okay, well,
obviously I disagree with you. I don't think it's nowhere
near as dire as you And you're a Starbucks friend
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