Should Trump Wait to Go into Chicago?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Chicago residents are being pillaged by crime, but the

(00:04):
mayor and governor of Illinois say crime. What crime are
you talking about? Should the President wait for an invitation
to go in and save the people, rescue the people
of Chicago? Should he apply the Insurrection Act and just
go in as opposed to waiting to be invited by
two people, Governor Pritsker and Mayor Johnson, who would rather

(00:27):
jump off a cliff than put their people first. We
were talking before the break with John from Groveland. John,
I'm sorry we were interrupted.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
To get back to get back to what I was
saying Sandy about the Blue states and cities that are
basically sanctuary beacons for legals. Let's just shine a light
on what happened here in Massachusetts. There were several reports
yesterday that I read that the DEA in sweeping raids
arrested for You're going to be a honest at this

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number forty nine Sinealoa cattel members in Massachusetts in a
seven day period. Now, how many American citizens do you
know that are members of the Cenaaloa drug COTTAEIL and
Naco terrorists that are bringing in tent and all that
are killing hundreds of thousands of citizens. That's an insurrection.

(01:21):
So brim into Boston, bring Tom Holman, ice the National
Guard into Boston, into Massachusetts, into Chicago, Maryland, Baltimore. It's
systemic in this country. And I think that if Trump
were to invoke this Insurrection Act, it would basically put

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the fear of God into every Democrat politician who sits
idly by and lets the violent crime ravage their cities,
because it's gonna just keep You know, if this, if
Trump can solve this and make America completely safe, clean
up the streets of homelessness, then who do you think

(02:03):
is going to get elected in twenty eight It's going
to be probably a Republican in Trump's footsteps, so plus
he's going to be saving Americans.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Lie.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
This is what I don't understand that why is such
a pushback. Basically right now, the Democrat Party has been
reduced to supporting crime, shootings, murders, and illegal alien criminals.
It's pathetic, to be honest with you, I.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Think it's more than pathetic, John, I think it's insane.
I think it's crazy. I mean, I mean certifiable, you know,
basically being admitted to a hospital.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
I think that's what's happening. And I think it's more
than just. And I understand, you know, political machinations. I
understand posturing and trying to put a shine on a
sneaker and maybe skewing things a little bit to make
your party look better, but that's not what this is.
This is not just a little bit of maneuvering. This

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is people dying. And you are so bound and determined
not to not to let Donald Trump take credit for anything,
because you are so desperate to hang on to your
power base. That to me is reprehensible. And the fact
that you put the power base about people's lives is

(03:29):
is got to be some form of psychosis, because it's
it's beyond it's it's just beyond rational thought. I think, John,
I'm sorry you got cut off.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
It's evil.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, yeah, I think it is evil. And it goes
right there up there, John, with rules for radicals. Do
you do you remember the that's the playbook that President
Obama followed and Hillary Clinton followed as a matter of fact,
and it's dedicated to Satan and it's basically this is
this is a this is a premmer out of if
that's a premmer for what they're doing. Now, if you

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look at it, this is what they say to do.
So no matter what, no matter what Donald Trump says,
they're gonna He could say the sky is blue and
they say, no, it's not, it's green. It's they don't care,
and they're hoping that you're too stupid to notice the difference,
or that you that you're too naive to question them
when they tell you that. So that's that's what's happening.
Thank you so much for the call, John, I really

(04:28):
appreciate it. The number is six one seven two six
six sixty eight sixty eight six one seven two six
six six eight six eight. When you hear a collar
drop off, it means a line has opened it for you.
Let's go to Paulina in Boston. Paulina, welcome to w RKO.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Thank you for having me on the show. You're welcome, Sandy.
I am so I have so much to talk about.
I was very, very depressed. I still am that. I
think President Trump should go in there full force and
save the people in Chicago and then come to Boston.

(05:06):
And you know what, the shell wrecked Boston. I've seen it.
I've seen it with my own eyes with the MBTA
going downhill. We're just going downhill. And she said she
rode the tea to work.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
No, she don't.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
She gets transported by the Boston Police. And you know
what I'm trying to say is where is the novelty?
It's not found no more. And you hit it spot
on the it's it's how to just spiritual wafere Definitely,

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it's good versus evil, Sandy, and you.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
Just nailed it. She worshiped.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
I think they all worshiped the devil Satan.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
And you know why don't. I don't think they worship
the devil. I think I think that's a bit high,
you know, hyperbolic. I think what they do who is
They don't think about the ramifications of what they're doing.
They're so focused on the what they need, which is

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their power base voters above everything else. They don't think about, well,
if I deny National Guard coming in, then somebody's going
to die. They don't think of it like that. They
think of it. I can't let the National Guard come
in because I need to protect my bower. But and
if I let them come in, I am admitting that
there's a problem, and I'm one of the people responsible
I can't do that, can't do it, And so I

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don't think they think that far ahead. I could be wrong.
Two six six eight six eight. Should President Trump wait
for an invitation to go into Chicago with the National
Guard or just go? Can the people of Chicago afford
to wait until the president's asked by the governor, because

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I don't know if the governor is ever going to
ask President Trump to come on in. This is Sandy
Shack sitting in for Jeff Cooner here on the Kooner Report.
The number here is six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight. Let's go to Mark and Medford. Mark,
Welcome to WRKO.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Good morning, Sandy.

Speaker 6 (07:10):
First off, I just want to wish Jea.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
A happy belated birthday. Number one and number two is
speedy recovery. Get a hang in there, Cooner man, we're
with you.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Oh he appreciates that. I mean seriously, Mark, he really
does appreciate the well wishes. It makes him feel.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Oh yeah, he does. Sandy. Let's let's put the shoe
on the other foot for a minute here. Okay, let's
just say this was Barack Obama or Joe Biden, or
even Kamala Harris here offering to help a democratic, communist
city like Chicago help with crime. Do you really think

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that this stupid Maya and I swear to God, Sandy
could quite possibly be the stupidest person on the planet
besides Michelle wool Okay, do you really think that he
would refuse the help of those three communists and would
they not be praising them like they would Jesus Christ

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himself saying, look at how our a president cares about
our city and our citizens so much.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
We graciously accept help from.

Speaker 6 (08:20):
You, mister or missus President.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, No, I absolutely I think this is a political
move without a doubt. This is if that were Joe
Biden in the White House saying you need some help,
they would have accepted with alacrity. They would the National
Guard would already be there. But the difference is Joe
Biden would not have offered any help because you know,
Joe Biden's administration was part of the reason why this

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problem exists to begin with, And then you have that
catch twenty two situation. You know, they they helped create
the problem, and so Trump can't be the answer to
the problem because the Democrats created the problem. And if
Trump's the answer, then they were wrong, and we can't
have that mark. So it's kind of a it's you know,
how many angels dance on the head of a pin question.
But I completely agree with you that it is a

(09:05):
political situation and if they needed help, they would have
no trouble accepting from a Democrat.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
And the Democrats can't break this secret code from this
secret little club that no matter what, we must disagree
with Donald Trump because you know, Donald Trump is the
one is exposing the corruption. Donald Trump is the one
that is disposing the lives and the stealing of god

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knows how much money from tax payers with Ukraine and
everything else. Okay, so therefore, at all costs, no matter what,
Trump can't win. Trump can't help us, because if we
let him help us, guess what, we prove that everybody
that once again Donald Trump was right.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, no, I don't disagree with that mark. And but
the problem is the people of Chicago. You know what
good does that do them that the president was right?
They still have to live with the idiots that they
voted in that are that are would rather protect the
criminals than protect the law abiding residents of the city.
That's the problem that they face. Thank you so much

(10:21):
for the call, Mark, I appreciated very much. Six six
six sixty eight sixty eight is the number here. Mark
raises a really interesting question, and that is the fact
that you know who's playing politics here. The both the
governor of Illinois and the mayor of Chicago say that
it's President Trump who's playing politics coming after blue cities.

(10:42):
But is that what's happening? Is it Trump or is
it Pritzker and Mayor Johnson who are playing politics? Because
I mean, look at what happened last weekend in Chicago,
and so many people have referenced it, but Chicago was
covered with bloodshed last weekend. Fifty four people shot, seven killed.

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And if there is anything that points out the ineffectiveness
or the inability of the elected officials in Chicago to
deal with crime, that statistic alone should do it for you.
And if you want to, if you want a good
recap of the numbers and what happened in Chicago. The
New York Post has been doing a very nice job

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of reporting the stats out of Chicago and other cities
for quite a while. But they did a report on
the numbers from on September first, on Labor day, just
as juxtaposing it against Pritzker continuing to reject the intervention
of President Trump and the National Guard. The fifty four

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individuals that were injured were victims of shootings. Seven lost
their lives and just a period of forty eight hours.
Now take that stat and compare it to the claims
of Governor Pritzker and Mayor Brandon Johnson. And they're out
there telling people that there is an alleged thirty two

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percent reduction of homicides, and that's their data, and they're
they're sticking to it. But if you look at the
real numbers, the spike and violence like this past weekend
show that their policies are not working. Their stats are skewed,
they're not correct, And if you look at the real numbers,

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you see that President Trump has warned that the real
reality of the crime is that it's escalating. Chicago has
a a very grim statistic, and that is over two
hundred and sixty six homicides by the end of August.

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That's I mean, think about two hundred and sixty six
people who have families and loved ones and jobs and
lives and friends and made vacation plans and we're going
to go visit somebody. I mean, these people were snuffed
out by the end of August, and yet Pritzker and
Johnson refused to accept any help in dealing with the situation.

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It defies logic and it also shows that they don't
think there's an emergency going on here, because if they did,
how could they refuse help. So they don't recognize that
there's any problem, let alone in an emergency. And here's
part of the problem. Mayor Johnson has pushed community intervention

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programs with about spending about one hundred million dollars in
the past year, and that's according to the city's own website.
But none of that money went toward crime prevention or
handling crime or the police departments. So you still have
of districts like the South Shore which are riddled with crime,

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and none of that money that he spent on social
programs had anything to do with supporting the police department
to stop the crime. Now, the National Guard can transform
a city. We've seen it happen in DC, We've seen
it happen in LA. We've seen that federal action actually works.

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Both pritz grin Johnson are completely ignoring the evidence of
that and instead of showing turning Chicago into a beacon
of Democrat resistance, which, as I think, what their purpose is,
what they've done is create Chicago as a symbol or
a beacon of Democrat weakness. I think that is what

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has happened. And their resistance and their efforts haven't protected
their citizens. It's made them vulnerable and condemned them to
live in a hellhole. Basically is what has happened.

Speaker 5 (15:09):
Now.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Chicago leaders, for the reasons that I just put forth,
are failing their city and you know, Pritzker, his state,
and it's so obvious now that I think what they've done,
and maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm just being helpful. Have
I think they've shot themselves in the foot. As I

(15:32):
said before, I think they basically are destroying their own careers.
One can only hope that they're destroying their own careers.
Mayor Johnson, as I said, issued in order blocking the
Chicago police from cooperating with any new federal law enforcement.
And then you have Pritsker on TV describing federal law
enforcement as an invasion and that the crime is a

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manufactured crisis in Chicago, and that the federal crime fighting
initiatives are cover for authoritarian motives. Maybe they should meet
with DC Mayor Bowser, who used to sing that song
until the National Guard went into d C and blow

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and behold, the streets of DC are safe again, and
so much so that Mayor Bowser is like, you can stay.
I'm happy to have you stay. This is good. So
given the fact that this works, what the president wants
to do works, and the fact that he turned Mayor
Bowser around, who really didn't like him and didn't want

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them there, should the President ignore the wishes of these
guys who have turned this into a political issue and
go in and help the people of Chicago. Anyway. That's
going to bring a whole new world to hurt. There's
going to be injunctions, there's going to be all sorts
of crime. See, he's a dictator. Should he care or

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should he just go in and help the people of Chicago? Anyway?
Let's go to John in Peabuddy, John, welcome to WRKO.
How are you, sir?

Speaker 6 (17:04):
Good MONI sat, thanks for having me again.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
You're welcome, Sandy.

Speaker 6 (17:09):
Ego testosterone in self indulgence is the reason why these
people who were in these positions. I basically badging Donald
Trump because breast off to ask mommy for help makes
them look like incompetent, small, insignificant.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
I'm sorry, hang on, John, I need you to hang
on through the through the break. We're up against a heartbreak.
When we were at back six one seven, six, six
sixty eight sixty eight is the question here? This is
the Kooner Report. We are talking about whether President Trump
should wait to be invited into Chicago by Illinois Governor
Fritzker or Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson, because I think it's
going to be a cold day in hell before they

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invite him in. But people are dying just last weekend
seven killed fifty four shots. And the question is does
he wait. It's going to cause the whole world to
hurt if he died, if he goes in without permission.
But should he go in anyway, we were speaking before
the break with John from Peabody. John, I'm so sorry
we got cut off, but go right ahead.

Speaker 6 (18:14):
Thank you, No problem, Sandy. But like I said, ego
is what takes over when you involve a president to
come and help you, especially this one. There's no unity
and this mayor just admitted within the last cut you
just played before Trump's is that Trump refused to give

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him funding. Well, what do you need it for? Why
do you need it? You just admitted to the public
you got a problem by saying that that's the problem
is you don't think before they speak. They they get
so absorved with themselves and asking the president for help
is making you looking confident, small, insignificant. You're not doing

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your job instead of being sparked and always being smart
by using the media to saying that the President and
I are working proudly together the resolve this problem in minutes.
But no, I thought you had this. I duty's had
this all situated. I don't need Donald Trump to step
in and be you know, interfering, being interfering with democracy

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and basically being unconstitutional. Now I's going to badger them
until but you know, if you if you ask me,
I think you should keep these the guard on basically
on alert because they think eventually this is all going
to cave in, and he's going to eventually end up
just caving in and asking him.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Yeah, so you think the guard that they're putting at
the Great Lakes Base there for immigration should just stay
on alert there because they might be needed in Chicago.

Speaker 6 (19:56):
Because like I said, they're always stepping on their own
foot every time Trump wants to help. And I again,
I don't think unity is anything that really exists anymore.
It says everybody's so self absorbed with their power, thinking
that they got the you know, they got control of
everything until it, it says, until the media gets the
hands on it. And what do they do. They blame

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the man up top. We're into fairing. You know, it's
not helping.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
But yeah, you know it's interesting, John. You know there's
an exception that proves your point, and that was DC
Mayor Muriel Bowser, who was just like them, who was
just you know, screaming the blue No, no, we don't
need your help, et cetera, et cetera. And then you know,
she had no choice because you know, Johnald Trump has
the power to go into a federal city. But then
when she saw what was happening and she saw the

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quality of life improved, she's like, Okay, screw this, and
she just jumped right on board the bandwagon. So I mean,
that was that was And so she showed I've never
been a big Mural Bowser fan, but that to me,
showing that she put her people first, and she said,

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you know what, I can't do this anymore. I'm going
I'm going with it because it's working and they can
stay and the surge helped, and you were right, and
here I am that to me. If I were in
DC and I didn't like her before, I would probably
vote for her because she's just shown me that she
put the people up her city first, and that she
was willing to admit she made a mistake, and that

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she was willing to work with Trump. Those are all
things to me that are so that a leader needs
to do, and so I would I would absolutely vote
for her. It depends on, obviously who the opponent is,
but I would obviously vote for her more than I
would ever vote for somebody who still denies that there's
a problem in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Well it is.

Speaker 6 (21:46):
Biden never helped with the California fires, the one in Hawaii,
all of these disastrous things that happened because he felt
like people were going to step on his toes, people
were gonna they were going to kick him out. He's
going to lose his popularity again. It's just everybody gets
so absorbed in their positions that no like it. Says,

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no one's willing to work and unify. It doesn't happen anymore,
even today, even with the standards of people's lives. They
just don't want help anymore. Everyone says, I've got this, yeah,
until until you know, like it says, still, you realize
the problem is at handing you don't well.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
And I think the reason behind that, as we've spoken
of today, is the fact that a lot of times
these problems that they need help with are of their
own making, and if they admit there's a problem, they
have to admit they're wrong, and that's bad to begin with,
but then to admit that your arch enemy is right
on top of that. That's why they can't admit it,

(22:46):
which is why I am I am. I have more
respect for DC mayor miuro Bowser now than I did before,
because she's just admitted I was wrong and I need
to help and thank you and you know to me,
to be able to admit that you're wrong something and
to do something for a greater good is the hallmark
of somebody who is actually understands what a civic office is.

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And I never thought of that. I never thought she
was one of those people before I always thought that
she was a completely self absorbed, aggrandizing politician, and she
showed me that she isn't. And you know, good for her.
Maybe that was a personal evolution for her. I don't know,
but my respect for her went up. Did it go
up for you? John? When you saw that? She said, Okay,

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this is working. I'm good.

Speaker 6 (23:36):
That's the example it needs to be set and over again.
And it's what people need to understand, is this May
is not here doing a fear. His goal was to
save the United States period, every state, every city, every
inch of this country. But no one looks at it
that way.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (23:55):
Only is is an interference in an inconvenience in destroying
popularity for the Democrats.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah, And I think it's exactly as they do so
many times. I think the Democrats were accusing Donald Trump
of politicizing the crime in Chicago and when it when
it isn't, when it was they themselves who were doing
exactly that. Thank you so much for the call, John,
I appreciate it very much. The number here is six
one seven two sixty six, sixty eight sixty eight six
one seven two six sixty six eight six eight. When

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you hear a caller drop off. That means a line
has opened up for you, and the text number is
seven zero four seven zero. On the text line sixty
one seven says Sandy. Seriously, what's the guard supposed to
do going with machine guns and tanks and just open
fire on the citizens? Yeah, that will be helpful. Nobody
is suggesting that that. I don't I don't recall ever

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seeing anybody suggest that. That's not what they did in DC.
What they do is the guard goes in and the
guard doesn't arrest anybody, and they're not pulling guns on anybody.
What the guard does is in their in their number,
a uniform guard going and support the police. So when
the police make an arrest, they have guard to help them.
When the police need to do array, the guard helps them.

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So the guard is not acting as the police force.
The guard is supporting the existing police force. That is
how they helped in DC, and that is what President
Trump is suggesting they could. And that's what they did
in LA. And they were also assisting federal ice officers
as well. And so that is what the guard does.

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They don't act as a police force. They support the
existing police force. So that question is kind of snarky,
and it's it's very it's it's taking a premise and
taking a false premise and putting it out there and
trying to put that into people's minds that, oh, the
guard are going in with tanks and they're going to
take that's the whole militarized thing that Pritzker wanted you

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to think it's happening. That's not what's happening. That's not
what the guard guard does. So you know, seriously, get
a grip. Let's see two oh seven. Chicago and DC
can't hire enough cops because governors, mayors and city councils
don't back them up. They're antics of twenty twenty made
being a cop unattractive. That is so true, and that

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is the root of the problem. The blue city mayors,
through defunding the police forces, are responsible for the crime
surgeres that's one of the policies that's responsible for the
crime surges. And they can't let Donald Trump be the
fixer because you know, that's bad, that's very, very bad.

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So they just ignore the problem. They just turn away
from the problem and pretend that and pretend that it
doesn't exist, because then we don't need Donald Trump's help.
So should President Trump wait to be invited to go
to Chicago or should he just go? Never mind the
fact that that's going to be a whole world of

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hurt if he does that. Let's go to Eddie and Charlestown. Eddie,
Welcome to WRKO. How are you.

Speaker 5 (27:04):
Good, Sandy, Good morning, Handy. How are you today?

Speaker 1 (27:06):
I am fine, thank you. So what do you think
should President Trump waite to be invited?

Speaker 5 (27:12):
No? Absolutely not. He's the president of the United States,
where one country. We're not fifty different countries. We're one country.
So he's the he's the CEO of this country. He's
the president by the people we elected him, and I
think he should do one step further. Instead of sending

(27:34):
these troops into democratic cities that are popping up, I
think he should do one step further and institute marshal
law in this country until this whole mess is cleaned
up and nothing is enough. You mentioned earlier on the
show that there was over two hundred murders in Chicago

(27:56):
in nineteen eighties. I was in Turkey in the Navy.
That was the hotland of terrorism, and they didn't even
have that much violence. So you're talking in Chicago over
two hundred murders. Send martial law for six months a
year with however, how long it clears this home mess

(28:20):
up to port all the illegal immigrants, clean us up,
take the power away from the Democratic mayors and governors straightness,
hoping out once and for all instead of band aiding
it in New York DC, Chicago, Portland, LA. Because what's

(28:42):
gonna happen is if you just bandied the problem, you
might fix it here, then it pops up somewhere else.
But it's enough is enough, It's it's leading to it,
and I want to be surprised with it. If it
keeps on continuing the way it's going, you will see
miles the law in this country within a year. And

(29:03):
it should be he should do it right now. Put
the lid on a boiling pot and let it sim
it down. That's my opinion.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Well, I appreciate you sharing that opinion with this, Eddie.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
I do.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
I don't agree with you, but I but thank you
so much for sharing it with us. First of all,
you know you're right. We have one country. It's not
fifty different countries. But what it is is fifty different states.
And each of those states has rights, and it is
up to the governor to invite a national Guard into

(29:40):
his state. That's how our country was formed, that's the
very fabric of our country. So you just can't ignore that.
There are exceptions to that, and you know, if there's
an insurrection, that is one of the exceptions, and so
the president would have to declare that there's an insurrection
to go in and bring the National Garden, which would
bring a whole world to hurt. This is not easy
thing for He can't just decide I need to go

(30:02):
to Chicago. It's a really big decision and it will
in fact be fought tooth and nail in the courts.
I'm sure if he decided to do that. Martial law
is very, very, very dangerous. And I hear your frustration.
I understand your frustration, and I know it's shared by

(30:22):
so many people. But it is not just a little
step too far. It is a massive overreach to do
martial law. And you can't say just ignore the mayors.
These are elected officials. These are elected officials. The governors,
the mayors, all these people you dislike are elected by
the people of their counties, their districts, their states. And

(30:45):
if you ignore them. You're ignoring the will of the people.
And then what you have is what the Democrats have
been screaming about, and that is that President Trump will
be a dictator. Yes, if he did that declared martial law,
he could in fact probably clean the country up in
six months to a year. But we would also have
a civil war, and it would be because President Trump

(31:08):
has declared himself a dictator and ignored the voters who
put him into office to begin with. They put him
into office because they trusted him. They trusted him not
to do something like declare martial law. It's draconian and
I feel the frustration. I understand the frustration. But you
have to find a way to work with what we have.

(31:30):
You have to preserve the constitution at the same time
that you bring law and order. And that's not easy.
That is a tightrope walk, and there is a way
to do it. And President Trump keeps testing and trying
to find the way to do it. And he did
in DC and it was effective, and I have faith
that he will find a way to help Chicago. Now,
the question is is that by waiting for an invitation

(31:53):
or is that by declaring an insurrection and going in.
I mean, either way is is trouble, but Chicago is
a very troubled place and needs help. So that's the issue.
You can't defend the Constitution by throwing it out the window,
and that's what martial law would do. So I appreciate
you trying to think outside the box and what to do,

(32:16):
but I think you've gone a little bit too far
there with the suggestion of martial law. I think what
we need to do instead is find a way to
work within the law, within the civilian law that exists.
Because I don't know many Libertarians, independents, or Republicans who
would agree with martial law either. And the Democrats would scream,

(32:39):
this is what we told you would happen, and they
would be right. And so the last thing you want
is to give them any inter show of being right
in this particular situation.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
And I.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Think you need to listen to the voice of the people.
And some of these people are elected officials. Now, some
of those people who are putting them in there, I
have been misguided, I believe, but that doesn't mean they
don't deserve their vote. What's happened in Chicago is partially Chicago.
In's fault for electing these people. But I think they
were duped. Some of them are naives, some of them
are duped, and some of them owe their allegiance to

(33:16):
the Democratic Party for whatever their livelihood is, like the
teachers' union. But not all the people feel this way.
Feel that Governor Pritsker and Mayor Johnson are right and
have put their best interests at heart. They're a bunch
that don't. And there was a there was a very

(33:36):
interesting cut. I played it the other day. I can
play it again today from a Chicago alderman who has
his finger on the pulse of his district where he works,
and he has been horrified. His name is Ray Lopez,
and he ripped Prisker and Johnson for refusing to work

(33:57):
with a president. Cut twenty five, please, Mike twenty five.

Speaker 7 (34:07):
We should be working to make sure that we are
in coordination with each other. There's nothing stopping in the
mayor of the City of Chicago, the governor or the
state of Illinois from picking up the phone and reaching
out to the President of the United States and saying
what can we do to be on the same page.
We should all be looking to continuously decrease the amount
of victims in our city and in our state, and
instead we're getting into this tit for social media back

(34:29):
and forth nonsense, which is only putting the people of
Chicago and the people of Illinois in the middle in
the crosshairs of the criminals who are going to use
this time to exploit and go crazy. As we're continuing
to see this weekend where we've had multiple mass shootings,
multiple victims, and no one wants to talk about them.
I hear the governor talking about an invasion and insurrection.

(34:49):
I hear the mayor writing useless orders against the federal government.
But what no one is talking about is if our
crime stats are decreasing, why can't we push with Donald
Trump's help and decrease even more. How many victims are
we comfortable with? Because that's ultimately the subtext of what
the mayor and the governor are saying, is that we
are comfortable with the amount of victims we have right now.
We don't need to improve on our numbers any further

(35:11):
than that.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
I think that's the voice of the people what you
just heard right there. That and it may not have
been the voice of the people six months ago, but
I think that's what it is. Now. I think more
and more people are coming around to Alderman Lopez's point
of view, saying, how many people need to die for
you to keep posturing like this. I mean, it's a
common sense response to what's happening in Chicago. I mean,

(35:38):
it's pretty clear, isn't it. Crime goes down, is the
risk of arrest and conviction, conviction goes up. So if
you have more police around, if you have National Guard
helping the police, and that all goes up and safety
is increased, you know. And here's the thing that these politicians,
not Alderman Lopez, but Governor Pritzker and Mayor Johnson are

(36:02):
asserting that Chicagoans do not perceive violent crime as a
real issue. That's what they're putting out there, that people
don't think this is a real problem, so we don't
really have to respond to it with President Trump's help.
But they're wrong. More and more people are being affected
by crime, and more and more people are recognizing the

(36:24):
fact that it's a huge issue and we need President
Trump's help. And I think you're going to see that
in the next election. But you know, if you can
wait that long. So I think that's it's scurrilous at
this point for these for these politicians to say, no,

(36:46):
you know, we don't have crime, we don't all to
protect themselves and to protect their reputation. And I think
it's backfiring on right now. So what President Trump does
is very important coming up. Does he wait to be
in vice? That's going to make the politicians there who
are denying that they need help look worse and worse,
and worse is more people die. But do you want

(37:08):
people to die to make your point? That's why it's
such a difficult decision for President Trump. He doesn't want
to override States rights, he doesn't want to declare an insurrection.
He doesn't want to go in where he's not asked
to go in. But if he doesn't, people die. That's
a really difficult decision. And I'm not sure which way

(37:29):
he should go. And I'm wondering if you can figure
out which way he should go. Let's go to Bob
in debt him. Bob, welcome to WRKO.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
How are you, Sandy?

Speaker 8 (37:40):
Very good? Thank you? So you actually are talking about
your last few words there were exactly My point I
want to make is that I think it's there's probably
some underlying reasons why Trump doesn't just run right into
Chicago and you know, the National Guard, and he's proven

(38:03):
in hec that you know, it worked, and he can
he has that in his back pocket. And you look
at a big city like Chicago, you know, democratically run
I think he is. He's best in waiting a little bit,
and that will show the people of Chicago that, you know,

(38:25):
they will start thinking, well, why why aren't are you know,
elected officials doing something about this, and why does the
federal government have to come in? And maybe they'll start
thinking differently about their their local politicians. And again, if
if Trump was to go right in quickly, it would

(38:47):
bolster the the local politicians uh attitude towards Trump being
you know, a dictator and whatnot. So I think with
him waiting, I think it it covers a lot of ground.
And you know Trump Trump is playing you know, three
D chess where they're playing you know, checkers. For god's sakes,

(39:08):
it just seems like that. Ultimately, I think they have
to cave and and and allow the federal government to
come in and and help. I mean, the citizens of
Chicago suffered enough, haven't they.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
I think they have, but I'm not sure that that
there is such thing as enough for Pritz Curan Johnson.
I don't see them caving, to be honest with you.

Speaker 8 (39:32):
Well, again, if they if they start to see a
more more of the community and more of the people
start to say, well, what are we doing here? Why
why are you allowing this? And you know, it's it,
it changes it's it changes the waves. The wave starts

(39:54):
getting bigger and bigger against them, maybe, and then that's
I mean, they're politically motivated, obviously, so once they see uh,
the majority of people

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Starting yeah, to to your to finish your point, I'm sorry,
we're up against a break, Bob,