Should We Join the Fight?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number. Okay, listen now to President Trump. He
was on Air Force one, asked by a reporter initially
the media again and there's so many laws. It's it's
just unbelievable the lies now coming from the media and

(00:20):
now they're spewing them. Uh, and so Trump, They were saying, well,
Trump is rushing back from the G seven for a ceasefire,
and Trump said, I'm not interested in a ceasefire. Roll
cut one, Mike, what specifically is better than a ceasfire?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
What are you looking for here?

Speaker 1 (00:39):
And then a real end, not a ceasefire? And then
something that would be pumptive or or giving up entirely.
That's okay too. Are you close there? As are you possible?
Is that possible? Electory for?

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Certainly impossible? Complete give up? That's possibly? You so saying
he wants a real end to the war. And basically
he said a complete give up. And as he elaborated
last night on or yesterday forgive me on truth social
he's now demanding an unconditional surrender from the Supreme leader,

(01:15):
from the Iranian leadership. And then he further said, we
not Israel, but we have complete and total control of
the skies. And then he openly told the Supreme Leader
Ali Hammani that they know exactly what bunker he's in,
that they know exactly where he is, and that they've

(01:38):
decided not to kill him. I got to say, I
thought it was a funny tweet or whatever. True social
and true, but so we have we've decided not to
take you out. And he puts in parentheses kill with
an exclamation point, like in other words, you know, if
it wasn't for me, That's what Trump's basically telling him.
You know, BB wants you dead. If it wasn't for me,

(01:59):
you'd be dead by now with your seventy two virgins
with Allah, so you know, in other words, I can
take you out any time I want. Now. In response,
the state media just came straight from the Supreme Leader.
So this was, you know, from the top guy in Iran.

(02:19):
State media now is saying that Iran is warning Israel
and the United States that tonight we'll see what happens,
but that tonight something is going to happen that will
be remembered quote unquote for centuries. It could be bluff.
There's a lot of bluffing in war psychological warfare. It

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could all be smoke and no fire, or there is
a fear that they may have already attained the bomb,
or they may have acquired a suitcase bomb, or something
was given to them by either China or Pakistan. You
can never rule that out. And that's why Israel now
is even intensifying their massive air campaign. Now the Ayatola

(03:08):
has now come out and called for an all out
jihad against Israel and the United States. He now says
it's time to show no mercy and as he put it,
the battle is now on. So the regime now is
in a corner, its back is against the wall, and
they would rather that Israel continue to pound and degrade

(03:32):
and destroy their regime and their country rather than surrender
to the United States. And so Trump now is met
with his national security team yesterday and there is now
open talk he's seriously weighing that the United States decisively
enter the war and topple the Iatolas and wipe out

(03:56):
their entire nuclear weapons infrastructure, all of it, and their
ballistic missiles. In other words, full regime change. Do you
support the United States bombing striking Iran Marlene in Waltham.
Thanks for holding Marlene, and welcome.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Hija. Hi Marline, thank you, thank you for all you do.
I am actually I'm decided because I see both sides,
but it's too risky to go directly in there. I
believe ways to go around it and not be directly involved. Also,
I like to know from you, why not include Congress.

(04:43):
I mean, I don't have the history behind it, but
have all the other wars been decided by the president
or it was Congress involved.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Well there's something called Oh sorry, go ahead, Marlene. I
didn't mean to cut you off.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Please go ahead for sure if Congress gets involved, because
that way they're a fault. You know, it's not the
fault of the president. It's not the to blame President Trump.
They have been involved. So I'm not sure. I'm not
sure if it's a good thing to include Congress.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Well, I think if he asked for a declaration of
war against Iran or an authorization for an attack on Iran,
I think you would have the votes. I'm not sure,
but it would be close. The Democrats are against it
just because they're against him, But for the most part
now Ran Paul is against it. Thomas Massey, a Republican

(05:40):
as well from Kentucky, is against it. So you have
a few in that. Marjorie Taylor Green is against it.
So you have some of the libertarians that are against it,
and some of the MAGA supporters are against it. But
the establishment would be with him, and I think even
some Democrats would defect, so it would be a close vote.

(06:02):
But I think your point is a brilliant one, which
is which is that if Congress votes, not only is
it the legal, constitutional thing to do, but in a
sense Trump now is how do I say this? It
kind of spreads the blame if things go bad, you know,
God forbid. Trump will say, hey, look, Congress back me

(06:26):
on this. You know, the House, the Senate, I mean
they voted, they all voted for this war. So it
gives Trump political protection and political cover if they do. Now.
Thomas Massey, congressman from Kentucky, he's an anti war libertarian,
has come out and said this is not our war

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and he's against US bombing Iran. He says, but if
we do decide that the president wants to do this,
he said, our constitution demands that we have a vote
in Congress. Now, just so that you know, Marlene, there
is something called the War Powers Act, and this does
allow the president sixty days if he believes that there

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is a national a threat to the national interest, or
a threat to our national security. He can go for two,
maybe even three months and unilaterally launch and launch strikes
or deploy US forces before he has to go to Congress.
So in theory, he can take us to war without

(07:32):
getting the green light from Congress, the authorization. If if
I was advising him, I'd say, on such a momentous
decision as this, you have to go to Congress, and
you have to let the American people have their say,
make your case to the country, make it. You have

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to make your case, try to swing public opinion behind you.
But in the end, the American people deserve a debate
and then a vote to their elected representatives. And so
that's and I agree with you, and I think that
would give him more legitimacy to do this and more
political protection and cover. And so that's where we are, Marlene.

(08:16):
Things are moving very fast, very fast. Marlene, thank you
very very much for that call, really good call. Six
one seven two six six sixty eight, sixty eight. So
let me throw this log on the fire. Not only
am I asking should we bomb Iran or stay out?

(08:37):
But if Trump decides to pull the proverbial trigger, six
one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight is
the number, okay, the march to war. My question now
to you Trump now weighing his options. He's now, according
to the White House, he is now seriously considering to

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potentially order US forces to attack the Iranian regime, to
topple it and to obliterate literally wipe out their entire
nuclear program as well as all of their remaining ballistic missiles.
Should we join Israel in this war to smash the

(09:18):
Iranian theocratic regime? Six one seven two six six sixty
eight sixty eight Here is now the absolute latest, literally
thirty seconds, and I want to go back to the
phone lines. There are now two aircraft carriers, massive aircraft
carriers in that region. The USS Carl Vincent is already

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there now, the USS Nimics is on its way. It
is almost there. They have about seventy US fighter jets each,
as well as the ability to fire Tomahawk missiles. They're
being accompanied now by Navy carriers underwater nuclear submarine on

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top of this. There is now a third aircraft carrier,
the USS Ford, which is now making its way to
the Persian Gulf Mediterranean region. On top of that, thousands
of US troops are now being deployed. They're not giving
us a number. There are already forty thousand in the region.

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They're going to be sending in thousands more to beef
up our US bases all over that area, fearing now
that the Iranians are on the cusp of launching a
terrorist attack on one of our embassies, consulates, or bases.
On top of that, US fighter jets and warplanes are

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being positioned or repositioned in Europe ready they say, to
strike Iran at any moment now. So far, the White
House says, we are beefing up and surging as in
the region to give to bolster our defensive posture, to

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protect our troops and our bases. Also to give Trump
as many options as possible, range of options should he
decide to attack Iran now, as we are doing this.
Iran now, and this is the danger economically. Iran now

(11:26):
is saying they are gonna mine the Strait of Hormuz,
which is that waterwave that connects the Persian Gulf to
the larger world where so much of the world's oil,
about twenty to twenty five percent, goes through the Strait
of Hormuz. Just the mere threat that they will mine

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the Strait of Hormuz, in other words, prevent any ships
containing oil from getting out of that region has sent
oil prices going up four or five percent stock market.
The global price of oil and gas is going up,
and it could literally lead to a massive spike in

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oil prices should they shut the Strait of Horror moves
down completely, which is a key oil, vital supply route
for oil and natural gas. And this is a chokehold
that the Iranians have on the global economy. So the
stakes now are getting higher and higher and higher. My

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question to you, as you see the events unfold in
some ways almost cascading, if you're advising President Trump, what
would you tell them to do. To go in with
Israel and finish it together, or to stay out and
let Israel do it on its own. Six one seven

(12:53):
two six six sixty eight sixty eight. And let me
just ask all of you, because I think this is
an important question that needs to be asked. If Trump
decides to bomb Iran. Would this not be seen as
a betrayal or violation of his central pledge to get

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us out of forever wars? Would this be seen by
MAGA voters, the seventy seven seventy eight million people like
myself who voted for him. Would this be seen as
a betrayal of many of his voters? Would this cost
him dearly in terms of his political credibility and capital.

(13:39):
Or if he helps BB win this war and take
out these Islamo Nazis and end their nuclear weapons program
once and for all, will Trump, Yeah, he did go
in in a war, and it was a big war,
but he taught one of the greatest threats to humanity

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of our time. Will he then go down as a
great hero and a great statesman? And everybody will say, well, yes,
he broke his pledge, But who cares because in the
end the greater good is that the Iranian regime has fallen.
So my question to you, if he goes in on Iran,

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does he risk splitting his magabase and destroying his presidency
in the process. Six one, seven two, six, six sixty
eight sixty eight lines are loaded. Dan in New Hampshire.
You've been holding patiently. Dan, thank you and welcome.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Thanks for taking the call. Jeff, you certainly set the
table today, and I'm with you. There is no way
in this world that we should be involved. Right now.
President Trump is holding the CODs. He also has control
of the deck. Now where Israel's not losing, they're winning.

(15:08):
And because they're winning, what do you expect the IYA
told us to do. They're going to put out every
threat that they know. Of course they're going to do that.
So what do we do? React to a threat or
react to real action? And what that basically means is
that I would rather react to a bad situation and say, look,

(15:33):
they set off a nuke. Now we have the right
to go in there. They've gone too far. We didn't
want this to happen. I think that Trump and his
arbitrary situation that we're in is where we should stay.
But I'm going to tell you right now, I really
do believe that the media is going to turn on him.

(15:54):
He'll split the base, the MAGA base, all the people
that are standing in the room that says go go,
go go, half of them will turn on them. Because
bottom line is, it's his decision and we've got a
man with the best instincts in the world. He's proven it.
He should not be coerced. People should allow him to

(16:17):
set back, think and let his natural instinct take over.
And bottom line is, if that instinct is to keep
us out of war, keep us how can I keep
us safe, keep us fortified. We've got all the military
might that we need to be in the area to
react if something does go sideways. We've got it there,

(16:38):
but we don't want to provoke it. Let them provoke it.
Because if you've noticed, no one in the Middle East
has said anything, China has said nothing, Russia has said.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Okay, let's go right back to Dan in New Hampshire. Dan,
you were driving towards your ultimate point. You were saying, Look, Jeff,
Israel is clear winning this war. Have you noticed nobody
in the Middle East is saying anything. Then no one's
shedding any tears for the Mullahs in Tehran. It's almost
like they have no friends left in that entire area.

(17:14):
And you know, as you were saying, even China is
remaining relatively mute. So why this rush now for us
to get involved. Please pick up where you left off.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
The situation being is that everyone's looking for an excuse
to jump in, And what better excuse would be for
our president to contradict himself after he's told everybody that
he wasn't going to do it, and then all of
a sudden he does it. He opens up the whole.
He basically creates a battle royal. Right now, you know,

(17:52):
everyone's fight goes to a fight and within the ring.
We're outside the ring. Everyone else is outside the ring.
That's what they all should stay and let Israel handle this.
They've been doing a remarkable job, you know, strategically brilliant
and quite honestly, we can you can always escalate, but

(18:15):
once you get in, you can never get out. And then,
like you say, you've got to clean up the mess
that you've created. We're already a nation that's got plenty
of debt. I think, really Trump, I think that his
better mind will will will see the point that if
he does get involved, he's going to split his base,

(18:38):
He's going to ignite the media against him, He's going
to ignite the Democrats against them. And bottom line is
is that he could potentially really damage his presidency, or
he could come out of this looking like, you know,
the best thing that's ever happened into the world, and
that basically is to sip by the wayside, see where

(19:02):
this thing goes. We're in position to do whatever we want.
And I say, if they overreact, then we can look
around everyone say, look, they just set off a nuke.
They had a little micro nuke, they set that off.
We can't the world cannot allow this to happen. If
they can do it to Israel, they can do it
to anybody. And you know they've they're forced to play.

(19:26):
So I say, let's see what they do. Let's watch
and see what they do. Let's not overreact. We're all
in position here, We've got this thing well in hand,
and I think that we should not overreact.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Well, you know, I like the way you phrase it.
I think us going to war, especially now, would be
a clear overreaction. And the part that I'm having a
hard time wrapping my mind around dan is I would
get it if Israel was losing, or I would get
it if they're with such say Iranian blowback where they've

(20:04):
unleashed has Bellah and Hamas, and say basharh Asad was
still in power in Syria and so the Syrians now
and in other words, that Israel is fighting a war
on three or four fronts, and you know, I mean,
I know citizens are dying with these missile barrages that
Iran Is, you know, sending their way attacking them. But

(20:26):
for the most part, the Iron Dome is holding most
of these missiles and drones are being destroyed in the air.
We are helping Israel destroy these Iranian ballistic missiles in
the air. Some are getting through. So according to what
the Israelis are saying, they say about twenty four to
twenty five civilians have been killed, buildings have been damaged

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in Tel Aviv and Haifa, So there's no question Israelis
are dying, but it's not in the hundreds and thousands
that would have been had it not been for the
Iron Dome. So in other words, things are going well,
extremely well. In fact, to be honest, I don't think
this work could be going any better for Israel. So
I'm looking at this and I'm like, and we want

(21:09):
to jump in why, Like, okay, I get it. Four
dough that's the big one, that deep underground nuclear enrichment
site which is buried underneath the mountain. But you know,
there's many ways to skin a cat we don't have
to get involved, you know, if to drop those bunker
Busters or to have the B fifty sorry the B

(21:33):
twos to deliver them, as I said, we could let
the Israelis do it, or there's other ways to take
four dough. So what I'm saying is, and Israel already
has plans. They've said, look, we're not relying on bunker Busters.
They've openly said it. We'd like to have the bunker Busters. Sure,
but we have plans in place. We're going to knock

(21:55):
out four dough without a bunker Buster. So there's a
couple of ways they can do that. The bunker Buster
is the simplest, easiest, and the one with the most
highest potential level of success. So yeah, BB's on the
phone with Trump saying, you know, give me the bunker Busters,
of course, but they don't need it. So what I'm

(22:16):
saying is, if everything is going Israel's way, knock on wood.
Like I said, it's a perfect game of chess. Why
why blow it? You're winning. So I'm with you, Dan,
I'm with you all the way. But again that's just me.
If you disagree, I want to hear from you. Six
one seven two six six, sixty eight sixty eight. And

(22:39):
let me just make one other point, and again I've
got to tip my hat to b. Benet Yahu on this.
He has out maneuvered Iran. It took him a couple
of years, but he's completely outmaneuvered the Iranians. Look what
he's done. He has destroyed their proxy, has Belah in Lebanon,

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taken out in Israala, their leader. He's pretty much neutralized
has Belah. There's nothing from them. They're powerless, they're impotent.
They've been smashed. He has really smashed Hamas in Gaza.
So now Israel doesn't have an immediate two front war
from the south and the north. Had they launched this

(23:21):
attack on Iran, say several years ago. Bishah Asad has
fallen in Syria. So all of Iran's main proxies and
allies are now defeated or marginalized. That has left the
Iranians standing alone. And then, if you remember last October,
there is this exchange. Remember they were firing missiles at

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each other for a while, and then Iran launched some
of these ballistic missiles and it actually hit a few
civilian areas well. Israel launched massive strikes, and what they
did was they degraded. They took out much of Iran's
air defenses at the time. So now when they've launched

(24:04):
their big air campaign, they have no Hamas, no Hesbalah,
no bisharh Asad. The Mullahs's air defenses were practically depleted
and dismantled. Anyway, Now Israel has completely destroyed all of
their air defenses. And that's why Trump said, we have

(24:24):
total control of the skies. Now when you have total
complete control of airspace, Now Israel can bomb Iran at
will any target they want, any government building, any state
media building, any nuclear facility, any military installation. They can

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if they want. They can take out Iran's oil and
gas production. I mean, in other words, they can cripple
the Mullahs. Now, think of it in terms of a
boxing match, the fighter. They've got a fighter on the ropes,
his hands are down, one eye is closed, his nose

(25:06):
is smashed. You could go now for the knockout blow. Now,
this knockout blow. War is not a fight. It's not
a boxing match. It takes more time than just you know,
one or two punches, but another seven, ten, fourteen days,
and this thing could be over for the mullas six
one seven two six, six sixty eight sixty eight Alex

(25:29):
in Florida. Thanks for holding Alex and welcome.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
Hey, Hey, Jeff, good morning, and thank you for taking
my call.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
My pleasure.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
John.

Speaker 5 (25:39):
I don't know if you're going to care for what
I say right now, my opinion, weren't you reporting that
the COVID, that the COVID virus was created in a
lab and released intentionally on us?

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Well?

Speaker 5 (25:55):
Are you reporting that?

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Well, it was definitely created in a lab in Wuhan,
and it was released from the lab in Wuhan. The
debate now whether it was deliberate or it came out
of the lab in Wuhan accidentally. And Xi Jinping made
a decision. Am I going to have my domestic population

(26:17):
be the only ones that suffer this? Or am I
going to allow people infected like businessmen and others to
travel to places like the United States and unleash it
on the world. But yeah, no, there's no question. I
don't think there's much of a debate anymore that the
COVID virus came from the lab in Wuhan and it
was released into the world by Jijenping, this is all

(26:42):
on the hands of China. But yeah, please keep going, Alex.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
Okay, it's not just on the hands of China, it's
on the hands of Fauci in our deep state Trump
I heard Trump and RFK Jr. I would say that
that needed to be prosecuted.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yes, that's true. If Fauci did fund it, which was illegal,
and our deep state was involved, which is illegal, and
they're also complicit, they have blood on their hands, no question, absolutely,
no question. But Alex, I don't see what this has
to do with whether we should go and bomb Iran.
I mean, I agree with you, but I don't see

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where that you know, what that has to do with
whether we should topple the Mullahs in Tehran. Six one
seven two six, six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay,
joining me now. In fact, we're just about to get
her on the phone, uh and she always comes on
at this time, doctor Grace, putting liberals in their place,

(27:52):
Grace Vuoto. She's got very very strong feelings about this
whole issue. Grace. How are you.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Jenf I am very well and first and foremost I
want to command you on your incredible coverage, your knowledge
and your wisdom speaks volumes this morning.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Well, thank you. As you know, the neo conservatives now
we're waging a vicious online campaign against me, saying that
I'm a Jew hater and an anti Semite, and there's
memes they're sending me, memes of me in a Hitler
mustache and with a Nazi armband because I oppose direct

(28:36):
us involvement in the war. I mean, this is what
I mean when I say there's scum and their swine.
That's what they do. They do character assassination, they're smear merchants,
and honestly, that's why we can't have you know, look,
I don't want to get into the whole Tucker Carlson
Mark Levin debate, but I mean it's like a bunch
of children, like we can't have an adult rational discussion

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out vicious smears and vicious attacks and vicious name calling.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Well, Jeff, you're completely right, and that's the kind of
behavior that we have consistently bashed the left for. We
don't want to see it on the right. And one
of the things that I want to see is maga
behaving respectfully to one another. This is a very important debate,
and think about it. Think how united we all are

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truly at this moment, in this sense, we all now
support this remarkable moment in history, that Israel is bombing Iran.
I mean, this is a overall there's agreement on that
that Israel should bomb Iran, and that the mullets shouldn't
have the bomb, that they ultimately will have it, and

(29:48):
that the time for diplomacy is over. I mean, for
the most part, there's unanimity on that. So what's the
discussion now whether or not we as Americans should get
involved and to what extent is our involvement. But think
how far we've come. Think about the Biden years where
Biden didn't give Israel enough support, and now because Trump

(30:09):
is there, Israel has the support that it needs to
conduct what has been a miraculous campaign so far. Look
at that they have control over the skies of Iran.
Do you know what an achievement that is. I am
blown away by Bibi Netanyahu. He has been magnificent. The

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Israeli troops and the intelligence has been extraordinary. What a
terrific moment. And this is not the time to grow
petty insults at one another. We're on the cusp of history.
Right now. Trump has to make a momentous decision, and
he has to make it by also keeping his movement intact,

(30:52):
because we have more than just one thing to achieve.
But Jeff, make no mistake about it. I believe that
Trump was spared that bullet hitting him in Butler, Pennsylvania,
so he could be here at this moment to strongly
support Israel in its campaign to rid the world of
this menace of a possible nuclear bomb in the region

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that has been held over the head of the Israeli
state for decades and really the head of the world.
This is a key moment for Donald Trump. He has
an important decision to make, and MAGA has to remain
united as we go forward.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Well, Grace, let me ask you, as literally as I'm
talking to you, the Middle East now is on edge.
We are sending in massive navy assets into the region.
Trump is now seriously weighing whether the United States should
now enter the fight between Israel and Iran. If you

(31:51):
are advising him right now, if you were in a
situation room, what would you tell the president to do?
Should he bomb Iran or stay out?

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Jeff, I firmly believe he campaigned on putting America first
and right now simply by giving Israel the support that
he's giving, the moral support, all the backing that he's
giving is enough. We should not get involved any further
than the involvement that we have so far. He did

(32:23):
promise to end endless wars, and much of MAGA wants
him to. You know, it's going to hold him to that,
So what he needs to do. In my view, though,
I would go a little bit further than you. I
would not even give those bunker buster bombers. I wouldn't
give it. Israel is doing a phenomenal job, and I
thought that up to basically yesterday, the two of them

(32:44):
together were awesome. So Trump was playing the good cop.
Nittan Yahoo was the bad cop. And that's how you
achieve big things in world history. So keep American fingerprints
and involvement out. The Israelis do not need us meddling.
Let them do it for themselves. And one of the
things we've learned when individuals do things for themselves, whether

(33:08):
it is human beings in the United States, citizens, or nations,
those results tend to be lasting. Whenever somebody tries to
do something for somebody else, it's always a short term
band aid kind of a solution. Let nations do things
for themselves. The Israelis are brilliant at defending themselves. Let

(33:28):
them continue to do so, and let the Iranian people
rise up and overthrow this barbaric, oppressive, and disgusting regime grace.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
It is a lot of debate now in Congress and
around the country that if I underline the word if,
because no decision, final decision has been made. But if
Trump decides we are going to go in and we
are going to strike Iran and join Israel in this
massive campaign against the Mullas military campig that there should

(34:01):
be a vote in Congress that Congress must weigh in,
Congress must give its approval. Where do you stand on that?

Speaker 2 (34:11):
I do think so, Jeff, because I want to see
everybody on the record, because there's going to be consequences
if we do get involved any further. There's going to
be consequences, and those who have rushed American boys and women,
you know, men and women into war, I want them ultimately,
ultimately to be held accountable for that decision and that vote.

(34:31):
So I do think that we should do that, and
that's what we used to do. Let's hold our presidents accountable,
and let's hold every single member of Congress accountable when
we make such a huge decision.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Now, I'm just curious, Grace, when you look now at
the situation and the tensions are very, very very high.
My fear and the fear of many in the audience,
is that the Deep State in particular could now use
this as a false flag. In other words, if they

(35:07):
want to drag Trump into this war in Iran, they
could set up an assassination attempt on Trump. This is
openly I mean, people are worried about this. Trump supporters are,
and this way enrage MAGA and dragoon the country into
this war against Iran. The globalists know this, The deep

(35:28):
State knows this that if we get involved in a
full fledged war, this will this will shatter and break
Trump's presidency. Do we have to look out for a
potential false flag assassination attempt on the president to lure
US now into a war against Iran?

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Well, Jesse, that's one of many, many possibilities. But I
think that Donald Trump and Maga, they're wise to these tactics. Now,
I'm not so much concerned about that. What I am
learned about is that Trump might be persuaded by the argument,
coming even from today's editorial in the Wall Street Journal,
that if we provide the adequate armaments, we're going to

(36:11):
end this conflict sooner. That's the argument that they're using.
I'm concerned that he's going to be roped in simply
by the arguments that this is a legacy making moment
for him, that he's going to solve this problem for
all time. All these grandiose visions that I know really
appeal to him. Instead, what he has to recognize is

(36:34):
return to what he did during his first term. Just
provide peace for the next few years, keep us out
of war for the next few years. Don't get roped
into these grandiose visions. I opposed him when he talked
about Panama. I didn't like what he was saying about
Canada and the fifty first State. I hated when he
went on about Greenland. I just want him to do

(36:57):
what he did during the first term. Deliver peace for
four years, and focus on what you promised. This is
what we voted for you to do. We voted for
you to keep your head cool when there is a
war frenzy. It's easy to say no wars when there's
no war frenzy. This is the moment that I want
to see that spine of steel from Donald Trump, and

(37:20):
I want him to keep his promise, keep his head straight,
give us peace for four years. That is an example
that can go forward in the next four years, in
the next four years by other leaders. But don't get
swayed by grandiose visions of permanent solution solving. This is
what I see in creeping in the Trump administration. He

(37:41):
wants like permanent solutions. That is like an ideology that
is very destructive. All you can ever achieve is small,
practical wins and do that every single day, and after
four years you've changed the country. But when you go
for the big grand wins, you really court disaster because

(38:01):
you are you're sailing next to hubris. You know, you're
sailing with hubris instead of with humility. And we need
our leaders to remain humble and wise in every decision
that they make.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Grace, We've got literally one minute left, so I need
you to be very concise and very tight. What's your
prediction Trump's going to make a decision next twenty four
forty eight hours? Will he take us to war or
will he keep us out.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
I'm just concerned the last series of posts on truth
Social I really dislike them. I dislike that he's using
the word we. I dislike that he's saying unconditional surrender.
I dislike the tone. I dislike the direction that he's
going in. I wish he would just return to the
day before. I think that's the path that he should take.

(38:52):
And I hope that he listens to me and you
and many other people who are telling him to stick
to his own his own initial instincts and his promises.
And I'm just hoping for that. I'm seeing a dangerous
trend in these posts, though.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Doctor Grace, putting liberals in their place. Grace woto and
full disclosure, my wonderful wife, my better Yes I did
marry up my better half, Grace. We will talk to
you as always, same time, same place, next week, Grace,
as always, outstanding stuff.