The Big Beautiful Bill

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay again, I just want to stress to everyone out
there in Kooner country. Trust me when I tell you this.
Go to WRKO dot com slash Kooner kuh And is
a national er, click on columns, and there it is.
It's called it's titled A Big Beautiful Winner by Grace Vuoto,

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doctor Grace putting liberals in their place. She backs Trump
on this one thousand percent. She makes an absolutely brilliant
case for the Big Beautiful Bill. And here's what she
points out, And this is why he's got to really
focus now domestically. I understand this is a huge issue Russia, Ukraine,

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the peace talks, a war potentially escalating and expanding and intensifying.
But he's got a rebellion now. And it's not just
from the Democrats who are going to vote lock step
against him. He's got major, powerful Republican senators who now
are going to blow up his bill. And as she

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points out rightly, Trump barely got his bill across through
the House, passed in the House one vote, two fifteen
to two fourteen. And as Grace lays out in her column,
there's so much in this bill that is good for
the United States. It is going to make the Trump

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tax cuts permanent. It fulfills his key campaign promises. No
tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on
social security. I mean, these are middle working class tax
cuts that are going to unleash an economic boom. The

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stock market is going to skyrocket. It is going to
put real money in people's pockets. I mean, we're looking
now at a maybe one of the greatest periods of
economic growth in American history. That alone, but there's so
much more. Twelve billion dollars for border patrol. It will

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permanently secure and seal the border, and it will give
Tom Holman the manpower he needs to start mass deportations
of millions and millions of illegals. So it fulfills everything
he promised on the border and immigration and deportation front.
On national security, national defense, one hundred and seventy five

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billion for the Golden Dome, which, by the way, China, Russia,
and North Korea are losing their minds over. Don't do it.
They say it's going to trigger an arms race. Yeah,
it's going to trigger an arms race. What Reagan did
for Star Wars SDI, That's what the Golden Dome is
going to do for missile defense. It's going to create

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an impregnable defense system that will protect the United States
of America from our worst enemies and adversaries. Plus it
rebuilds our It rebuilds our military, but especially our navy
because we're falling behind China. So what it does is

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it will keep America safe. It will protect and defend
the homeland. It will permanently secure the border. It will
enable him to deport potentially all of the illegals that
Biden are brought in. And it will usher a period
of economic expansion, jobs, and it will lower inflation. By

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the way, it has work requirements for Medicaid. If you're
able bodied, young person and you're on Medicaid, you gotta work.
So it has entitlement reform. It gets rid of a
lot of the waste, fraud, and abuse in Medicaid, especially
all the illegals on medicaid out out. It kicks them

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all off. Now there is an Achilles heel in the bill,
and Johnson was open about this. Speaker Mike Johnson, it
doesn't cut enough. I wish it would cut more. It
needs more deficit reduction. But Johnson was clear about this.
He goes I can't get the right look, he goes,

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I'm working with a two seat majority. I can't get
the Rhinos to vote for it. If we cut too
much spending in the House, It's just it'll work. You're
gonna alienate these people and they're not gonna vote for it,
and Trump's gonna get nothing. It doesn't matter. Listen now

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to Senator Ron Johnson. I played Senator Rick Scott from
Florida saying it doesn't have fifty one votes. It will
never get fifty one votes. Listen now to Senator Ron
Johnson on CNN with Jake Tapper, Roll cut fifteen, Mike.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I have nothing but to support for what President Trump
is trying to do. I love the way he's acting
boldly and swiftly decisively to fix the enormous messes left
by the Biden administration. So from my standpoint, this is
a budget reconciliation process. So we ought to talk about numbers.
One of my disappointments with what the House process is about.

(05:21):
The only number we ever heard about was one point
five trillion, which sounds like a lot, but it's only
one hundred and fifty billion dollars per year. And this
is a put in context of the fact that in
twenty nineteen we spent four point four trillion. This year,
we'll spend over seven trillion dollars, you know, one hundred
and fifty billion dollars on That is basically a rounding air.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
So in other words, it adds too much to the debt,
to the debt bomb, to the deficit. Listen again to
Senator Ron Johnson, and he says, I'm not voting for it.
No matter what, I'm not voting for it. Roll cut
fifteen A Mike.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Let me describe the mess. President Obama averaged about nine
hundred and ten billion dollars of death cints per year.
President Trump in his first three years average about eight
hundred and ten. Then COVID hit over three trillion dollar deficit.
It should have ended there, We should have immediately returned
to a pre pandemic level spending. But President Biden averaged
one point nine trillion dollars of deaficits over his four years,

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and according to CBO, those deathints now averaged two point
two trillion dollars over the next ten years. We'll add
twenty two trillion dollars. And I'm sorry. The House bill
would probably add I've calculated four trillion. You're saying, you
have these independent analysts it's three point three to four trillion.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
We have to reduce the deficit, and so we need
we need to focus on spending, spending, spending, so what
you don't defeat the deep state by funding it.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Now, I'm not saying Ron Johnson and I'm going to
play Ran Paul one more cut on the other side
of the break. I'm not saying they're not making good points. Yes,
we should be returning to pre pandemic levels of spending.
Do not ask for the sky and in theory, he's
completely right. How can we be spending seven trillion now?

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The budget is seven trillion when it was four point
four trillion before the pandemic. I mean, it's insane. But
politics is not about the theoretical. Politics is about the possible.
Six one seven two, six, six, sixty eight sixty eight
is the number. Okay, So you've heard Senator Rick Scott,

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you've heard Senator Ron Johnson. You now I want you
to hear now, Senator Ran Paul. There's a lot of
Senate Republicans, there's a cabal that are dead set against
this bill. They are going to sink it. They're going
to vote against it unless there are trillions and I
mean trillions of dollars in spending cuts. Listen now to

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Senator Ran Paul saying the cuts that were passed in
the House are wimpy and anemic, and that Republicans can
do better, and they must do better. Roll cuts sixteen, Mike.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
You know, the bigger a bill, the more it includes,
the more difficult it is to get everybody to agree
to things. I supported the tax cuts in twenty seventeen.
I support making them permanent, so I support that part
of the bill.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
I support spending cuts.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
I think the cuts currently in the bill are wimpy
and anemic, but I still would support the bill even
with whimpy and anema cuts if they weren't going to
explode the debt. The problem is the math doesn't add up.
They're going to explode the debt by the House is
four trillion. The Senate's actually been talking about exploding the
debt five trillion.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Now, two quick points, and then I want to go
obviously to the phone lines and ask all of you
Kooner country. Notice when Republicans are in power, suddenly everybody's
a fiscal hawk. Have you noticed that when Trump is president,
all of a sudden, now everybody is wanting to be

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a you know, they want to out hawk each other
when it comes to the budget and fiscal issues. Everybody
now is a budget fiscal hawk. Cut trillions, no, not
two trillion, Cut three trillion, No, not cut three, cut four,
don't cut four, cut five. Now, as Grace lays out
again points out, I think exquisitely in her column, look

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at the opposition just to the Doge cuts. Look how
much opposition there was to elon and we're talking about naked,
blatant fat bloat, fraud, abuse, waste of taxpayer money, and
there was already tremendous opposition. Now you're gonna tell me

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that you're gonna come in now with a butcher's knife
and you're gonna slash what medicare, medicaid entitlements across the board.
You're gonna just start cutting spending left, right and center,
and that this thing is gonna pass. It's not gonna pass.
The Rhinos will bolt, the Democrats will demagogue the issue,

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they will vote against it. And so what's gonna happen
in the real world? Not in this fantasy that they
live in, but in the actual real world what's gonna happen.
There won't be the tax cuts being made permanent. There
won't be money to finish the wall and seal the
border and deport millions and millions of illegals. That's not

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gonna happen. Trump's not gonna get his Golden Dome. We're
not gonna rebuild our military. I could go on and on.
You're not gonna get any work requirements in Medicaid. You're
not even gonna get the illegals kicked off Medicaid, the
one point four million. So, in other words, you're gonna
sabotage Trump's presidency. Now they're trying to make it seem

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I understand where they're coming from that these are deficit hawks.
The debt. The deficit is under control. You know, we
need to get it under control. It's a taking time bomb.
Where have you guys been for the last decade, That's
what I'd like to know. So, now, with Trump's presidency
on the line, literally on the line, with him now

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maybe achieving the greatest accomplishment of his entire two terms
in office, this bill passes. Trust me, when I tell
you this, the economy will boom. We're gonna we're talking
millions of jobs, trillions of dollars is gonna pour in.

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You're talking now about a massive wave that's gonna lift
all boats. Never mind a finally securing the border, never
mind everything, rebuilding our military and our national and our
national defense, never mind actually implementing some of the DOGE
cuts recommended by Elon. Now, if you're really serious about

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the debt and the deficit, and I hope Trump comes
back with this argument, you can come back and make
more decisions. Pass the bill, let Trump sign it into law,
and then you can always come up and pass spending cuts.
It's not you know now or never. The way they're

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portraying is if we don't cut trillions, now, it's over.
It's not over. You're not interested in really cutting the debt.
I don't believe them because you've never done it, So
why would you suddenly care? Now? You just notice how
notice fake Tapper when he has Ron Johnson good points there.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Ron.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
See the Libs love this because now you have Republican
in fighting. You have Republicans against each other, Republican division,
Republicans at each other's throat. They know if the big
beautiful bill gets blown up, Trump's presidency gets blown up.

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So to me, I would ring Ron Johnson's phone off
the hook, ran Paul's phone off the hook, Rick Scott's
phone off the hook. Past the damn bill, Seriously, dude,
past the damn bill, because we're not going to get
that wall. We're not going to get a booming economy.
We're not gonna get tax cuts. We're not gonna get

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no tax on tips and no tax on overtime and
no tax on Social Security. And you can kiss the
Golden Dome goodbye. And the illegals are still going to
be on welfare, and they're still gonna be on Medicaid.
So you want to take away what is so freaking
good in this bill that will do so much for

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this country. You're gonna take that all away for these
illusionary cuts that you will never pass in the House.
I don't know what these people are smoking. You think
the Rhinos with a two seat majority, you think the
Rhinos are gonna vote for four trillion dollars in budget cuts.

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They could barely swallow one hundred and fifty billion in
cuts two fifteen to two fourteen you think they're gonna
swallow three five, four, five trillion. No, I think I
knowed where the cocaine in the White House, in Biden's
White House came from. It didn't. It wasn't for Hunter.

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It was for these guys in the Senate. So no
pass the bill as is. You know, everybody now is
a born again deficit hawk only when Trump's in power.
Have you noticed that? Six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight agree, disagree? Jim in Florida. Thanks

(15:02):
for holding Jim and welcome.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
Hey. Hey, how's it going good. I'm hanging in. Do
you mind if I go back to the hut?

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah? Yeah, go ahead. It's all It's all on the table.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
Jim, okay, because yeah, that's what I was on for
I yeah, okay. I'm gonna differ with Larry Uh. You
know he was saying that that Putin had you know,
he's got it, he's got to save face and all that.
I I don't agree with that. I I think he
had he had an exit already. I think the problem

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was that now that this assassination attempt happened, you gotta
you gotta think if you're in Russia, think how the
Russian people, what they're hearing from their media, you know,
and what their citizenry are hearing there. I guarantee you
they think that this was staged and done before he

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you know, you're.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Still there, Yeah, go ahead, Jim.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Okay, I'm sorry, hurt.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
So yeah, no, no, it's okay now that they think this
would happen before Putin launched his missile and drone strikes.
So yeah, they see it as retaliation for By the way,
it's illegal to try to kill a head of state
in the key.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
And the key with that is now now he has
to now he has to stay face over that that
that's what's going on. He because that's a huge deal
within the you know, politically in Russia. You can't take
you know, and plus to Putin's ego.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
And Jim, can you please hang on, I'm going to
take you on the other side. Now, the Trump's president. Everybody,
Now we're we've got to cut trillions everybody, now, it's
just this is amazing. Anyway, nine point fifty on the
Great w r KO Jeff Cooner, Boston's Bulldozer. Okay, let's

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go right back to Jim in Florida. Jim, look, you
are making a very good point, frankly, a historically culturally
very sensitive point. And I mean that in a good
way in terms of understanding the Russian psyche, the Russian mind,
Russian culture, and how Russians think. And you're saying, look, Jeff,
they just tried to assassinate Pooh, the Ukrainians did. If

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you know anything about Russian politics and the Russian people,
you don't respond, You look weak, You look weak, You
get destroyed, you get rolled. So Putin almost had no
choice but to respond with fire and fury. Am I
summing up your position accurately? Jim?

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yes, yes, you are here. Here's the silver lining he's
before that happened, he had This is where I disagree
to with Larry. He had enough because look, NATO was
really what this the crux of everything, I think, you know,
pushing NATO into their backyard. And he and he and
he was able to that, you know, And that was

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what Trump put on the table. So he has enough
to bring to his people. If that deal had been
made politically, Putin wouldn't have been hurt in Russia. He
would have held power and he would have said, look,
we kept NATO out, and we got and we got
the dombass back, so I think he had enough. This
is a dangerous thing that just happened with this whole

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flare up. It's very dangerous. But the silver lining is
he's kind of overreached. Putin is overreached by doing what
he did. He had to do it because of his
own country, but he's it's also made him overreach. So
that gives Trump an opportunity and he and I think
he's doing the right thing. He says, look, you either
deal now we're going to hit you, you know, or
we're going to hit you with major sanctions and cripple

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you economically and make a deal. And in the meantime,
Zelensky's got to get his head straight, you know. Otherwise
the biggest problem right now to me seems to be Zelenski.
He should because if he keeps pushing then then we're
back to the Euros trying to draw us and and
Trump's not going to go for that.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
So and Jim, in the end, who will pay the price.
It'll be the Ukrainian people, It won't be Zelenski. You're right,
what is he now? Worth over a billion dollars? Not
so much at least that he's stolen and his cronies
around him. So even worst case scenario, Ukraine really loses
the war and his people turn on him, he's just

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going to leave and go into exile. I mean he'll
be looking over his back, yes, but he's going to
have mansions, he's going to have, you know, a yachts,
he's going to have a luxury cars. He's going to
be a multi billionaire. So he's the one that's made
out like a bandit. So in the end, you're right,
it's going to be more ordinary Ukrainians who are going

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to be doing the fighting and the dying. And that's
why I think Trump really has shown himself to be
a man of peace and a man of a big heart.
He wants the fighting and the dying to end, and
it this war is on is on Zelensky's hands and
on Putin's hands, and that's why, for the stake of everybody,
it's time for peace. Jim, thank you very much for

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that call. I really appreciate it. Kathy in Rochester, thanks
for holding kafy and welcome.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
Good morning, Jeff Tott. You were talking about President Trump's
big Beautiful bill. However, there is a section in there
that everyone needs to be aware of. And I'm sure
you've seen people talking about this online. And it is
section four three two oh one and buried in his
big beautiful bill. It's a clause that would band states

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from regulating artificial intelligence for ten years. This is very,
very dangerous and a lot of people who want to
protect our First Amendment rights and you know, prevent us
from ever being mandated or having any kind of experimentation
done on us without our consensus. You are really afraid

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of this. And it basically says that no state or
political subdivision may enforce any law or regulation regulating artificial
intelligence models, artificial intelligence systems, or automated decision systems during
the ten year period beginning on the date of the
enactment of this Act. This is so dangerous. People need

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to look it up. It's section four three two zero one,
sub Section C. Karen Kingston, who is someone that I
really admire, who has made it her mission as a
Christian to expose Pfizer and Big Farmer for all their
evil doings during the COVID lockdown. She is out of
her mind with us. This is bad and this is

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something that you know, if they may changes to the bill.
This is a cause that needs to be removed. So
I hope all you'll listen.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Cathy, I'm aware of that. I get Karen Kingston. She
sends me her sub stock work or columns all the time.
I think she does marvelous work. Look, I think it's unconstitutional.
That provision I believe is unconstitutional. And it's also a
payoff to big tech. There's no question the states should
be able to regulate AI. They should regulate AI. So

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this was a big payoff to big tech and to
their donors. And you're right it should be taken out.
If they came out and said that, I'd say, oh amen,
I'd be with you one thousand percent. But they're going
on about three four five trillion dollars in cuts, and
I'm like, you're only doing this now to sabotage the bill.

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You must know that. I don't mean you as in
you I'm talking about Johnson and ran Paul and all
these others. No, you know it's going to make it
impossible to pass in the House, which means then there's
gonna be no big beautiful bill. You're gonna get nothing,
literally nothing,