The DC Helicopter Crash Cover Up

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, cooner contrary. Okay, my friends, a lot and
I mean a lot to talk about today. But here
is a story that you probably haven't heard or haven't
seen over the last forty eight to seventy two hours
because the fake news, corrupt corporate media, and my god,

(00:22):
are they corrupt don't want you to hear or see
this story. Why Because another media lie, another media hoax
has been exposed. If you remember, there was a horrific
crash early in Trump's presidency in which an American Airlines

(00:50):
flight was flew into a US Army Blackhawk helicopter and
there was a collision right near Reagan National Airport, and
sixty four people died on the American Airlines flight and
three pilots in the black Hawk were killed, sixty seven

(01:13):
people dead in all. And immediately immediately the media began
with their narrative, their false narrative that this was because
there were not enough air traffic controllers at Reagan Airport.
This was because of Trump and Mosque and Doge and

(01:36):
too many cutbacks, too quickly, too soon, They kept saying,
over and over again, there was only one controller overseeing
the descent of the flight and coordinating the Blackhawk as
it navigated around the airport. And so what the media
strongly implied was that this accident is mid air collision

(02:02):
was caused not by pilot error, No no, no, no, not
because the a fundamental mistake was made within one of
the two cockpits. No, it was Donald Trump. Trump was
to blame, Elon was to blame. Not enough air traffic

(02:24):
controllers was to blame. Doge was to blame. That Trump
had blood on his hands, sixty seven dead people to
be exact. Well, and you can see that there was
a coward. Something smelled wrong from the beginning because they
only there were three pilots on that Blackhawk helicopter. They

(02:46):
released the names of two of them, and that was
Staff Sergeant Ryan Austin O'Hara, twenty eight years old, Georgia
Chief Warrant Officer Andrew Lloyd Eves thirty nine of Great Mills, Maryland.
But the third name they kept refusing to release the

(03:08):
third name, and eventually they did. But why did they
wait so long? They waited days and days and days
after the crash so they the military could scrub her
social media and that should have told us everything. The

(03:30):
third pilot's name was Rebecca Lobatch robacch. Don't take my
word for it. Look it up now after an exhaustive report.
Guess what it wasn't air traffic Control's fault. There could
have been two four eight sixteen. There could have been

(03:54):
one hundred people in air traffic control. That was not
the problem. The problem, my friends, was pilot error. The problem,
my friends, was that Rebecca Lobatch, as we suspected at
the time and now has beneficially confirmed, was a DEI higher.

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She only had forty five hours flying experience. More than that,
she served as an aide to Joey to dementia Joe
at the you know, to then president or just before
the accident, to President Joe Biden, and so she was

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politically connected. She was a young female, up and coming
g I Jane, and they said, you know what, we
want her as a co pilot. We want her helping
to guide and spearhead is black Hawk helicopter. And that's

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what ultimately got everybody killed. According now to new details
about the fatal crash, it has now come out that
Rebecca Lobatch repeatedly, and I mean repeatedly, ignored warning after
warning from her male co pilot, the Army flight instructor

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who was at the right seat. Okay, he was right
beside her, that she had to turn away. He kept
saying over and over, playing coming turn away, plane, coming,
turn away, and instead she literally flew straight into the

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passenger jet. Now, according to the New York Tanks, and
you know me, I rarely quote the New York Times,
but they got the report, and they published the report,
as did many other media outlets, and then they tried
to sweep it under the rug because the fallout now
from this is going to be immense. But in the

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Sunday New York Times quote, not only was the black
Hawk flying too high, but in the final seconds before
the crash, its pilot failed to heed a directive from
her copilot and Army flight instructor to change course. The
Blackhawk was fifteen seconds away from crossing paths with the jet.

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Warrant Officer Eves then turned his attention to Captain Lobatch.
He told her he believed that air traffic control wanted
them to turn left toward the east bank, toward the
East River Bank. Turning left would have opened up more
space between the helicopter and Flight five three four to two,

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which was heading for runway thirty three at an altitude
of roughly three hundred feet, and then the fatal mistake
she did not turn left. In fact, what is now
clear in the report is that she deliberately did not
turn left. Now, there are only two possible conclusions that

(07:22):
you can draw from this, Okay, it's only it's door
one or door two either this woman, And I don't
think it is door one. To be honest, I don't
think so. I don't think there's any evidence, but I
don't know. They scrubbed the social media page, so who
knows what she said on her social media page? And
who knows what the military is trying to cover up?
Because there was tremendous pressure on her to be a

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very successful pilot, because she wanted to be one of
these leading women who are able to handle a Blackhawk,
and the Biden regime made a big deal about it,
and there were a lot of hot profile pieces on
her beforehand, and she was close to Joe. Was this suicide?

(08:04):
Was this suicide? Was this intentional? Did she intentionally not
turn left and take that, you know, pilot that black
Hawk straight into the plane? Did she commit suicide? And
in the or God forbid terrorism. I don't think that is,
but God forbid terrorism and kill sixty seven people, or

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which is what I think is the much more likelier scenario.
But again, I'm open if people wanted to, you know,
talk to me about this, but I'm definitely open. I'm
not you know, wedded to this position. But to me,
the second option is she froze, she panicked, She panicked.

(08:52):
It's not so much that she wanted to deliberately put
the black Hawk into the plane and kill herself and
kill everybody. Again, although I'd love to see social media
page now, I'd love to have a more thorough investigation
of what she was saying in private on email to
her friends, text messages. But to me, the more likelier

(09:12):
scenario is she was not ready to be a black
Hawk coal pilot. She shouldn't have been flying that helicopter
on that day. Diversity equity inclusion DEI equals die. When
you put people in positions that they are not capable

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of and haven't earned the merit the right to be there,
especially in very dangerous positions and jobs, this is what
usually happens. People get killed. And so when they saw
the airplane flying right at them at the exact same altitude,

(10:00):
barreling down at high speed, and her male co pilot,
the flight instructor, said turn left, turn left, turn left.
She just froze. She wasn't ready to pilot the black
Hawk helicopter. They promoted her too high, too fast, because
they wanted a female co pilot at all costs. This

(10:24):
is now the new It was Biden's military, it was
the Gi Jane military. And because of this, and now
there's no disputing it. This has nothing to do with
the air traffic control. It doesn't matter one two four eight,
It doesn't matter. Nothing to do with DOGE. This accident

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was preventable, okay. The co pilot's name the Lake Now
obviously sadly she passed away, Rebecca Lobatch. It has now
come out through an internal investigation by the military that
she clearly was the one responsible for what happened at
Reagan National Airport, that tragic midair collision between a passenger

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jet sixty four people on board, and the Blackhawk helicopter
that she was co piloting. Three service members on board,
sixty seven people dead in all. As I said, as
I was leaving the Breakdi murdered sixty seven people. Another

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media hoax exposed. The media lied again. Nothing to do
with air traffic control, how many controllers? Donald Trump cutting
the federal bureaucracy, elon Mosque, That's what the media kept
pushing and pushing and pushing. Instead, it was a female pilot,

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an aid to Joe Biden, inexperienced, clearly was not ready
for prime time, who either committed suicide. I mean, I'm
just giving you what. They didn't make any conclusions. They
just said was repeatedly told by her flight instructor, a
male copilot. Turn left, turn left, turn left. The passenger

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jet is coming in at three hundred feet at that
same altitude, and this was about fifteen seconds before the
actual collision. Turn left, in other words, get out of
its path. And she just kept going and flew right
into the jet, I mean right into the jet. So

(12:38):
either this woman had some kind of a death wish,
either this was suicide or terrorism or which I don't
think it is. But then again, I don't want to
keep repeating myself, but it does bear repeating. They took
three days to scrub her social media page. Everybody was
saying there were three pilots two men, one woman, Rebecca Lobatch.

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Why is it that the two male pilots co pilots
their names were released immediately, but her name the military
kept secret. They refused to release it. Well, it turns
out because they needed time, days and days and days
to scrub her social media clean clean. Why why now

(13:29):
you can speculate till the cows come home. Was it
because she was mentally ill? I'm not saying she was
and they were trying to cover that up. Did she
have I don't know, suicidal thoughts. Was it because she
was maybe a terrorist? Again, I don't think any of that,

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or were they covering it up because if you looked
at her social media you could probably tell this woman
is not ready to co pilot a Blackhawk helicopter with
so many jets and planes coming in at such high
speeds in one of the most congested airports in the world.

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That's the problem. When the government begins to cover stuff up,
it unleashes all kinds of speculation, questions, conspiracy theories. I
think they're just covering up the fact. Personally, Again, I
could be wrong that she was a clear DEI higher
that they promoted her to a position she had no

(14:35):
business having. And because of this, the military and the
people who promoted her, and these Rae Biden's people, because
remember she was an aid to Joey, to Joe Biden.
And now because of that, sixty seven people are dead,
including Rebecca Lobach herself. DEI equals die now, I just

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before I open up to the phone line six one
seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight is the number.
This is from Larry on messenger. As you know, by
the way, Larry, I want to publicly I know I
did it privately, but I want to publicly thank you
again Larry for showing up at the rally on Thursday
providing security right on my right side with the bulletproof vest.

(15:25):
There you are protecting me and I cannot thank you enough,
and you'll never know how much I appreciate it. You're
not just a great patriot, you are a great friend.
And so Larry, Air Force veteran served many years in
the Air Force. This is what Larry messaged me on messenger.
Good morning, Jeff, Well, good morning to you, Larry. In

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my position in the United States Air Force, we had
to deal with a phenomenon called prop hypnotism airmen could
literally be hypnotized by focusing on the spinning engine props
and occasionally start walking towards them. My thinking is, like

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you said, she got too focused on an object and
locked up. Larry. Look, you may be right, you're the expert.
I'm not slight disagreement, not even disagreement. Look, I could
be wrong. I didn't even think it was she's hypnotized
by the engine coming at her. And this happens. You say,

(16:34):
too many pilots or could and you have to train
against it, and you know better than I do, so
I defer to you. Okay, I think it was just
pure she choked. Honestly, I think you're almost giving her
or giving this too much technical credit. I think it
was she wasn't ready. They put her in the plane

(16:56):
or the helicopter. Forgive me. She was co piloting. She
should never have been. Yeah, she was fine to take
a black Hawk up and down, but not to navigate
such a congested airport with planes flying in at such
high speed. I think clearly now that's it's obvious. And
I think at that speed, coming in at that altitude,

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and the co pilot's like turn left, turn left, turn,
life like, you know, like my God, like go turn,
turn turn. I think she just literally froze, just you know,
out of panic. Sheer panic, just and boom. Now I
could be wrong, you could be right, but that's what
I honestly think happened. Agree, disagree six one seven two

(17:41):
six six sixty eight sixty eight. This is from Mark
on Messenger, and again he always kills it, Jeff. Here
we have another case of a DEI higher not doing
her job and are incompetence, and the people that put
her in this position responsible for the deaths of those

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poor people. How about instead of worrying about DEEI and
hiring people, we hire people that can actually do the job.
And just a reminder, Jeff, these were not Trump's policies,
because you know people want to and are trying to
blame him for it. He's getting rid of DEI And

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by the way, the media is going thunderdome on Trump
for doing that, as is the left and the Democrats.
All right, says Fast, says m Such says them, and
He's like, no, look at my cabinet, Look at my
how many women I have in top positions. But you
don't just put someone in because of a certain race

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or a certain gender because you've got to hit a quota. Okay,
lines are jammed, But when the lines are jammed, I
always want to go right to the call's best audience
in the business. Just super quick day, our Western PA
constitutionalist correspondent may around the Pittsburgh area, Western Pennsylvania. He's

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there for us, monitoring stuff on the ground. He's also
a marine, longtime veteran, and he wanted me to relay
this to the entire audience, the great audience of Cooner Country. Jeff,
good morning, my buddy, and my friend. Well, good morning
to you, Dave. I am hearing from my connections that
the co pilot, the female co pilot, Rebecca Lobatch, was inexperienced, inexperienced,

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and the media as usual lied, and look, this has
got to end. That's why I'm with Trump again on
this issue. And like on so many we're talking now
about not just the wrong person for the job, right,
people losing jobs and positions they've earned and worked for

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and deserve. We're now talking about people getting killed. Sixty
seven people are now dead. And again it's not because
a woman can't be a co pilot, obviously, it's that
you're rushing and she was young, she was very young.
You're you're rushing people into positions that they are not

(20:17):
ready for, they're incompetent because you want to put a
new face on the military, or you want to take
it in a new woke direction. And so it's no
longer merit that's driving your decisions. It's ideology, it's politics,
it's social engineering. There had to be a female co pilot, young,

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close to Biden, someone that they had been plugging and promoting.
So they put her in that black Hawk helicopter, and
God forbid. Usually it doesn't get you killed. Usually you
don't have a plane flying, you know, top speed at
three hundred feet right on the path of where you're

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going as well. But this time it did. And when
she was told repeatedly turn left, turn left, turn left,
and she's you know, she's not doing anything, she locked up.
She froze and boom, massive mid air collision. Sixty seven dead.

(21:24):
Let me just read one more. This is from Marianne
in Florida. Jeff Joe Biden murdered sixty seven people. Blood
on his hands again. But quite honestly, God himself could
come down and tell these liberals that it was her error,

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and they're still going to blame Trump elon anybody and
everybody that had nothing to do with it. You're still
going to see those comments, mark my words, Jeff. And
then she adds, what am I saying, God himself? They
don't believe in God. That's a that's a very good point, Marianne.

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But really, God himself could come down and say, Rebecca
Lobatch did it. She made the error. She's responsible. Trump Trump,
but Trump Trump elon lunch Trump, Trump, Trump Elon Elon.
I mean that's like like like you know, like a

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like a like a rabbit dog, like a trained seal,
Trump Trump Trump. So you're right, You're completely right to me.
What's incredible? This is a bombshell report. I mean, do
you remember how much media coverageing was wall to wall.
It went on for days. It was, forget the biggest
story in the country, was the biggest story in the world,

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and they blamed it through it right at the feet
of Trump and a dolge and these cutbacks and he's
getting us killed old and it turns out it was DEI.
You put a female co pilot that had no business
being in that black hawk. And can you just imagine

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being the two co pilots. You know, okay, turn left,
no turn left, turn left, turn and you realize, oh
my god, she's not gonna do anything. She's not gonna
do anything, and you're gonna die. Can you imagine being
those poor people in that passenger jet. You think you're landing,

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you're getting ready landing, see family, go back home, your wife,
your husband, your children, whatever it may be, and fifteen
seconds later you're dead. It's just incredible. And how the
military is desperately trying to cover this up, cover it up,
sweep it under the rug, move on, just move on

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like it never happened. People need to be held accountable,
heads need to roll a justice demands it. But b
and this is my final point, because I want to
go to the phone lines. We don't want this to
happen again. If you don't get rid of DEI, it's
gonna happen again. Am I wrong? So let me ask

(24:24):
all of you, Okay, do you think it was a suicide.
That's what some of the chatter on social media is.
I don't, but I want to hear from you. Was
this possibly even terrorism? I don't believe it. But that's
what some of the chatter is. Or do you think
she just froze and panicked? And why was the military

(24:44):
so determined to not release Rebecca Lobatch's name It took
days and days, And why did they scrub her social media?
What was on her social media that they didn't want
the public to know? Six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight lines are loaded. Jim in Wilmington,

(25:10):
you're gonna kick us off, Jim, thanks for holding and welcome.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Hi Jeff, listen again. I got the news a couple
of weeks ago from my brother in regards to this,
and he told me that there was some arguing going
on with that young woman and her last words were
don't f with me. And he got that in Vegas.

(25:35):
He's in Vegas. So two weeks ago we had.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Jim, Sorry, there was an argument with her in the cockpit,
like I'm among her fellow co pilots.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
And her last words were, don't f with me.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
I get.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
I don't know if it's true, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
But wow, wow, So you're saying, Jim, what you heard again,
it's unverified, it's uncorroborated, but it's chilling, though they had
some kind of an argument. Maybe she felt very defensive,
very insecure because they were telling her, hey, be careful,
you're making mistakes or whatever. And they start going back

(26:16):
and forth and like, yeah, I'm gonna show you turn left.
Blank you I'm not turning left. Man, you got sixty
seven people dead. Jim, do you think in the end
was this you two incompetence or do you think this
woman had some kind of a secret death wish?

Speaker 2 (26:35):
I think both. But you know, obviously if she's arguing
she shouldn't have been in that helicopter parient. You know,
you got to listen to instructors and just superiors. That's life.
We all have to do it. We all answer to someone.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Oh I agree forget a plane. Even in a car.
You know when when you first learn how to drive,
like you know, as she's gonna start to learn how
to drive soon, and I said, listen, I'm gonna pay
for you know, these lessons, and an instructor. You listen
to the instructor. You know he or she is the boss.
When they say break, you break, when they say turn
you turn, I'm not gonna stand there and argue with them. Ay,

(27:18):
they know you don't be You're gonna get yourself into
an accident or get yourself killed, and you're gonna do
that in a in a in a Blackhawk late at
night at an airport one of the most congested, you know,
traffic airports in the world, with planes coming in at
high speed at three four hundred feet a ya yai

(27:42):
ay ya yaie Jim, thank you very very much, really
good call six one seven two six six sixty eight
sixty eight.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Many of you are texting to cooner man Jeff, what
about Trump's one hundred days? Okay? Please please, you have
to listen to this. Okay, this is gonna blow your mind,
blow your mind. Whatever you're doing, stop, you need to
hear this. So remember Larry who messaged me earlier, air
Force pilot, many years experience flying planes in the US

(28:15):
Air Force. Here's what he wrote me, Jeff, look at
it this way. Working forty hours a week for a
year minus two weeks off vacation, that's two thousand working
hours two thousand flying hours equates to a working year

(28:36):
of flying. She didn't have nearly the hours to be
in such heavy traffic. Now many of you may be asking,
jeeh half jeeh half jef haf Okay, so she was
supposed to have at least two thousand hours. Well, how
onney did she have? I don't know, five hundred and

(29:00):
come on, Jeff, two hundred eh, Jeff, come on, man,
one hundred hours flying a black Eh. She had forty
five hours.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
That's it. And so I went back to Larry off Air.
I messaged him back and I said, Larry, I mean
maybe black Hawks are different than you know, I don't
know planes or other choppers or other helicopters. And he said, look,
let me compare it to you this way. That's like
taking a kid, take car Astion in about a year

(29:37):
when he turned sixteen, with forty five hours behind the wheel,
and then you put them you know those Formula one
race cars in a Lamans, You know those super fast
Formula one race cars where you need lightning reflexes. Let
you know, an incredible ability to navigate incredibly high speeds.

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I mean, these people are insane. They're insane. And yes,
you can look it up. She only had forty five
hours flight experience. Forty five hours. That's it. That's it,
that's it. Okay. This is from Stephen on Messenger, and
I think he makes a very interesting point. Good morning, Jeff.

(30:23):
I believe it may very well have been suicide, because
if she was posting on her social media that she
was depressed or she had anger issues towards Trump and
couldn't live under a Trump administration, that would be something
the army would want to get rid of, and possibly

(30:43):
why they didn't release her name so quickly so other
people can find out the information. I believe suicide is
actually plausible and most likely interesting. Okay, well, I mean,
if she was posting on social media, you know, I'm
depressed or I hate Trump, or I'm not happy or

(31:06):
oh my god, how are we going to live under
a Trump presidency? Remember, she was a very you know,
she was an ad to Biden, so she was a
Democrat and she was a BIDENI sta. So yeah, maybe
maybe you know, who knows, Maybe she was battling depression
or whatever, suicidal thoughts or who knows. But again, they

(31:29):
scrubbed the social media, and so all we can do
is speculate. Six one seven two, six, six sixty eight
sixty eight is the number. Okay, what do you think
happened and why? Rick In Tennessee. Thanks for holding Rick,
and welcome.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
According Jeff hi Rick, first of all, according to the
Army Time, as the official news media magazine from the
US Army, she had four one hundred and fifty hours.
Her rank was captain. The instructor pilot that was giving
her her check ride was a warrant officer, which would

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mean in terms of position, he a warrant officer is
a lower rank than a captain, so she outranked him. However,
in an aircraft and on a test ride was quite
especially in helicopters blackhawks, it's quite common to have your

(32:34):
instructor to be a warrant officer. They're just in that
position more often. He had about nine hundred hours. So
I don't know where everybody else is getting their figures
of their number, but this is from the official US
Army Times publication.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Oh interesting, Okay, now, Rick, leaving me to cut you off,
I promise I'll let you finish. You have my word.
Let's say it was four fifty. I'm going by media accounts,
and you know, maybe they just forget to put into zero, okay,
which to me is a huge difference. But you know,
let that go. Rick. Let's say it was four fifty,
And I believe you, and you're quoting the Army Times,
and so I have no reason to doubt what you're saying.

(33:14):
So it's four hundred and fifty. Is four hundred and
fifty enough in your view? Is that enough?

Speaker 2 (33:24):
No?

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Are you talking to me?

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yes? Yes, Rick, Please go ahead.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Oh, I'm sorry. You said you were going to well,
she was being she was on a Chuck flight. They
were training her to fly the helicopter at night. And
you have to another thing. A lot people aren't. No,
I haven't heard anybody explain she belonged to a unit

(33:49):
or this particular aviation unit that she was she flew in.
Their primary job was military personnel transport. Uh. They flew
high ranking military officers and Pentagon officials and politicians from

(34:11):
to Reagan International Airport that was there. That was their
primary function of their mission in that unit.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
She was.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
They were also doing uh night night she was wearing.
They were training her with night goggles night for you know,
flying at night. It's these headsets that you see them
where that's allow laws of pilot, any pilot to see
in the you know, to have better vision at night.
It was in a highly congested area. A lot of

(34:45):
people are speculating that that's not a good mix to
have trainee essentially a trainee trainees being being trained, being
checked out using night goggles, night observation goggles in that
heavily air corridor. You know, usually when there was a crash,

(35:06):
it's not just one thing that happens or one incident,
it's it's a series of accidents. Other people are speculating
that there was with that they didn't receive the information
from the from the ATC to tower. That apparently when
the power was going to speak to her the aircraftic controller,

(35:28):
another pilot keyed iss mike and would cancel. So the
technology there is suspect. However, the bottom line is the
person that's the air this the instructor pilot who's teaching
or training the the pilot in that particular mission. It's

(35:50):
Heath incumbent on him to make sure the aircraft is safe.
My question to you is, from what I've read they
had about he said he clarently heard that air Traffic
Control broadcast telling them to turn left, turn left. He
said it apparently his words were something to tell the
effect ATC says turn left, turn left, fifteen seconds. She

(36:14):
didn't do anything. She froze for fifteen seconds, and then
we all know what happened. She actually flew into the
side of that aircraft. My question is, why didn't that
instructor pilot immediately take control of the overrider.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah, overrider basically take control of the stick. Great question, Rick,
that's a great question. That's an absolutely brilliant question. Look,
I think it's pretty obvious now, you know, just talking,
listening to you and putting again, the audience is the
best in the business, and you just put everything, all
the pieces together. Let's just objectively, okay, just as just

(36:53):
as objectively as we can. They took a female pilot
copilot who was being promote heavily by the Biden administration.
She had close ties to Biden himself. They wanted to
make her a kind of a poster child for their
new military, their dei military, their woke military, and they

(37:14):
began to put her in almost in an impossible situation
the way you described it. Flying at night, you need
all of these night goggles. It's very hard to see.
It's dark. You're in one of the most trafficked congested
airports in the world. I mean this is not easy.
This is very hard, and she's the co pilot. Now

(37:37):
I can just go by what the report says. I'm
a prisoner of the report. According to the report, they
claimed that the instructor the copilot, but the instructor, the
male instructor, was saying, you know, air traffic control is
saying turn left, turn left ATC turn left, turn left.

(37:59):
So he told several times, turn left, turn left. She didn't.
She froze. She literally froze. Now what begs the question
is why didn't he grab the controls himself? Why was
he under orders not to? Would this be considered sexism

(38:21):
or discrimination? Was? I mean, I want to know more
of the backstory, right, whether they're under tremendous pressure to
get this woman, you know, to be a black Hawk pilot,
and you cut corners, and you want to make sure
that you know she you know, in other words, we're
gonna make her a black Hawk pilot. You do whatever
it takes, okay, And I don't want to hear any

(38:44):
you know, any complaints from her. So this is what
I mean. Look, Rick, to take it a little bit
out of this and just overall, in every Marxist society
in the world and dei is a form of Marxism.
I'll give you an example. In Cambodia. Paul Pott was
determined that he was going to get rid of the

(39:06):
city elites, the elites in the urban areas, and so
he didn't just take them and have them go. I mean,
I'm not making this up. He took them, grabbed them
and had them work in the rice patties. He turned
them into farmers overnight. Well, you know doctors, dentists, you
know eye doctors, accountants, they are not farmers. They don't

(39:30):
know how to farm. It's not a question of being
lazy or not lazy or not wanting to get their
hands dirty. They just don't know how to farm. So
he took these professionals, highly educated professionals, put them in
the rice paddies, and said, I want you to farm,
Go move, produce rice. And then he took the peasants,

(39:51):
many of whom were functionally literate, again through no fault
of their own, and put him in the cities and said,
you're going to be a doctor. You're gonna be an
eye doctor, you're gonna be a nurse, you're gonna be
an accountant, you're gonna be a you know, you know
you're you're gonna be a professional. The whole society collapsed,

(40:11):
massive starvation, famine. Uh, people were dying in hospitals, people.
I mean, it was just an absolute disaster. So now
it's not as extreme as that. But my point is
when you take people who are clearly not qualified for
the job, not ready for the job, not able to

(40:34):
do the job, and you force them into it, people die.
It's not just that the job is horrible. It's not
just that you get shabby quality. It's worse than that.
People die. And I think what's clear Rick, however you

(40:54):
look at it. They pushed Rebecca Lobatch to be a
black Hawk coal pilot at a pace, a speed, and
it's in a schedule and an intensity that she clearly
was not ready for. Maybe she was never ready for it,
but at that time she clearly wasn't ready for it.

(41:15):
And sixty seven people are dead. And to me, where
heads need to roll they need to roll is we've
got sixty seven dead. And then the cover up, why
are you scrubbing her social media? To me, I'm sorry,

(41:35):
if a mistake was made, fine, mistakes happened. I mean,
it's not fine, it's bad, but okay, mistakes happen, so
let's get to the truth. Why did it happen so
we can fix it. It never happens again. But when I
hear that there and they scrubbed it clean clean, now
I know something nefarious is going on. They wanted her

(41:59):
to be the next g I Jane g I Jane
two point zero and it ended up costing the lives
of sixty seven people. Uh. And again, I think you're
right that co pilot, the instructor, should have overridden her.
He should have grabbed that stick. Why didn't he That's
another question that needs to be answered. Or was he

(42:20):
ordered not to. Maybe there were issues with her in
prior at test runs and he said, no, you're doing
it wrong or whatever. Hey, and he takes over the
stick and she, you know, she gives him the business
and she says, how dare you talk to me like this?
Or how dare you do this to me? And she
reports him to her superiors or whatever, and they give

(42:43):
him a tongue lashing and he's like, Okay, I'm not
going to touch anything. I mean, if I tout it,
it's I'm the bad guy. See, I want to know
the full backstory, but they were determined to make her
a black Hawk helicopter come hell or high water. And
you've got sixty seven people dead. And what's disgusting above all, Rick,

(43:04):
the media knew this because I was saying it. Many
of you were saying it the day after the crash.
So if we knew it, if we said if we
can sense it, smell it, suspect it. Within twenty four
hours of the crash, the media didn't no distract and deflect.

(43:30):
Sixty seven people are dead. Forget the real cause and
the real reason. Blame Trump, Go after Donald Trump. Blame Trump.
That's why Rick, I hate him. I mean that they
have no conscience, they have no soul. To me, they're
the devil. That's why I have no respect for the

(43:52):
media in this country. As Donald Trump famously said, they
are the enemy of the people. And here's another example, Rick,
thank you very much for that call. Really good, thoughtful call,
Victor in Georgetown. Thanks for holding Victor, and welcome.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
Doing the man. You know, the reason I love Donald
Trump is that he expects excellence from himself and he
expects excellence from the people that he puts in power.
And let's hope he keeps doing a great job. But
let me tell you this, I've got over one thousand
hours as a helicopter crew chief, so I'm going to

(44:33):
be able to paint a picture for your audience that
they're going to understand what happened. Number one, you're right,
the report is the news report that there were three
pilots is wrong. The warrant officer, the co pilot, the
lady and then the safsageant was the crew chief on
the aircraft. Crew chief runs everything behind the pilots, make

(44:55):
sure the hydraulics are working, everything is working properly. So
if you can imagine, Jeff, you're sitting in your car,
you're you've got the steering wheel. Well in the helicopter
crew chief, there's two sets of staring wheels. If he will,
there's two sets of brakes. There's two accelerators. The pilot
and the co pilot have exact same controls. Now, the

(45:18):
pilot is what we call a hat a good hack.
It's called a helicopter aircraft commander hack. That means he's
a bleep in boss. When I was in Vietnam, would
pick up a general to take him out flying because
he was a pilot, but he would be the co pilot,
and the pilot was a freaking lieutenant. Okay, And if

(45:41):
you understand you know the you know the you know,
the difference between a general and a lieutenant. A lieutenant,
you know, has virtually no power outside that helicopter regarding
a general, but that general knows the hack, who happens
to be a lieutenant, is in charge. So what happens

(46:02):
is that hack is responsible for everything. The lady that's
the co pilot, notwithstanding anything that you've said, has no
decisive input. She follows directions, especially if she was on
a certification or a training hop. So that pilot, that

(46:27):
hack is responsible. And if she locked up, he has
the controls right in front of him. So that didn't happen, Jeff,
He had the controls. She was not in charge of
that helicopter at any time she might have been flying it.
But if the ground support said, air traffic controllers said,

(46:51):
hey listen, fear left. You know, here's your victor. He's
barren left. It's his job. She's not qualified to make
that decision. He is because he's the helicopter aircraft commander. Now,
what I have wanted to fly with someone with only
four hundred and fifty hours of flight time, probably not.

(47:15):
I would much prefer someone with a thousand, two thousand,
three thousand hours, you know, stick to what we call
stick time. But you know, you play the cards that
you a dolt, and you know, I don't know the backstory,
but I can guarantee you she's not the one that
was respectable.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
I'm just curious. So what do you think happened? If
it wasn't her, what do you think happened?

Speaker 4 (47:44):
You know, I'm gonna be honest with you. I think
that the warrant officer, and it's kind of aligned with
what you're thinking. I think he deferred to her because
she was a captain and maybe a connected captain that
so he gave her. He's made the mistake of giving

(48:05):
her too much credit to make a decision that was his.
He should have if she did freeze up, guess what
your shoulder to shoulder and that helicopter, you know, one
smack and that person's off those that cyclics they call
it a cyclic stick, and he's back in control. If

(48:26):
someone grows up, I've had people's shot, I've had a
pilot shot and fall forward on the cyclic stick and
the co pilot reach over push him back so that
he could keep flying the aircraft. That's how close you
are in the helicopter. The ultimate mistake, and anyone, any
pilot out there, he's not in his head right now?

(48:48):
Is the hat the helicopter aircraft commander is in charge?
Did he defer to her? Maybe, but that was a mistake. Obviously,
they fought sixty seven people of their lives.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Interesting. Interesting, Victor, h wow, Victor, thank you very much
for that call. So yeah, so maybe it's the coal
pilot And how much pressure was he under to defer
to Rebecca Lobatch. I mean, again, an honest media, these

(49:21):
questions would have been asked months ago. Now they just
want to sweep this story under the rug because it
doesn't suit their narrative.