The Epstein File Conundrum

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, my friends, So just very very quickly, you now
have a bill that's making its way through Congress. It
is co sponsored by Thomas Massey, sort of a libertarian,
very much a libertarian constitutionalist, and Roe Kanna, a left
wing progressive from California, and they're co sponsoring a bill

(00:22):
that would force Pambondi and the DOJ to release all
of the Epstein files, all of it. It has majority
support there. There's enough Republicans and enough Democrats that will
give them a majority to force the DOJ. So it's

(00:45):
obvious now that eventually the Epstein files, all of them
are going to be released. And the what I was
trying to get at is once Congress gets involved, then
the Department of Justice can turn around and say, hey,
if someone's name has now been defamed because of this.

(01:06):
You know, I mentioned you made a phone call, you
were on a flight with Epstein, but you did never
did anything. You never you know, molested a child or
participate in one of these crazy parties, or you never
did anything illegal at all. Then if there's a lawsuit,
if someone's professional reputation has been now destroyed or ruined,

(01:29):
it don't come to us. In other words, don't sue
the DOJ, don't sue the federal government, that was Congress,
and that will then wash their hands of the whole thing.
So many are suggesting, suggesting or implying that Trump now

(01:52):
has sucked the Democrats into a trap because now he's
got the entire media, i mean, practically begging for all
the files to be released, the entire Democratic Party, who
are now trying to cover up the Epstein files. But

(02:12):
now they think they're gonna nail Trump. So now they're saying, no,
the hell with it, release all the files. And now
he's going to get Congress to jump in as well.
And once they release the Epstein files, and Trump is
already now telegraphing this a little bit. He says, you're

(02:33):
gonna find out. It's gonna be Bill Clinton, it's gonna
be Larry Summers, it's going to be some of the
biggest Democrat donors on the planet, the billionaire hedge fund guys.
This is going to burn the Democratic Party to the ground. Like, okay,
you know, as I said, be careful what you wish for.
You just may get it. So anyway, we'll see what happens.

(02:59):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight,
As one Texter put it, Jeff, if Trump had anything
to do with Epstein in terms of molesting or raping,
or abusing or trafficking children, if he was in any
way on that infamous list, the Democrats would have released

(03:22):
it a long time ago. Remember the Biden doj and
Merrick Garland went through that client list with a fine
tooth comb. This has now come out. So they looked
at that list over and over and over six ways

(03:43):
to Sunday. They wanted to nail Trump on Epstein, and
they found nothing, absolutely nothing. That's why I've been saying
for a long time Biden and Garland were covering this
up because they saw big Democrats name after big Democrat
name after big Democrat name. They didn't find Trump. He's

(04:07):
not on the list. If he was, the Democrats would
have released it a long time ago. Very quickly. I
want to read this text. It's a very very good one.
You can text the cooner man seven zero four seven
zero seven zero four seven zero, Jeff. How convenient now

(04:29):
that Jelaine Maxwell is coming forward When Virginia Geoffrey and
Epstein or gioff frowever you pronounce her last name and
Epstein are not able to refute anything. Maxwell can now
say anything she wants. How can she be trusted? Granting

(04:52):
her immunity would enable her to wield enormous power. She
should get nothing but a read deduction in her sentence
in exchange four. And this is all in caps, provable evidence.
That's where I think they're going right now with Julaane Maxwell.

(05:14):
And this is very typical in prosecutions or investigations. Can
you give me the really big fish. You give me
the really big fish and provable, show me some hardcore evidence,
and then maybe we can knock off a few years
from your sentence. And by the way, they've now got

(05:37):
her scheduled to testify in front of Congress under oath,
so eventually the truth is going to come out. Six one,
seven two, six six sixty eight, sixty eight agree, disagree.
Ross in Boston, thanks for holding Ross and welcome.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
George W.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Bush set the stage to screw.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
The American worker in they sellout to communist China to
make the swamp rich. Let's face it, Ros Parole and
Donald Trump did their best to expose the sucking sound
of American jobs going to China. President Trump has always
respected the American worker. He puts the American worker first
over the swamp. He has exposed the masses of greed,

(06:25):
and that's why they hate him. President Trump is delivering
us for me.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Russ, Can you please hang on? I love where you're
going with this. Six one seven two six, six sixty
eight sixty eight is the number, Tim in and over.
Thanks for holding Tim And oh I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
I forgot you. Uh Russ, Sorry I Russ? Are you there?

(06:51):
Did we lose you?

Speaker 2 (06:53):
No?

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Jeff On maya listen, Oh great, look at you all right, Russ.
Just to set it up because people me are a
lot of people are just tuning in now. So you're
talking about that incredible deal that Trump just finished with
the European Union. It is the biggest trade deal in history.
Even the Europeans are admitting they were taken to the cleaners.

(07:14):
Trump beat them and beat them good. We're going to
have a baseline fifteen percent tariff on all European imports
coming into the United States, including their cars and German cars,
Italian cars, French cars, and that their market now is
going to be wide open to American goods and products.
It is a clear victory, no question. And Russ, you

(07:37):
made a brilliant point, going all the way back to
Bush forty one, who sold out the American worker, and
Ross Preau warned us with that giant sucking sound. You said,
no one outside of Ross Perou and Trump has championed
the American worker and American industry and American jobs. Like
Parrot and Trump, please pick up where you left off, Russ.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Okay, First of all, President Trump has delivered us from
evil and bondage. Let us not forget that, President Trump.
It's either President Trump or communism. Let us not forget
what the government did to us during COVID. During the
COVID pandemic, freedom of trace went out the window. Now,
Jeff is part of the Epstein files are concerned. What

(08:26):
I believe, Okay, I don't know. This is the fact
that I believe there are too many world leaders on
that list into him. The American workers first to make
these trade deals come first. And part of the great
thing about this, Okay, Trump will be seeing as those
leaders that he did not try to expose them. Okay,

(08:47):
it really puts him in a great bargaining position. Now,
if the Congress forces they hand, it's the Congress's fault
and not President Trump. That's what I feel.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Well, Russ, Look, I have to say, just to piggyback
off of what you're saying, there's no question now that
something has changed in his second term. I'm not saying
there isn't a ton of resistance. There is, but within
the swamp itself, they're starting to melt away. He's get

(09:21):
for example, the big beautiful Bill. A lot of people
I thought would never vote for it ended up voting
for it. Strange, this massive trade deal, the way the
Europeans were yacking and talking and stomping and threatening, and
they folded like a you know, like a cheap suit.
So what I'm saying is Trump is racking up victory

(09:45):
after victory after victory, and all of this began to
really take off after the whole Epstein's story blew wide open.
And who blew it wide open? Remember it was him?
You know he could have just rush just if you're
going to play it tactically. All they had to say was, well,

(10:05):
we're still investigating, that's all. We're just gonna know, it's
an open investigation, and when we find something, when we
might reach our conclusions, well, uh, you know, we'll let
you know. But instead they came out and said, no,
we're the cases closed. If you're a member, case closed.
There was no you know, he committed suicide, there was

(10:26):
no client list, he never blockmailed anybody, and we're not
going to press any charges. And that's what unleashed a firestorm.
A firestorm, and that's why that story has never gone
away since then. But Trump was the one who drove it.
And now I'm starting to think, boy, it's almost like,

(10:49):
you know, he's put all of his opponents in a room.
They're all released a list, release the files, release the files,
release the files, and now he's going to have Congress
come in and basically detonate it. And then he can
say I'm not responsible and just get out of the way,

(11:10):
get out of the way as that grenade gets detonated.
And then Trump can turn around and say, hey, don't
blame me. I was the one I said let's not
do this, and boom, everybody gets blown up. Russ. Do
you think that's his ultimate strategy?

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Jeff absolutely, Okay, And I want to add this, Jeff,
these are glorious days for me. I've been waiting for
over fifty years for the swamp to get what it deserves,
the media to get what it deserved. And I can
tell you I hated them from the false reporting coming
out of Vietnam, Jeff, And I'll just give you one example,

(11:50):
teed Defense of sixty eight. Okay, it was an intelligence blender,
there's no question about that. Okay, But that scumbag, Walter Cronkite,
trusted men in America, what a bunch of bs. Okay,
he gets on the tourment, says we can't win the war.
Then the next thing, you know, Lyndon Johnson, the coward
that he was, Jaron Jone says, I'm going to concentrate

(12:11):
on ending the war and I'm not going to spend
another day to get re elected or anything else, which
is all a bunch of crap oler okay, without question, okay.
But the truth is this, everything the Communists had taken
over only lasted for a short period of time. We
won that for sure, okay, but that's not what's the

(12:33):
report in the media. And there's no question today, okay.
If you look back at that history, the media created
that as the turning point in the Vietnam War, which
was nothing but a big giant lie. Okay, and I've
hated them all since then, Jeff. And again, these are
glorious days for me. They're finally getting that come up

(12:54):
in all these sobs every day in.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
One of them.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Well, Russ again, just to reinforce what you're saying, the
Tet offensive, You're right, it was a giant lie that cronkite, CBS,
the entire media pushed, you know, the big three networks
at the time, The New York Times, the New York Post, sorry,
the Washington Post, the New York Times. They lied, we

(13:17):
now know in retrospect, and the Communists themselves admitted the
Tet offensive was a disaster for them. It was a
huge defeat. In fact, it was such a huge defeat
RUSS they said they weren't able to mount a proper
offensive again for years after Tet. They only took over

(13:37):
buildings for like six to eight hours, and then the
Americans came in and then just routed them, I mean,
just destroyed them. But the media made it seem, oh,
look what the Viet Cong just did. Oh they took
us by surprise. Oh our guys were caught flat footed.
Oh no, this war can't be won. This is a

(13:57):
turning point. The Communists are gonna It's not a question
of if, it's a question of when. And of course,
Cronkite famously went on TV and you know, our troops
have fought nobly and bought bravely and courageously, but this
war cannot be won. And he like declared it like
he was some kind of a prophet. And they lied,

(14:20):
and they knowingly lied, and they sabotaged, they stabbed our
troops in the back. And you're right, tat was a
big American military victory. And by the time the media
was done, they made it seem like it was one
of the greatest, if not the greatest defeat in American history.
And you know, russ I used to always say this

(14:42):
when I taught history at McGill, and it would drive
the students crazy. But I'm like, look, you may not
like it, but it's a fact. Name me one battle
in the entire Vietnam War that the Americans lost. I'll
go just one, not two, not three, not four, Just
name me one battle. The America never lost a single

(15:06):
battle in that entire war. So how did we lose
the war? Our politicians lost the war? Our corrupt media
lost the war. We gave up Vietnam. We never lost Vietnam.
And I've got to ask you this for us because
you spent two tours in Vietnam, so you know what

(15:28):
you're talking about when you look at what a bunch
of liars. You know how mendacious the media was? Then?
Has it gotten worse over the decades or has it
basically been the same. We're just more aware of it.
In other words, was the media? I know they lied,

(15:51):
but was it still a little better they tried to
be a little fairer or really? Were they always this
bad for the last fifty years? We just now have
opened our eyes finally.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Okay, who put his life on the line, his riches
and everything else, just like those assigned the Declaration of Independence,
he has put himself out there and they've tried to
destroy him and everything else. He's the one that has
exposed the truth. And you don't know how grateful I

(16:26):
am to President Trump. Okay, And I'll tell you right now.
I usually avoid people to start talking bad about Trump, Okay,
but I'm not going to do it anymore. I'm not
going to stand by him at any stupid ignorant fool
tried to disparage Donald Trump for what he's done. You
know something, if we had an honest media, he'd have
an eighty percent approval rating right now. But because we

(16:48):
have a dishonest media made of a bunch of self servings, comeback.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah, I know, I mean, he's over fifty percent. But
you're right, if we had an honest media in this country,
he'd be the most popular president we ever had. Six
seven two, six sixty eight. Sixty eight is the number.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
You know.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Sandy just made a really good point to me off air.
She said, you know, Jeff, you're right. We didn't lose
a single battle in the entire war in Vietnam. I
mean the Revolutionary War that was something different. Our war
for independence, we lost quite a few battles against the British,
but in the end we persevered after seven years. But
the Vietnam War, we never lost a single battle, she says.

(17:30):
But look at the images, especially the last one when
we evacuated Saigon, the capital of South Vietnam. That helicopter
and people desperately trying off the rooftop of the American embassy,
and these poor desperate Vietnamese who knew they were going

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to get butchered, slaughtered by the Communists, desperately trying to
hang on or jump onto the helicopter while one more
helicopter is just literally thrown into the sea, just literally
falls into the ocean. I mean that that image and
the way the withdrawal was handled was an absolute debacle.

(18:16):
I mean it was a debacle of the highest order,
because we were leaving with our tail between our legs.
So the way we left and the images that were there,
it made it look like we were defeated, but we
were never defeated. We surrendered, but we were never defeated

(18:37):
six one seven two six six sixty eight, sixty eight, or,
if you want to be more accurate, Vietnam, soeuth. Vietnam
was abandoned, and it was abandoned primarily by the Democrats
because that's what they Watergate. They used Watergate to chop
down Nixon. And once they chopped down Nixon, then the

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anti war left that dominated the party, the anti American left,
now had their chance to inflict the first defeat on
America in our history. And that's what they wanted. They
wanted us to lose that war. And people never talk
about what happened afterwards. There was a holocaust in Southeast Asia.

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No one ever talks about the South Vietnamese, how many
of them were slaughtered, put into gulags, millions of them
on these life rafts and desperately fleeing going to places
like Australia and other countries, the boat people as they
were called, or what happened later in Cambodia or in Laos.

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I mean it was a tragedy of the highest proportion
that when America lost, communism won, and the people there
pay the ultimate price. Six one seven, But I digress
six one seven two six, six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number Tim in and over. Thanks for holding Tim,

(20:16):
and welcome.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
Hi, good morning, Jeff, and I couldn't agree, couldn't agree more,
and just want to say once again, God bless our veterans. Anyway,
you know, to kind of pivot back to Maxwell, I
think you have to cut a deal with her, as
sickening as it is.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
And the reason I say this and.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
Again provable evidence only, is that if you think about
some of the powerful names on the other end of
the table, with some of the best lawyers that money
can buy, if you don't have her, You're going to
have a bunch of fifteen year old girls who are
now in their thirties who are going to be you know,
some of them, you know, may not have the resources

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to fight a Laurence Summers or to fight a Bill Gates.
But if you take that girl, if you add in
some evidence from Gwanne Maxwell, who let's face it, she
was there, you know at this it becomes a lot
more credible, and I think a lot more people would

(21:21):
either think about cutting deals or possibly providing information on
other things. I mean, if you get Laurence Summers in
a room and if you've got them dead to Sunday,
he might start talking about the global banking network. He
might talk about all the corruption happening at the World
Health Organization that we're funded. This may be a case
about Epstein, but it truly may be a launching point

(21:44):
where we can find out a lot of information because
it's the same dirty people, the same corrupt people who
are involved in all of it. So I hate to
think of cutting.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Maxwell a deal.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
I wouldn't commuter sentence, but like you said, maybe reduce it.
I think you have to.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
I agree. I mean, I think the key phrase here, Tim,
is provable evidence. Right, You don't just want to take
her word for it and say take her word for
it and say, you know, well, she's going to provide
testimony or something. No, I don't think her word is good.
She's been caught lying in the past many times, and
she's been convicted of some of the most monstrous, unspeakable

(22:25):
crimes imaginable. So she's going to have to give the receipts. So,
whether it's the client list of infamous black book that
she had, whether it's tapes, whether it's video, it's got
to be something that is very damning. And if she
has it, then I think you got to make a deal.

(22:46):
I think there's no question. And look, Tim, just to
further what you're saying, Look, I think it's obvious Trump
is being lobbied very heavily by foreign governments around the world.
Just take the government of Great Britain. You think they
want the truth about Prince Andrew to come out. This
will destroy the royal family. Now we look at it

(23:10):
as Republicans, you know, small our Republicans, well, you know,
we don't care about their royal family. We kick them out.
Two hundred and fifty years ago. But in Great Britain,
the Royal family is everything. I don't care if you're
you know, the Conservatives or the Labor Party, you don't
want to see the Royal family burn to the ground.
If Prince Andrew was diddling underage girls, and I'm telling

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you he was diddling underage girls, and I think it
had something to do with Virginia Geoffrey being killed. This
is a woman that says two weeks before she dies,
I'm not suicidal. If anyone tells you I am, they're lying,
and then mysteriously dies quote unquote a suicide, I don't
think so. And he was one of that was one

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of the girls Prince Andrew was involved in. So the
British government is telling Trump please don't release the files. Man.
We're not just talking about Prince Andrew. This is going
to affect the monarchy, the stability of Great Britain itself,
the royal family, which goes back what a thousand years
in Great Britain, Please don't release it. Edhod Barack, former

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Prime Minister of Israel, was involved in, you know, almost
a peace deal with the Palestinians. Apparently he's on the
list at least that's what the media in Israel is claiming.
You've got bb NET and yahu A others saying, look, man,
this is going to open up a hornet's nest here
in Israel. Barack not just is he who'd Barock going

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to be in big trouble, but political people around him
are going to be in big trouble. So what I'm
saying is, you've got government after government after government telling
Trump please just hey, keep those names buried. You don't
know the headaches this is going to give us. It's
going to lead to political ski handle, political fallout. Governments

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can fall, the monarchies could fall, countries could fall. Please
just let sleeping dogs lie. So he's under tremendous pressure
not to release the files. But if Jelaine Maxwell has
the goods, think about Bill Clinton. Just Bill Clinton. Leave

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aside Bill Gates, Larry Summers, everything you said is truped him.
But just think about Bill Clinton. Imagine now finally the
truth comes out. Remember he raped Wanita Broderick, He raped her.
He raped Kathleen Willie allegedly in the White House while

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he was president. He raped her. He pinned her up
against the wall. According to her and she gave very
detailed account of what happened, and he raped her. Now,
this man has been a serial sexual predator his entire
career before he became president, while he became president, after

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he was president, and we Conservatives warned about it, we
impeached him over it, and the media covered up for him.
The Democrats defended him. He's a hero in their party.
To this day, Bill Clinton goes down. Not only are

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we vindicated, it is a massive blow, a massive blow,
a terrible blow to the entire Democratic establishment, to the
entire fake news media. The Democrats may never recover. And
then it's going to go to Hillary. What did she
know and when did she know it? And I'm telling

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you Jelaine Maxwell has the goods on her as well,
because you know who set up a lot of his
appointments and it's flights. It was Hillary. And then the
question is, so you knew kids were being diddled, you
knew that kids were being raped and molested and trafficked,

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and you this supposed feminist missus women's rights. Remember it's
the Democrats. It's all about the childerin you let it happen.
She's going down, And that's why I'm looking at this
and I'm like, if this is Trump's strategy, don't release,

(27:39):
why don't release? Hold your fire, you know, like in
a battle, hold it. You know the enemy's coming, and
you're like, oh my god, they're gonna get hold it,
hold it, hold it, hold your fire right till the
possible end. And then you got as many of them
exposed as possible, and then go fire bank bank, bank, bank, bank, bank,
and you and you just take them all down. He's

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now got Remember the same media that was saying BS
conspiracy theory. Oh, these right wing kooks, ah, people like Kooner,
they're crazy. What what client list? What Epstein? Because Epstein
was a big Democrat and they know that, and the

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media hobnobbed with him, and the elite of the elites
of the Democratic Party partied with him. So they had
to disown him and pretend none of this happened. Now
they're foaming at the mouth, they're salivating, release the files,
Release the files. So the Democrats are now all in.

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The entire media is all in, the Rhinos, the Republican establishment,
they're all in. Everybody now's in. Release the files, and
Trump very soon is gonna say okay. In other words,
it's fire, hold your fire, hold your fire, okay, fire.

(29:06):
And I'm telling you Bubba's not going to recover, and
I don't even think Hillary's going to recover. Even if
they don't get prosecuted, their reputations will be in patters,
in patters. I go back to the OJ analogy, Tim.
He yes, he got away with it. He didn't go

(29:29):
to prison for the murder of Nicole, but he was
never the same again. He was a pariah. And that's
what's going to happen to so many of these Democrats.
Even if they don't go to jail, their reputation is finished.
Final word to you, Tim.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
If I agree, and OJ is a perfect analogy. This
to me all boils down to is there one tier
of justice or two tier? If the if the list
isn't exposed, if they're not exposed, then there's two tiers.
There isn't anything anyone's going to say about Bill Clinton.
It's going to shock us, right, we already know that.
I'm through the years, I've seen x X. You know,

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prime ministers of Italy go to jail and France and
other places. And if this unleashes a lot of chaos
around the world in different governments. Who cares the world tomorrow,
wake up, have their coffee and move on. No one
will care for What they'll care about is is there
one set of justice or is there too? And that's
what will be the big difference in whether or not

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this list comes out. And I just pray to God
it comes out and we find out there's one.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
System of justice.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Brilliant. I couldn't have said it better myself, brilliant Tim.
Thank you very much for that call. Six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Let me just
add very quickly one other thing, and he's right. Everything
Tim said is right. But if you look at you know, look,
Israeli prime ministers have gone to jail, uh French, you

(31:00):
know what is it? The Sarkozzi? You know, I went
to jail. Italian prime ministers have gone to jail. But
you know, whether it's Israel, France, Italy. I'm just giving
a couple of these as examples. They went to jail
over money. It's you know, it's always the same graft.
You know, they steal, they embezzle, they you know, they

(31:23):
they they they take money, they they they loot even
in Eastern Europe. Many of them go to jail. But
it's always over money. They steal and you know, take,
but not so much. You just get too freaking greedy
and they nail you. Okay, but it's not And sex
scandals have brought down governments, you know that. It used to.

(31:45):
Now nobody cares. But in the old days, a sex
scandal would bring down a government, you know, a minister,
even a prime minister, even a hey, look that's the
Irish Charles Parnell. He was the big, the big nationalist
politician in nineteen entry who pushed for a home rule
for Ireland, a brilliant man, and he was laid low
by a sex scandal. It was honestly very sad. But

(32:10):
my point is a sex scandal has brought down powerful people,
powerful governments, powerful ministers. But it's usually either a mistress
again they're adults, or it's you know, at the time
when homosexuality was frowned upon, it's with a man, but
not kids. This is a new frontier, not kids. Not

(32:38):
molesting kids. So that foreign leaders were involved in trafficking, molesting,
and abusing underage girls and boys, Holy mackerel, Holy mackerel.
That is going to be a new line that's been crossed,

(33:04):
and I think it's going to tear societies to their
very shake societies to their very foundation. So anyway, we'll
see six one seven two six six, sixty eight, sixty eight.
And I think that's why everyone is on pins and needles,
because you know, there's some things you don't do, and

(33:25):
I'm telling you diddling kids is one of them. Richard
in New Hampshire. Thanks for holding Richard.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
And welcome, Hi, Jeff, thanks for taking my call, my pleasure.
I think, you know, there's so many complications and potentials
with the with the Epstein files, and I don't think,
I don't think that Trump is involved in any way,
shape or form. He's too casual about it, he's too
sure of himself. And and I think the Democrats are are,

(33:57):
you know, like looking through it, rifling through it. They're
looking for something and they can't find it. And this
is just the deflection, in my opinion, from what is
the bigger news, which is Tulsy Gabbard's evidence that she
has pertaining to the twenty sixteen election. And I would

(34:20):
just like to point out one thing that that evidence
that was shown as now being shown to be truthful
and accurate, and the media is up to their eyeballs
in it. It didn't just affect it and destroy a
two thousand presidency, his first presidency, his first term in office.

(34:42):
It effectively destroyed any even if there was fraud in
twenty twenty, it really destroyed any impetus he had to
win the election in twenty twenty. There were too many
people in this country who were or convinced that something

(35:02):
had happened, that he had done something wrong. You can't
have a you can't paint him for two or three
years without having some of that paint still on him.
In twenty twenty, they effectively destroyed two presidential terms. What
a disgrace. This is the bigger news in my opinion, I.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Think you're right. I think this is. Look, the Epstein
thing is a big scandal because it involves a very
powerful global pedophile sex trafficking network that implicates the most
powerful political leaders, business leaders, and Hollywood Hollywood actors and directors.

(35:48):
So this is a who's who of the political, corporate,
cultural elite. So I think there's no question it's a
massive scandal. The Russiagate scandal is it's called I think
is the biggest scandal in the last hundred years because
it ties in the stolen election of twenty twenty. That's
why they stole it, because they couldn't let them continue

(36:11):
in power. I think it explains the Hunter Biden laptop scandal.
I mean everything falls into place from that seminal Central Sin,
that first seminal scandal. And I think Richard, it didn't
just you're right. It polarized the country. It inflamed the
country so much because people were convinced that Trump was

(36:35):
a traitor and that Trump colluded with Putin. Why because
the media told them so, and because the intelligence community
told them so. So they go, well, you have to
believe our own CIA. You know, according to them, you're
not going to believe our own CIA. Who the hell
are you gonna believe? You're not gonna believe CNN? Who
the hell are you gonna believe? And it turned out

(36:56):
to be a massive lie. But I would even add
one more thing, Richard, And I'm going to just read
a text and I want to let me know if
you agree with it. This is from seven oh three. Again.
You can text us seven zero four seven zero seven
zero four seven zero because it's true. It actually impacted us,
even in a more profound way. Jeff, I am still

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amazed at how much Obama and company divided this country,
right down to family members not speaking. The lies cost
more than the money for all these investigations into the
fake Russia collusion. It really cost us our country's unity.

(37:44):
And Jeff, look at how divided we are to this day.
No longer is this the United States of America. It
is the divided States of America, and it is perhaps
with the dear leader Barack Obama wanted all along to
fundamentally transform America by disuniting us. This must not be

(38:10):
allowed to be swept under the rug. Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton,
James call me, Brennan Clapper, all of them must be
held accountable. Oh Richard, what say you? It split our
country in half, and in many ways it divided families,

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It divided friends, and in a way we've never recovered. Agreed, disagree,
really agree.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
And if you've watched the talk shows yesterday, very little
if anything said about.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Mike. You couldn't Mike, you couldn't let him finish