The FSU Shooter Lockdown

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Cooner Country. Okay, my friends, a lot to
talk about today. When I say jam packed show, I'm
not kidding jam packed show today. Yesterday was another harrowing day,
another school shooting, this time in at Florida State University

(00:23):
in Tallahassee, where a twenty year old young man, Phoenix Ickner,
rampaged on campus. Clearly a disturbed young man. He, according
now to what law enforcement and media sources are now revealing,

(00:45):
stole his mother's gun or gunza. His mother, if you
can believe it, is a sheriff's deputy for Leon County.
And so somehow, and this has got to be investigated,
got his hands on her guns. So the mother is

(01:06):
a police officer, He gets his hands on her guns
and then deliberately targeted Florida State where he's also a student. Now,
first question, okay, before we even get into the actual
meat and bones of the story, why would you want

(01:26):
to target your own fellow students? Like, what kind of
a sicko are you that you just want you want
to go to cap It was random. Apparently he just
you know, shot dead the first person that he saw.
So it's not even like he was going after someone
who I don't know, not that you excuse this. I'm
just explaining motives that you know, someone that's bullying him

(01:48):
or had you know, harassed him or mistreated him or no.
He just showed up on campus and said, I'm going
to kill and shoot at the first people I meet.
What kind of a sickoh are you like? Seriously? What
is wrong with you? So armed he showed up on campus.

(02:11):
The moment he showed up on campus, I'm going again now.
By what the police and witnesses have described, he saw
a female student shot her point blank range. The first
student shaw he saw, he opened his window of the
car and boom, and that's when he started to unleash

(02:32):
his rampage. Over twenty shots were fired. Students were panicking.
There was absolute bedlam on Florida State University campus. Students
were in fear. Many of them began to run. Some
were literally trampled as people were running in utter panic

(02:54):
and Phoenix Ickner cool, calm, collected, apparently no emotion whatsoever,
and he just continued to shoot and shoot and shoot. Boom, boom,
boom boom. In the end, two students are now dead,

(03:17):
six are injured, several of them in very critical condition.
In fact, I'm telling you, the blood bath would have
been even worse. This would have been ten, fifteen, twenty
dead if it wasn't for the aggressive, proacting, proactive policing

(03:40):
by the campus police. Unlike at Uvaldi, Unlike Parkland, where
police officers stood by and did nothing and waited for backup,
which let the body count just pile up. The Florida
State University campus police and most police now now are trained,

(04:01):
you don't wait, you go in, You go in and
you try to take out the shooter. And that's exactly
what they did. Within a several minutes, the police arrived,
they located the Phoenix Ickner, the perpetrator, and they went
after him and they managed to arrest and apprehend him.

(04:23):
He is now in custody. And if it wasn't for
the heroic actions and the aggressive, proactive actions of the police,
my god, it would have been what five dead, eight dead,
ten dead, a dozen dead. And so to me, the

(04:43):
police here are clearly the heroes. But the question now
is this everybody is going on in the media as
always always it's always the same reaction, the guns, the guns,
the guns. Well, in this case, you can't really argue
for gun control. Can you because he didn't buy a gun,

(05:07):
he didn't buy it off the street. There's no gun
control law that would have prevented this. It's so obvious
he got the guns, or more accurately, stole the guns
from his mom, who is a police officer. So the
question she asked to answer is how did he get
a hold of your guns? Aren't you supposed to secure

(05:29):
your guns? Like what you just leave them lying around
in the house? Or what in a holster? Off a chair?

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Like?

Speaker 1 (05:37):
How did he get a hold of the guns? So
there's gonna be serious questions there. But let me tell
you what is to me. There are two things now
that strike me immediately. Number one, how do you raise someone?
How do you have a child who's now an adult?

(06:00):
Think that human life is so worthless that what this
is a video game? That whatever is wrong with you,
it justifies or it rationalizes you going to a campus
and kill, shoot and kill your fellow students. We have

(06:25):
there is something seriously wrong with our culture, very wrong.
And it's not just in America, it's throughout the Western world.
There is a decadence, There is almost a desensitizing to
the value of human life that I think is a cancer,

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and it's not an issue of guns. They whether it's knives,
whether it's bombs, whether it's you name it, whether it's drugs,
whether it's fentanyl, whether it's pills, whether it's there's something
going on where killing people is becoming much easier, and
people are doing it almost without batting an eye. The

(07:06):
human life is becoming cheap, worthless. Now the second one,
and I'm sure many of you have either seen the
video or heard about the video, and I don't know
what's more chilling, honestly, this sicko phoenix sickner gunning down

(07:27):
his fellow students in cold blood for no reason, no
rational reason, or the reaction of some of the students,
and in particular now they've taken down the video and
so it's hard to see it now, but this is
what it was there up on social media for maybe

(07:49):
a couple of hours. We could have gotten the cut.
Sandy and I talked about it before the show. Honestly,
it's just someone sipping. That's all you here is someone
sipping and barely that so it's for radio. It just
it doesn't do much. It's not really that effective. It
doesn't you know. It's just like what, it's just like nothing,

(08:12):
almost hearing nothing, with someone faintly sipping on a cup
of coffee. The actual video itself, when you see it,
is really harrowing. It is a student at FSU who
is lying on the ground. It is a girl, a
white girl, who is lying on the ground shot. She's bleeding.

(08:40):
She's in utter agony, utter agony. And there's another student
who is again cool, calm, no emotion whatsoever, filming this
girl bleeding from a gunshot on the ground in agony.

(09:05):
But she's got a cup of coffee in her hand
and I whatever on ice latte, and she's slowly sipping
her coffee and you can hear it as she's filming
this girl, this poor victim, lying on the ground, bleeding, bleeding.

(09:31):
She doesn't go over to comfort her. She doesn't go
over to say do you need help, She doesn't go
over to I don't know, pray with her. She's not
on the phone. I know there were police everywhere at
this point, but she's not on the phone nine to
one one. Hey, I mean, you know hallway X right beside,
you know door x Y whatever. I got someone down

(09:54):
bleeding shot. Get help, for God's sake, get help. She's
not as Mike and I I talked about. Mike said,
you know, Jeff, I know that area. My brother used
to go to FSU. I know exactly that part of
the campus he goes. Jeff, she didn't even run out,
just run and say, hey, look, my god, there's someone

(10:16):
down on the ground, bleeding, shaw dying. Please help, help now, help.
No walking, slow filming, no emotion like ice water in
her veins. Fascinated. Fascinated at the sight of a girl slully,

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bleeding out to death and just sipping the coffee. This
woman has no conscience. Okay, uh coooner country. Huge announcement
at seven o'clock. Trust me, you do not want to

(11:01):
miss it. I've got a very important announcement, So tune in.
You're gonna want to hear it. Trust me when I
tell you this. Okay, A couple lines are open. Six
one seven two six, six, sixty eight sixty eight is
the number. There was absolute shock really across social media.

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Many conservatives, my among them, were absolutely outraged by this
viral video from that scene of that mass shooting Florida
State University yesterday, where a woman she was filming herself
and filming a just casually filming really a victim blood everywhere,

(11:45):
who had just been shot, lying on the ground, while
casually nonchalantly sipping a Starbucks coffee and jey, you know again,
just slowly just sipping it, almost like this is a
form of entertainment, and just just walking right by. As

(12:09):
I said to Mike before we went on the air,
the only thing that woman didn't do was just walk
over the body. That's the only thing she didn't do.
And just walking by, filming this poor person on the ground,
this poor female victim on the ground, and you know
that's a fellow student and just sipping her coffee, looking

(12:34):
observing and just sipping, just sipping and just casually strolling by.
Didn't check to see, if you know, on the victim,
console the victim, try to help the victim, try to
comfort the victim, rush the police, call nine one one

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anything something No, No, it was like a video game, no,
or like you know, a movie or a television show.
Oh that's interesting. Wow, I just saw. Hey, I'm like
two feet away from a body that's a human being
that's bleeding to death. WHOA, this is really cool. Let
me get this on my phone. WHOA look at this?

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How many likes do you think I'll get? Chilling? I'm
telling you absolutely harrowing. And this is what some conservatives
and some journalists wrote. Okay, this is journalist Brett McDonald
hat tip to the Gateway pundit quote. I don't know

(13:38):
what other than immense racial hatred or general hatred for
your fellow man can leave you walking on by while
sipping coffee as a girl lay lying with a gunshot wound. Okay,
another one who just walks by that casually sipping Starbucks?

(14:04):
Absolute psychopath. You want to talk about societal decay, You
want to talk about what is wrong with our culture?
This that's what I mean about this FSU shooting. Look,
today is good Friday, Okay, it's you know, a very
very important, very sacred day for many Christians. We need

(14:30):
Jesus now more than ever. I mean, like you want
to talk, this is what happens when you destroy morality.
This is what happens when you destroy religion or try
to destroy religion and religious faith. This is what happens.
And this was all predicted many years ago, forty fifty

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sixty years ago. You take God out of the schools.
You take God out of public square, you take God
out of the home, and this is what you get.
There's no conscience. There's no sense of right and wrong.
There's no sense of good and evil. There's no sense

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of any kind of concern for your fellow human beings,
any sense that life is precious and and valuable, that
we're all ultimately children of God and made in His
image and likeness. There's none of that, you know. It's
like I'm telling you, if that was an animal on

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the ground, if that was a dog who had been shot,
or a cat or whatever that I'm that person probably
would have shown more compassion instead nothing, clearly nothing, just lada,
da lad the dah. Look at this. WHOA, someone's dying

(15:56):
from a gunshot wound. WHOA? This is pretty cool there, Okay,
let me just keep walking. Now, there's another potentially volcanic
angle to this story. It hasn't been confirmed yet, I
want to stress to all of you, has not been

(16:17):
confirmed yet. But Laura Lumer, and again, you have to
be careful with Laura Lumer. She's hit and miss. Sometimes
she's right on target, other times she gets it wrong.
So you got to be careful. But she's now citing
multiple students who have described the shooter, Phoenix Ickner A

(16:42):
as a known pro Palestinian, anti Trump activist on campus.
This is what Laura Lumor is now saying, and this
is how many students have described him. Apparently, according to them,
he attended multiple pro Hamas pro Palestinian rallies. He also

(17:03):
attended anti Trump rallies, according to her and some of
these students that she's citing, and they say in fact
that that Phoenix Ickner was saying, well, it's too late.
Now Trump has been elected. The dictatorship is coming, according
to the left, and he says, the only thing that

(17:25):
we can do is quote unquote take action. Six one
seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay,
A couple of lines are open if you want to
jump on. Six one seven two six six sixty eight
sixty eight is the number. You know. I thought Sandy
made a really really strong point to me again in

(17:46):
today's pre show meeting, and she said, look, Jeff, I'll
be really candid with you. I blame the Democrats for
this ultimately in the end, and I'm like, that's interesting,
And she said no, I'll tell you why. You know,
look at the FSU shooting again, the lack of respect

(18:07):
for human life. Now take a look at a Brago Garcia.
What is the message, just to use that as an example,
what is the message that the Democrats are sending. The
Democrats are sending the message that they will go to
El Salvador. And literally, apparently now it's come out, they've

(18:27):
released the photos. Senator Chris van Holland actually met with
Kilmar Abrago Garcia. He met him, he shook his hand.
You see them eating and drinking together at a table.
So he goes out of his way to meet an

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MS thirteen gangbanger, a human trafficker. And there's, by the way,
more coming out on that front. But let that go
for now. Let it go. A wife beater, a terrorist,
and this is what you value and not the victims

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of MS thirteen, one of the most brutal gangs in
the world. And you've got poor Patty morn, the mother
of Rachel Morin. His constituents. They live in Maryland, and
poor Rachel Morin was murdered and raped by an MS
thirteen psychopath, mother of five kids. But Chris van Holland

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didn't shed a tear for Rachel Morn or her five
children or the grieving mother Patty Morn. Never called once,
never lifted a finger, never even went out and said
find that killer, get that killer justice for Rachel Morn.
He couldn't care less. Yes, So the victims of gangs

(20:05):
and a violent criminal, terrorists, they don't care. Their life
is cheap, their life is worthless. But that of murderers
and rapists, and of criminals and terrorists, they fly on

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our taxpayer dime to El Salvador to literally plead and
beg for their release back home, to bring him back.
By the way, he is home. He's a citizen of
El Salvador, and only a citizen of El Salvador. He's
an illegal alien, so he actually he is where he's
supposed to be. But let all of that go. The

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point being as Sandy rightly said, Jeff, look how little
they respect human life. So no, I'm not surprised she was.
I bet you the person that was, you know, the
woman that was walking by, that poor girl lying on
the ground, or that poor woman lying on the ground. Shot.
It's probably a democrat. Nine. Now this is me, This

(21:10):
is not Sandy, this is me. Well, look what they
do to babies. Look at they do to onborn babies.
So there's no respect for human life none whatsoever. Now,
notice when the shooting first took place yesterday, it was

(21:30):
a huge, huge media frenzy. Oh my, it wasn't just
the you know CNNs and the Fox News and the
MSNBC's Oh no, no no. I was having lunch with
Grace okay at a little local restaurant. I don't want
to say where, because I have a lot of enemies
and you know, they're nuts, so I don't want them
to stake me, you know, stalk me, or you know,

(21:51):
you know, you know, look out from me or whatever.
So I try to keep where I go, what I do,
as you know, as anonymous as possible. So I won't
name the restaurant. But we were there having lunch and
they had a couple of screens up. It was on
the local CBS affiliate WBZ WZ broke in big shooting
at FSU. The other local channels they broke in big

(22:14):
shooting at FFSU, So the local channels got involved. So
when I saw that, I thought this could be a
really high body count. I mean, for them to interrupt
the soaps. That's so, and so I went after lunch,
I checked it. You know, I went back home. I
started check the news, wall to wall coverage, and the

(22:38):
sick media kept asking two questions over and over and
over again. Number one, gun control. How did you get
the gun? How did Phoenix Ickner get the gun?

Speaker 2 (22:51):
So?

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Gun control, gun control, gun control. And number two was
the motivations. They care saying what was his ideology, what
were his motives? Was it political? And in particular was
he a Trump supporter? And they thought, now they had
this that here's he's twenty years old, he's a white male.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Whoa.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
They start salivating, they start foaming at the mouth. We
got him. This has got to be he's a crazy
white supremacist. He's a Trump supporter. We're gonna hang this
around the president and his supporter's next. Well, then it broke.
He got the guns from his mom, who's a sheriff's deputy,

(23:39):
she's a police officer. Oh well, well, there goes the
gun control angle. You can see the air now coming
out of the balloon. And now, as I said, we
don't know the motivations. We don't, But I mentioned Laura
Lumer and what she's the students at least that she's
talking to on campus, and what they're saying about Phoenix

(24:01):
Sickner and his politics, his pro Palestinian, anti Trump politics.
So suddenly, now this may not be a pro Trump shooter.
This could actually be an anti Trump shooter. And like this,
I'm not kidding. Like this, everything went back to the
soap operas. CNN dropped the story, MSNBC dropped the story. Everybody,

(24:27):
the cable news networks, they all draw Suddenly the media
lost all interest in this story. It went from the
hottest story in the country within a couple of hours
to shooting, but shooting, but shooting. I'm sorry what happened
to Tallahassee what happened to Florida State. I mean, it's disgusting,

(24:50):
it's disgusting. So dead bodies are only valuable or only
important if they can serve a political agenda for them. Left,
these people are sick. Now, let me throw one last
log on the fire, I promise, and then I want
to go to the phone lines. This is another story

(25:14):
that the media now again is trying to suppress, but
they can't. This was at a different campus and it
wasn't Florida State University, and thank the Lord, there were
no shootings there. But this is Kent State University in Ohio.
This is the kind of terroristic fervor and I'm choosing

(25:36):
my words carefully, the kind of violence and terrorism and
this assassination culture that is now being fomented by the
left on campuses all across the country. At Kent State University,
there is a photo it like a quote, a piece

(25:57):
of art, that's what they call it, a piece of
art where you see Trump's head on a pike. The
pike is right, you know, right through Trump's head. He's bleeding.
In other words, they you know, they someone has decapitated Trump.
They've cut his head off, grabbed his head and put

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it right through a pike. And so you see his
head on a pike, and right beside it are the words.
We only have to get lucky once. That's it. In
other words, keep trying to kill him. Remember you can
miss a hundred times, but if you get him on

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the one hundred and first try, that's all that matters. Baby.
I want to know now the motives of this shooter
at Florida State University, This Phoenix sickener. The media was
calling for his motivations and his ideology for hours, and
then suddenly they stopped. Suddenly, No, they don't want to

(27:03):
know his motives now, they don't want to know what
drove him to do it. I want to know. I
want to know. I want to know if Laura Lumer
is correct, and if those students who say they knew
him and witnessed what he participated in these campus protests
and what he said to fellow students. I want to

(27:24):
know if this is corroborated and true, because I got
a sneaking suspicion about this, and what he said to
students was we've got to create chaos and we've got
to take action. So in his crazy, disturbed, sick mind,
maybe he thought, hey, I shoot up a campus. Everybody

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starts shooting up campuses, massive chaos. The blowback will hurt
Donald Trump. Marilyn in Norwood, thanks for holding Marylyn, and
as always.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Welcome, Good morning, Jeff, and happy Easter to all in
your audience that are celebrating Easter on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
How well at Easter to you and your whole family
Maryland very much.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
I have a couple of observation or you know, comments,
and one of them is I have noticed, you know,
with more and more advances in automation, that in some
ways it has lent itself to sort of like a
general breakdown in our society in terms of accountability because

(28:38):
more and more, especially people under the age of forty.
It's quite pervasive and I'm sorry to have to stereotype
it this way, but you know, all the computer will
take care of it, like no one now takes responsibility
for anything. That's one thing. And I wonder if some
elements of automation, although it has many advantages, are kind

(29:02):
of changing how people perceive themselves in the world. But
more importantly, I'm not sure. I've never heard of studies
being done on whether these video games that I guess
came out in the seventies and now are really popular,
especially with you know, males more so than females of

(29:26):
all ages. I'm wondering if these video games have desensitized
a segment of our population slowly over time, where violence
because they're used to seeing cartoon characters on a screen basically,
or or some kind of animated because I've never played

(29:50):
any of these games. Animated imagery on a screen. If
people are slowly losing a sense of reverence for human life.
It's just a thought I've been having at Matthew, we'll talk.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah. No, many people have made that point Maryland, many sociologists,
many social critics, many academics, many journalists who are doing
all these sort of studies, psychiatrists, And look, my Ashton
plays video games, loves video games, but you have to
limit them. In other words, the time he doesn't get

(30:27):
more than an hour. Maybe on the weekend we'll get
an hour and a half, but that's it. So okay,
in moderation, it's fine. You know, I know many people
who play video games. They don't turn out to be
serial killers or you know, mass killers. But what I've
also noticed, and we had a friend of the family
who had a son twelve I'm not exaggerating, twelve fourteen

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hours a day, a day, and you can see the
transformation on the child. And this has been going on
for years, and he goes he's completely addicted. There's nothing
I can do, you know, the father is complaining, and
so this kid will play all night, he'll get up

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at noon, doesn't go to work, doesn't want to go
to school, he's gaming all day all night, and there's
a pattern, there's a certain type. They don't shower after
a while. They just their room is they're like a
bunch of slobs. Their room is filthy. They just order
this junk food all the time and they just eat

(31:33):
it because they don't want to get away from the
game console, and they just keep and you can see
they're pale, they don't look healthy, they don't look well,
and they just play this stuff all day, all night,
all day, all night, all day, all night, and you
can tell they they're socially very awkward. They have no

(31:54):
human interaction or connection whatsoever. And you can tell over
time they're almost they're so consumed by the video games
or by constantly being on social media. That's another thing.
It's TikTok and snapshot and whatever Instagram. All day. All
they're doing is watching other people's experiences. They don't deal

(32:18):
with human beings anymore. They're living in a screen, in
front of a screen all day, all night, and you
can tell it really genuinely desensitizes them. They honestly begin
to think they can't distinguish the difference between a video
game and reality. After a while, or that TikTok is reality.

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So if someone gets humiliated on TikTok and they passed,
you know, these videos go viral, how whatever, somebody got
beaten up on TikTok or you know whatever, they pour
water on somebody's head and everybody's laughing at the person
that there's just no regard for other human beings. It's
like it's just it's all one big social media experience

(33:06):
and you're seeing this now more and more and more.
And the other thing, Maryland, that is clear. There was
a huge study. It just came out actually yesterday. Nothing
to do now with violence. But they say that Generation Z,
compared to even millennials, never mind Generation X, never mind
the Baby Boomers will lie at job interviews at a

(33:31):
much much higher level than any other generation. And it's
not just that they lie, it's that they think it's
okay to lie. That there's nothing, there's nothing wrong with lying,
Like you know, it used to be it's bad to lie.
Thou shall not bear false witness. No, what's wrong with lying?
Who cares? No big deal. So they're saying they're noticing

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that things that used to be considered wrong, things you
don't do or if you did do you're ashamed of,
you know, a sin as it used to be called. Now, hey,
you got to get the job. You get the job. Live,
make it up, make stuff up on your resume. May
just make stuff up all the time. So look, I'm

(34:16):
noticing this not to put anybody down, but there are
some younger people that I deal with here at iHeart. Okay,
I don't want to mention their names. You deal with them,
and you can just tell. First of all, they don't
shake your hand. That's gone like the generation's ears. They
don't shake hands. They don't know what it is to

(34:37):
shake a hand. They will. You will meet them in meetings.
They know your name, you know their name. You walk
down the hall, say you're going to the bathroom, restroom,
wherever they see you. They don't say hi to you.
They know you, but they don't say hi to you.
It's weird, like they don't acknowledge your presence. I will

(35:01):
say hi, whatever, I'm gonna make up a name, Hi, Jane,
how are you? And then if you you know, interact
with them, they'll say fine. They never say how are you.
They'll just say fine and nod their head and keep going.
So what I'm saying is and so, And even when
you talk and deal with them, it's it's like, hello,

(35:23):
I'm a person, I'm here. No, they're and they're always
on that phone. You're at meetings, they're on the phone.
They're staring at the phone. That's their thing. You're at
a meeting, and you can tell almost the age thirty
five forty is about the cut off. Anybody above thirty
five forty, they're all looking at each other at a meeting.

(35:43):
Anybody thirty five and younger, they're at the meeting. I
mean they're listening, I guess, but they're all staring at
a phone. And I'm like, we're in a meeting. What
are you staring at the phone for? So you can
see almost the addiction, Like I just I gotta keep looking.
I gotta look at the screen. I gotta look at
the screen. I can't stop looking from the screen. And

(36:07):
it's just you're looking around. You go, this is weird,
Like it's just there's something not right. You can just
sense it. Even it's not right. We're not doing these
people a favor. So look, there's a book out. I
don't want to get to too lost in the weeds
here but there's a book out which I think is
a very five. I haven't read the book. I've just
read reviews of the book. I do plan to read it,

(36:30):
probably in the summer if I have some time. It's
by an author, very respected author, Christine Rosen. She's really
really smart. I read her stuff in other journals. My
point is this, she's now arguing that, really the greatest
revolutionary of the last one hundred plus years, it's not

(36:51):
Vladimir Lenin, it's not Karl Marx, it's not Trotsky, it's
not Hitler, it's not all people that we think, you know,
the great political revolutionaries, and I mean great as in consequential,
not you know, they're evil, but not you know, not
as in positive, but just people you think that really

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revolutionized society. She says, no, it's Steve Jobs. She said,
there's no question. Just said, there's no question that, Lenin, Trotsky,
She runs down all of them, Hitler, Mussolini, whatever, all
the great revolutionaries of you know, the last hundred some

(37:33):
years have nothing on Steve Jobs. Why he invented essentially
the iPhone and he actually said this will revolutionize society
and people were cheering, and she says it has. There's
no getting around it. Nothing has changed people's thinking, their

(37:53):
brain patterns, their life, culture, society, human interaction, technology, how
we get our information, how we interact with people than
that phone. That phone is turning out to be maybe
the most revolutionary device ever in human history. To me,

(38:17):
of the argument is fascinating. To be honest, I'm like,
you know what, there may be something to this, and
I think the dark side because there's many Look, I
have a phone and I love it. Why I go
through my news sites, my newspapers all on that phone.
It's incredible. I've got subscriptions to multiple newspapers and I

(38:37):
read multiple websites. I love it. I mean, I'm just like,
I'm reading and reading and reading and reading and reading,
and I'm able to do it now in a way
that I could never do thirty forty years ago. So
the phone, in many ways, that iPhone is incredible. But
there's a real dark side to it. And that dark side,
I think is spewing out now many of these school shooters,

(39:02):
or that person hey sipping an ice latte Starbucks and
just staring at a person lying on the ground, filming
them as she's sipping, and that person is bleeding out
to death. How you can do that? I want all

(39:24):
of you to just think of this for a second.
There's a human being on the ground, shocked, dying in agony,
and you just stand and watch and film and sip
and then walk on by. That's cold. That's cold. That's
really cold. I mean, that's we're talking a sociopath. And

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I don't think that's I don't think this student that
film that poor person dying on the ground is I
don't think she's somehow an aberration. I think there are
a lot of students like that because of the culture
now that they're reared in Maryland. Thank you very very
much for that call again just my opinion. Thank it

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for what it's worth. Six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay, it's seven
oh two. I said I was going to make the
announcement at seven. I my apologies. I was I was
talking to Maryland, so I got a little carried away there.
But okay, So Kooner Country on Thursday. So that's next Thursday, Thursday,

(40:34):
April twenty fourth, so five six days from today, there
is going to be a major rally at the state
House in front of the Boston Common. It is being
sponsored by American Made Action. Uh there. Some of them
are actually literally flying in from Florida to give speeches.

(40:58):
I will be speaking. I will be the MC of
this rally. This is to free the rivera family. This
is Justine Pelletier two point zero, Izzy and Ruth who
have lost their five children, taken away from them because

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they dared to try, because they dared to defy a
pediatrician who told them they had to vaccinate their nine
month old baby, and they refuse to vaccinate their nine
month old baby. And literally because of their decision to
defy this pediatrician, who then reported them to DCF as

(41:41):
being abusive parents. The baby healthy, well fed, loved, well
cared for, simply because they refused to vaccinate to jab
their nine month old baby. Son now has said they're
not fit parents. They have taken away not just the baby,

(42:05):
but the other four children ten, nine, to five and four.
They have been sitting in prison for months. They have
not seen their children in months at least. The father
hasn't the mother gets an hour a day supervised visits.
They have kidnapped the children of this couple and they

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are threatening to put both of them in prison for
up to five years. This is state sanctioned kidnapping. This
is an assault on parental rights. This is communism, and
it is happening here and across the entire country. And

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I believe this is the case that is going to
spark a political revolt, not just here but across all
of America. It has gotten national attention. Millions of people
now are getting involved. Boston is going to rise Thursday
at noon. I know many of you work. Please, if

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you can during your lunch hour, try to come. Try
to get a half day next week. Most people don't
have school, most kids it's school is off that week.
If you can bring your children, bring your families, We're
going to win this. Every lawyer I've spoken to has
said DCF has no case here whatsoever. We have to

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apply public pressure. If we apply public pressure, we will win.
And I think this is just the beginning. This is
not just about the riveras anymore. This is about a
corrupt power, mad, out of control department of Children and families,

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and really an all powerful state that thinks they own
our children. We are going to break them right here,
right now. And let me just say one last thing,
because I want to go back to our phone lines.
Tomorrow is a very great day here in the greater
Boston area and in America. We will be celebrating the

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two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Battle of Lexington, which,
in many ways, where's the opening shots of the American Revolution.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Boston
is the cradle of American liberty. It is the cradle

(44:47):
of the American Revolution. And in fact, tomorrow is such
a great day that there are rumors, just rumors, that
President Trump himself may show up at the anniversary celebrat
in Lexington. I hope he does. Thursday at high noon

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at the steps of the State House in front of
the Boston Common It is going to be the opening
shots of a second American Revolution. Peaceful, civil but we
are going to reclaim the rights that the left, the
Democrats and progressives have been steadily taking away from us.

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They don't own our children. Parents are responsible for their children.
The government doesn't own our bodies, and they don't own
our kids. And they're going to get that message loud
and clear on Thursday. And so I'm hoping that all

(45:58):
of you can come, bring your children, bring your families,
bring your family members, bring your friends. But Boston, god
Willing will rise, just like we rose two hundred and
fifty years ago, and I believe this will spark a
political rebellion against child protective services and the rampant abuse

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against children and families across the entire country. So again
next Thursday, at noon, April twenty fourth, steps of the
State House. It's going to last about I think the
whole event will be about an hour. Then afterwards that

(46:43):
you can sign up if you want to get involved
or become an activist, or meet people. I'll be shaking hands,
so probably in total about two hours, but the actual
speeches and the rally will be one hour from noon
to one o'clock. I hope to see all of you there.
I'm telling you now, you show up, and we show

(47:05):
up in big numbers. We free Justina Pelletier. We're gonna
free these five children, and we're gonna bring Izzy and
Ruth home, the parents, and they'll be reunited with their five,
their five beautiful children. So if you want to make
a difference, this is our chance to make a difference.

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Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
Dane in South Dakota. Thanks for holding Dane, and welcome, Jeff.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
I would love to be with you on this one
like I came last time from South Dakota. But uh,
I'm not gonna make this one, but I'll be there
with the spirit and heart.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
That's that's that's fine, Dane. I know you're with us
in spirit, and you have no idea how much I
appreciate the effort and the time and the money it
took for you to come to the last rally. So
God bless you and there's no need for you to apologize. Dane.
I know you're with us everywhere we go. Dane, what
do you make of all this?

Speaker 2 (48:09):
I see we've come to society where the perpetrator is
the victim and the victim is a perpetrator. I'm going
to tell you a quick story here, and I'll tell
you why. My brother I told you before. He was
murdered in a carjacking over thirty years ago in San
Diego on Mother's Day May. Okay. Now, last year they

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got some new evidence on one of the murder victims.
There was two murderers. They had some new evidence they
could finally bring him the trial. In trial, the defense attorney,
who was a well known defense criminal defense attorney for
thirty years, very cocky, arrogant, was pleading to dismiss this
murderer in jail in court, okay, in front of the

(48:58):
disc attorney my district. And then he's up there arguing
to dismiss this guy. Well, lo and behold, he drops
dead on the while arguing to dismiss him. Drops dead
of a heart attack in front of the judge and everybody.
He brought his family there there to tell how arrogant
he was gonna get this guy off. Drops dead of
a heart attack. Okay, So the judge of course clears

(49:22):
the court, gets everybody out of there, and in the
press he says he was such a fine attorney. I
knew his family, and I really feel sorry for him. Well,
he never told us to us, to us about that
in our family. The next court hearing Jeff, he dismisses
all charges against the murderer and lets him go. Now

(49:44):
the other murder, dang, can

Speaker 1 (49:47):
You hang on