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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number. Okay, the Schumer shutdown is over, or
it will be about the next probably forty eight hours.
Eight Democrats defected voted with the Republicans last night to
end the filibuster to reopen the government. Now there's still

(00:23):
some procedural hurdles parliamentary processes that need to play out,
so it will take another day or two, but effectively
the shutdown is now done. Schumer has lost. Trump has won.
Now I don't want to play much of it because
he's a very boring speaker. He's very dry, no emotion.

(00:48):
But if you listen to the words, just the content,
and I'm gonna sum up most of it for you.
The independent from Maine who caucuses with the Democrats, Angus King,
he was one of the eight that bolted from Schumer's
ranks and voted to end the shutdown. He lays out

(01:08):
very honestly. I have to say I'm not a big
fan of him, but on this he was honest and
he let the cat out of the bag. He said,
you know, and you could see on his face like
he's stunned, he can't believe it. It's like you know, fighting
a boxer, and everybody says, oh, wait till the deep rounds. Oh,
once you go into the deep rounds, they always oh,

(01:29):
that boxer always folds. Oh no, can't, can't go hey
past the eighth ninth round, He's finished. So the Democrats
were so confident that the Republicans would do what they
always do capitulate, cave, start to concede, give up. But
this time it was a solid, unbreakable wall, and so

(01:55):
Angus King. And this, by the way, this was the
key moment on Friday. It was a sign of desperation
on the part of Schumer. Schumer says, Okay, I'm willing
now to reopen the government. I just want now one concession,
extend the Affordable Care Act subsidies for one year. Remember

(02:18):
they wanted a permanent extension. In other words, just keep
funding it year after year. Schumer now says, no, no,
I'll just do it for one year, just one year,
and that's it. And we'll return to this issue next
year and I'll sign off on any continuing resolution. Trump
right away said to Thune, that's it. That's it. He's

(02:42):
given up. Now. The key part of his bargaining, his
key demand it now. It's obvious he's now in trouble.
Cracks are forming, he's now retreating. Say no, say no,
you're getting nothing. You're going to get no extension, not
for a day, not for a month, not for a year. Ever,

(03:07):
And when the Republicans voted against that one year extension,
Schumer knew the game was up. Listen now to Angus King,
roll cut seven, Mike.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
And it was our judgment, after six weeks, going on
seven weeks of this shutdown, that that path wasn't working.
The test was last week when the Majority leader put
forward a proposal that was pretty simple, straightforward, one year
extension of the tax credits. It was met with universal
opposition in the Republican caucus. It wasn't going to happen.

(03:46):
So the question before us, before those of us here
who decided to vote yesternight, the question was does the
shutdown further the goal of achieving some needed support for
the extension of the tax credits. Our judgment was that
it it will not. It would not produce that result.

(04:09):
And the evidence for that is almost seven weeks of
fruitless attempts to make that happen.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
In other words, it went on four weeks, five weeks,
six weeks, seven weeks, and he's like, they're just not bending,
and so they're like they're just not going to bend.
That's it begins to dawn on them, like they're not
caving like they always cave. And then listen to this.
Here's Angus King roll cut seven eight A seven A

(04:38):
forgive me seven A Mike.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Would it?

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Would it change in a week or another week or
after Thanksgiving or Christmas? And there's no evidence that it would.
What there is evidence of is the harm that the
shutdown is doing to the country, what it's doing to
millions of federal workers, but also what is doing to

(05:03):
tens of millions of recipients of SNAP. This is a
true crisis for those individuals.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
In other words, what he's saying is Trump told them,
take it to Christmas. I don't care to take it
to Sorry, take it to Thanksgiving. I don't care take
it to Christmas. I don't care if you want to
take it into the New Year. I don't care, because
I'm gonna blame you. And when people start going hungry,

(05:33):
I'm gonna blame you. And when people can go to
Thanksgiving dinner because all the airlines are shut down and
all the flights have been canceled. I'm gonna blame you.
And if God forbid, a plane falls out of the
sky or does a collision, I'm gonna blame you. And
so they were like lobsters in a pot, and Trump

(05:55):
just kept boiling it and boiling it and boiling it
and boiling it. And that's why. So in the end,
Angus King says, well, we got to vote on extending
the Obamacare subsidies, as if like somehow that's kind of
a moral victory. And he even says it. He goes,

(06:17):
are the Republicans going to vote for it? No? Are
they going to vote for it in the House, No,
in the Senate.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
No.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
But at least we're quote pushing the conversation forward. Basically,
you got nothing. Six one seven two six, six, sixty eight,
sixty eight lines are loaded. Joe in the hull. Thanks
for holding Joe, and welcome.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Jeff. How you doing. I love your show? Thank you, Joe.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Here's the issue that we're not really talking about. The
Republicans have been letting us down and doing the same
olde nothing the whole time they've been in Johnson promised
us in the fall, in the spring that that the
how that they passed, which is Biden's budget and Nancy
Pelosi's budget, funds all the things that we hate, that

(07:12):
that would be the last one.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
We'd do twelve.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Appropriations bills and.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
We would have them ready by summer.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
By smer when his Republicans wouldn't we vote for he
promised in the fall that they would be done regular
or that they would have the the budget all done,
a Trump budget that funds his agenda. But the that
they voted on today is Biden's budget passed by him
and Pelosi in twenty two and that's the one that's

(07:41):
going to be continued. So it's all his funding priorities.
And secondly, when we talk about ending the bill of
Uster number one, like you said, they're on the vote,
so that wouldn't happen. But but uh, anyways, my main

(08:02):
point was that the Obamacare subsidies what they do. My
wife works for an emergency room, and if we say
we're not going to give them to the insurance companies,
then the insurance companies won't pay the hospitals. But we
have a law that says if somebody walks into the
emergency room. My wife has to save them. She has to.
She can't let them die on the steps. So all

(08:24):
the bills for the tests, the nurse that was paid,
the doctor that was paid, they have to get out
of the hospital's budget, and the hospital will close because
the hospital will not be reimbursed because there is no insurance.
So because of that reason, that healthcare system will collapse
without the Obamacare subsidies. Unless for the fifteen years they've

(08:46):
been telling us the Republicans will shull we pass a
new healthcare plan, which by saying that we're just going
to give the money to the people to decide what
they're going to do with it, which is delayed poopoll
so moves nothing because if the insurans companies don't get
the money, they won't pay the bills. People aren't going
to go in and pay twenty thousand dollars for their

(09:06):
tests and life saving behavior, like my wife said, can
be giving you They're not going to let you get
a those job, but it can be giving you a
high blood pressure medication, so they don't have to do
forty thousand dollars open hot surgery on you in six months.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Well, yeah, Joe, you make a lot of points. Look,
if they're gonna do Trump's plan, which is really the
plan of this guy, Bill Cassidy. He's a Senator from Louisiana, Republican,
he's a doctor, it's going to be more than just
giving people money into their health savings accounts. It's going
to be a comprehensive healthcare reform plan that's going to

(09:43):
overturn and replace Obamacare. So obviously we don't want hospitals
going bankrupt. We can't afford to have hospitals going bankrupt.
So no, they're gonna they will take care of it.
They should take care of it. Joe, Look, I want
to go back to your initial point. You're completely right
about Mini Mike. You're right. I remember distinctly, Mini Mike

(10:04):
said in the summer, this is it, last CR, no
more CRS, and then fall this is it. I'm telling
you no more CRS. And now they've got a CR
until January thirty first of next year. And you're completely right.
This is all Biden level funding. Now what Mini Mike
is saying, this is what he says, is that they're

(10:26):
going to pass all twelve appropriations bills by the end
of January, and that they're gonna cut a lot of
the Biden spending, especially under COVID and the pandemic, where
I mean, they jacked up the subsidies, they jacked up
the tax credits. They put about fifty million people on

(10:48):
food stamps. Just under Biden a loan, it was twenty
seven million people on food stamps. By the time Biden
was done, it was forty two million. So they say
that they're going to start getting all these people off
of food stamps. They're gonna go back to pre pandemic spending.
I'll see it. Sorry, I'll believe it when I see it.

(11:10):
But so look, yeah, I mean, Joe, this is Trump's problem.
John Thune is a swamp creature. Minnie Mike is a
swamp creature. Most of the Republicans in Congress are swamp creatures.
And let me be even more honest with you, Joe,
it's an open secret on Capitol Hill except for a

(11:33):
handful of members of Congress. And I mean I'm talking
two hands, okay, two hands, five in the House, maybe
five in the Senate. The ninety five percent of the
Republican Party in Congress can't stand Trump publicly. Yeah, of
course they're for him. They love him privately, they hate him.

(11:57):
They want him to go away, literally, want him to
just run out the clock, have him leave and replace
him with a typical establishment globalist Republican. Let me just
give you an example. Congressman Mike Lawler from New York. Okay,
big mouth, he's always on TV, a big rhino. He

(12:18):
was caught Mike after Mike, hot, Mike after hot Mike
mocking Trump. This is before Trump was elected re elected
in twenty twenty four. He's crazy, he's a buffoon. He's
a lunatic. You know, he should never be allowed to
come back to power after January. Researcher should be arrested.
Who can take this guy? Seriously? Trump wins in November

(12:41):
twenty twenty four. By the way, wins Lawler's district. Big
so now his voters love Trump. Suddenly Lawler comes out.
Trump's a great man, great president. We got to back him,
we gotta support him. I've got Trump's back. Okay. This
is what Trump deals with on a daily basis. That's why,

(13:05):
unlike others, I always cut him some slack because I'm like,
you don't know what he's dealing with. Judases every single day,
literally who speak out of both sides of their mouth
to his face. Yeah, I'm with you, mister President. Behind
his back, they're looking to sabotage him. So you're completely right, Joe.

(13:30):
You know, the swamp is far from being you know,
from being dead. But Trump now keeps pressuring Thoon, he
keeps pressuring a mini Mike Mike Johnson. And hopefully we're
gonna see some appropriations bills where they actually cut spending,
where they actually get people off of welfare, where they

(13:52):
get illegals off of the food stamp roles, and yes,
where they finally repeal and replace Obamaca, like it's been
fifteen years they've been promising to do this, do it. So,
Joe in a nutshell, I hear you, and I feel
sorry for Trump because I'm telling you, he's surrounded by

(14:15):
traders in suits and who blow kisses in his ear
but are looking to shank him at every turn. Joe,
thank you very much for that call. Six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight. And by the way,
they use the excuse of the filibuster whenever Trump. For example,

(14:36):
Trump says, well, let's pass a national voter ID law.
We can't do it. Why not the filibuster? We just
can't get sixty votes. The Democrats, they'll never go for it.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
See that.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
By the way, John Thune is a pure swamp creature,
pure swamp creature, if anything, even more more of a
swamp creature, and even more corrupt than MENI, Mike, Mike Johnson.
And who's standing up? Notice who? Now he stands up
to Trump? When Trump says, look, guys, let's end this

(15:07):
filibuster and let's pass what I campaigned on. Suddenly, Oh no,
over my dead body, suddenly John Thoon, Oh he'll fight
you to the death, because ultimately he's of the swamp,
by the swamp, for the swamp. So that's why Trump

(15:29):
is saying no and the filibuster. And then I want
to have Republicans on the record national voter ID law
upper down, and mail in balloting up or down, and
all welfare federal benefits to illegals up or down. And
let's see where Republicans really stand. Six one seven two, six,

(15:54):
six sixty eight sixty eight is the number? Okay, barreled question,
should we end the filibuster? Trump says, yes, Honestly, I've
now come around some Republicans still say no. Most importantly,
what say you? And the shutdown is effectively now over

(16:20):
and the Democrats have caved. Six one seven two six
six sixty eight. Sixty eight is the number Mike in
Long Island. Thanks for holding Mike, and.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Welcome good morning, Jeff. I have one question. Can the
Republicans end the filibuster, the past the laws they need
to save America, then also pass the law making the
filibuster permanent?

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Well, you can't make the filibuster permanent. I mean they
could pass a law to restore like the sixty vote,
in other words, past the MAGA agenda and then say, okay,
we passed trump campaign platform, right, we passed all of
the issues he ran on, and then let's put it
back to sixty votes. They could do that, but the

(17:08):
Democrats would then come back and say, well the stone
was broken. You know. So you guys, you know, you
invote the nuclear option, you took it from sixty to
fifty one, now you put it back up to sixty. Well,
now we're going to take it back to fifty one.
Maybe we'll put it up to sixty or not. So
in other words, you know, it's like if they do

(17:28):
the nuclear option in theory, you're right, But the Democrats,
once they come back, they're going to end and they're
going to end the filibuster, you know, should they ever
come back, My hope in prayer, honestly is that they
end the filibuster. Pass voting reform the most of all

(17:49):
of it, that's the most important. Clean elections, election integrity laws,
clean up our voting system and our voting roles, and
maybe then the Democrat will lose election after election after
election and then realize, you know what, let's become moderates again.
This whole open borders illegal immigration experiment that we tried

(18:14):
has blown up in our face. In other words, force
the Democrats to win an honest election and if they
have to, because if they have to win an honest election,
they actually have to cater to the American people, to
American citizens, not to illegals. So that means they got
to be responsive to American citizens, which means they got

(18:35):
to come up with good policies. So that's what I'm hoping.
But look, just for the record, fun has said no.
Other Republicans in the Senate, you know, Lisa Murkowski has
said no. Susan Collins has said no. Mitch McConnell obviously
has said no. Rand Paul I believe has said no.

(18:56):
So they don't have the votes right now. Trump is
hoping to put pressure on them that maybe some of
them will change their mind, but as things stand right now,
they do not have fifty one votes to end the filibuster. Okay,
let's go to Michelle in Weymouth. Thanks for holding Michelle,

(19:17):
and welcome.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
Hi, Hi Jess. It's Rochelle.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Rochelle. I'm so you see what I gotta deal with here.
Look at this Rachelle, and they have Michelle up on
the board. That's just anyway. It's but you know, according
to Mike, I'm the bad guy. According to Mike, I'm
the I'm the one who's unprofessional. All right, But go ahead, Rochelle.
The floor is yours.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
Yeah. I agree with Trump. I if we could get
rid of the filibuster, I think that'd be great. But
you know, we have rhinos and that's a reality that
we're dealing with right now. I have two alternatives for
what we could do. Either bring back the old where
you have to stand there you have to like not

(20:03):
either or drink anything for twenty four hours and you
have to stand there for like ten or fifteen or
twenty four hours and give an endless speech. I mean,
they couldn't do to this country what they just did.
If they had to do that, you know that we
would never see another long shutdown like this if they
had to do that.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
And then my.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
Second alternative would be, do you know, invoke the nuclear option,
do away with it temporarily, as the Democrats did in
twenty fourteen. Just do away with it temporarily for the
sole purpose of electoral reforms such as you know, voter
id make you know, no more voter season, no more

(20:44):
electoral season, bring it back to one election day.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Oh yeah, one day voting, sorry, Rachelle. Another thing Trump
is pushing is one day voting. You're right, not this.
You know they vote for sixty days, you know, early
voting before the election, before election day, Rochelle. But just
to go back to your first point, so you're saying,
if there's going to be a government shut down, force

(21:06):
them to all sit in the chamber, no food, no water,
And basically, okay, you're gonna shut the government down, Fine,
then you got to stay there in the chamber, no water,
no food. I guess we'll give them a bathroom break.
But that's about it. And until you guys hash out

(21:27):
a way to keep the government funded, correct, have to.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
Stand there and make an endless speech for like twenty
four hours or something, as long as they possibly can.
How long would they be able to keep that up?

Speaker 1 (21:38):
You know what I'm saying, Well, no food and no water, Michelle,
I'm done in twenty four hours. I'm just speaking for
me now. I don't know people. I mean, could you
go more than twenty four hours without food and water?

Speaker 3 (21:52):
No?

Speaker 5 (21:53):
I don't think so. But that's the point. That's the point.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
No, No, I agree, I'm just you know, you know,
and if you throw into no bathroom break, you say
no because you guys may start drinking water from the
sink in the bathroom or something. So you say no,
no bathroom break, Well then you really got him by
the tonsils, you know, by the short hairs.

Speaker 5 (22:16):
Well, I mean I still kind of stand up and
do a speech, an endless speech, you.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Know that, No, I'm with you. In other words, what
they typically do when they do a filibuster. You know,
they'll just speak and speak and speak. But even then,
they can eat, they can drink water, they can temporarily
pass the baton off to another senator,
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