The Loss of Respect

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number Scott in Kingsborough. I know you've been
holding patiently, Scott. Thanks and welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey, Jeff, thanks for having me on my pleasure Scott.
So I'm in my I'm I'm on a job site,
so let me run right off the door real quick.
So I'm in my mid fifties and back in my
younger days, I had a juvenile record, and I don't

(00:36):
know why the law is not more strict than the
kids today. Because trying to make the story short, but
I remember the Judd saying if I see you in
here one more time, you're going away, and it kind
of smartened straightened me up a little bit, you know
what I mean. Being that young and you know, hearing
those words go away, you know, be taken away from

(00:58):
home kind of straighten me out. So I don't know
why the laws are not more strict, Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
If I'm getting too personal, please tell me. I promise
I won't be offended. But what were you in court for?
What had you done?

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Jeff? We did whatever it took to get the cops
to chase us. You know, we were just having fun.
We weren't rude to anybody, but I was. I'm one
of the middle I'm a middle child. Whatever, not using
it for an excuse, but I was a hyper. I
was pretty hyper, and you know, just my friends and I.

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We did it for fun, you know, to us, it
was fun, but you know, we were paying the price.
And the other thing, Jeff is the judge gave me
eight hundred hours of community service because my mom couldn't
pay the fine. So, you know, I don't know if
that helps with straighten out the youth today.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Interesting, Scott, if you don't mind me asking, because the
argument that's being made and why they're pushing these laws
is they're saying, well, if Scott was going around, say
vandalizing or you know, just causing public disorder in Mayhem,
that that's because he had bad parents. That's because of

(02:22):
bad parenting. That's why we should hold Scott's parents, you know,
say you apply the law retroactively to your time. They
would say, well, no, Scott's mom should go to jail
for ninety days or his father should go to jail
for ninety days, because if you know, if Scott is
going around, you know, with vandalizing or putting graffiti or

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misbehaving or causing problems for the police. That's because his
parents did a horrible job raising him. They weren't tough enough,
they didn't discipline him enough. They were essentially absentee bad parents.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
What say you, I would say that it's wrong against
the comparents because we knew, you know, you're at that
age where you knew you were doing something that's going
to get you in trouble, you know, and looking back
at that, we went as far as we could, I guess,

(03:19):
And it comes back to the law kind of straightened
me out.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
And uh so you're saying, Scott, Scott, you did not
have bad parents. You didn't have parents that said, hey, Scott,
do whatever you want, we don't care. You know, you
didn't have parents that said, Scott, you want to come
home at three in the morning. Come at home at
three in the morning, Scott, you want to commit crimes,
we don't care. You're saying you had parents that taught

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you right from wrong, did the best they could, and
raised you properly and decently. You just thought it was fun, which,
by the way, for many teenagers they do find it fun.
And you said, you know, let me make some. Hey,
let me make some. Let me be a bit of
a you know, a crap disturber as they say, and
you know, let me let me raise a ruckus. And

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you had a good time for a while until it
ran out, until your parents stepped in and the judge
stepped in.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Correct, correct, Mostly you know, I was a big kid.
I'm one of those. You know, my mother was one
of those parents where my mother would try to discipline
me and then you know, she had to work and
take care of for kids. And you know, I got
grounded here in there. But it wasn't you know, lockdown,

(04:41):
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
No, No, I understand.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
No.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Look, your mom did the best she could, obviously, and
she raised you right. She raised you knowing right from wrong.
She grounded you when she could. But you know, after
a while, you're a big kid. You're a big kid.
And unless you have a father, strong father figure in
the home with a firm hand. Boys in particular sixteen seventeen,
eighteen years old, I mean they're like an unguided weapon.

(05:05):
I mean that's just the fact. And many of them
will get into trouble. They do straighten out like you,
and they end up having a very successful, prosperous, you know,
meaningful life. But they have to get straightened out. That's
the whole point. And you've nailed it. We used to
have a much tougher juvenile system judges with you know,

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with exactly what you talked about. Now, look, I'm gonna
you know, I'm gonna punish you. But you do it again.
I'm telling you you're going away, and you're like, oh,
what do you mean going away? You're gonna go, like
to jail for a long time. You understand like it's
going to change your life forever, so you better smart
en up, kid, and usually go okay, w ohoh, it's
not funny games anymore. And usually it works. It snaps

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people into place. And that's what happened to you. And
you know, I bet you're very successful, and I bet
you do very well at construction, and I bet you're
a wonderful family man. And I'm positive. So that's what
I mean. They have no law in order. They're not
punishing juvenile offenders. They are coddling the kids. They're tying

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the hands of parents. And then after they've destroyed everything.
That's what these liberals have done. Everything. Now they want
to try to blame the parents. Now they so you
won't put the juvenile in jail or whatever, as community
service or whatever, or military boot camp, or there's many
ways you can do this. No, you won't inflict consequences

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on the on the miners that are committing these heinous crimes,
but you're going to go after the parents, many of
whom as your mother is literally doing the best she
can and is working her rear end off to put
food on the table. That's why to me, this is disgusting. Now,
if we don't stop this, I'm telling you it's coming here.

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It's gonna come to Massachusetts. It's gonna come to New Hampshire,
it's gonna come to Rhode Island. It's going to come
across New England. It's going to go across the Northeast.
It's already in New Jersey, and you're going to see
it in other places. They're experimenting with this in Minnesota,
in Illinois, in Washington State, in Oregon. In other words,

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think about how how pernicious, how dangerous this principle is.
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number. Okay, this is from a very good
friend of mine, very dear friend, huge supporter of the show,
a Vietnam veteran by the way, just an overall great guy, okay,
and a conservative's conservative. So I'm a little shocked at

(07:39):
the text that he set me because it's so unlike him.
But then again, I go back to what I said
in my opening monologue. We've all done stupid things as
deam or most of us have done stupid things as teenagers.
That's just what teenagers do. They do stupid things. Well,
my good friend, there's no exception, So listen to the Jeff.

(08:01):
When I was fourteen years old, I was running with
a bunch of jerks. We were having fun, but we
were jerks. One night, we decided to tear down a
fence for no reason at all, and the police arrested us.
My dad arrived at the police station, looked at me

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in the cell and said, quote unquote, lock him up,
and then he went home. Spending a night in jail
on a cold piece of concrete with a stale donut
and cold coffee for breakfast before I had to go
to court was all I needed to realize I had

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been an idiot. My father did the right thing, the
judge gave me a year of probation and said I
would go to jail if I ended up in his
courtroom again. Been a law abiding, good citizen ever since.
And I thank my father for that moment of clarity.

(09:08):
And and then he this is the thing he added
after this, He said, Jeff, I don't think I've ever
felt more embarrassed or ashamed in my whole life. That happens,
That's what I That's why again, I know his father
was you know this Bill Smitty as I call him Smitty.

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I'm positive Spitty's father was a great dad. I'm positive
his mother was a great mom. You couldn't, you know,
I mean, nobody's perfect, but you couldn't get a I'm
sure you couldn't get better parents. They taught him right
from wrong, They raised him right, They did everything right.
And still the teenagers are going to do stupid things.

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Now imagine, you know, let's you know, bring it up
to today. And they happened to live in New Jersey,
in Gloucester County, sorry, Gloucester Township. Suddenly the father's facing
ninety days in jail because his son hung out with
a bunch of jerks. As he put it and for
the hell of it. Hey, it sounds like a great
idea at the time. They tore down. I'm sorry, it's

(10:14):
funny they tore down. I mean, it's not funny to
the person that it's happening to, but it's just a
funny story. They tore down a whole fence and the
cops caught him and they got arrested. I mean, it's
and he's right. His father did the right thing. No, son,
you're going to pay the consequences and you keep doing this.
This is the road you're going down. And that straightened

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him up. Scared the living the Jesus out of them,
scared the living daylights out of him. Now here, just
one other, very quick story. This happened to my son,
supposedly from a good friend to his and I told him,
this is not much of a friend. But this is
what I mean. This kid lives on our street. I'm
not going to say the person's name, but those of

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you listening who live on my street, my neighborhood, you
know exactly who this kid is. He is out of control.
His parents never discipline him. They spoil him rotten. This
kid thinks he can do whatever he wants with no
consequences whatsoever. And one day Ashton was coming back from

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school and this kid runs inside the house, grabs his
b B gun listen to this, and shoots Ashton in the
rear end and then shoots Ashton again in the back
of his leg, and he starts laughing. He thinks it's funny.

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He thinks it's funny. And Ashton ran home and something
was wrong. He was very upset at the dinner table.
Didn't say a word, and I go, Ashton, what's wrong, son?
I know something's wrong. Grace, Ashton, we know something's wrong.
He wouldn't tell us for twenty four hours. He felt

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so humiliated that this guy who he thought was his
friend treated him like this. And then he finally he
didn't tell me. He told Grace, and then Grace told
him to tell me. You could see the smoke coming
out of my ears. I was really mad at that kid,
and Ashton said, you know, I spoke to him afterwards.

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I confronted him. I said, never do that again, or
I'll never be your friend. He said, Dad, please, I'm
begging you. Don't go to his house. Don't tell his parents.
I was going to tell his parents off. I swear
to god, I was going to go and knock on
the door and say, what kind of an animal are
you raising here? Like this guy's taking a bb gun
and shooting my son in the ass, and you think
that's funny. Your son thinks it's funny. And by the way,

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he's a jerk to everybody else on the street. Just
to let you know, So said, you know, Sandy's not
very happy with my She thinks I'm too lax when
it comes to parenting my own kids. But anyway, because

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Ashton one time had a Swiss army knife that I
gave him, and we were traveling together and they found
the TSA found it in the luggage. So the TSA
found the Swiss army knife Ashton's luggage and they're like,
what the hell is this And they're like, well, my

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dad got it for me. Sandy's like, who, Hey, who
buys their kid a Swiss army knife? And who trying
to bring it on a plane. I go, look, Ashton
likes the Swiss army knife. Oh, you're right. I was
the one that was pulled over. I'm sorry, you're right,
I was pulled over by TSA. You're completely right. Because
I was carrying Ashton's Swiss army knife where he inserted

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it in my luggage. But anyway, so she's like, you know,
she doesn't feel too much sympathy for me. But I'm like,
you know, imagine if you shot him in the head,
you could have you could have gouged his eyes out,
you could have seriously maimed or hurt my son. Anyway,
Ashton said to me, Dad, please don't go. Don't confront

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the father, don't confront the mother. I spoke to him.
I told him I'm really upset with him. I'm disappointed.
Apparently the kid apologized, okay, so I let it go.
But my point is, I'm telling you, I've been telling
everybody this. This kid's gonna end up in jail. This
kid is gonna end up, I'm telling you. And you know,

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he comes over to our house and it's the winter time.
We have a pool, and of course there's ice, you
know on the pool, right, it's full of ice on
the pool. You know what this kid tells him. It
tells Avan Ashton, hey, let's all jump on the ice.
And luckily my two children went into the home and said, Dad,

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I don't want to say this kid's name, I'm just
gonna call him Bobby. Bobby says we should go on
the ice. I'm like, over my dead body, you tell
Bobby get lost and go home, because you're going to
crack the ice and both of you or all three
of you are going to go down into the water
and you're gonna drown and you're all gonna be dead.

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This kid's an idiot. So I'm just telling you there
are some kids, bad influence, bad seed, bad parents, and
if they don't turn things around, it's not going to
end well for them. But you know, don't to me. Ultimately,
it's up to the parents. You have to know how

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to raise your kid. And if your kid's walking around
with a BB gun that you bought them and he's
shooting people in the rear end, you got a problem.
K Train in mald beIN. Thanks for holding K Train
and welcome.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
How you doing good?

Speaker 1 (15:58):
I'm very good. How are you? K Train?

Speaker 5 (16:00):
Well? I'm enjoying this show because all those bad experiences.
I was that horrible child.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
The which one were you? The one the BB gun
shooting like a kid in the rear end?

Speaker 5 (16:12):
Oh yeah, I lived across from a football field. Kids
would try to put their bike over the fence. I
would wait for them to get to the top of
the fence and shoot them in the ass when they fall.
But I also went on to become school committee member.
But I was the custodian of the school beforehand and
had a key to every classroom. Everyone today speaking is

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a little right, but we have two.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
You know, Mike, really, I gotta tell you, man, you know,
the power is really starting to get to your head. Mike, Okay,
let's go right back to K train in mal Den
K Train. You're a bit of a troublemaker when you
were a teenager. Please K train pick up where you
left off.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
The easiest way to describe it is I was the
blonde kid from the Karate Kid. No exaggeration, Okay, so
I but then I became the custodian, and then I
became the school committee, and so I had a key
to every classroom. There should be a camera in every classroom.

(17:20):
It's a public area, just like the train station. There's
no legal right to say no. Every child, this is
their worst nightmare. Is a camera in every classroom and
then you could see what your child's doing in class.
Your child gets too felonies. Maybe the second one should
be on you. But there's plenty of technology to give

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the parents tools. Right now, we get a senator who's
trying to take cameras out of every kid's Why does
he want to do that? So there's no one knows
what's going on in these schools, there are public areas,
a camera in every classroom. I know that girl Lisa
from Malden would love that. She would prosper with that.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
I agree k Tran, and I completely agree. I think
it's a great suggestion. I would and I don't know
if you agree with this or not, but I would
go cameras in the classroom, cameras in the hallway, cameras
in the cafeteria, cameras outside in the in the schoolyard,
cameras on the bus the school bus. People behave like
idiots now on the school bus. I would have cameras

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every I mean in terms of school, I'd have them everywhere.
See how your child is behaving, and honestly see what
these poor teachers and principles have to deal with on
a daily basis. And then you can they can point
to you and say, hey, look we have the footage
look at your child. Look how your child's behaving. You know,
that's that's your child throwing an eraser at my head.

(18:45):
That's that's your that's your little Jimmy. Ye know, honestly,
maybe really Mike's Mike is laughing. But maybe if the
teachers wear body cameras, I mean, if the cops have
to wear them, let the teachers wear them. Not because
they're doing anything wrong, but like just really like this
is a day in my life as a teacher. And you,

(19:07):
you know, and say you think you're doing a good
job parenting, take a look at what your child becomes
when the moment they come onto school grounds. And honestly,
I think parents are going to be ashamed when they
say what So I've told Ashton and Ava over and
over again, you better not get in trouble. I said,
If you get in trouble with them, it's nothing compared

(19:27):
to the trouble you're going to get at home with
mommy and especially with big Daddy. Okay, Mommy is going
to soften you up for me, and so I go.
I always tell them this, I don't care if you
get an A, A B, A C. I don't like
a D because to me, that means you're not working hard.
But I don't. I said, look, I don't care what

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your grades are as long as I see that you're
working hard and you're trying your best. So don't complain
to me about pressure. There's no pressure. I just want
you to do your homework and pay attention in class.
But what I will not accept is you misbehaving in
the classroom or disrespecting your teacher or god forbid, you know,
fighting or causing problems or being a bully or anything

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like that. So I've laid down very clear markers for them,
and it's just it will not be accepted. And I
tell them this, they better not complain because if mommy's mad,
I'm mad, and you don't want me mad. So Kate Train,
I think it's a great idea, A great idea. K Train.

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As always, thank you very much for that call. Bruce
in Woburn. Thanks for holding Bruce, and welcome Bruce, buddy,
my friend, what do you make of this? The moonbats
now want to put parents in jail if their kids

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break the law? What say you?

Speaker 3 (20:57):
They're out there like Pluto. But Jeff, listen, my main
thing is these teachers in these schools. They've taken away
the pledge of allegiance to the flag. They've taken away
silent prayer, They've taken away everything, and now these kids
are running rampant. Now I got everybody beat that have

(21:21):
talked about what they did for trouble. I say, bring
back the woodshed, because I went through it. But when
I got to be fifteen, the woodshed wasn't. My father
didn't paddle me with the razor strap when I deserved it,
and I would have been John Dillinger. But I blew
up a mailbox, Jeff, when I was fifteen years old,

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because they burnt our fourth down in the woods. And
the FBI picked me up at Mahoney's Rocky Ledge, and
they were like the Blues Brothers.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
They were like.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Dressed men in black. They came and scoffed me up, Jeff.
And when I got they drove me to the house
and I saw the state police. I saw a woving police,
the chief of police. And then I saw my father's car.
And that was the biggest scare for me.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
It wasn't the FBI, it wasn't the state police. It
was it was your father's car.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Because he had top security clearance. He was on all
the intercontinental missile ballistic programs with Drapea Labs. He was
he and he raised six kids, and he was gonna
lose his job because his son. I mean, I blow
up a mailbox, Jeff.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
No, Bruce, I'm sorry I missed. And I thought you
were just mad because you know your fat like me.
I mean, if if I was arrested by the FBI,
I wouldn't be worrying about the FBI the state police.
I'd be like, my dad's gonna kill me. No, I
didn't know that angle about, you know, top security clearance,
and he'd lose his job. Luckily, everything turned out okay,
and you certainly turned out okay,