The President Lashes Out

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Cooner country. Okay, my friends, let me be
brutally honest with all of you, like I'm in the confessional,
as I like to say, I was planning on talking
about the economy. Trump's incredible achievements with the economy. Frankly,

(00:23):
his massive successes in the last six months. To me,
I've never seen any president ever have as many consequential
achievements as he has had over the last six months,
the first six months of any presidency. And I wasn't
planning on talking about Epstein or the Epstein files or

(00:45):
the Epstein list, because we've done several shows and you
know where I stand, and most of you have expressed
where you stand. But holy Shimoli, holy mackerel, you want
to talk about Trump having and I mean just an
angry reaction. You want to talk about Trump, I mean

(01:09):
just giving it now to some of his supporters, In fact,
many of his supporters with both barrels. He went on
truth Social yesterday and he let it all hang out.
And what you can tell now is that the demand
of many of his supporters, I would even say, in

(01:30):
some ways, maybe even a majority of his supporters, for
the Epstein files to be released for there to be
complete and utter transparency and accountability for what Epstein, and
not just Epstein, but his sex trafficking network on behalf
of the victims of all of these pedophiles, powerful men

(01:52):
who used Epstein to victimize and sexually abuse countless underage earls,
including children. That this demand, now that we see all
of the information and that they'd all be released, is
now clearly clearly upsetting him now to the point where

(02:15):
we have to ask ourselves, has Trump now gone too far?
Or was he just blowing off steam? Is he just
ultimately just exasperated and just kind of vented, or is
this now a significant break with many and I mean

(02:36):
many of his voters. So on Monday morning, yesterday morning,
President Trump released an absolutely explosive post on truth Social
and let me just sum it up quickly because it's
a very long post, but let me give you the
the the heart of it. He writes that regarding the

(03:00):
Epstein files and the demand to release the files, according
to Trump, this is what he wrote. My past supporters
have bought into this. I can't say the word I'm
gonna get fined bull you know what, have bought into this?
Bs Okay, this bull crap. Let's put it that way,

(03:23):
hook line, and sinker. And he went on to say,
let and I remember he's talking now about mega he's
talking about Trump voters, Trump supporters. Let these weaklings continue
forward and do the Democrats work. Don't even think about

(03:43):
talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don't
want their support anymore. He then added, I have had
more success in six months than perhaps any president in
our country's history. And all these people want to talk about,

(04:05):
with strong prodding by the fake news and the success
starved Democrats is the Jeffrey Epstein hoax. And then he
went on to say, in particular, he really forget doubling now,
he's tripling down that the Epstein files, he says, are
one of the great hoaxes of our time. And so

(04:27):
he starts to say that it's comparable, as he put it,
to the Steel dose k to the Russia collusion hoax,
to the Hunter Biden laptop, saying, quote, these scams and
hoaxes are all the Democrats are good at. It's all
they have. They are no good at governing, no good

(04:50):
at policy, no good at picking winning candidates. And so
he basically what he's saying is and in fact, I'll
play you the cut. He then told Report Orders, these
supporters of mine, they keep asking us to release the files,
are quote unquote stupid. They're stupid, and I don't want
their support, and that they're falling into this hoax that

(05:14):
is now being pushed and peddled by the Democrats. And
according to Trump, the Epstein files are a creation of
Barack Obama, Joe Biden, John Brennan, James Camy, and the
same gang that gave us the Steele Dosier Russia collusion,
the Hunter Biden laptop, that it was the fifty one

(05:36):
intelligence agents who lied the laptop from Hell, claiming it
was Russian, this informatsu when it really was obviously Hunter
Biden's laptop. So he's now saying it's an absolute hoax.
And all you want me to do now is focus
on this hoax. And by doing this, I'm playing the

(05:58):
Democrats' game. Is going to be a scandal that will
take over my presidency while we're not talking or focusing
on my incredible achievements both at home and abroad. And
so basically he says, I don't want your support anymore.
In fact, as he puts it. These are my quote
past supporters. In other words, I don't want much to

(06:21):
do with them anymore. Now let me just write, let
me right out of the gate, give you exactly my take,
and then I really want to hear from you. Kooner
country six one seven two six six, sixty eight, sixty eight.
And I would love to take calls right after the break.

(06:41):
So if you want to get on, now is the
time to do it. I think part of it, clearly,
it's a temper tantrum. He's angry, he's frustrated, he's done
so much in six months, and now he feels, from
Trump's point of view, he feels betrayed. I think he

(07:02):
feels angered and betrayed by many of his supporters who
are talking about the Epstein files, who want the Epstein
files to be released, who are saying this is clearly
now a moral stain on his presidency, and he feels
in some sense betrayed. And I understand his anger. I do.

(07:23):
I understand his frustration. I clearly do. But sometimes it's better,
you know, write something, get it off your chest, and
then file it. It's you shouldn't sometimes press send, or
in this case, you know whatever return or whatever post this,

(07:47):
I think he should not have said. And I understand
his frustration, of course, I get it. You're, you know,
basically saying, look, I just want to get to work.
I don't want another, you know, another issue to paralyze
my presidency where I'm not able to continue to achieve
my goals. I've had it. It's enough. Look what I've done,

(08:09):
Look what we can continue to do. And I don't
want this now to devour and consume my presidency. So
I understand where he's coming from. But now what he's doing,
as I said on X last night, he is now
spitting in the face of millions and millions and millions,

(08:31):
maybe probably tens of millions of his own voters. He
is separating himself from and attacking his own people. That
there's no question. And when you come out and say
not only that they're stupid and that they're traders, and

(08:52):
that they're weak links, and that you know, essentially their
suckers for falling for this so called hoax, but then
you say say, and I don't want your support, Well, okay,
let's play this out. You don't want their support, let
me tell you what they're gonna do, They're gonna say, fine,
I'm never gonna We're not gonna vote for the Democrats obviously,

(09:12):
So when the midterms roll around, they're not gonna vote.
They won't vote for the Democrats, they won't vote for
you or the Republicans. So they're gonna stay home, which
means millions and millions and millions of his own voters
are going to stay home. Let me tell you what
that means. You can take it to the bank. That
means the Democrats are going to win back the House,

(09:34):
probably win back the Senate, and you're gonna get impeached
over nothing, over nothing, and the second the second half
of your second term is going to be consumed, paralyzed
by NonStop investigations and one impeachment after another. So I

(09:55):
don't see how you win from this. Again, as I
said on X, I think the this is a big mistake.
I understand the anger, I understand the frustration, and what
I don't get is what is wrong A with releasing
the files. I still don't get this. If there are

(10:15):
lies in there, if there are people who are being
unfairly accused, well we can We're smart enough, we can.
We can parse and differentiate and analyze. I mean, we
debunked the Steel dosier. We debunked the Hunter Biden laptop
story that it was disinformation. We debunked the Steel as

(10:36):
I said, the Russia collusion hoax. So if there are
lies in the in the files, we can we can
refute them, we can explode them, we can debunk them.
But even if you think there are good reasons not
to release the Epstein files, have Pam Bondi and Cash

(10:59):
Ptel do a press conference.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Has your attorneych other told you this was a hoax?

Speaker 3 (11:04):
What evidence they journey General? No, I know it's a hoax.
It's started by Democrats. It's been run by the Democrats
for four years. You had Christopher Ray and these characters
and call me before him, and it's a bad group.
It started. Actually, look at the Steele dscier that turned
out to be a total hoax. The fifty one Agency
intelligence so called intelligence agents, it was a hoax. It's

(11:28):
all been a big hoax. It's perpetrated by the Democrats,
and some stupid Republicans and foolish Republicans fall into the
net and so they try and do the Democrats work.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
That's just a taste of President Trump yesterday, he was angry.
He was on the war path six nineteen. Now on
the Great Wrko Jeff Coooner Boston's Bulldozer. Okay, lines are jammed.
I'm going to go right to the phone lines. Let
me ask all of you, and I'm going to be
repeating this pole question several times during the show because

(12:02):
this now represents Trump's most significant break with many many
of his supporters. So I want to get the temperature
of Kooner country again. The pole Question of the day,
sponsored by Marios Mario's Quality Roofing, Siding and Windows. President

(12:23):
Trump lashed out at MAGA and those and then their
focus on the Epstein files and said they were being
duped by Democrats and he did not need their support.
Does he mean it or was he just exasperated? Do

(12:45):
you think he's sincere? He basically you know here, here's
the middle finger kiss off by I don't want don't
ever support me again. I'm done with you. A. He
means it. B it's he was upset. It's a temper tantrum.
He's just exasperated, blowing off steam. And maybe he shouldn't

(13:08):
have put it in a post. So A he means
it b He's completely exasperated. I want to hear from you.
You can vote on our web page wrko dot com
slash cooner wrko dot com slash cooner kuh and is
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(13:31):
again I was active on X last night. My handle
there at the Cooner report all one word kuh n
e R Henry in Walpole. You're going to kick us off. Henry,
thanks for holding and welcome Jeff.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
I agree completely with Trump. Let's flush Epstein and Biden
down the toilet. Let's have no more discussion about those
two guys. That's if we allow this to continue. It's
going to consume Trump's administration for the next couple of years.

(14:10):
That's all We'll have hearings, denials, finger pointing, investigations, news coverage,
blah blah blah. That's all we'll be talking about. Trump
is right, drop it. It's over. Epstein's dead. He was
a pervert, as we're a lot of other people who

(14:31):
will deny it. So why do we want to carry
this on forever? Forget it? Flush Epstein down the toilet, Henry.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Let me ask you the fact that did you just
hang up Okay, I was gonna ask him a follow
up question, but let me ask it to you the audience.
The fact that he says to all of those who
want the files released, and remember, he's the one that
said he wanted to release the files initially, He's the
one that told PAMBONDI released the files. Remember this, this

(15:06):
is a very important point. Like this is what I
would say if I was if he and I were
in the living room, I'd say, well, you know, mister president,
what I all due respect, you told her to release
the JFK files, the Martin Luther King Junior files, and
the Epstein files. Now she hasn't released the files. Now
she says she's not going to release the files. So

(15:27):
she made a big deal that she was going to
release the files and then is done. On one to eighty.
You are now backing her decision. So according to your
own supporters, they're saying, well, didn't you promise us full transparency.
Didn't you tell us you were going to release it?
So now the problem is it looks like you're covering

(15:48):
up something. That's the problem, and you know, and ultimately
don't we want these people who prayed and raped and
molested children and under age girls. Don't we want to
see some kind of justice done now Again, what I
don't get is what skin off of his back or

(16:10):
Pam Bondi's back or Cash Patel's back for the Department
of Justice, Pambondy with Say Patel and Bongino beside her
to do, say a sixty minute or a ninety minute
press conference. If you're not going to release the files,
and you claim there are excellent reasons why you know
they're claiming well false, people may get ensnared, there's accusations

(16:33):
that are unproven. This could destroy people's careers without actually
having a conviction. Whatever. Okay, fine lay it out there,
explain it, talk you know, that's what you do. Give
your reasons why at least there's a sense then okay,
well there's some openness here. But instead it's we're not

(16:56):
releasing it and you're never going to see these files again.
And Epstein committed suicide. Shut up, don't ask any more questions.
There was no client list. Shut up, don't ask any
more questions. You know he never blockmailed anybody. Shut up,
don't ask any more questions. And we're not going to
prosecute anyone shut up and fall in line. And now

(17:21):
it's not even shut up and fall in line. Now
it's basically, you're a trader. According to him, you're stupid,
you're a weakling, You're a trader, and I don't want
your support.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
To me.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
It's the last one, you know. Okay, you want to
insult your own voters, that's up to you. But I
don't want your support. Without our support, you wouldn't be
president of the United States without our support. You wouldn't
be where you are now without the support of tens
and tens of millions of you know, these are hardcore

(17:59):
Trump voters want to see justice done regarding Epstein. So okay,
what if they stay at home. I'm just they're just
listening to you now. No, hey, I don't want your support.
I'm done with you. Okay, they stay home. What happens
in the midterms. So this is what I'm saying. I go,

(18:19):
I don't what are in those files? That's what I Honestly,
my reaction now is opposite of yours. Henry's what's in
those files? So I get it. You're angry. They're not
talking about everything that you've done, which is absolutely incredible. Okay,
President Trump. Now he's had it, He's reached his breaking point.

(18:44):
He's had it being asked questions about the Epstein files,
about the decision by Pam Bondi and the FBI, the
DOJ and the FBI to not release the files, and
the conclusions that they've made regarding epstein suicide, and whether
there is a client list, and whether he blackmailed anybody.

(19:05):
And so he let it rip, both on social on
true social attacking. This was what stunned everybody. He attacked
many of his supporters who have been calling for the
release of the Epstein files. He said, these are political weaklings,
some of the traders. He says he's had it with them,

(19:27):
that they're stupid people who are falling for what he
says is a hoax that was created by Obama and
Biden and Brennan. And call me and he says, you
know what, as far as I'm concerned, these are past supporters.
I do not want their support anymore. Listen now to Trump.
This was in the Oval Office, and I mean he

(19:50):
was red hot. A He was talking about the CEO
of Home Depot, which, by the way, I had the
cut I was gonna that was the plan for today's
show was how Trump is now really starting to kill
it on the economy. He is really now starting to
get his agenda through and it's starting to work, so

(20:10):
much so that even the CEO of Home Depot, who
is a Democrat, who said that Trump's tariffs were going
to be a disaster and sparker recession yesterday came out
with a big statement saying I was wrong. Trump was right.
His policies are working, his tariffs are working, and the

(20:33):
economy is now roaring back. Listen now to Trump saying,
nobody's talking about that because it's all Epstein all the time,
and I've had it roll cut one b Mike.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
A great gentleman yesterday's You Know What on CNBC, and
he made the statement that Trump, they go down, is
the greatest president of all in the United States States.
And instead of talking about the things we've achieved, We've
had tremendous achievement, they're wasting their time with a guy
who obviously had some very serious problems, who died three

(21:13):
or four years ago. I'd rather talk about the success
we have with the economy, the best we've ever had,
and all of the things we've done, including in the
Middle East. I mean, you see it. Instead they want
to talk about the Epstein hooks. And the sad part
is it's people that are really doing the Democrats work.

(21:33):
They're stupid people.

Speaker 5 (21:35):
Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
So he's talking about MAGA and Trump's supporters and voters.
Now one more. A reporter says, well, you know, in
your truth social you said you don't want their support anymore.
But you know you're done with them, don't. I want
nothing to do with you. Do you really mean it? Well?
Here was Trump's response, roll cut. In other words, are

(21:58):
you disowning now your supporters who want the Epstein files
to be released? Roll cut two, Mike, you.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Have mentioned past supporters when you're talking about the the
Epstein issue.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
Does that mean that you're effectively disowning any supporters who
are have.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Lots a lot of faith at certain people. Yeah, i'd
ask you because they got duped by the Democrats.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Okay, My question to you, what do you make now
of what Trump wrote and what he said that he
no longer wants to support of his own voters and
MAGA if they want to see the Epstein files released,
and for those of you that do, like me, who
do want to see the Epstein files released. Do you

(22:47):
feel betrayed by the president? Do you feel rejected and
disowned by the president? Six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight What do you think I think
now the political fallout of this is going to be
or was it just he's upset, he blew off some steam,

(23:09):
he's exasperated. But we'll all kiss and make up in
the end. Susie in Bedford, Thanks for holding and welcome.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Good morning Jeff, Hi, Good morning Jeff, Good morning Kooner country,
and good morning President Trump. I want to start with
I have all the respect and admiration for President Trump.
I am forever grateful for him stepping up to the
plate and doing his best to save our country because

(23:40):
we were going we were and you know, everybody says
we dodged a bullet No, we dodged an atomic bomb
by not getting Kamalama ding dong, dumb ass and tamp
on him for the administration. Now, I appreciate that, I
will always appreciate that. I will always be very thankful

(24:00):
and grateful. That being said, if there in fact is
not a little black book or a list, then my question,
first of all, is why is Gillay Maxwell's still in jail.
She has been indicted, she has been prosecuted, she has

(24:21):
been convicted. If there is no list, then why is
she in jail. Second most importantly, and this is this
is the point that I really, truly, honestly want to make.
I don't care about Epstein. He was foul, he was evil,
he was vile. What he did is was despicable, and

(24:47):
his victims deserve justice. Now, there are still people alive
that have not got there true come up. There's let's
say they have not been prosecuted for what they committed,
the vile, evil rape that they committed against children. These

(25:13):
children preserve to have to see that there is justice
out there. And you know what, I don't want to
vote for somebody. I don't care if they're a Republican
or Democrat. I don't want that vile, evil monster representing
our country. And I understand this is a worldwide problem.

(25:35):
It happened, there's people around the world. I don't care
about them. I care about my country. I love my country.
I am very patriotic. I will be patriotic to my
dying breaths. But I do not want evil, vile, pedophiles
representing my country in government or anywhere. There's one solution

(26:00):
for a pedophile, and that's to execute them, because there
is no rehabilitation and I'm not open for discussion about
that period. I don't care about the hoax or whatever
he's saying it is. I'm not stupid. I am relatively intelligent.

(26:21):
Most people in this country are relatively intelligent. We can
figure out what is fact and what is a lie.
But we need the opportunity to make that decision, not
have it made for ourselves. Because again, we're not a
communist country. We have the right to know, we have

(26:42):
the right to make that decision. We have the right
to not vote for these pedophiles and keep them in government.
We don't want them in government.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Susie, very powerful, very very powerful, very passionate, very moving.
I've got less than thirty seconds. Trump is saying, someone
like you who voted for him but wants these files
to be released, he doesn't want your support anymore. What's
your response.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
I'm gonna support him anyway, because I again I'm very grateful,
I'm very appreciative. I'm gonna support them regardless. I'm not
happy that you know, he's telling me what's in my
best interest.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
Again.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
I want these pedophiles prosecuted. I want them tell the accountable.
I want them to pay their their price for the
the bond.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Six one seven two six x sixty eight sixty eight
is the number. Okay, this is from six tozh three.
You can text the cooner man seven zero four seven
zero seven zero four seven zero uh. And I think
it's a very very interesting theory, Jeff. This is what
I think has happened. A few weeks ago, President Trump

(27:53):
ordered Pambondy to open up and release the Epstein files.
When his people opened up what they have, they discovered
that because the Democrats have had possession of these files
for the past four years, the deep state under Joe Biden,

(28:13):
has removed and destroyed anything that would implicate high level,
prominent Democrats. At the same time, the deep state inserted
into the files various kinds of false information implicating Donald Trump.

(28:33):
So when Trump was filled in by his DOJ and
FBI what was actually in the now corrupted and compromised files,
Trump said, this is all a load of bull I
can't say it, Bravo, Sierra. We can't release this to
the public. It's another Democrat hoax. That's exactly what I

(28:57):
think has happened here, and I think Trump needs to
handle this better by confronting and revealing what has actually happened. Now,
look on six ZHO three, I agree with you if this,
and I'm underlying the word if. If that's what happened,

(29:18):
and I wouldn't put anything past the Democrats. You're talking
about a bunch of crooks and gangsters. So if they do,
if they did destroy a lot of the files and
compromise the files and then inserted false information into the
files to try to implicate Trump or members of his
cabinet or god knows what, then to me, that's okay.

(29:42):
I mean it's not okay that they did it, but okay,
that's what it is. Then he needs to say it,
and I think clearly explain it to the public and
especially to his supporters, say look, here's what's happened. I
asked them to look into it. The files have been destroyed,
a lot of them have, They've been compromised and corrupted,

(30:04):
and they're trying to turn this now into another hoax.
In other words, explain talk more transparency, but this my
way or the highway. Trust me, trust Pambondie, trust Cash Patel,
trust Badan Bongino on faith. And look at the conclusions

(30:27):
they're asking us to accept. You know, he's not coming
out and saying, listen, they tampered with the files. I
don't want to say anything more. What they've come out
and said is it was a suicide. Don't question. There
was no client list, don't question, there was nobody blackmailed,
which we know is a lie. Don't question, and everybody

(30:49):
there's going to be no investigations, no one's going to jail,
and don't question. And then it's, well, can't you just
release the files? Well, now I don't want your support. Now,
I'm sorry, you're you're stupid, You're a weakling, and I
don't want your support. So it's just now he's at

(31:11):
war with his own base. And so look now he's
lashing out and disowning millions of his supporters. Now it's
his right. I mean, I've never seen it. I've never
seen anybody do this before. You know, Grace said to
me last night, she said, Jeff, this is almost equivalent

(31:32):
to Hillary Clinton and her deplorables comment. I said, no, no,
I said, it's not because Hillary Clinton was insulting the
voters of her opponent. But what Trump is now doing,
he's attacking his very own voters, or to be more accurate,
he's saying, I listen, you want to keep talking about

(31:54):
Epstein in the files. Don't support me, I don't want
your vote. Okay? Then how does this play out in
the midterms?

Speaker 4 (32:04):
How?

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah, by the way, you want to primary somebody, good luck.
If you're telling your supporters to go, you know, kiss off.
So you want to primary somebody, They're gonna stay home.
You want to keep keep winning and keep your you know,
prevent yourself from being impeached and the Democrats taking over Congress.
Good luck, they're gonna stay home. So even if you

(32:29):
accept everything that six o three says, and he may
be completely right, the way it's been handled, it has
it's it's a it's a disaster, and am I wrong?
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight.
Eric in rent thumb, Thanks for holding Eric, and welcome.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
Thank man. Hi, Eric, I just want to touch on
over one of the previous calls. Did to say too,
if there is no files or whatever, then why is
this Nashville sitting in prison for and that's what's death
and nobody can seem to answer. But the other thing
too is, you know, if I'm jd Vance and uh

(33:18):
whoever's looking at like twenty twenty eight here, I'm kind
of curious your perstructive on this too. How do you
play this with Trump to keep that to keep the
base happy, but at the same time, you don't want
to uh piss Trump off because you still gotta go
through the presidency with him. Like it's I don't know

(33:39):
what Trump is doing and I voted for him the
last three times and he's just completely turning me off
in a non sexual way. But I'm not exactly sure
what his angle is on this one at all. And
the last couple of things he's done, it's it's it
hasn't been America first, It's been the swamp first. So

(33:59):
I'm just scarious think about that too.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Well, look, Eric, I'm getting a lot of very good
texts and messages on Messenger, and this is from I'm
talking about messenger. Now for a second, people, I really
respect people. I have the highest respect for callers, you know, listeners,
and they're saying, look, Jeff, you know, I'm not happy
with the whole Epstein thing the way it's been handled.

(34:22):
But is this the hill we want to die on?
In terms of MAGA? And you know Trump and the
America First Movement, We've got rapists, we've got mass murderers,
we've got invaders that we have to deport from our country,
which I agree, We've got so much we need to
do on so many levels. I mean, we just begun
to get our work done and to save our country.

(34:44):
So are we willing now to die over this on
this hill? And I get that point, I do, but
I want to flip it because I think there's another
side to it. And I think this is the question
now Trump has to ask himself. Is this is Epstein
the hill you want to die on? Is this worth it?
Is it worth it now for you to be feuding

(35:07):
with at least millions, if not tens of millions of
your own voters? Is it worth it? What's in that
list that, for some reason is worth it that you're
willing to pay a tremendous political cost? You're I mean, look,
you're not calling Democrats stupid, You're not even calling Rhino stupid. Hell,

(35:30):
you're not even calling Republicans stupid. You're calling now your
own supporters and voters stupid, and you're calling them a
bunch of weaklings, and you're saying they're traders because they
just want the list, so you know, I mean, they're
not asking for I don't know what. And by the way,
you promised that you would release the list you ordered.

(35:51):
This was, you know, a couple months ago, whatever it
was you ordered the list to be released. Pam Bondi
said she wanted to release the list. Look, remember, I
don't want to, you know, go too much into the
weeds here, But Eric, do you remember I believe it
was February. Okay, it was either March or February, so
don't quote me. But it was early in Trump's presidency
a second term when he called all of these big

(36:13):
MAGA influencers, podcasters, talk show hosts, you know, social media influencers,
and they all came to the White House and they
were all given these huge binders about the Epstein files
Phase one. And it was Pam Bondi, Cash Patel that

(36:35):
we're giving it to them, like here, here's everything we
have on Epstein so far. You're going to get so
much more. And everybody was holding up these binders like Yeah,
we're starting to drain the swamp. Yeah, we're getting real accountability,
real transparency. Trump green lighted that, Bondie green lighted that,
Cash Ptel greenlighted that. I'm just stating the obvious. So now,

(37:02):
all of a sudden, shut up, don't ask, don't tell,
don't say a word. Just move on. And if you
ask for the files, if you ask for Phase two
or Phase three, because they were promising much more was
going to come out and that they were going to
release all of it. Now you're a trader, and I
don't want your support. So what's happened? That's what I

(37:26):
want to know. What happened in the last three or
four months. So look, everybody is speculating. Is he protecting friends?
Are some of his donors involved, our family members involved?
Is that scenario that's six ZHO three laid out? No,
they corrupted everything, they compromised everything. No, now it's a trick.

(37:49):
Now it's a trap. Okay, whatever it is, it's not
worth it. It's at this point is it worth it? I
don't think it's worth it. So and again I go
back to what I said last week, and I still
stand by that. When they announced in that memo that

(38:10):
they were not going to release any more information and
that there were going to be no other investigations, no prosecutions,
no one's going to jail. Case closed. You're gonna be
asked that question at the cabinet meeting. You had an
open cabinet meeting. It's gonna come up. It's inevitable. Let

(38:30):
Pam Bondie, Let doorknob answer the question. Just you have
a layer of separation. The question is asked, you go, okay, Yeah,
that was Pam Bondie. She wrote the memo along with
Cash and Dan Bongino. Pam, you want to speak to
that please, But instead, what did he do? He's the

(38:52):
one that interjected himself directly, I'm just stating a fact
and said you're still going on about that? Who the
hell goes on about Yeah, the guy's been dead for years.
This is a non issue. And then remember he said,
this is a desecration of the dead girls in Texas
in the flooding. How dare you like you should be
ashamed to even asked the question? Now think about it,

(39:14):
You're like, well, hold on, you told us all this
information was going to come out. You have the binders,
you had this big event at the White House. She
said the files were on her desk, she was reviewing them,
and now all of a sudden, you tell us case
closed and we're not even supposed to ask a question.
That's when everybody said there's something wrong here. So by

(39:38):
him directly interjecting himself, that's when everybody's antenna went up.
That's when they said, no, no, no, no, this is
highly unusual what's going on here. And now it's just
getting worse and worse and worse. So the question I
have for President Trump is is this the hill you
want to die on? I don't mean, look, he's gonna

(40:00):
serve out his term. He's still president. He's a brilliant president.
He's an effective president. But now you're gonna if you're
telling your voters to stay home, you're gonna get your
You're gonna get your rear end handed to you at
the midterms. I mean, if you're telling your people don't vote,
don't vote for me, well they're not gonna. I'll tell

(40:21):
you this. Look, I'm gonna vote for the guy. I'm
going out in the midterms. I wanted to urge everybody
to vote in the midterms, but there's gonna be a
lot of people out there, Like Steve Bannon said, Hey,
if just ten percent of Trump's base doesn't show up,
just ten percent, the Democrats win thirty to forty seats
in the House, they start impeaching on day one. What

(40:45):
are we doing then? For the second half of his
second term, he's playing defense and he's just gonna be
fighting off impeachment after impeachment, investigation after investigation. So respect
your voters, talk to them if there's a legitimate reason,
tell them why hold a press conference? And in the end,

(41:09):
ask yourself, is this really worth all this political damage?
And now it's self inflicted? So I don't understand what's
going on. Everybody scratching their head, everybody, and it's a mess.
Now it's a mess. Now. What I'm hoping is because

(41:31):
Trump did say and I'm don't play the cut, eric,
and I'm gonna get your reaction. This was Trump was
then pressed because then he said, Okay, look, I don't
want to talk about this anymore. Go to Pam Bondy.
You have any more questions about this, I'm done, go
to the Attorney General. Then a reporter says, well, what
if Pam Bondy decides to release the files on her own.

(41:55):
Are you going to be happy with that? Well, listen
now to this. Here's another curveball roll cut three. Mike.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
You know, whatever's credible she can release. If a document
is credible, if a document's there that is credible, she
can release. I think it's I think it's good, but
it's just really it's just a subject. He's dead, he's gone,
and all it is is the Republicans. Certain Republicans got
duped by the Democrats, and they're following a Democrat playbook

(42:36):
and no different than Russia, Russia Russian all the other
hoaxes they're they're started by the Democrats and some Republicans
in this case. I was surprised, but they got duped.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Eric. Now he says, Okay, if the documents are credible,
in other words, they haven't been compromised or corrupted, she
can release them. So I'm not I'm like, so what
are we what are we arguing about?

Speaker 4 (43:04):
Now?

Speaker 1 (43:06):
I mean, so if she can release some those that
haven't been corrupted are compromised, then what so you do
you want to support?

Speaker 6 (43:14):
Now?

Speaker 1 (43:16):
What I'm saying, Eric is he's now even saying he's
willing to just say, okay, release the files. So what's
the point of all this. Look, I believe in a
very firm policy. This is the way I've led my life.
This is the way I lead everything I do, and
it's never failed me wrong, And it sounds corny, but

(43:38):
I'm telling you it's true. The truth shall set you free.
Just walk in the light, speak the truth, release the truth.
Let the chips fall where they may. What is morally
wrong can never be politically right, ever, ever, ever, ever,

(43:59):
So he didn't cover up Epstein. Obama covered up Epstein.
Joe Biden covered up Epstein. This has been going on
for twenty years. They covered up for this man. Epstein
was a very prominent Democrat. He was a huge Democrat donor.
Most of the people who flew to Epstein. It's an

(44:21):
open I mean, this is open source material from Bill
Clinton to Bill Gates to Prince Andrew. I can go
on and on. Okay, you want names, Barack Hussein Obama,
I could go on. Leading directors in Hollywood's sorry, leading
directors and actors in Hollywood, Big lefties, big democrats. Why

(44:47):
would you want to defend all these powerful democrats? This
has been known, This is public knowledge for the last
twenty some years. So it's not his scandal. He's not
covering up Epstein, Obama, did Biden? Did call me? Did Brennan?
Did this idea? Now this is somehow a hoax created
by them. I'm like, I don't know what these people

(45:08):
are talking about. We've been asking for this now for
ten fifteen years to release the files. So just release
them and let the chips fall where they may. And
if some people are, you know, falsely accused or whatever,
well they'll be able to defend themselves. We can separate

(45:28):
truth from fiction. We've done it for everything else, we
can do it for this. There's something there he doesn't
want released. I don't know what that is, but it's
clear there's something there that he doesn't want to see
the light of day. Eric final word to you, Oh.

Speaker 5 (45:51):
I agree with you something there's something there that he
doesn't want released. But you know to say this too,
it's his name is on it. Just say just just
shooting me for a second. You would have heard about
that when he ran the first time you had heard
about during the presidency. You would you know you had

(46:13):
heard about it during when he was running. Is By
and so it's it's whatever's on there. Just doesn't make
sense what he's covering up, because if it's like he said,
if it's his name, that would have been out in
the open, yes, and that would be used against him,
no questions.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
No question And Epstein said it a hundreds of times.
He's not on the list, he's I have nothing on him,
Epstein said it his lawyer. Epstein's lawyer said, because I
pressed them, and I pressed them, and I pressed them.
I said, this is our ticket. We got to do this.
Come on, what do you have? Because I got nothing.
So it's not Trump. He's not protecting himself. I don't know.

(46:50):
If it's a family member, I don't know. I mean,
I'm just I can All I can do is speculate.
I don't know. If it's friends, powerful donors, family member,
I don't know. I don't know. Or he's using this
as a way as a cudgel to go after certain
people so that he can get his agenda passed. You know,
in other words, you blackmailed the blackmailers because now you

(47:13):
have their compremand as the Russians put it, there, their
compromised information and pictures and videos, and say, ye you
better play ball unless you don't want this to go
to the public. So it could be that, it could
be a million things, but I think it's clear he
doesn't want there's something there he doesn't want released. I
can't read the evidence any other way, Eric, Thank you

(47:37):
for that call. Dave in Boston. Thanks for holding Dave,
and welcome. Thanks for having me on Jeff My pleasure. Dave.
What do you make of all this?

Speaker 4 (47:49):
Ah?

Speaker 6 (47:49):
This is so Orwellian. So he wants us to forget
everything we've seen with our eyes, heard with our ears,
forget the two thousand flight logs that the FA And
now you got this guy Lutkin that's hanging around Trump,
who was Epstein's neighbor for twenty three years. Now we

(48:10):
have this guy hanging around Trump, Lutkin in the shadows,
probably telling Trump what to say. Do you think I
can with a CEO of Home Depot says, My groceries
are the same, my gas is the same, my interest
rates are the same. I don't care if the country
has to burn down for this list to come out.
Let the list come out. We should not be protecting
these people, That's all I have to say. This runs

(48:31):
really deep there's a lot of players in this game.
It's all dirty. They're all dirty, Dave.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Thirty seconds before the break, Trump says, someone like you
voted for him, wants these files released. He says, I
don't want your support. What's your answer?

Speaker 5 (48:49):
I'm I.

Speaker 6 (48:50):
You know, he's gonna do something if he's not going
to release this list. He's gotta make these groceries and
gases cheaper. But yeah, ibost I voted for Trump, and
my support is really really, you know, disappearing the more
I'm finding out about these this lukin guy, these players
in this game. You're gonna have all these social influences
come out and oh yeah, there's make this big deal

(49:12):
and then like like oh, well said, make everybody forget
about it, like it never even happened, like what you've
seen with your eyes.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Wait, yeah, now it's getting to the point. Are you
gonna believe your lying eyes