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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Boston's Bulldozer never sleeps The Kooner Report weekend edition on
the Voice of Boston WRKO.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Joining me now as she always does at this time,
my better half, my wonderful wife, doctor Grace, putting liberals
in their place, Grace vuoto Grace. I've got to ask you,
as a loving mother, as a loving parent, with our
two wonderful kids, Ashton and Eva, what do you make
now of this very high profile, very important Supreme Court
(00:31):
case Mahmoud v. Taylor. Should parents have the right to
opt their young children out from LGBTQ storybook lessons and
transgender propaganda?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
What say you, well, Jeff, they absolutely should have that right.
These books were being introduced in an English class, and
I read the descriptions of the book. On the side surface,
they seem very benign. But the point is to normalize
all kinds of behaviors that people of different faiths would
(01:10):
find objectionable. And the point is to introduce it at
an early age so that children think it is all
a legitimate lifestyle choice, and that would go contrary to
the religious values that some parents are trying to instill.
So I think it is a matter of basic religious liberty,
(01:31):
and I think that the Court will see it that way.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Grace. Do you think that this should even be taught
to young children? I mean, I agree with you. I
think the Supreme Court is going to uphold the parents's
right to opt out. I think it's pretty clear from
the line of questioning. But even beyond the opt out,
you know, option, should transgenderism, same sex marriage, prone, all
(02:01):
of it? Should this be being Should this be taught
or should it be you know, should they continue to
teach this? Should they peddle this to our children in
elementary school, middle or high school? What say you?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I don't think they should teach it at all. And
as somebody that's trying so hard to instill religious values
in the children, I realize, you know, when you think
about it, they're teaching all of these concepts. Do they
ever teach a word like chastity? Like you and I,
as Christians, we have a certain set of values which
(02:37):
includes the celebration of chastity. They never include that kind
of word, right, So it's not just it's not fair
how they phrase the topic. They say, well, it's about education. No,
it's not about education. It's about trying to encourage children
to choose a certain lifestyle and making all lifestyle choices
(02:59):
appear equally valid, which goes contrary to what is being
taught in religious homes. They are not equally valid. I'm
saying to the extent that what I'm trying to teach
my children is even when we're talking about let's discuss
purely heterosexual behavior, I am very strict about some things
that other families might be okay with. For example, I
(03:21):
don't want my children to live together before marriage. That's
an example, right. These are values that every family has
the right to instill in their children without the pressure
of the kids thinking that the parents are going contrary
to the norms of their generation. Do you know that
the children will always say to parents, yes, that was
(03:44):
your generation, and you have to fight through that and
teach them that No. These are eternal values that are
taught in each generation, but when they're introduced in the schools,
it's even more difficult to convince them that you're on
the side of the angels.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Should the schools have any role in sex education or
in going on about your identity, whether it be your
sexual identity or you know who you want to love,
who you want to marry whatever just happened to reading, writing, math, science,
(04:21):
Call me crazy, maybe a little bit of civics and
the Constitution? Have you noticed they teach everything but what
the kids need to teach. Am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
You know what I'm seeing, Jeff, that there's a long
term consequence to this early sexualization of our children, whether
it's in the schools and the exposure they're getting on
the internet, it's leading to young boys who can't function,
especially young boys. If you notice there's more and more
stories that we're hearing about college kids not being able
(04:57):
to finish their college degrees or just want just drifting.
I think there's a connection between this early sexualization and
the lack of drive, the lack of ambition, the lack
of motivation, the lack of leadership. I think it's all related.
I think it's extremely disruptive, and I think we have
to take a very firm stand against it. I don't
(05:18):
believe we fully grasp the consequences of this instruction at
an early age. We fully don't grasp the whole picture
just yet.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
What do you think the ultimate goal is? What is
it that the left wants? Why you know they're fighting
these parents tooth and nail. You know, they even promised
initially the parents you could opt out from these LGBTQ
story book lessons and the transgenderism that they were teaching
to the students, to these young children in grades one,
(05:50):
grade two, grade three. And then they said, no, it's
you got it. No your child, it's mandated, your child
has to come. If you don't like it, take your
child out of school, homeschool or send them to a
private school. What is their ultimate goal? Why are they,
for some reason, this is the hill now they want
(06:10):
to die on.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Why is to invalidate the religious beliefs of all the
major world religions. Because the major world religions have a
strict moral code. This is right and that's wrong. That
means that if you actually believe in that moral code,
you're passing judgment on the lifestyle of others. That's inevitable.
(06:33):
You're saying, nah, that lifestyle is sinful. But what they
want to do from an early age is invalidate the
concept of sin itself, invalidate the idea that there is
a right and wrong when it comes to sexual behavior.
And you know, the very sad thing is, you know
what I've started to tell my children. You know, my
prayer for you, I don't want to even hear about
(06:54):
this sexual identity garbage. My prayer for you is I
want you to find true love. Think about that. That's
really the goal that we should have for all our children,
that they find true love. But this is an obsession
I think takes them far from that.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
We were in the car, what was it a week
ago or two weeks ago? I forget now, we went
to the movies as a family, and then Ashton met
a friend of his or I guess it was. You know,
it was a she. And but this she insists on
being called a he, even though, as I said, you
take a look at her, and she's definitely a she,
(07:36):
There's no question about it. And remember in the car
when we said, no, she is a she and a
he is a he. And do you remember what Ashton
Nava told us. I couldn't believe it, that this is
the twenty first century and that you and I are
old fashioned, and that if people want to identify as
(07:57):
a she or a he, who are we to say? No?
You remember that, sweetheart?
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Yeah? And then I said, Ashton, for God's sake, her
boobs are bigger than mine. I actually started to laugh.
So sometimes you know what humor and the common sense
answer breaks through all that.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
That's that's the best response. But I was just thinking, boy,
I mean, I mean, you know, I mean, and we
sent our kids what to Christian school until what they
were in the sixth grade or whatever. It was actually
just a couple of years in public school. And look
how they're talking.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah, And the conversation started saying, hey, Ashton, you know
we met your friends. She's pretty, she's really grown. This
is how I started. She's grown since the last time
I saw her.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
And he's saying she did.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
It's a he mo mom. I'm like, what, she's beautiful,
she's cute. I like her hair.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
And then they went on, I'm like, what, some booms
are bigger than mine.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
No, I mean she had her hair, was quaffed, she
had makeup. She looked an old woman to me, let's
just put it that way to.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Anybody with eyes up, anybody with eyes All.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Right, Grace, we've got one minute left. Let me ask you,
do you think this case is going to reverberate and
do you think it's going to lead to massive changes
in education and parental rights around the country.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I think it is. It's going to have huge consequences,
and I think it's going to embolden parents to take
more and more and more action. And I want to
end with this small story if I have time. One day,
Ashton was not feeling well and didn't go to school.
Then I got a call from the school counselor asking me, Hey,
did your son not come in because we're starting sex education.
(09:55):
I said no, he wasn't feeling well. Well, why, I said,
do the children don't want They don't want sex education?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I thought yeah, And the answer was many of them
actually skip class. They don't Apparently they're uncomfortable. So even
even a lot of the kids don't like it. Grace,
we're up against it. I'm sorry I had to cut
you off there, but as always, dynamite stuff. We'll see
you again, same time, same place, next week if Jeff doesn't.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Get a day off. This request came from his wife.
The Kooner Report weekend edition on the Boys of Boston
WRKO
Boston's Bulldozer never sleeps The Kooner Report weekend edition on
the Voice of Boston WRKO.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Joining me now as she always does at this time,
my better half, my wonderful wife, doctor Grace, putting liberals
in their place, Grace vuoto Grace. I've got to ask you,
as a loving mother, as a loving parent, with our
two wonderful kids, Ashton and Eva, what do you make
now of this very high profile, very important Supreme Court
(00:31):
case Mahmoud v. Taylor. Should parents have the right to
opt their young children out from LGBTQ storybook lessons and
transgender propaganda?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
What say you, well, Jeff, they absolutely should have that right.
These books were being introduced in an English class, and
I read the descriptions of the book. On the side surface,
they seem very benign. But the point is to normalize
all kinds of behaviors that people of different faiths would
(01:10):
find objectionable. And the point is to introduce it at
an early age so that children think it is all
a legitimate lifestyle choice, and that would go contrary to
the religious values that some parents are trying to instill.
So I think it is a matter of basic religious liberty,
(01:31):
and I think that the Court will see it that way.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Grace. Do you think that this should even be taught
to young children? I mean, I agree with you. I
think the Supreme Court is going to uphold the parents's
right to opt out. I think it's pretty clear from
the line of questioning. But even beyond the opt out,
you know, option, should transgenderism, same sex marriage, prone, all
(02:01):
of it? Should this be being Should this be taught
or should it be you know, should they continue to
teach this? Should they peddle this to our children in
elementary school, middle or high school? What say you?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I don't think they should teach it at all. And
as somebody that's trying so hard to instill religious values
in the children, I realize, you know, when you think
about it, they're teaching all of these concepts. Do they
ever teach a word like chastity? Like you and I,
as Christians, we have a certain set of values which
(02:37):
includes the celebration of chastity. They never include that kind
of word, right, So it's not just it's not fair
how they phrase the topic. They say, well, it's about education. No,
it's not about education. It's about trying to encourage children
to choose a certain lifestyle and making all lifestyle choices
(02:59):
appear equally valid, which goes contrary to what is being
taught in religious homes. They are not equally valid. I'm
saying to the extent that what I'm trying to teach
my children is even when we're talking about let's discuss
purely heterosexual behavior, I am very strict about some things
that other families might be okay with. For example, I
(03:21):
don't want my children to live together before marriage. That's
an example, right. These are values that every family has
the right to instill in their children without the pressure
of the kids thinking that the parents are going contrary
to the norms of their generation. Do you know that
the children will always say to parents, yes, that was
(03:44):
your generation, and you have to fight through that and
teach them that No. These are eternal values that are
taught in each generation, but when they're introduced in the schools,
it's even more difficult to convince them that you're on
the side of the angels.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Should the schools have any role in sex education or
in going on about your identity, whether it be your
sexual identity or you know who you want to love,
who you want to marry whatever just happened to reading, writing, math, science,
(04:21):
Call me crazy, maybe a little bit of civics and
the Constitution? Have you noticed they teach everything but what
the kids need to teach. Am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
You know what I'm seeing, Jeff, that there's a long
term consequence to this early sexualization of our children, whether
it's in the schools and the exposure they're getting on
the internet, it's leading to young boys who can't function,
especially young boys. If you notice there's more and more
stories that we're hearing about college kids not being able
(04:57):
to finish their college degrees or just want just drifting.
I think there's a connection between this early sexualization and
the lack of drive, the lack of ambition, the lack
of motivation, the lack of leadership. I think it's all related.
I think it's extremely disruptive, and I think we have
to take a very firm stand against it. I don't
(05:18):
believe we fully grasp the consequences of this instruction at
an early age. We fully don't grasp the whole picture
just yet.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
What do you think the ultimate goal is? What is
it that the left wants? Why you know they're fighting
these parents tooth and nail. You know, they even promised
initially the parents you could opt out from these LGBTQ
story book lessons and the transgenderism that they were teaching
to the students, to these young children in grades one,
(05:50):
grade two, grade three. And then they said, no, it's
you got it. No your child, it's mandated, your child
has to come. If you don't like it, take your
child out of school, homeschool or send them to a
private school. What is their ultimate goal? Why are they,
for some reason, this is the hill now they want
(06:10):
to die on.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Why is to invalidate the religious beliefs of all the
major world religions. Because the major world religions have a
strict moral code. This is right and that's wrong. That
means that if you actually believe in that moral code,
you're passing judgment on the lifestyle of others. That's inevitable.
(06:33):
You're saying, nah, that lifestyle is sinful. But what they
want to do from an early age is invalidate the
concept of sin itself, invalidate the idea that there is
a right and wrong when it comes to sexual behavior.
And you know, the very sad thing is, you know
what I've started to tell my children. You know, my
prayer for you, I don't want to even hear about
(06:54):
this sexual identity garbage. My prayer for you is I
want you to find true love. Think about that. That's
really the goal that we should have for all our children,
that they find true love. But this is an obsession
I think takes them far from that.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
We were in the car, what was it a week
ago or two weeks ago? I forget now, we went
to the movies as a family, and then Ashton met
a friend of his or I guess it was. You know,
it was a she. And but this she insists on
being called a he, even though, as I said, you
take a look at her, and she's definitely a she,
(07:36):
There's no question about it. And remember in the car
when we said, no, she is a she and a
he is a he. And do you remember what Ashton
Nava told us. I couldn't believe it, that this is
the twenty first century and that you and I are
old fashioned, and that if people want to identify as
(07:57):
a she or a he, who are we to say? No?
You remember that, sweetheart?
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Yeah? And then I said, Ashton, for God's sake, her
boobs are bigger than mine. I actually started to laugh.
So sometimes you know what humor and the common sense
answer breaks through all that.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
That's that's the best response. But I was just thinking, boy,
I mean, I mean, you know, I mean, and we
sent our kids what to Christian school until what they
were in the sixth grade or whatever. It was actually
just a couple of years in public school. And look
how they're talking.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah, And the conversation started saying, hey, Ashton, you know
we met your friends. She's pretty, she's really grown. This
is how I started. She's grown since the last time
I saw her.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
And he's saying she did.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
It's a he mo mom. I'm like, what, she's beautiful,
she's cute. I like her hair.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
And then they went on, I'm like, what, some booms
are bigger than mine.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
No, I mean she had her hair, was quaffed, she
had makeup. She looked an old woman to me, let's
just put it that way to.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Anybody with eyes up, anybody with eyes All.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Right, Grace, we've got one minute left. Let me ask you,
do you think this case is going to reverberate and
do you think it's going to lead to massive changes
in education and parental rights around the country.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I think it is. It's going to have huge consequences,
and I think it's going to embolden parents to take
more and more and more action. And I want to
end with this small story if I have time. One day,
Ashton was not feeling well and didn't go to school.
Then I got a call from the school counselor asking me, Hey,
did your son not come in because we're starting sex education.
(09:55):
I said no, he wasn't feeling well. Well, why, I said,
do the children don't want They don't want sex education?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I thought yeah, And the answer was many of them
actually skip class. They don't Apparently they're uncomfortable. So even
even a lot of the kids don't like it. Grace,
we're up against it. I'm sorry I had to cut
you off there, but as always, dynamite stuff. We'll see
you again, same time, same place, next week if Jeff doesn't.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Get a day off. This request came from his wife.
The Kooner Report weekend edition on the Boys of Boston
WRKO
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