The Shutdown Commences

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Cooner country. Okay, my friends, here we are
at midnight, well actually twelve oh one this morning to
be more, to be accurate, so about maybe six hours ago.
The federal government now has for the most part shut down.

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And this is a shutdown that could have been easily averted.
This did not have to take place. This is a
shutdown that the Democrats have wanted, the Democrats demanded, and
the Democrats voted for. They want this shutdown, and this

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is now the price that the country is paying because
of the radical left which has now taken over the
Democratic Party. Their base wants opposition, the resistance to Donald Trump,
and they want to smack him in the face. They
want to try to burn his administration to the ground.

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They want to oppose him for the sake of opposing him.
They don't want to give him anything when it comes
to funding the government. And so they pushed Schumer, they
pushed takeem Jeffries, they pushed Nancy Pelosi, they pushed the
grand poohbas of the Democratic Party, who privately admit there

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is no exit ramp out of this, who privately know
they are probably making a massive political mistake. But it
doesn't matter because Schumer and Jeffries in theory may be
the titular heads of their party. Yes, in theory, they
may be the minority leader in the House and the

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minority leader in the Senate. But this is not their
party anymore. Everybody knows it. This is now a party
Alexandria Ocasio Cortes, This is now Zoron Mamdani's party, This
is now Bernie Sanders' party, This is now Elanomharer's party.

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And they want scorched earth against Trump. They want a shutdown,
and they believe that heading into the midterm elections, this
is now their fundamental strategic calculation. To me, it is
a miscalculation, but for them, this is now their fundamental assumption.
They believe that on healthcare that they have the winning hand,

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that on the healthcare issue, that this is the issue
that they believe they have an advantage over Republicans, an
advantage over Trump, and that it pops and resonates with voters.
And so this is why they have pulled the health
care issue out and made it now the centerpiece of

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their pretext, their supposed justification to shut the government down,
and at the heart of their healthcare spending package is.
They want to increase healthcare spending by one point five
trillion dollars. They want to extend massive subsidies for Obamacare.

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They want to give illegal aliens free ie taxpayer paid healthcare,
hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars. And as I
talked about yesterday, they want to provide free gender reassignment surgery,
sex change operations, transgender surgeries to minors and children who

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may think they're a girl and want to become a boy,
or they're a male they want to transition to a female.
They want all of this paid for by you, me
and the taxpayer. This shutdown, as far as I'm concerned,
is already a massive defeat for the Democrats, and yesterday

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at the steps of the House of Representatives, Mad Maxine
Waters effectively gave the whole ballgame away. In an interview
with media outlets, she said the quiet part out loud,
that this shutdown was fundamentally at its core about giving

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illegal aliens free healthcare, to put them on Medicaid, to
give them free welfare benefits, to take care of every
single illegal alien on our dime, the taxpayer's dime, as

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I said on X and I want to repeat it.
They're not even hiding anymore their contempt for America and
for us, the US taxpayer. And so President Trump now
believes he's holding all the cards that the Democrats are

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going to be blamed for this shutdown, that they're going
to own this shutdown, which I believe they do. And
Trump now says we're going on offense. And so as
the Democrats voted down the last chance to keep the
government open, it was was called a clean Continuing Resolution

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a CR, which would fund the government. Remember at Biden
spending levels. We're not talking about any cuts whatsoever. These
are spending levels that Biden wants, the Democrats supported, the
Democrats voted for four years ago, and we've been operating

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off of this now for four years. It would have
extended the government for another seven weeks, and during those
seven weeks, Republicans and Democrats could then negotiate in a
bipartisan fashion all of these appropriations bills, including whether there

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should be more spending on Obamacare subsidies or other healthcare
related issues. But as JD. Vance powerfully said it, John
Thune repeated it yesterday. House Speaker Mike Johnson, President Trump,
We're not going to negotiate with a bunch of hostage
takers who are holding the metaphorical gun to our head.

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Pass a one point five trillion dollar monstrosity within three hours,
or we shut the government down. That's not how you
run a country. That's not how you run a budget.
That's not how you pass a massive spending package. And
so they have called Schumer's bluff The New York Times. Now,

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remember this is just on the eve of the shutdown.
It's gonna get worse. It's gonna get worse when people
start start not getting paid the government bureaucrats, when they
don't when they start missing paychecks, and when basic services
are no longer being provided, and when you see this

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shutdown begin to really bite and really take effect. These
numbers already bad for Democrats, are gonna get infinitely worse.
The New York Times, the most pro Democrat paper in
the country, with the exception maybe of the Boston Globe,

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came out with their poll showing that sixty five percent
of Americans A do not want a shutdown. B blame
the Democrats for this shutdown. Sixty percent or fifty nine
to be more accurate, Nearly sixty percent of independence don't

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want a shutdown, and they blame Democrats. Even forty three
percent of Democrats, over forty percent of Democrats do not
want a government shutdown, and they blame Schumer and Jeffries

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and the Democrats for this government shutdown. I want you
to listen now to President Trump. He was asked yesterday,
are you worried about a shutdown? Are you trying to
avoid a shutdown? What do you think the consequences of
the shutdown will be? Listen now to President Trump saying,

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we are not gonna bend. I'm not giving free health
care to illegal aliens. No way. This is our red
line and we're not gonna let anyone cross it. But
then he warned the Democrats, remember when you shut the
government down. We're not just talking now about temporary furloughs

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as there used to be in the past, where people,
government workers, bureaucrats get laid off and it's basically a
prolonged vacation. They're out for three weeks, four weeks, five weeks.
Then they're all brought back to their jobs and they're
all given back pay. So all those three four or
five weeks, yes they weren't paid, but then they're paid

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when they come back, because they get a couple of
big fat checks in their bank account to make up
for the fact that they weren't paid for the previous month.
He said, no, no, no, no. I've instructed my budget director,
Ross Ross Russ Vote. He has given orders to every
federal agency draw up a list of so called unnecessary

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personnel people that you can do without, and we're gonna
fire him. We're not just gonna temporarily lay them off.
We're gonna permanently lay them off because now we're going
to extend DOGE. We're gonna use this opening because we
can legally do it, to extend DOGE and get rid

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of all these bureaucratic parasites, all of this waste, fraud,
and abuse, many of whom are Democrat operatives within the
federal bureaucracy that do everything in their power to always
try to paralyze or subvert or undermine a Republican administration.
Now we're gonna take this opportunity and we're going to

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fire them all. Six one seven two six six sixty
eight sixty eight is the number, am I the only
one I really would like to take the temperature of
Cooner Country and and get a sense of what many
of you are thinking. I don't mind this shutdown. I
mean I think it's disgusting. Please don't get me wrong. Uh,

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you know, I can't stand the fact that you know
you're going to have people aren't going to get paid.
I mean just that you know, some basic services now
are not going to be rendered at least for a while.
So yeah, I think it's horrible. I don't think it's
a good look for our country. But part of me
is like, Okay, if the Democrats want to commit political suicide,

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if you're that determined, you know, it's like, don't jump. Well,
if you really want to insist on jumping off the ledge, okay,
I don't want to stand in your way jump Like
that's part of this. And I look at this and
I'm like, Okay, you asked for it, you wanted it,
you got it. Listen now to President Trump talking to

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reporters and saying, look, number one, we're not going to
give free healthcare to illegal aliens. They're on drugs. So
and you're gonna shut the government down over that issue,
and you think you're gonna win. And number two, we're
now going to go on offense a lot of bureaucrats

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are going to be permanently laid off. We are going
to fire them in agency after agency. These are these
unnecessary parasites, as I call them. These are these unnecessary
deep state Democrat bureaucrats and operatives. You want to talk
about rooting out waste, fraud, and abuse, That's exactly what

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we're gonna do in agency after agency program. In fact,
as I speak to you, now, listen to this. That's
why part of this I'm like, keep it going. Really,
part of it is like, yeah, this is good, really,
this is good. A The Democrats already are underwater in

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the polls, that's number one, so politically they're already paying
a price. But apparently now one hundred thousand federal bureaucrats,
one hundred thousand now plan to resign today en masse
in protest of Trump, in protest of him not wanting

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to support this massive healthcare package, this one point five
trillion dollars in extra spending that the Democrats are pushing,
and angry that Trump now wants even more permanent layoffs
if there is a government shutdown. So already one hundred
thousand are saying we're gonna leave. That's one hundred thousand. Now,

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I'm telling you you can hold me to this. The
one hundred thousand that tender their resignations today, nobody will
feel it at all. That is to me, what the
most incredible part of all of this. It's like what
Doge exposed. They're laying people off, firing people left, right

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and center, and like, we don't feel it at all.
You want to talk about absolute dead weight. You want
to talk about eating up our money and wasting our money.
And just very quickly before I pay that play the
Trump cut. Look, I remember I had a friend in Washington, DC.
I mean he was open about it. He was one

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of these federal you know, basically permanent civil servants. He
had a six figure salary, by the way, gold plated
healthcare plan. And this guy bragged every time I met him.
He he goes, look, I'm telling you I don't do
anything all day. I'm like, well, you gotta do something.

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He's like, really, I watch movies, I read novels, I
go on sports websites. He goes, I don't do anything.
I'm paid to do nothing. And he says a lot
of my colleagues are the same. And what was. I
think it was a GS eleven. I think that's the term.
In other words, they rank you in terms of your

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seniority in the federal government. He retired retired with an
eighty thousand dollars a year, an eighty k pension a year,
And I remember thinking, how are we going to afford
this as a country, Like it's theft. This guy does nothing,

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and we're not just paying for his salary and his benefits,
but then we're paying for this outrageous pension for the
rest of his life. We're gonna go bankrupt.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Man.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
That's where my money is going. That's where our money
is going. So that's why I was always a huge
supporter of Doge, and I'm a big supporter of Trump.
When he says, oh, no, no, no, we're gonna lace
these people. They're not coming back like in the past.
No no, this is not gonna be a long vacation.
No no, this time, many of them are never coming back.

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Listen now to Trump telling Democrats you want to shut down,
We're gonna give you one roll, cut one Mike.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Stay of the Democrat Party when they have a thirty
three percent favorability rating on average in recent months, and
they're willing to shut down the government over our healthcare today.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Are shutting it down.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
We're not shutting it down. We don't want it to
shut down because we have the greatest period of time ever.
I tell you, we have seventeen trillion dollars being invested.
So last person that once they shut down is s now.
With that being said, we can do things during the
shutdown that are irreversible, that are bad for them and
irreversible by them, like cutting vast numbers of people out,

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cutting things that they like, cutting programs that they like.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
An amen, brother. That's why part of me is like, no,
keep it going. No.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
No.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
The longer disc goes on, the more people they can
let go, the more waste, fraud and abuse they can
they can they can root out, you can fire more
of these dead beats and parasites. Listen to Trump saying
they think I'm going to give free health care to illegals. Right,
they're on drugs up there in the Democratic Party. Roll

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cut one a mike.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
They take you a risk by having a shutdown because
because of the shutdown, we can do things medically and
other ways, including benefits. We can cut large numbers of
people we don't want to do that, but we don't
want fro waste and abuse.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
And you know what, cutting that good. I'm honestly, I'm happy.
I mean, I'm sorry. It's you know, the country should
never have a shutdown. Six one seven two six sixty
eight sixty eight is the number. Okay, listen now to
President Trump saying, if the Democrats want to shut the

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government down, hey, the American people will blame them. And
when the American people find out the real reason they're
shutting the government down, he goes, I'm telling you, their
wrath and fury is going to be felt for years
to come. Trump is convinced that this is going to

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cost the Democrats the midterms and further creater their poll
numbers with a public that already sees them as too radical,
too extreme, too anti American. Send now to President Trump,
roll cut one B, Mike.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
But they want to have illegal aliens come into our
country and get massive health care at the cost to
everybody else, and we don't have it. And that's that's
I would say the number one reason that they want
to strike is to get illegal immigrants healthcare. And you know,
Gavin Newsom wants that two in California and it's destroying California.
We can't have that.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
We're not gonna let it happen. So Trumps told Republicans,
absolutely not, this is a red line. Nowhere are we
crossing it. Absolutely not. We're not caving on this. They're
not going to get their one point five trillion. They're
not going to get their hundreds of billions of dollars
for free quote unquote free health care for illegals that

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we're all going to be paying for, and or transgender surgeries.
No way this and this shutdown can go on for
two weeks, four weeks, eight weeks, twelve weeks, twenty weeks.
Trump is now tolled Thoon and House Speaker Mini Mike
Mike Johnson get ready if the Democrats want to have

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this strike go on for months and months, this government
shutdown go ahead. We are not going to cave, not
this time. And so tell me if you agree or disagree.
It seems to me that Trump is now maneuvered Schumer
into the corner, and now Schumer has nowhere to go.

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This is like an albatross around his neck if he
continues with this strike week after week after week, this
shutdown their poll numbers are just going to get lower
and lower and lower. If he backs out of the
strike of the shutdown, then he sees as having lost
face and having capitulated to Trump, which opens him up

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now to even a further primary challenge from AOC. The way,
I don't care how you look at it, it's tails,
Republicans win, heads, Democrats lose. Agree, disagree. You've got Democrats
now whose poll numbers are already bad. You've got American

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people now at the New York Times poll at least
if you go by that says they don't want this
shutdown and they're blaming Democrats. You've got now more DOGE
cuts are going to be implemented in the wake of
this shutdown, giving Trump that opening he was looking for.
And you've got the Republicans now really exposing how much

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the Democratic Party supports illegal aliens and how much they
despise taxpayers and the United States. So for me, politically,
it's a loser for Democrats. Politically, it's a big win
for and you want to talk about scaling back the

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swamp and cutting back that massive federal leviathon, this is it.
The Democrats have given us a once in a generation opportunity,
let's take it. I'm honestly, I'm almost rooting now for
this thing to go on for months and months and months.
The longer it goes on, the more people we can fire,

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and we can really finally shrink the federal bureaucracy and
finally get rid of all of this waste, fraud, and abuse.
So to me, it's win win. Am I missing something?
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
lines are jammed? Larry in Arkansas? You're gonna kick us off, Larry,

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and thanks for holding and as.

Speaker 5 (22:52):
Usual, welcome morning, Jeff.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
This is gonna be a fun couple of days. The
Democrats have ever played their hands. They're getting too emotional.
They get emotional. Look at how Haqeen Jeffries is having
a meltdown because Trump posted an AI generated picture of
him in a sombrero and a Mexican mustache. Then they

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get both him and Schumer lose their minds when they
go into this meeting with Trump and they're Trump twenty
eight hats on the desk. You know, we always we
always refer to three D chess for Trump, and he
is he is beating them in the mental gymnastics.

Speaker 5 (23:38):
They just can't take it.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Well, Larry, let me ask you this, you even have
the need? Look when you have the New York Times,
the New York Times, and it's not just their poll,
it's even many of their journalists, their editorial writers, their
commentators are like, guys, what do you you guys crazy

(24:04):
like this? You're gonna get slaughtered, like you know from Larry,
because you're a military man. This is like, this is
not good ground. This is the worst ground possible that
you could pick this fight, Like, do you want to lose?
When you have even the New York Times questioning the
political sanity of the Democrats for wanting this shutdown? Now

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on this issue, I've got to ask you, Larry, why.
I mean, look, I don't like Schumer, I don't like
Hakeem Jeffries, I don't like Pelosi. But Schumer is not
a stupid man, you know Pelosi. I mean, look, the
woman stole what is it, four hundred million dollars, you know,
through insider trading and all this. She's not a stupid woman.
She's an evil woman, but she's not a stupid woman.

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So they can read polls, they know what many of
their own people are telling them, why, why would they
make this such a massive miscalculation?

Speaker 5 (25:02):
What say you, Larry, You're confusing stupid with desperate. Schumer
is desperate? Interesting is you know AOC is gunning for
his seat and she's going to win it. Sadly scary,
but she's going to take it from him. So he
has to go even further left than her to show

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the extreme left that he can be just a bigger
whack and do as her.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
As Presley, as a marr.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
You know, he's in a corner. He's this is his
when we say, you know, they were saying, this is
like his final play, his Hail Mary. This is his
final play Hail Mary on his career because he had
he doesn't know how to do anything else but be
a politician, and he's scared to death he's going to
lose his seat.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Larry, I don't want to put words in your mouth,
but are you saying that this man Schumer is so selfish,
so narcissistic, so self absorbed, so almost borderline sociopathic, that
he would cause a shutdown and the pain that this

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would inflict on the country, including knowing that many bureaucrats,
many civil servants, many government workers. Forget being temporarily laid off, furloughed,
Forget that many of them are going to be fired.
They're going to be permanently cut. They're going to be
permanently let go. So we're talking about you know, now,

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I think it's a good thing because you're you know,
you're getting rid of the fact. But what I'm saying is,
you know, still, these are people's jobs, they're their careers,
they have families, These have been loyal Democrats for decades.
These are what they call the Democrat apparatics. And he's
willing to inflict all of this pain on his own

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part party, on his own supporters, on the country, just
to try to salvage his political career. Is he that
selfish a man? I'm just curious.

Speaker 6 (27:12):
Larry looks at the history of the just the last
five years.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
To maintain power and status, he pushed the COVID lives,
he pushed the Russian hoax, He pushed open borders because
he knows his voters are now in a super minority
and they need to import more and more Democrat voters.

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Look that, you know, they've been telling us for years,
you're crazy. No illegals are registered, and they just had
a guy who has just arrested an illegal alien. Turns
out he was arrested in Iowa. But he's been a
registered voter Democrat, and I think Jersey for Jersey, Maryland.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Maryland, Maryland. Yeah, for ten years, for ten years, Larry
for ten years. He's been voting for ten years. Okay,
just very quickly, I want to go back to the
phone lines. But just judging from the text line seven
zero four seven zero, from the emails that are just
pouring into the cooner Man, and from many of the

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messages I'm getting on messenger, I mean, I don't want
to say all of you, that's I can never speak
for all of you, obviously, but a very good number
of you, I'm almost willing to say a good majority,
but definitely a lot of you. You like this shutdown.
You're a lot like the coooner Man. I mean, you

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don't want people to be hurt, obviously and lose their jobs.
And although yeah, we do want some people to lose
their jobs, but well, you know what I mean. We
don't want services shut down and programs to be temporarily
withheld from people who need them. But many of you
think this has been a long time coming. So this
is from Dave, our Western PA constitutionalist correspondent out in

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the Pittsburgh area, and here is what he messaged me. Jeff,
cut cut, cut, cut the federal government. Jeff, Jeff, I
love it. I love the shutdown, and with the Dems
taking the blame, it's even better. So you like the

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fact that there's going to be a lot of bureaucrats
were going to lose their jobs over this. Toxpayers are
going to save a ton of money, and a lot
of corruption and a lot of fraud is going to
be taken out of the federal government as Trump, you know,
fires people permanently, and the Democrats have made a huge
political mistake. So a lot of you are like, Jeff,

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this is a win win situation for us. Just keep
it going. Now. Let me just go one more and
then go back to the phone lines. This is from
mar and as usual, this stuff is very very good Jeff.
Good morning, well, good morning to you, buddy boy. Did
this backfire on the Democrats? Did they really think the

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majority of the American people were going to fall for
their bull crap yet again? Not this time. We're not stupid.
Your bluff got called. And also Maxine Waters pretty much
threw all these Democrats under the bus because once again
she was stupid enough to flap her gums and say

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the quiet part out loud. You just couldn't help yourselves. Well,
now you made your bed, now you sleep in it.

Speaker 7 (30:44):
Are democrats demanding health care for illegal aliens? That's right,
Democrats are demanding health care for everybody. We want to
save lives. We want to make sure that healthcare is
available to those who would die but having the help

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of their government.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
So you're good with the government shutdown, even if it
means giving health care to people who aren't Americans.

Speaker 7 (31:12):
Well, you keep that's what you're pushing on. What you're
trying to do is you're standing here and you're trying
to make me say that somehow we're gonna put non
citizens over Americans.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Quit it, stop it.

Speaker 7 (31:25):
This is the kind of journalism we don't need you have.
Divisive No, you're not you're being divisive. No, please, you
don't need to ask that question. You're just trying to
get controversy here. You're not gonna get it from me.
We want to save health care for all people.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Thank you, all people. Oh, we know who you really
want to save it for. But I mean, that's how
dumb she is. Yeah, you know, illegals and man, everybody,
everybody you know. Oh, we're not saying we're gonna put
illegals above Americans. We're just saying that, oh shit, got
health care. Don't don't beat divisive. You the most divisive

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person in the United States? Are you kidding me? Getting
their faces? Go to the restaurant, go to the gas stations.

Speaker 8 (32:11):
Go wherever they are.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Ye, scream out them, yah, yell at them your block.
You're obstructum. You remember that. Now they'll don't be divisive.
Come on now, she said the quiet part out loud

(32:33):
because she's so stupid she can't control herself. And Trump
now is gonna run wild. He already is. He's going
on about free I'm not giving free health care to illegals.
What are you nuts? So okay? And I'm telling you,
I'm telling you you already have forty three percent of

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Democrats forty three percent saying this shutdown disaster, and they're
blaming their own party, never mind two thirds of Americans.
And it's barely been six hours since they shut the
government down. If I'm the Republicans.

Speaker 9 (33:14):
Just keep that, just keep pounding this message over and
over again.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
We didn't want this shutdown. They wanted this shutdown. They
asked for it. Okay, okay, they wanted it. I don't
know what else to tell you. No, I'm sorry, we
not We're not going to give health care to be legals.
I'm We're just not free no no, sorry, no no,
not free transgender surgeries. No, no, We're just not gonna
do it. So you know, I'm sorry. No, that's it.

(33:43):
Just keep saying that over and over and over and
over and over again. And you got them. I mean
you got them.

Speaker 9 (33:51):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight agree, disagree.
Russ in Boston, thanks for holding Ross and welcome Jeff.

Speaker 6 (34:04):
Good morning. Look, let's face the reality of this. The
Democratic Communist Party wants to bankrupt this country without question.
Thank god, the majority of American people can see through
this for what it is. It's a scam, that's all.
It is, a scam. Jeff's humor is a coward. He's
getting in bed with jew Haades. Isn't that unbelievable. He's

(34:26):
a jewe and he's getting in bed with jew Hades unbelievable, Jeff.
Believe me. The bad news is the majority of mass
voters will remain useful idiots for the enemy within. And
there's no doubt about that. I don't have the pulse
for the other forty nined states, but I surely have
the pulse here in Massachusetts. I listen to these idiots
day in and day out, and believe me, Jeff, they

(34:48):
don't see the light here in Massachusetts. And we Trump
supporters believe in God, family, and country. The leaders of
the Democratic Communist Party, to them, God is dead, attack
the no love of country whatsoever. But Jeff, thanks to
President Trump and his great cabinet, we are getting our
country back long lived freedom of man in this great country.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Well, you know, I think, Russ to add to what
you're saying, because all I can do is add I think.
I don't want to compare it to the Charlie Kirk assassination.
Obviously a poor man was killed, murdered in cold blood.
But you know you sense the change. You just said
there's something changing in the country. We felt like we're

(35:34):
at a watershed moment. This feels the same in terms
of a change in the country. This shutdown the media
can sense it as well. The Democrats used to always
have the upper hand. Not anymore. The Democrats lies and
their spin machine used to work. Not anymore. You can

(35:57):
just tell that something has snapped in the American psyche.
Regarding the Democrats. The American people, we don't buy their bs.
I can't say it. We don't buy their bull crap anymore.
We just don't. And I think they picked the contrary
to what they think. They think healthcare is a winner

(36:19):
for them, They picked the worst issue to shut the
government down over. I would almost say any issue, but
this issue. When you're telling me that you want to
fight for hundreds of billions of dollars to give free
health care to Americans to illegal aliens while American citizens

(36:43):
can barely pay their bills, can barely take care of
their own health care, are struggling to get by, then
you're a political party that honestly has lost all touch
with reality. What we're watching now. You may think I'm wrong,
but we're watching now the death of one of the

(37:03):
great political parties in the United States. And I mean great,
not in a pot. I don't mean like, you know,
like virtuous or or good. What I mean by great
is They've been around since almost the beginning, in other words,
a long standing, historic party that you know, a lot
of presidents have been elected as Democrats. So this is

(37:24):
a you know, a very consequential party with very deep
roots in America. And the socialists, the communists, the Marxists,
the far left, whatever you want to call them, the
progressives whatever, have taken over this party and like everything
else they touch, they destroy, and they've they're now driving

(37:45):
it into the ground. By the way, the Democratic Party, now,
in the age of modern polling, I can just go
by modern polling, has never been more unpopular. I mean,
they're committing political hirikiri right in front of our eyes.

(38:06):
And that's why I'm telling you Trump can't believe his luck.
And then that's why he looks at Russ Vote, the
budget Director. Russ Vote looks at him, and he's like, Okay,
that's Russ. We only got so far with Doge. They're
giving us another chance. Let's go, let's finish it, let's
fire them all. Let's really clean out the swamp this time,

(38:31):
and the Democrats will be blamed for everything. So, uh,
you know, good. I don't know what else to tell him.
Good Russ, thank you very much for that call. I
really appreciate it. Six one seven two six six sixty eight,
sixty eight. Look, this is what I mean. Okay, let
me just the lines are jammed. I promise I'm gonna

(38:52):
go back to the phones. This is Schumer now, Shuck, Chuck,
you Schumer. Okay. On the Senate floor just before the
final vote where they blocked the Continuing Resolution, the Democrats
did so again. They voted not to fund the government.
So they are responsible for the shutdown, there's no question.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Now.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
He then cites this New York.

Speaker 9 (39:18):
Times poll because now you know, his own people are like,
have you seen this, Chuck, this is a this is
our bible.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
The New York Times is our bible. Look what they're saying.
Sixty five percent of Americans already are against the shutdown,
and they're blaming us. And even over forty percent of
our own voters are against us. So Schumer now has
to address it. He's so obviously lying that they begin

(39:46):
to laugh at him in the Senate. They're laughing at him.

Speaker 10 (39:52):
Roll cut three, Mike, Now, want to know the leader
is going to show a poll that says that that
Democrats will be blamed for the shutdown. There are many
more polls that show Republicans are blamed. The question in
that poll is biased. Biased in the New York Times.
But it's biased if you turn the court. That's true.

(40:19):
I don't always believe the New York Times.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
You can be sure that neither do you. Okay, okay,
all right, Chuck, Oh yeah, oh the New York Times.
Oh yeah, they're really biased against the Democrats. Oh yeah, Chuck.
It's a biased pole. That's like a you know, under

(40:44):
the Soviet Union, you know, you know, uh PA comes
out with a poll or is vestia.

Speaker 8 (40:49):
You know, the party is no longer popular. No, the
people he did not buying your bull crap. No more easy.
You got the problem of Vladimir. You know what, Dmitri,
you have big problem. Now le and Ed we have problem.
We big problem.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
No, no, Provda.

Speaker 9 (41:08):
He's a biased against the Communist Party's rest.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
You'll know them.

Speaker 9 (41:14):
They're always doing hit to pieces, hit piss on communists.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
I mean this is I mean, they're laughing at his face.
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight.
Deborah in Whitman, thanks for holding debor, and welcome.

Speaker 11 (41:36):
Telcod to talk to you. I'm a first term caller,
but my husband and I have listened to you seven
days a week since you came to Boston Radio.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Wow, we welcome, Deborah, You're among friends. Welcome, welcome everything.

Speaker 11 (41:50):
You're doing for us all. I just wanted to tell
you when you were talking earlier about, you know, the
probable likely non impact on everything that this shutdown will have.
I took a government job a few years back. I
lasted eleven months. I had come from the private sector

(42:10):
where we never had enough of anything for any one person.
You wore twenty different hats and you just got the
job done. I went to the government job, and we
now had twenty people to do one job. And I'm
totally serious. I had nothing to do all day long.
I kept going, you know, to my bosses and saying,

(42:34):
I need something to do. You know what should I
do next? I need something to do, and they just
kept saying to me, Oh, you have enough to do,
Oh You've got plenty on your plate. It was astounding.
I was really my I was going crazy, you know.
My all my brother in laws were saying to me,
what's wrong with you? You know, laugh all the way

(42:56):
to the bank.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
You know it's a dream, and I said, no, I
just can't do it.

Speaker 11 (43:00):
And just the last thing I wanted to say was,
you know, again, having come from a world where we
never had enough of anything, we may do. You know,
we would have one piece of equipment and share it
throughout the.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Whole building and move it around floor to floor.

Speaker 11 (43:15):
They took me to a warehouse. It was this vast, vast,
you know, expanse that I couldn't even see the end of,
and it was filled with extensive equipment, machinery, thousands of pieces.
I mean, it was like Candyland. I couldn't believe my eyes.
And I said, why is this stuff all year? Why
do we have all this and not use it? They

(43:37):
said to me, well, unfortunately, you know.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
It's all obsolete.

Speaker 11 (43:42):
We can't use it now, you can't buy parts for it.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
It's obsolete.

Speaker 11 (43:47):
There are upgrades to these types of equipment and so on,
and so it's just obsolete and not used and just wasteful.
These are the kind of people we have.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Running the GUP.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Unbelievable. Unbelievable, Deborah. I've got to ask you, and if
I'm getting too personal, please tell me. Because I had
a friend who lived in DC and very you know,
tell me exactly what you just told me. And after
a while he said, the same thing goes. Initially, I
kept one of my bosses, my superiors. I got nothing
to do, like, could you give me something to do?
Like I just don't want to thrill my thumbs all day.

(44:22):
And he did say I felt bad. I'm getting a
paycheck and I know the taxpayers are paying for my
paycheck and I'm not doing anything. Like I even said it.
I feel like I'm kind of stealing from them. And
the superiors were telling him, you got a lot to do.
In other words like wink wink, just just do nothing,
you know, like just come on, man, just sit in

(44:43):
your office and whatever. You know, do what you gotta do.
And he just after a while said okay. And you know,
he began to go on sport ESPN sports websites. He
started to watch movies, he began to read novels. He
He's it basically, they paid me to have a good time.

(45:03):
And I'm just curious, Debora, why didn't you say, you
know what, I'm going to catch up on my reading.
You know what, I'm going to catch up on my knitting.
You know, what. I don't know, the latest Netflix series.
You know what they say, it's very good. What the hell?
Let me sit in my office, close that door and
just get some popcorn and enjoy the whole afternoon watching Netflix,

(45:28):
your favorite drama or whatever. Why didn't you do that, Debora,
I'm just curious.

Speaker 11 (45:34):
Sounds good, but you know, I was. I was programmed
to work on. I was passionate about my work. I
wanted to make a difference and I just couldn't sit there.
And I had a lot to offer. You know, I
had come from a place where we all worked hard
together and this was just new and totally unpalatable to me.
The other thing, I want to quickly mention that I

(45:54):
don't want to take too much of.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Your time, but.

Speaker 11 (45:58):
They paid you for ideas. When you came up with
an idea or a new program or a new initiative,
you've got a bonus, a substantial amount of money. So people,
you know, would get these little bonuses for just coming
up with ideas, and it was incredulous to me. I said,
this is part of work. I mean, this is what

(46:19):
you do and what you bring to it, and I
just I just couldn't take it. Anymore. I lasted eleven months,
and thank god I got a call about another job
and it turned out to be phenomenal for me, and
I was so happy. But I just couldn't sit there
and do nothing.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
As I say, my brother in law was said, what
is wrong with you? All of my dredren in laws?
I mean, this is like a dream. Why don't you
just sit back, read a book, enjoy it. I couldn't
do it.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Deborah. Again, if I'm getting too personal, please tell me.
Let's say you didn't leave. I know you did, but
just for the sake of argument, you didn't leave. So
let's say you it's Deborah. You know the book reader.
Deborah's read, you know every novel ever written. And you've
there ten years, fifteen years, twenty years. What would your

(47:07):
pension have looked like? Do you have any sense of that?
Had you stayed at your job, it.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Would have been huge?

Speaker 11 (47:15):
I think, if I'm not mistaken, they told me after
thirty years you get eighty percent you know, tax three
of your last three highest years, So after twenty years
it's kind of pro rated.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
But it's substantial, absolutely substantial.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Cause what a.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Dollar amount on that ballpark? When you say substantial forty thousand,
fifty thousand, sixty thousand.

Speaker 11 (47:42):
Well, I mean at that time probably I would say
one hundred and twenty one hundred twenty thousand, Yeah, oh yeah,
because I was paid very I was paid just just
one more thing, you know. When I got there, we
agreed on a salary, and I went because it was higher,
a little bit higher than what I had been currently making.

(48:05):
I was looking for a new job. To make a
long story short, everybody, when you get into the system,
you agree on a salary, but then a review board
looks at it, and they look at the number that
was assigned for pay, and.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
This group decides.

Speaker 11 (48:22):
Is it exactly right for your situation, the role, your experience,
so on and so forth. Is it too low or
too high? So after I think it's about six weeks,
two months, whatever, a very short amount of time after
you hired, they'll review that salary and make a decision
on whether or not to keep you at that rate,

(48:43):
bump it up or bump it down. So I held
my breast. I didn't know what they would do. But
lo and behold, they come back to me with the
letter and they raised me up by seven thousand dollars
a year. I was like, oh, this is this is
too good to be true.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
But it's too good true. Deborah, outstanding call, Deborah, you
gotta call again for your first time? Who was incredible? Deborah,
Thank you very much. Well, that's where your money's going.
A one hundred and twenty thousand dollars a year pension
that she hung on. They're giving her bonuses for doing nothing,

(49:26):
and Trump is saying, no, no, no, no, We're gonna
get rid of a lot of people like this now,
hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars, hundreds
and hundreds of thousands of employees like this. We're gonna
clean out that federal swamp. Amen. Brother, See now you
know why I'm in favor of this shutdown. Deborah, thank

(49:49):
you so much for that call.