The Vaccine Showdown

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Cooner country. Okay, my friends, what is incredible
is as the media is engaging, and I pointed this
out on X last night, this fawning, sycophantic, non stop

(00:21):
coverage of the death of Pope Francis, which honestly, to
me at this point is bordering on propaganda. It really is.
It just doesn't stop. And it's the constant bs and
the constant lies. And I mean, look, you know, I
get it. He's dead. He was beloved by some in
the church. Clearly, he was opposed by many within the

(00:43):
church as well. But instead of being balanced about it
and being adults about it and having a mature, serious
retrospective look at his life and his legacy, I mean,
a ya, YAYI they're trying to turn this guy into
a saint. They're they're making him seem like he's the
second coming of Jesus. Really, honestly, okay, but let that go.

(01:07):
Let that go. I don't like to speak ill of
the dead. Let it go, Okay, let it go. My
point is, as the media is flooding the airwaves with
constant talk about the death of Pope Francis, what is
now underneath the radar is that the left in state

(01:30):
after state after state is now declaring war on parental rights,
parental authority, the autonomy and independence of the family, and
in particular they are now making a claim on our children.

(01:51):
And it's not just Massachusetts, although again Massachusetts, like so often,
is an epicenter. But we're talking California, We're talking New York,
We're talking Connecticut, Maine, Illinois, Minnesota. It is a movement
now that is growing across the country, especially in blue states.

(02:15):
Now let me give you two examples. Okay, there's more,
but let me just give you two examples. One, there
is now a big push by lawmakers at the state level.
In fact, it is already law in California, in New York,

(02:37):
in Connecticut, in Maine, and now here in Massachusetts. The
Democrats are aggressively pushing a bill following those states that
would remove all religious exemptions from parents who don't want

(02:58):
their children to get the school mandated school mandated vaccinations.
So say you don't want your child to get all
of those vaccinations, and you say, on religious grounds, on
conscience grounds, I don't want my children to be loaded

(03:18):
up with all of these vaccines, which, by the way,
is your right as a parent. Well, what do you
think they've done in all these other blue states and
that Massachusetts is now trying to follow with this bill.
They have now made it impossible to declare a religious exemption.

(03:39):
They have banned religious exemptions on issues like school mandated
vaccinations for your children. And what I mean by children,
I'm talking all the way up to the age of seventeen.
Now we're gonna say, jeef, jehef, Jeff, what does this
mean in reality? Jeff? In reality, here's what it means.

(04:04):
Children now are barred, banned, prohibited if they come from
families that refuse to vaccinate their kids. They cannot attend
any public or private schools K to twelve. They can't
go to a daycare, they can't go to kindergarten, they

(04:26):
can't go to elementary school, middle school, high school, public
or private. They are not allowed. Now this is already law.
I want to repeat this in many states. Massachusetts now
is trying to add their mass to this list of
this growing movement to get rid of religious exemptions when

(04:51):
it comes to the vaccination of your own children. Now,
what happened to my body, my choice or in this case,
whose children are they do they belong to the parents.
Are they the ultimate responsibility of the parents, or do
they belong to the state and to the government. What

(05:12):
democrats are now saying is that it's not your child,
it's the government's child. And if you don't abide by
their strict vaccination regimen, which, by the way, now in
some states and here in master trying to make a push, okay,

(05:32):
but it's in other states as well, includes the COVID
nineteen job. If you don't want your child to have
a COVID nineteen job, they will prevent you from sending
your child to a public or private school. That's none
of the government's business. Now you're saying, well, Jeb, it

(05:56):
may pose a threat to people's health. No, it's not.
If your child is emunated, say against the measles. There's
a measle outbreak now in Texas. Okay, it's all the
media is trying to blame Robert F. Kennedy Junior for it. Okay,
which is, by the way, there are always measles outbreaks.
But let again let that one go. Leave that aside.
If your child is vaccinated against the measles, your child

(06:18):
is vaccinated against the measles what are you worried about? So,
how does this affect your child? It doesn't. So you're
trying to force parents to do something against their children
that they don't believe is in the best interests of
their child, and that probably violates their fundamental religious beliefs. Now,

(06:42):
how is this right? Seriously? How is this right? We
just celebrated the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of Concord
and Lexington, Paul Revere's famous ride warning Tyrannies at the door,
the British are coming. The British are coming. And now

(07:08):
instead of the crown, the state, the government has the
right to claim our children as their property that they
own above the parents. That that that it supersedes parental
rights and parental authority. I mean, are these people mad?
Now let me give you another example, and then I

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want to open up the phone line six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight. This is now
also in many Blue states. I can I mean, it's
almost too now, it's almost it's over a dozen again.
Massachusetts is pushing a bill to catch up with California
and Minnesota and Colorado and New York and Illinois and Connecticut.

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I could go on and on and Washington and Oregon.
So listen now to this. Here's what's coming. This is
what's coming. This is already in many Blue states, and
it's coming here again Massachusetts. They now want to pass
a bill, and they've already passed bills that literally crushes

(08:18):
and destroys parental consent for your child. And by the way,
it doesn't matter what developmental level your child is. Say
your child is special needs and maybe doesn't quite understand
what is being asked of him or her, It doesn't matter.
Ages five to seventeen. Your child can agree to be

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vaccinated at the school, get full school mandated vaccinations, and sterilization.
They can be sterilized. Let's say they want to start
a trans gender transitioning process. Take puberty blockers or hormones
or whatever, which, by the way, leads to sterilization. You

(09:08):
can never have children again without the parents's consent or
even knowledge, or even knowledge that the parents have no
right to know. If their child say they it's Jimmy,
is saying he's Jenny, or Jenny is saying he's you know,
she she's Jimmy. A boy says she's a girl or

(09:30):
a boy says he's a girl, a girl says she's
a boy. And they want to start this transgender transitioning. Well,
sterilize them, give them puberty blockers, pump them up with
all these hormones. And if they don't, the parents do
not have to consent. The parents don't even have to know.

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So your child can be sterilized behind your back. Your
child can be vaccinated behind your back. This is already
happening in many states. They want to drive it here
now and pass it in Massachusetts. Now, as I said
yesterday on X and I want to repeat it, this

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is state coercion at its very worst. This is literally
the definition of fascism. This is communism. You have no
rights over your child increasingly, and your child is now
seen as the property of the government, who now's authority

(10:33):
supersedes that of you, the parents, and that of the family.
And so I am going to fight this with everything
that I have. This demonic, diabolical, anti parent, anti family,
anti human, anti child movement must be stopped and reversed immediately. Okay, Now,

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in a growing number of states I mentioned them already, California,
New York, Connecticut, Maine. That's just for starters. Massachusetts now
is pushing Democrats are pushing a bill very aggressively. They
have the votes. If we don't stop them, they have
the votes. So we have the issue, we have the
moral high ground, we have the truth. But they work

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in the shadows, and so they need to be exposed.
And many Americans are not even aware of this that
in multiple states and now potentially here in Massachusetts, they
now want to make it illegal. They want to abolish
or get rid of religious exemptions for all children or

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all students under the age of eighteen. And if you,
as the parents, decide you don't want your child to
be vaccinated, then they will bar your child, literally ban
your child, prohibit your child from going to kindergarten, daycare, elementary, middle,

(12:08):
high school, public or private all K twelve schools. Now,
let me ask all of you the first question, and
I think we need to have an honest debate about this,
and if you disagree with me, please I want to
hear all points of view. Six one, seven, two, six, six,
sixty eight sixty eight. Should schools be allowed to ban

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or prohibit students who are not fully vaccinated, who don't
have the full regimen of vaccines that's number one, And
in particular, should state governments? Should states? Should the government
be allowed essentially to force you to vaccinate your child,

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and if you don't, your child is not allowed to
go to any public or private school until at least college,
and in many cases they're not even going to prevent
them from going to college. To me, this is fascism,
this is communism. It's ultimately, the child is the responsibility

(13:23):
of the parents. It's not the government, and your child is.
My children are not owned by the government. The government's
authority does not supersede that of Grace and I as
an example, I am Ashton's father. I am Ava's father,
Grace's Ava's mother, and Ashton's father. We have ultimate authority

(13:47):
and responsibility over our children. Not Mora Healy, not Michelle Wou.
I don't care who the governor is. Now, let me
add one final quick log on the fire, because this
is now also law. It's in Minnesota, it's in Colorado,
it's in California, it's it's it's Stata. They're falling like

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Domino's and it's coming now to Massachusetts as well, which
is there's another, in fact, two bills that they're pushing
now in the Massachusetts legislature. It's already been passed in
other states, so this is gaining momentum. Now there is
an effort by Democrats, and they really are communists. To me,

(14:33):
this is full blown communism, whereby they want to abolish
parental consent, all parental consent when it comes to your
child or people's children, again, with no distinctions whatsoever. Say

(14:54):
you have a child that has, you know, very severely autistic.
I'm just going to use an example. It doesn't matter
if if they can talk your child into getting, say
a regiment of vaccinations that you don't believe is good
for your child, or that your child is, say you know,
maybe biologically a girl or a female that convinces a

(15:15):
male or nine binary or vice versa. They could have
them start to take hormone blockers and sterilization without the
parents's knowledge or consent, literally behind your back. This is
to me beyond outrageous, It is beyond sickening. It is

(15:39):
to me, as I said, this is demonic and diabolical. Well,
this is Tim Waltz's Minnesota. This is Kathy Hokeles, New York.
This is Pritzker's Illinois. This is Gavin Newsom's California, and
very soon, if we don't speak out and nip this

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in the bud, it will be Healey's Massachusetts. Now again,
I'm sorry, but I have ultimate decision over whether my child.
And again, this is five years old to seventeen. So
what you're going to convince an eight, nine, ten year

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old child that they're you know, some kind of transgender
and they should get pumped up on these hormones or
these sterilization drugs and never be able to have children again.
And I get no say, and my wife gets no say,
are you kidding me? I want to take calls, but

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I want to ask all of you, is it not
time for a rally? If we are not going to
defend our children and our grand children, then my god,
what have we come to as a country and as
a society. And that's why in two days, on April
twenty fourth, there will be a massive rally at the

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steps of the State House. I will be speaking, I
will be am seeing. It is sponsored by American Made Action.
It will be at the State House in front of
the Boston Commons Cooner Country. If you love your children,
if you love your grandchildren, show up and tell them no, okay,

(17:34):
just two super super quick points because the lines are
jammed and I want to go to the phone lines
number one. Many of you are texting and emailing the
cooner man. And by the way, you can text us
seven zero four seven zero seven zero four seven zero Jeff.
Does this include the COVID nineteen jab. Yes it does, Yes,
it does. So they're basically telling you now you're gonna no,

(17:58):
it's it's It's not every state. Some states are making
exceptions for the COVID nineteen job. You don't have to
force your trial to take it. But there are many
states now and these bills in Massachusetts there's three of them,
would require the COVID nineteen job for your child. So
again it's on a case by case, state by state basis.

(18:21):
Now I'm sorry, Ashen has never gotten the COVID nineteen job.
Ava's never gotten the COVID nineteen job. By the way,
they don't need it. First of all, COVID is over
one two children had a very strong immunity to COVID nineteen.
This is indisputable. It's indisputable. So why are you forcing

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it on kids, especially when you know take young males
ages eighteen to twenty nine. Even in to say thirty
thirty one, you have a lot of cases of myocarditis
as a side effect, where they're getting heart attack strokes
and enlarged hearts. So again, follow the money. For me,

(19:07):
it's obviously a philosophical issue. This is none of the
government's business. Period. I see it as a pro family,
pro parent rights issue. But under driving all this, just
follow the money. Now. You know they want everybody jabbed

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to the hilt because big Pharma is buying off especially
they've bought off many Republicans. Don't get me wrong, but man,
the Democrat Party is swimming in pharma money. And by
the way, so is almost the entire media. And that's
why there's a conspiracy of silence on this very issue. Now,

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I just want to read this from Larry in Messenger,
who's going to be by the way at the rally.
He's a guy beside me. He always provides security, Air
Force veteran and great guy. Now this is what Larry
wrote to me. Okay, So Jeff wrote to me a messenger. Jeff,

(20:11):
I got my associate's degree at Mass Bay Community College.
There was no issue regarding vaccinations then in twenty twelve,
twenty twelve, this is thirteen years ago. Now, I had
rolled over to Boston College for my bachelor's degree. They

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demanded I get all, and I mean all the required
vaccines or I would be thrown out. It didn't matter
that I got them in elementary school and that I
got them all again when I was in the Air Force. Yes, Jeff,

(20:57):
I was forty two years old at the time. I
would have been barred from campus had I refused. How
many times are you going to vaccinate this man from
the Really? Remember, these vaccines are supposed to be good
for life, right, you know. That's why they go along

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and take them when you're young, you know, before whatever,
just before entering elementary school, or when they're you know,
nine months old or a year old or two years
old or whatever, and you're supposed to be good for
the rest of your life. So you jab them all
up before they go to school. Then you jab them
all up again when he's in the Air Force, and
then blank, you jab them all up one last time
when he's in college or he wants to go to

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Boston College. And if you don't, they won't allow you
on campus. So big farmer is making money once, twice,
three times, and that's just on poor Larry and Larry.
I'm not trying to scare you or anything, honestly, I'm
really I have your consum know my my concern is

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your health and your long term. You know that your
your body isn't damaged in the long term. Is this
even healthy? Like, have there's been studies done? If you
keep loading up shots after shots after shots, I don't know.
Is this is this healthy? Are there are there would

(22:24):
be possible adverse side effects from just constantly vaccinating people
over and over and over. And I'm not talking COVID,
I'm talking about all the other shots. And now your
child can attend school public or private kindergarten all the
way through high school. And now on top of all this,

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they're going to sterilize our children if they deem them
transgender behind our backs. No I don't think so. No, No,
I don't think so. Now what I'm telling you is
they're going to lose. This is again, it's like these
El Salvadorian gangs and gang members. This is a ninety

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ten issue. But to make it a ninety ten issue,
the country has to know about the issue. They don't
know that this is going on, that these laws have
already been passed in blue states, or that they're trying
to do it here in Massachusetts. That's why we have
to expose this and speak out. Agree, disagree. Dave in Gloucester,

(23:34):
Thanks for holding Dave, and welcome.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
About yah.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
I'm good. How are you, Dave?

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Jeff. Who gives the government a right to take over
somebody's kids, to take over a whole family the way,
it's none of their business what the family does. Like
the parents who got railroaded by DCF who went to
Texas get their kids out of this state because of

(24:02):
the way DCF is trying to take over everything with
it and take their kids away and put them in jail. Jeff, nobody,
they don't have any right to tell you what to
do with anything that's going on in your household. And
Jeff is goett to be pathetic. I mean, it's like
they're gonna start saying, if you don't get the JEB

(24:22):
you can't go to school. Well good, that's what homeschools for.
If that's going to be the case, Jeff and a
lot of parents to start actually getting into that instead
of being forced by DCF and this phony governor we
have and this phony mayor that we have saying theyre
all gotta start doing this or else. Jeff is not right.

(24:44):
And it's like not that for nothing, Jeff. But it
seems like they want to keep on pushing these laws
and start getting the parents. They're all wiled up, Jeff.
What are they waiting for the insurrection on the State House?

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Well, Dave, what their bank on is that the citizens
are going to be quiet, That the citizenry are just gonna,
like during much of COVID, they're going to accept the
mandates and they're going to accept the crushing of their
freedoms and liberties, and that people will gripe and they'll complain,

(25:18):
but they won't do anything. And the other thing they're
banking on, Dave, again, it's a conspiracy of silence. Most
people in Massachusetts, I bet you you know, you know,
I bet you dollars to donuts have no clue what
These bills are now making their way, by the way,
both in the State House and the State Senate. It's
going to pass if we don't block it. Now, most

(25:41):
people in California, I don't think even know this is
going on in Illinois, in Minnesota, in New York. They
have no idea. You have no parental rights, Like what,
no parental consent is finished? What? Yeah? They look, if
your child wants to start you know, quote unquote transgender transitioning,

(26:03):
they can give your child. I'm talking about like states
like Minnesota or California, they can start giving your child
these puberty blockers and sterilization. And you don't even know
what's going on. And we're talking about you know, eight
nine ten, forget fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eight nine ten, eleven,
twelve years old, and most parents would be like what what? Yeah,

(26:29):
I didn't here about it. That's the point. That's the point.
And listen, I don't want to get sidetracked with transgenderism.
But transgenderism now is becoming a big business. There's all
these clinics again, big pharmas involved, these drugs, these hormones.
This is becoming a multi billion dollar industry. And they

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give money to politicians and they give money to the media.
So there's a tremendous financial, economic self interest that's take
to lie about all this. And Dave, look, you're right, heay. Ultimately,
the solution for many is going to be homeschooling. Yes,
I agree with you, but think about it. How many
parents can homeschool their kids realistically? The father has to work,

(27:17):
the mother has to work because they've made cost of
living so high and so expensive Biden, especially with inflation,
so they can barely feed their kids and keep a
roof over their head. Most parents simply cannot homeschool their
kids because the mother and the father can't be at
home they're working. So it's really what they're trying to

(27:41):
do now is destroy the family. That's what they're trying
to do, you know. And the name of you know,
the children, like immunizing all the kids. Six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay.
I just want to quickly read this from Mary Anne

(28:02):
from Florida, who listens faithfully almost every day, and I
think she makes an absolutely outstanding point and very true.
So you know, we're now essentially being forced, coerced to
have to vaccinate all of our kids no matter what,
whether we agree or disagree, whether we think it's in

(28:24):
their best interests or not, or essentially we're going to
our children will be banned from going to school, public, private,
from kindergarten all the way through high school, by the way,
and we're paying taxes. See this is the thing. I
I can't wrap my mind around this. So now again

(28:45):
full disclosure. I'm fully vaccinated. So it is grace. My
parents vaccinated me, greg Race's parents vaccinated her. Our children
were you know, fully vaccinated, but say I didn't want
to vaccinate them. So let me get this straight. I'm
paying over ten thousand dollars a year in property taxes.
I'm paying local taxes, state taxes, state income taxes, federal taxes.

(29:08):
I could go on and on, taxes up the wazoo.
And I'm paying for my children's education. Okay, my taxes
go right to the local schools my children attend. And
now you're telling me, as a taxpayer, that I can't
send my kid to school because I choose not to

(29:29):
meet your regiment of vaccinations. It's not just an assault
on parental consent in parental authority. It's not just an
assault on the family. It's an assault on taxpayers. I mean,
am I missing something here? Six one seven two six
six sixty eight sixty eight. But look, she makes a

(29:51):
very very good point, and this is from Marianne. Good morning, Jeff. Well,
good morning to you, mary Anne. So tell me, Jeff,
who's the dictator Trump. No, it's the Democrats. But do
you see how stupid they are that they can't even
see that it's their party that wants to determine whether

(30:13):
they live and breathe or not. They've made drug companies
a protected class because if something happens due to any
of these vaccinations, you can't sue them, no matter what.
And by the way, does this apply to the illegals.

(30:34):
Do their kids have to be vaccinated up one side
and down another. I'd like the Democrats to answer that question.
The brainwashing of the weak minded is real.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Here.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
It is.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Illegals do not have to vaccinate their kids. So our
children have to be completely vaccinated with all of these
chemical cocktails. And if we object on whatever grounds and
we pay the taxes, our children are barred or in

(31:18):
this case, will be if these bills pass in Massachusetts.
Either are barred in some states or will be barred.
We can't send our kids to public or private schools.
We're literally forced to homeschool or kids. But the illegals
can send all their kids to school. Pay no taxes

(31:39):
and they don't have to be vaccinated one iota. I mean,
I'm sorry, this is disgusting. I mean, this is you
want to talk about being third class citizens in your
own country. And she's completely right. Notice the illegal immunity
that big pharma and drug companies have. Look what happened

(32:03):
with the mr NA job on COVID, how many adverse
side effects? Nothing. You can't sue them. So it doesn't
matter if they keep forcing you to take vaccine after
vaccine after vaccine, and if your child hasn't doesn't have
a good reaction to it, or you don't think it's
in the best interests of your child, no one can

(32:24):
sue them. They're untouchable. But we now have governments ramming
down their drugs are down our throats and that of
our children. And you think it stops at the children.
It's not going to stop at the children. What they're
going to say is, Okay, you can't go to college
without taking the job, or without taking the vaccinations. Okay

(32:48):
you can't get a job, you can't work. What they're
trying to do is impose sweeping vaccine mandates upon all
of society, and so really, what the government is saying. Yes,
they're saying, your children belong to them, not to us.

(33:09):
It's the government's child, not your child. But ultimately what
they're saying is and that's why I'm telling you it's
communism or fascism, either one. You me, all of us,
our bodies belong to the state. They don't just own

(33:31):
our children, they own us. We stop them temporarily during
the COVID pandemic and the mandates and the lockdowns, and
now the radical left is just picking up where they
left off. Agree, disagree, Mel in New York. Thanks for

(33:52):
holding Mel and welcome.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Yes, come on, I jus thank you for taking my call,
my pleasure mail.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Yes, sir, thank you.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
You know, I had a long time that was that
I had in front of my house during the November
general election, and.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Uh there was a uh uh what is it? Well, anyway,
there was a proposal on the reverse side of our
ballot and it was for uh, the issue that you're
speaking about now, and a signum has reached protect parental rights.
Vote no, and it's Proposition one, that's what it's called

(34:32):
here in New York State, Prop one and uh so
I I'm going to call my uh my state representative
Jimmy the disco and find out where, you know where
where the uh where the where this issue lies within
the state, uh, the state or the State Assembly, whether

(34:53):
this is going to go.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
I mean, well sure it's on the floor. I I
just want to know, you know, what what the status is.
But yeah, it's what I think the Democrats are trying
to do. They're trying to they're trying to evoke, evoke,
evoke a a violent reaction from the Senate, from from
the UH, from from the from the public. Because as

(35:15):
Dave was saying, what right have the has the government
to dictate to to you what what goes on in
your household? This is this is uh, this is not
their position. You know, we, like you said, we pay
the front, We signed the front of their paychecks. They
work for us, not the other way around. We're not

(35:35):
you know, we're not there. You know, we're they don't.
They're not royalty, we're not there there. It's just their subjects.
I just they're they're pushing. They're just pushing it. Like
as he said, they're pushing, pushing, pushing and pushing and
pushing to to just control every aspect, every waking moment
of your life, even while you're a sleep total Jeff,

(35:58):
and this is you know, it's got to stop. And
I'm like I said, I'm going to call the descal
and find out where you know, and I'll jump down
his throat and dance on his liver. I mean, if
he doesn't really get off his backside and pushed to
the other Republican side of the Assembly to oppose this,

(36:20):
this is you know, it's totally ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Look right now, as usual, you're full of common sense
and you're completely right. And look the reason and the
only reason why. And these really are Marxists and communists,
that's what they really are. The reason why these Marxists
and communists are winning on the issue is not because
it's popular. Again, really it's a ninety maybe eighty twenty,

(36:44):
but I think it's a ninety ten issue. It's that
they're doing it through subterfuge. They're doing it in the shadows.
Most people have no idea what the hell their state
legislatures or in the State Assembly is. You guys are
calling it up in New York, but they they have
no idea what's going on. They don't follow anything, and
no one's informing them. But when you know about this,

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you've got to ring the alarm bell. You can't be passive,
not when it comes to our children and grandchildren. Ultimately us.
The state does not own our body, and the state
does not own our children. And you're completely right if
the state can come into our homes, in our families

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and dictate something as personal and intimate as vaccines and
vaccinations or whether your child can be sterilized or not
without you even knowing about it. Holy mackerel, this is common. Literally,
this is communist China. So look, we're a free society

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as long as the citizens are willing to defend and
protect their fundamental rights and liberties. And you know, I
remember my professors taught me this. Okay, there were brilliant
men and actually a couple of women, brilliant men and women,
and they said, you have to understand, Jeff, the greatest
threat to individual freedom in the history of the world

(38:18):
is the state. It's the government. Government wants to constantly
grow its power. The state wants to constantly grow its power.
Politicians feed on power. It's the ultimate aphrodisiac. And so
the job of citizens, and it used to be that

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of the media. But the media now has been completely
co opted by the state, Okay, completely compromised and taken over.
But the job of the citizens is always to keep
the state, the government in check. And that's what our
founding fathers literally fought the American Revolution for. That's what
they fought for at conquer than Lexington. That's what they

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fought for on July fourth, seventeen seventy six with Jefferson's
famous Declaration of Independence. Now, if you're not going to
fight for your own fundamental God given rights and liberties
and that of your children or your grandchildren, politicians aren't bureaucrats, aren't.

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They want more power, not less. And so that's why
we've got to start speaking out. Now, what I really
want to stress to you is, I'm telling you even
most liberals and Democrats are with us on this issue.
I'm telling you, whatever it's signs they put up on
their front yards, they don't want their children jabbed behind

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their backs. They don't, no sane person does. They don't
want their children to undergo public you know, hormones or sterilization,
or without at least their parental knowledge and consent. This

(40:09):
is an issue we can break the left and expose
how extreme and totalitarian and I'm choosing my words correct.
I'm like, carefully, this is totalitarian, how extreme and radical
and dangerous the left has become. But you gotta fight,
you gotta talk, you gotta you know, you got to

(40:31):
speak out. And I've always said this, the strongest, greatest
weapon in the world is the truth. But you have
to speak it. Cara in Haver All, thanks for holding Cara,
and welcome.

Speaker 5 (40:50):
Much for taking my call and for having this segment
this morning. We really appreciate it. So I've been in
this fight since the first time Rep. Vargas introduced the
bill to remove religious exemption. It feels like forever. It's
been probably three or four years. So the majority of
my young children's life, they've known me in this fight

(41:13):
and you know, overwhelmed and stressed about this issue of
removing them from schools. So just to back up and
give your callers factual information the bill in question. Here,
we have two bills regarding removing the religious exemption. That
is S one five five seven filed by Senator rausch
An H two five five four filed by Representative Vargas.

(41:37):
You've done a great job giving us the background and
the details of these bills. But what I'd like to
point out is that this session is a bit different.
They've taken a different approach because they had a bold
and unprecedented shift and they had a hearing where they
called in the Massachusetts Medical Society and they had a

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hearing and they testified to legislators and the health action
groups that have voiced, you know, opposition to these bills.
They weren't invited, they were barred from participating in that hearing,
so no dissenting views were allowed. So it really wasn't
a balanced discussion. And it's really a bold and strategic

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signal that there is momentum this session to eliminate the exemption.
And you know, as I mentioned, we've been in this
fight for a number of years and many of many
of us are worn out, were worn down, and they're
betting on that. So we have to rise up this session.
We have to uh, you know, approach our legislators, We

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have to voice opposition to this that we cannot be
compliant now more than ever. That's point one I wanted
to make. Point two is someone said, oh, you should
just homeschool, Well that's really not an option for anyone
who holds a job, and especially not an option for
anyone that has a child on an individualized education special

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education plan, because please note that those children would also
be barred from attending school and accessing vital services to
their education. So I didn't know if you're still with me, Jess.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
No, kare You're doing great. Look the only thing I
would just interject, and you're dead on, is see how
tolerant they are. Look at the tolerance, Cara, huh. Look
at how confident they are in their position. So they're
not even willing to allow the other side to get
their viewpoints across. There's no opposition allowed, no dissent allowed.

(43:42):
This is my point, Kara. They're totalitarian thugs. And to
reinforce what you're saying, I want to protect the privacy
of my children. But for example, my ava, Okay, my
beautiful twelve year old daughter, who I hope will show
up at the rally on Thursday. We'll see if a
mother lets her go. But let that go because my
wife is a bit nervous about these rallies. But anyway,

(44:04):
I'm trying to get my wife and my kids to come.
But we'll see. But the point is, Kara, she's on
an IEP. My twelve year old has dyslexia. You know,
she's got ADHD. So they had to put her on
an IEP. And the school that she now goes to
has done an incredible job because they have certain experts,

(44:26):
really good teachers, about three or four of them, and
they've come together and really Ava's education level and learning
ability has been transformed in the last two years. She's
like a different child. Homeschooling for us would not work.
I'm telling you, it just would not work because we're
not we don't have the capabilities to deal with Ava's issues.

(44:53):
And so you're right, You're completely right. I'm like, I'm
nodding my head up and down. So for many of us,
home schooling it's not an option. It's not an option. Kara,
You're on a roll. Please keep going.

Speaker 5 (45:07):
I want to also point out that Rausch's bill gives
the Massachusetts Department of Public Health the authority to add
in any vaccine to the current required schedule of vaccinations
for children in Massachusetts. So if that bill were to pass,
you're basically giving over you know, your child's medical authority

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to the Department of the Massachusetts Department of Public Health.
So I think that's a really big point here that
needs to be understood. So they can just kind of
willingly add any vaccination to the schedule that they want.
They can do it at any time. They don't have
to have legislator approval, which I believe is the law
as it stands now. So I think we should all

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call Kara.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
They can they add the COVID nineteen job for example.

Speaker 5 (45:53):
Yeah, And that's what they're going to do. They're going
to pass these bills so that everybody's hands are tied
and they're working in boots with you know, all the
medical agencies and all the pro vaccine agencies in the
state of Massachusetts so that they can push these vaccines
into the schedule.

Speaker 6 (46:09):
It's very deliberate, incredible, incredible, we all Cara, I've got
to ask you this, how much lobbying, how much money
is coming from big pharma because they're going to make
They're going to make I mean, this is gonna be
a bonanza for them.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
They're gonna it's I know they're already making a ton
of money, but if these bills pass, this is I mean,
this is going to line their pockets even more. Are
you noticing now that big Pharma is putting a full
court press to get these bills passed.

Speaker 5 (46:40):
I would say so based on the hearing that they
had in the Massachusetts Medical Society let it so. Yeah.
I think they see what's happening with Centerate, with Kennedy,
you know, going into HHS. I think they're fearful. I
think they're scrambling like little rats to try to get
these bills through to protect them and protect their pockets.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
No doubt, Caarra, Will you be there on Thursday? Can
your people show up? We need your people to show up.
We've got to show strengthen numbers now, and numbers are
everything again.

Speaker 5 (47:12):
I'll pull out the signs in the basement that I
have and I go, you know every time. But before
you know we conclude, Jack, I want to point out
that these bills would not only keep your children out
of school, they would keep your children out of any
activity that requires an immunization record. So even though the
bill doesn't, you know, call out and say they're going to,
you know, eliminate access to any clubs or activities. That's

(47:34):
absolutely what's going to happen. So you can say goodbye
to your summer camp. You could say goodbye to your
after school activities. You could say goodbye to club soccer shouting.
The list goes on and on. There are excluding our
children from society. So it's bigger than just the school.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Caara, am I exaggerating when I say in many ways
it's like the COVID lockdowns all over again.

Speaker 6 (47:57):
Yes, yes that I'm exager Yes, oh you're not exaggerating.

Speaker 5 (48:02):
No, it's true. Because your child cannot attend any school,
public or private. This will go into college, this will
go into daycares as well. Let's not leave that out.
You know, and not only you know, school attendance, daycare, college,
community college. Let's also consider any kind of activity outside
of your home your child will be excluded from.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
I mean, this is totalitarian, this is unbelievable. Carara, outstanding call.
Please don't be a stranger. I look forward to seeing
you on Thursday, and Cara, let's get the word out.
We got to show up on Thursday for the rally
at noon. Carara, thank you very much for that call. Again,
huge rally. I'll be m seeing speaking sponsored by American

(48:44):
Made Action, two days from today, Thursday noon at the
State House in front of Boston Common Cooner Country. We've
got to do this, my friend, We've got to do
it all right, Okay, Mike says, one minute, I don't
want to rush more in Medford. So I'm gonna promise
I'm gonna take more of your calls on the other side.
Let me just quickly reset. Laws have now been passed

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in over a half dozen states. Soon it's going to
be ten or twelve states. Bills are now pending here
in Massachusetts that would get rid abolish all religious exemptions
on school mandated vaccinations. That means your child doesn't have
the vaccines, they cannot go to public or private school

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ca to twelve schools. Furthermore, sterilization your child now five
to seventeen years old if they don't if they want
to become transgender or transition