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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, cooner. Contrary, okay, historic, consequential, incredible. Those are
just some of the words now being used by many
to describe what Trump pulled off over the weekend in Scotland.
He was visiting one of his golf courses, and of

(00:22):
course he wasn't just there for pleasure, he was there
for business as well, and so looming in the background
was a possible now trade war with the European Union.
And many people don't know this, but the EU, the
European Union, which is a twenty seven member states twenty

(00:43):
seven countries, is a the world's largest trading block, the
EU itself, but that trading block is America's largest trading partner.
We do more trade with the European Union than we
do with China or Canada, Mexico, Japan, take your pick.

(01:08):
It is our number one trading partner. And yesterday Trump
did the impossible. He now achieved a trade deal in
which listen to this from this point forward, the European
Union is gonna pay a baseline tariff of fifteen percent

(01:35):
on all of their exports to the United States, and
very importantly, that includes cars and automobiles. So you like
your German cars, you like your Mercedes, your BMW's, you know,
your Volkswagons, whatever they're gonna go. There's gonna be a
fifteen percent tariff now on all of these automobiles and

(01:59):
all other product us coming into the United States now
on our end. And by the way, it's not just this.
Not only will this protect American car makers, but what
it will do is end the massive unfair advantage that
the Europeans have been imposing upon not just American car companies,

(02:24):
but you name it, semiconductors, pharmaceuticals, agricultural products, chemical products,
everything under the sun. The Europeans had massive tariffs already
prior to this deal, as well as non tariff trade
barriers in many countries. They were effectively closed, so the

(02:49):
Europeans themselves. Yesterday the EU Commissioner vonder Layan is how
you pronounce her last name. She openly admitted that the
EU now was taken to the cleaners in this deal
because before many of their markets were closed while our

(03:11):
market was open, giving them a massive unfair trade advantage
which led to huge trade deficits for US, and of
course was massively massively beneficial to the Europeans those days.
She says are now over. Trump has rebalanced the entire

(03:31):
trade between Europe and the United States, making it much
fairer and much more advantageous to the United States, to
American companies, to American workers, to American manufacturing. And on
top of all of this, it's not just now it's
going to be a baseline tariff of fifteen percent, with

(03:55):
the Europeans now effectively getting rid of their tariffs on
our goods. But furthermore, listen to this. They are now
gonna buy over seven hundred and fifty billion dollars in
US energy products, and they're gonna be investing an additional

(04:17):
six hundred billion into the United States more investment from Europe.
They're now committed to buy nearly a trillion dollars worth
of our goods. Their non tariff barriers and their tariffs
are coming down, while ours are going to be a
steady fifteen percent, winning, winning, winning. Listen now to President

(04:41):
Trump saying I just made a deal and it is
literally the biggest trade deal in human history. Roll cut three, Mike.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
So we have good news. We've reached a deal. It's
a good deal for everybody, I believe, and it's I
think you were saying, this is probably the biggest deal
ever reached in any capacity, trade or beyond trade.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
It is.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
That's it's a giant deal with lots of countries.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
We have a trade deal between the two largest economies
in the world, and it's a big deal. It's a
huge deal. It will bring stability, it will bring predictability.
That's very important for our businesses on both sides of
the Atlantic. It's fifteen percent tariffs across the board all

(05:39):
in inclusive. It's a huge deal with tough negotiations. I
knew it at the beginning and it was indeed very tough,
but we came to good conclusions for both sides. So again,
congratulations and many things.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Thank you, Thank you. That's EU Commissioner Ursula vonder Land.
You hear the woman talking.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
It is.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
It's the biggest deal in trade history. And these are
the two biggest economies combined EU and the United States.
And look, the days of the Europeans ripping us off
are over. They're over. And the days of these massive
trade deficits where we constantly lose out to the Europeans,

(06:23):
where we lose investment, where where wealth is getting transferred
to the Europeans, where we continue to see American jobs
being lost in our industrial manufacturing base being hollowed out.
Those days are over, absolutely over. And listen now to

(06:45):
President Trump. Very quickly, President Trump saying, look, someone had
to do it, and it was tough, and it led
to a bit of a trade war for a couple
of months. It wasn't play. The Europeans were not happy.
Back and forth, there was a lot of insults flying.

(07:06):
But in the end they had to pay a fifteen
percent tariff to continue to have access to the American market,
which is the most lucrative market in the world. And
the Europeans realized, hey, look we're going to have to
put some water in our wine. We were ripping them off.

(07:26):
And now it's going to be a good deal. But
it's going to be a fair deal. And as Trump says,
all I want is a fair deal. Rold cut three
a Mike.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
We're known as a tough negotiator and deal maker. What
is in front and what is in front of us?
If we are successful, I think it would be the
biggest deal each of us has ever struck.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
So I'm very much.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Looking forward ever struck by anybody.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
That's true so he's right. So now here's a couple
of right away out of the gate, a couple of
major consequences. Number One, the naysayers, those that were preaching
gloom and doom that when Trump announced Liberation Day on tariffs,

(08:18):
if you remember that, they came out again. The media
lied again. The media was wrong again, The Democrats were
wrong again. They all came out in unison like a chorus,
that this was going to spark a recession, that this
was going to lead to the stock market crashing, that

(08:40):
we were now going to have this international trade war
that was going to burn down the global economic trading system. Basically,
the sky was going to fall, there'd be a depression,
a great depression. And instead nothing, nothing, the very opposite,
the very opposite has happened. The stock market now is

(09:04):
at literally its highest level ever. The economy now is
really starting to boom, and the trade deals now are
falling in place. One, two, three, four, five, Great Britain done,
Japan done, Vietnam done, Philippines done, Indonesia done, and now

(09:26):
the European Union done. And what I find incredible, and
I'm sorry but I have to say this these By
the way, Japan was ripping us off. Great Britain was
ripping us off, Vietnam was ripping us off, Canada's ripping
us off, Mexico's ripping us off. China obviously was they

(09:49):
were raping us. Practically, the EU was ripping us off.
Yet why is it? Seriously ask yourself why is it?
And again I want to stress this. The EU Commissioner
Ursula vonder Legend, the woman that you heard in the
last two clips, openly said no, we were taking advantage
of the United States. And this was because she's taking

(10:14):
a lot of heat back home saying well, you just
rolled over, I mean Trump just took you guys to
the cleaners. And she came out and said, well, we
were taking advantage of America for decades. This just rebalances everything,
makes it more fair. Why is it that no other president,

(10:36):
not Joe Biden, not Barack Obama, not George W. Bush,
not Bill Clinton, not Bush forty one these are both
Democrats and Republicans. How come nobody fought for American workers?
Sixty one seven, two six six, sixty eight, sixty eight
is the number? Okay, President Trump now does it pulls

(10:59):
off and incredible. In fact, the biggest trade deal ever
in history, again proving the naysayers wrong. Now, what this does,
on top of now protecting the American market and in
particular protecting our automobile industry, our pharmaceutical industry, our chemical industry,

(11:20):
our farmers, agriculture. I could go on and on and on,
is what it now does, is it establishes. Essentially, this
is now going to be the American position going forward,
a fifteen percent baseline tariff. The only country that has

(11:41):
so far gotten under fifteen percent is Britain. And why
because they're an extremely close ally and b they negotiated early,
and they negotiated respectfully. And so Trump said, you know,
you guys are being very nice about this, more than
fair about it. I'm going to cut you out a deal.
I'm gonna give you a little bit of a special.

(12:03):
But for everybody else, it's going to be at least
fifteen percent, if not more so. For example of Vietnam
and Indonesia and the Philippines it's actually nineteen percent, but Japan,
EU it's fifteen percent. It appears now this is going
to be the standard, the baseline tariff that Trump now

(12:25):
wants to set for many many countries around the world.
He now has to move forward on China. That's going
to be the toughest one I think for him to
nail down, because the Chinese are trying to drive a
hard bargain. They have a lot to lose. In fact,
of any country in the world, they have the most

(12:46):
to lose because who's been dumping all of their goods
and products for the last thirty years. China, who's racked
up trillions of dollars in trade surpluses against US. China
who has been robbing US blind, China who's been stealing
our intellectual property, China who's been engaging in unfair, illegal

(13:11):
trade practices. China, and they don't want to stop. They
want to continue to take advantage of US. Canada and
Mexico I think are going to be easier. Trump, I
think is going to be tougher on those two because
of the way they've conducted themselves, or at least their
left wing governments have conducted themselves. So you may see

(13:33):
a twenty twenty five percent tariff on Canada and Mexico.
But the pieces now are starting to fall into place,
and so what you're seeing now is in America first
trade policy, something that should have been done frankly thirty
five forty years ago, but better late than never. And

(13:58):
what I find in this is to me what I
blows my mind. This was so blatantly unfair. Just to
give you an example, Germany had over ten percent tariffs
on all American cars. It doesn't matter four GM, doesn't matter, SUVs, Sedans,

(14:22):
it doesn't matter. Ten percent, almost eleven percent tariffs. This
was before any of these deals under the name of
so called free trade. They had ten to eleven percent
tariffs on our cars going into Germany. They had zero

(14:43):
zero on all of their cars coming into the American market.
Plus there were all kinds of quotas that the Germans
imposed on American cars and all kinds of other non
tariff barriers that basically made it in possible for American
car manufacturers, for GM, etc. To sell their cars. Germany's

(15:09):
a big market, eighty million people. It's one of the wealthiest,
if not wealthiest country in Europe. And that's why Trump
kept saying over and over again. He goes, look, I'm
a businessman. I traveled to Germany all the time. Beautiful country.
I like the people. But hey, I go to Berlin,
I don't see one American car. Frankfurt, I don't see
one American car Munich, I don't see one American car.

(15:34):
I come back to the United States and I see
people driving German cars everywhere. I don't care if they're Jettas,
I don't care if they're Passats. I don't care if
they're a BMW's or Mercedes or I see German cars herever.
I see volkswagons wherever I go. So how come your

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market is effectively closed to us, but our market is
effectively wide open to you all under the name of
free trade. What's so free about it except that you
guys are free to rip us off? Now what I
find incredible? How come no other US president ever stood

(16:19):
up for the American worker. For I'm just using cars
now as an example for the American automobile industry, for
American companies, American industries, American manufacturers. You allowed your country,
you know, pardon my French, to get screwed year after year,

(16:42):
decade after decade, over and over again. And it was
all fine with you until Donald Trump came along. What
you're going to see now is you're going to see
other countries now follow in line after this massive victory
over the EU, Canada and Mexico will come to the table,

(17:06):
and in the end, China's gonna realize we don't need them,
they need us. And Trump is gonna break China. And
now he's gonna recreate the global trading system that no
longer takes advantage of the United States. My friends, we

(17:27):
are watching an historic achievement by an historic president and
we are now living through historic times. Six one seven two, six,
six sixty eight, sixty eight is the number. Okay, massive,
historic consequential achievement. And yet all the media wants to

(17:49):
talk about, and this shows you how pathetic they're becoming
is Epstein. Epstein, Epstein. I'm telling you can't make this up.
They don't want to talk about this incredible trade deal.
They don't want to talk about the new economic numbers.
They don't want to talk about everything that Trump has
achieved in the last six months. No, no, no, all

(18:13):
they're talking about on shenn or ms LEFBC or ABC News,
NBC News, CBS News, New York Times, Washington Post. They
are obsessed with Epstein because they're convinced that there's something
there there. They're convinced that somehow, some way, this time

(18:36):
they're finally gonna get Trump. However crazy it may seem,
however desperate they are, they somehow think, no, this time
we're gonna get them. Listen now, this is really, this
is mind blowing. Trump in Scotland has just announced again

(18:59):
A want to stress this the biggest trade agreement in history.
But what does the what does the so called press score,
the state run media, what do they want to talk about?
Roll cut ten a mics rush to get this deal?

(19:25):
Don's local, Jeffy sty.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
You got to be kidding with it.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
No, I had nothing to do with it.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Only you would think that not had nothing to do
with it?

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Was it? You know? Was there a rush to get
this deal done to knock the Epstein storry out? Knock
it out? Well, even if we do the deal, you
people are still going to talk about it, so it's
not going to knock anything out. I mean, pathetic, absolutely pathetic.

(19:59):
Now here is what's happening on the Epstein front. Just
so that everybody knows. Late last week, the Deputy Attorney General,
the number two under Pambondi, Todd Blanche, met with Jelaine
Maxwell and her lawyers for five hours one day and
then another three hours the following day. There were DOJ

(20:24):
officials there as well, recording the interview, transcribing the entire
interview slash deposition and according now to what's been leaked
in the media because they can't reveal any of this.
Apparently now they have given Jelaine Maxwell what is called

(20:44):
limited immunity, meaning if she gives up bigger fish, they
are not going to charge her with other crimes. She's
already got twenty years in jail to me, by the way,
that was a gift. She should be in jail for
the rest of her life and then some but let

(21:05):
the let that go. So they're gonna give her limited immunity.
So if she reveals incriminates herself in evidence that she gives,
they're saying, okay, we're not going to charge you for that.
So apparently now there are some big big names. There was,
as I said, the whole time, there was an Epstein

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client list, or if you want to haggle over a list.
There were major clients of Epstein who were involved in
sex trafficking and who were involved in the sexual exploitation
and sexual abuse of underage girls and boys, and apparently

(21:47):
A name now that is coming up again and again
and again is Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton went to Epstein
Island twenty eight times. There are now victims coming out
and saying I was sexually molested and abused by Bill Clinton.

(22:08):
Jelaine Maxwell is now spilling the beans on the Clintons
because it appears Hillary Clinton knew as well. Not that
she participated, but she was an accomplice. Now that name
is coming up over and over again. There are other names,
big billionaires, donors, hedge fun guys. Listen now to Trump

(22:36):
speaking to reporters outside of Marine One saying, you know,
you guys keep going on about me being in the
Epstein files. Let me tell you there are some big
names in those files. And wink wink. Julaine Maxwell is
starting to sing like a canary. Roll cut eleven, Mike,

(23:00):
didn't you trust what she's telling him? She's a convicted
drafticker leader to get out of prison. Well, you know,
he's a professional lawyer.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
I think he's been through things like this before.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
But you know, you should focus on Clinton. You should
focus on the.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
President of Harvard, the former president of Harvard.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
You should focus on some of the hedge fund guys.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
I'll give you a list these guys lived with.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Jeffrey had said, I sure as hell did. So he's
talking about Larry Summers, former president of Harvard. Now apparently
she's mentioning his name quite frequently. He just Trump himself
mentioned Bill Clinton. And of course some of these big
hedge fund guys, now what about Trump? This is what

(23:45):
the media they're hoping to hit pay dirt. Finally, apparently
Trump's name does appear in the Epstein files in several places.
But even the mainstream media is saying over and over
and over again. And they have to say this because
they know that's defamation if they don't, and that they're

(24:08):
going to get their pants suit off. I mean, they're
going to be bankrupted. So they keep saying over and
over again, just because your name is in the files
doesn't mean you did anything wrong. You know, I e.
I saw at a party in two thousand and one

(24:29):
Epstein with Donald Trump. Okay, it's not a crime to
be at a party with the guy whatever President Trump
knew Epstein we went tomorrow lago and then we shook
hands with Trump. So, in other words, just the fact
that your name appears in the Epstein files doesn't mean

(24:51):
you've done anything wrong. In fact, there are countless names
in the files, doesn't mean all of them did anything wrong. Now,
the media is covering itself by constantly repeating this disclaimer.
They're hoping, however, that something somewhere shows up Trump with

(25:12):
an underage girl, Trump with a child, Trump somehow being
involved in the trafficking of kids. It's bs. They know it.
I know it. Everybody knows it. But they're trying to
get Donald Trump at all costs. And that's why they
just keep mentioning it and mentioning it and mentioning it.

(25:36):
It's like guilt by association. Just keep throwing Trump's name
out there and tie it to Epstein. And that's why
pressure now is building inexorably that eventually Trump will release
all of the files. I believe he has no choice. Now.

(25:57):
What is clearly upsetting Trump is that there are gonna
be names in the files, like himself, in which there
is no verifiable evidence whatsoever, where it's just loose talk
or gossip or someone's name is just mentioned, and people's

(26:18):
professional credibility could be destroyed. And that's why if you notice,
Trump kept saying, I don't mind if you release the files,
but it's got to be credible evidence. You can't just
put out any name for the sake of putting out
any name. That's why he's been hesitant to release all

(26:39):
of the files, not just for himself obviously, but for
many other people who could have their reputations completely trashed
and destroyed and they never did anything wrong. In the end,
I think it's not gonna matter. Congress is going to
force the Epstein files to be released. Bondi's gonna have

(27:01):
no choice but to release the Epstein files, and then
we're gonna have to look at them, and then we're
gonna differentiate those that committed actual, real crimes from those
who did absolutely nothing. Okay, my friends, let me ask you.
It is the Kooner Country Pole. Question of the Day

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sponsored by Marios Mario's Quality Roofing, Siding and Windows. Is
President Trump's tariff policy working in the wake of yesterday's
historic agreement the largest trade deal in history with the
European Union? Is President Trump's tariff policy working? A? Yes,

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b no? You know my answer? Hell? Yes, you know what?
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(28:32):
in the Daily Telegraph in London, which is the conservative
paper of the United Kingdom and their their biggest selling paper,
their most influential paper, along with the Times of London
quote Trump has triumphed over the EU. So in Britain.
In Brussels, Ursula vonder Lay and the EU Commissioner is

(28:58):
taking a lot of heck. They are really attacking her,
saying that she waved a white flag of surrender, that
Trump outminneuvered her at every point of the negotiation, and
that she effectively rolled over for the Americans and for Trump.
So you know, Brussels is saying it, Berlin is saying it,

(29:20):
London is saying it, Paris is saying it. This deal
big win for the United States, not so much for
the European Union. Okay, very quickly six one seven two six,
six sixty eight sixty eight. If you want to get
in on the conversation, uh, this is from six oh three.

(29:42):
You can text the cooner man seven zero four seven
zero seven zero four seven zero. As you know, my
wonderful wife, my better half, and we did celebrate our
twenty ninth wedding anniversary yesterday, so we you know, we
had a nothing, a nice dinner. The kids, well, obviously

(30:03):
the kids joined us. They pretty much took over the dinner,
but let that go. But we did manage to spend
some time together and celebrate our twenty ninth wedding anniversary.
And one of the topics of conversation was, yes, Trump's
trade policy because, as you know, my better half, doctor

(30:24):
Grace putting liberals in their place. Grace big critic of
Trump's trade policy. Doesn't like his tariffs, didn't like the
trade war, doesn't like protectionism in general. She's pretty much
a free trader. And you know she was predicting a
lot of doom and gloom not so much. I kept

(30:50):
telling her for months, relax, have a glass of Italian wine,
take it easy. It's all gonna work out in the end, Okay,
trust me. They need to make a deal to get
access to the American market. They will all they're gonna,
you know, yell, scream, shout, threaten, But in the end

(31:15):
they're gonna walk. You're gonna they're gonna tow the line,
and then they're gonna finally sign the deal. And now
you're starting to see all of them, one by one
fall into line. So and this EU deal the biggest.
So here's what six oh three? Uh rights, Jeff. So,

(31:36):
this latest and so far the greatest trade deal with
the European Union begs the question did the coooner man
get a big You were right again, Jeff. Over the weekend,
as I'm sure you remember, doctor Grace of Woto was
vehemently against the timing of President Trump's tariffs. She argued

(32:00):
how the TIFFs were going to backfire on Trump, how
the last thing we as voters wanted to hear was
that we might have to deal with a little bit
of pain in the short term. So I'm just curious,
did you get a mia kulpa from your resident Calabrian.
Grace's parents are from Calabria in the Old Country. No. No,

(32:24):
My wife never admits when she's wrong. You know, she's
always right when she's right. She's right, and when she's wrong,
she's right. So no, I did not get a mea culpa.
But that's okay. All I need to know is I

(32:44):
was right, and of course Trump was right to me.
That's all that matters because that means things are good
for America. Six one seven two six, six sixty eight
sixty eight is the number. Okay, let me ask all
of you just to put another big log on the
fire because the media doesn't want to talk about this

(33:07):
massive trade deal because again it blows up another narrative.
And by the way, have you noticed there hasn't been
massive inflation as they predicted. Most of the companies are
eating the tariffs like I predicted, and it didn't lead
to a collapse in the stock market, it didn't lead

(33:29):
to a recession. In fact, now they're all saying the
likelihood of a recession is almost zero, that the fundamentals
in the economy are very strong. Why because all of
this investment is now pouring into the United States. Because
now people and companies around the world don't want to

(33:50):
pay that fifteen to twenty percent tariff. So they're saying,
you know what, let's build in America instead of exporting.
Let's go right to it America and build plants and
factories there and hire American workers there. So wages now
are also starting to go up. So what you're seeing

(34:13):
now is that Trump is building a solid foundation for
a massive economic expansion. Trumpomics is working. It's working now.
They don't want to talk about that because again they
were caught lying one more time. So it's all Epstein,

(34:36):
all the time, around the clock. So I want to
ask all of you, what do you make of the
fact now that Jelaine Maxwell has now been given limited
immunity and apparently she's starting to spill the beans. Bill

(34:56):
Clinton now is in serious trouble. Larry Summers his name,
former President A. Havid, very powerful prominent Democrat. His name
is now being mentioned by Julaine Maxwell. You're talking now
about some very prominent Democrat billionaires and Democrat donors. Should

(35:19):
Bill Clinton be indicted, that's let me ask you this
number one number two? Would you like to see him
go to jail? Number two? On Julaine Maxwell. Many of
the victims now are speaking out and they are saying

(35:39):
that there should be no deal made with Julaine Maxwell.
She wants a pardon from Trump, or at a minimum,
a commutation from Trump, because according to her, if she's
going to give up some big fish, she should get
something in return. Now, Trump is not interested in pardoning her,
he's not interested in giving her a commutation. But the

(36:02):
victims are now speaking out saying, this woman is an
absolute monster who didn't just arrange for the girls to
be traffic to Epstein and his powerful pedophile friends, but
in fact she also actively engaged in the sexual abuse
and mistreatment of young underage girls and young underage boys.

(36:29):
That she is a pedophile herself, she wasn't convicted of that.
She's convicted as a sex offender and in sex trafficking,
but not in actually the molestation or rape of children.
They say that she should have been and that there's
no way in hell that this monster should be given

(36:50):
anything anything approaching a pardon or a commutation. Do you agree?
And the ultimate question, do you believe Trump is in
the Epstein files and is that the reason why he
is refusing to release them? And not even so much

(37:10):
that he's in the files in that he's guilty of
anything wrong, but because he knew Epstein many years ago,
his name will be mentioned, whether he took a flight
with him, whether they had dinner at mar A Lago,
whether they ran into each other, whatever it may be.

(37:30):
And that Trump just doesn't want his name affiliated or
associated with Epstein in any way, shape or form, and
that's why he's holding back on releasing the Epstein files.
Is that the reason why I'm just curious and ultimately
should the files be completely released? Six one seven two

(37:56):
six six sixty eight sixty eight is the number? Okay,
very very quickly. Speaker Mike Johnson was asked about the
Jolaine Maxwell interview and is there a pardon in the
works for Jolaine Maxwell. Listen now to speaker Mike Johnson.

(38:21):
Roll cut thirteen.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
Mike, Mister speaker, the victims referred to Maxwell as Epstein's
right hand woman. Here's what one victim who testified under
a pseudonym told the court at sentencing. Quote, the many
acts that were perpetrated on me by Epstein, including rape, strangulation,
and sexual assault, were never consensual and would not have

(38:44):
occurred had it not been for the cunning and premeditated
role Glaine Maxwell played. Is that someone deserving of a
pardon or commutation in any circumstance mister.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
Speaker, if you're asking my opinion, I think twenty years
was a pittance. I think she have a life sentence
at least. I mean, think of all these unspeakable crimes
and as you noted earlier, probably a thousand victims. I mean,
you know, this, this is it. It's hard to put
into words how evil this was, and that she orchestrated
it and was a big part of it. Uh, at

(39:16):
least inner under the criminal sanction I think is an
unforgivable thing. So again, not my decision, but I have
great pause about that, as as as any reasonable person
would you.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Know, it's always he you know, would kill him to
speak in a more direct, forceful way. But anyway, the
point is a valid one, you know, but it's always
so loyally the way he speaks. But anyway, let that go. No,
there should be no pardon, of course, not a woman's
an absolute evil monster. But this is what gets my goat.
And you tell me if you agree or disagree. Six

(39:48):
one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Now
the media are foaming at the mouth. Now they're demanding
justice for the victims. Right now, it's all you know,
this was on meet the mess so you know now
it's all you know, Kirsten Welker, and like you're not

(40:12):
considering a pardon, are you? These are victims? How dare
you insult the victims? Where were you under Biden? Where
were you under Joey? Where were you under Obama? Where
were you during Trump's first term? That's what I find disgusting.

(40:33):
You never gave a damn about Jeffrey Epstein. You never
gave a damn about the victims. The media was silent
about it. In fact, I know they mocked us. They
mocked conservatives, they mocked Trump's supporters because we were the

(40:53):
ones that kept demanding justice for the victims. We were
the ones that kept saying Epstein at the epicenter of
a global sex trafficking network in which young underage girls
and boys were being sexually traded, molested, abused, and exploited.

(41:14):
And they laughed at us, Oh, these are crazy conspiracy cooks.
They mocked us, and so Obama covered it up. Loretta Lynch,
his attorney general, covered it up. She didn't release the
Epstein files. They were protecting the victor, the predators in

(41:38):
under Biden. Biden covered it up. Mary Garland covered it up.
They all covered it up. It was Trump, to his credit,
who said we're going to release the files. It was
Pam Bondi, if you remember who initially said, right, remember,
I have the files. They're on my desk, they're being reviewed.

(41:59):
We're going to release all of them. She was the
one who gave out remember those binders early on in
the administration, to all of these top MAGA podcasters and
influencers and talk radio hosts. Here's what we have on
Epstein so far. Phase one. Phase two is to come. Now.

(42:19):
She reversed herself to me, she broke a seminal promise. Okay,
but that's something different. My point is Trump made an
issue out of it. Bondi made an issue out of it.
MAGA made an issue out of it. We were the
ones who were demanding justice for years and years and

(42:40):
years and years. The only reason why the Democrats now
and the media are even discussing it is because they
sense a political angle. They sense a potential political opportunity
to go after Trump. And if you remember, that's what

(43:01):
I warned him about. I said, don't do it, mister president.
Whatever's in those files, it's not worth it. Because now
the media is gonna say, what's the covering up? What's
the cover up? Why not release the files? There must
be something there? And now for how many weeks, literally,
I'm talking weeks, it's wall to wall coverage on Epstein

(43:28):
twenty four to seven, and they're just repeating the same
thing over and over. I'm like, how could you say
the same thing? Ho'm like over and over. I mean,
I'm gonna shoot myself watching these people. But so they're
trying to turn this into Trump's Watergate. And here's where

(43:51):
I think they really, I'm telling you, they're shooting themselves
in the foot. They are making such a big mistake
over this because the more or they keep demanding the
files be released, eventually the files are going to be released.
In other words, Okay, you want it, you're gonna get it,
and they're gonna have nothing on Trump. But it's gonna

(44:16):
be top Democrat after top Democrat after top democrat. If
Bill Clinton alone is exposed as having gone to Epstein
Island and having engaged in illicit, illegal sexual activity with
underage girls, He's going to jail. And this is going

(44:39):
to damage the Democratic Party for generations to come. You
start talking some of the other names that are on
that list. You know what this is Trumps arrangement syndrome
on steroids, because now they're the ones. They're the ones
who are demanding that the list be released. And when

(45:00):
the list comes out, it is going to burn the
Democratic Party to the ground. And a lot of people
online are speculating that this has been Trump's ploy the
whole time. You want to talk three D chess, this
was all three D chests. Oh, I know it's in
the files. Wink wink, You're not going to release the files?

(45:23):
Well why not. No, We're going to let the media
foam and foam and foam at the mouth. We're going
to get every Democrat to vote to release the files.
We're going to demand and make sure that Congress insists
on releasing the files, so if innocent people are damaged,

(45:44):
it won't come on us. It's going to be on
their heads. And then all of this will come out
at the instigation of the Democrats and the media, and
then they're going to have to report on the whole thing,
and when they do, the entire Democratic Party is going

(46:05):
to come crashing down. We'll see. But they have maybe
they have just overplayed their hand one more time six
one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Agree, disagree?
Let me ask you the Epstein files? Should they be released?

(46:30):
And is Trump in those files? Is that what he's hiding?
Or is the media and the Democrats are they now
overplaying their hand and now it's going to come back
and bite them six one seven two six six sixty
eight sixty eight. Craig in New Hampshire. Thanks for holding

(46:53):
Craig and welcome.

Speaker 6 (46:58):
Hey, I'm agreement with you on this. I've been saying
this right along that uh, that Trump is totally playing them.
It's the trip trip jip effect, where you know, he's
he's dated them into this, and how their constituents are
all out and clamoring to release these files. They think

(47:20):
they got Trump. The thing that I love, though, is
that nobody is seeing all the rest of the stuff
that's going on behind the scenes. I mean, he's he's
working on breaking the Fed, the Central Bank, There's so
much other stuff going on, and everybody's distracting with Epstein.
And when he said these are the building years, he's

(47:40):
he's playing them right like a fiddle.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Well yeah, you know, look Craig, look I understand the
legal reasoning that he, Pambondi, Cash, Ptel and others are giving,
which is Greg just a craig. Forgive me just to
give you an example. Uh, say, I gave a call
to Epstein for whatever reason, financial advice, whatever. Now I
haven't you know, I haven't slept with anybody. I haven't

(48:06):
diddled kids, I haven't done anything illegal or criminal. But
I mentioned in the files. I'm just as an example, right, Jeff.
Not that ever, I would never hang around with somebody
like Epstein, but I'm using this as an example. Jeff
Cooner called Epstein, picked up the phone. According to one
of the victims, she was waiting and Epstein said, wait,

(48:27):
I got a call from Jeff Cooner. Now Jeff Kooner's
name then, is in the files. Doesn't mean you've done
anything wrong. You just made a phone call, a business call, whatever.
So the point is the reason why you keep stuff
like this secret is that hundreds, if not thousands of
peoples of reputation, they're professional reputations, can be ruined and destroyed.

(48:49):
And in fact, you're opening up the government to massive lawsuits.
Say hey, hey, everybody thinks I was a pedophile. Everybody
thinks I was a part of it Epstein's network because
you guys released the files and my name was mentioned.
They don't distinguish between the fact that I just called
the guy for we talk business for fifteen minutes. They

(49:10):
think I went to Epstein Island
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