Trump, Putin and a possible peace deal

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
On Friday, Trump met with Vladimir Putin at the historic
Alaska Summit in Anchorage, and contrary to the lies, the smears,
the attacks in the Trump derangement syndrome media where no
matter what he does, all he does is get vilified

(00:21):
and attacked, it was an absolute master stroke. I'm gonna
go on the record now. I'm telling you right now,
what Trump was able to achieve on Friday was a
massive diplomatic breakthrough. Yes, there was no final deal, of course,

(00:42):
there was no cease fire. Yes, but what Trump achieved
potentially now is something even far more important, far more sustainable,
far more lasting, far more consequential. As President Trump rolled
out the red carpet and shook Vladimir Putin's hands, you

(01:05):
can see the atmospherics were already positive and there was
something building between the two men. After three hours of
direct face to face talks with Steve Witkoff, and this
is going to be very important now, Witkoff is emerging
as a key player. Special Envoy Steve Whitkoff with Trump,

(01:29):
Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, with Trump. There was Putin
with Lavrov, a foreign minister and his top political advisor.
Three on three. The negotiations went on for nearly three hours.
They came out of the meeting. Putin delivered a statement.

(01:50):
First Trump delivered his statement, and then, to the shock
of the media, they did not take a single question.
They both just walked away. Now the media stunned. They
were expecting at least an extensive Q and A. Everybody

(02:11):
had assembled now in Alaska, in Anchorage of the world's
media was there. They felt that it was an anticlimactic move,
that it was a massive letdown. But the real reason
is that Trump and Putin are now very close to
a potential deal, and rather than air out the specific

(02:34):
details for the world for the media, Trump immediately got
on the phone with Ukrainian leader Zelenski, and then he
got on the phone with the leaders of NATO, Britain's
Prime minister, France's President, Germany's Chancellor, the leader of the EU,

(02:56):
the Secretary General of NATO. And now he says he
wants to forget talking about a ceasefire. He wants to
take it right away to the next phase, which is
now a final summit to end the war in Ukraine completely.
In other words, forget talk of a ceasefire. He wants

(03:19):
now to hammer out the details of a peace deal,
a deal that would end the war. Now as I
talk so to me, just everybody knows where I stand
on this. It was an historic breakthrough. Trump is now
going all in on peace. He has gotten putin to

(03:43):
make significant concessions, and I'm going to get to this
in a second. The question now is can he get
Zelenski and can he get NATO to make the concessions
that they need to end the slaughter and the bloodbath.
Now as I speak to you now, because Trump moved

(04:05):
the ball so substantially in these talks behind the scenes,
Zelenski is flying to meet Trump today in the White House.
But it's not just the Ukrainian leader that's coming. It's
not just Midgetman, as I like to call him, cair Starmer,

(04:26):
Britain's Prime minister is coming, Macron Francis President is coming,
German Chancellor Friedrich Mertz is coming, Italian Prime Minister Georgia
Maloney is coming, The head of NATO is coming, the
President of Finland is coming, the head of the EU
is coming. In other words, all of the major European

(04:51):
NATO players are going to be there. With Zelenski meeting
Trump at a massive make or break meeting today in
the White House. Now this broke yesterday. Trump is already
pushing for a trilateral summit this Friday, August twenty second,

(05:17):
preferably in the White House, although the Europeans say they
want it somewhere in Europe. It doesn't matter the location.
Trump now wants to take it to the final face,
him as the mediator, and Putin and Zelensky meeting face
to face, where they will then negotiate the final details

(05:42):
and iron out a deal that will finally end the
worst bloodshed in Europe since the end of World War Two. Now,
what are the big concessions, the most important? And this
is what I am very worre worried about. And I
want everybody in Kooner country please please please stop what

(06:07):
you're doing. You need to listen now to what I'm
telling you. Please, I'm begging you. There are some concessions
that are being made by the Ukrainians and the Russians
that to me seem reasonable. At this point, three and
a half years into the war, over a million Russian

(06:28):
and Ukrainian civilians and soldiers dead, over a million dead
or maimed both sides combined. The slaughter must end for
the sake of both countries, for the sake of Europe, frankly,
for the sake of the peace of the world. Russia

(06:49):
is willing to give up some of the territory that
it has conquered in Ukraine in exchange, and now they've
laid it out. They want control of the entire don Bas,
which is that region all along eastern Ukraine. The key
region they want is Dnetsk. They have occupied about two

(07:10):
thirds of Dnetsk that borders the Russian uh It borders Russia.
It is full of mineral wealth, actually rare earth minerals.
It is a territory that historically was part of the
Russian Empire, and it is a territory that Putin claims
as historically part of Mother Russia. It is heavily ethnically Russian.

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It is heavily Russian speaking. The Ukrainians are now potentially
willing to seed the territory that Russia has already occupied
in exchange in exchange for security guarantees. If Europe, NATO,

(08:00):
and the United States are willing to guarantee Ukraine's new
borders and guarantee Ukraine's independence and sovereignty, into the future,
i e. Indefinitely permanently. Zelensky has now signaled behind the
scenes he can sell it to his people in Ukraine.

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Now the Europeans are all on board, the Brits, and
this has all been reported in the British media. The
Brits are already having soldiers ready to deploy to Ukraine
set up a military base to defend and protect Ukraine's
new borders. France says they will set up a military base.

(08:47):
NATO says they will put several bases in Ukraine to
defend this new Ukraine. Hey, this it may have only
eighty percent of its territory. Twenty percent will probably go Russia.
But this smaller Ukraine will now be backed by France, Italy,
Germany and Britain. The key question now, what will the

(09:13):
United States do? Listen now, to Trump's Special envoy Steve
Witkoff Roll cut thirteen.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Dan, we got to an agreement that the United States
and other European nations could effectively offer Article five like
language to cover a security guarantee. So Putin has said
that a red flag is NATO admission, and so what

(09:45):
we were discussing was assuming that that held, Assuming that
the Ukrainians could agree to that and could live with that,
and everything is going to be is going to be
about what the Ukrainians can live with. But assuming they could,
we were able to win the following concession that the

(10:06):
United States could offer Article five like protection, which would
which is the if, which is one of the real
reasons why Ukraine wants to be in NATO. We sort
of were able to bypass that and uh and get
an agreement that the that the United States could offer
Article five protection, which was the first time we had

(10:26):
ever heard the Russians agreed to that.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Okay, in plain English, as you know, Article five is
the heart of NATO, which says that an attack on
any member is considered an attack on all members and
then obligates every country to defend that member. Six one
seven two, six, six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay,

(10:50):
my friends, So as I speak to you now, this
is now what we the American people need to decide on.
Should the United States give a military security guarantee to
defend the borders of Ukraine. According to Steve Whitkoff, the

(11:14):
Special Envoy, and this is now being leaked now to
the American media, from other sources within the administration. President
Trump and Putin had a discussion at the Alaska Summit
on Friday, and Trump then said, Okay, Ukraine is very nervous,
very worried that if they are to give up territory

(11:37):
basically the eastern part of Ukraine don bas how do
they know that you are not going to attack them
again in a year or two or three or your
successor would you be open to security guarantees? Putin said yes,
not just the Europeans on defense pledging to defend Ukraine's borders,

(12:03):
or having a British military base or a French military base,
but American security guarantees that we would now guarantee these
new borders of Ukraine. It is something that Zelensky and
the globalists and the Europeans have been insisting on for

(12:27):
months and months and months. Now Here is my position,
and I want to hear from you. Six one seven
two six, six sixty eight sixty eight is the number
I've heard in a war. I've heard of this Obviously.
This often happens when two sides are fighting and both
sides are exhausted, even if one side. In this case,

(12:51):
the Russians have Essentially, I believe won the war at
least in the eastern part of Ukraine and are now
pushing hard to break through through Ukraine's defensive line. It
still takes two to compromise. In other words, the Russians
have to give up something and the Ukrainians have to

(13:11):
give up something. Both sides give, both sides take. But
what we're asking for now is that America compromise, that
we make concessions. In other words, we have to make
the all important concession because this involves us, our military,

(13:36):
our men and women, our security guarantee, our military, our
country is going to be on the hook for defending
Ukraine's borders if they go down this road of a
formal treaty with security guarantees, which now looks like it is. Now,
let me ask all of you, why do we have

(13:58):
to compromise end this war. We're not a co belligerent.
We didn't sign up with one country or the other,
one side or the other. So now this is in
Europe's backyard, It's not in our backyard. I'm just stating
a fact. And if the Europeans are worried about this

(14:19):
war potentially spreading or escalating, then yes, maybe the Europeans
should have some skin in the game. So let the
Brits underwrite the security of Ukraine. Let the French, let
the Germans, let the Poles, let the Fins. Fine, but
why should we the United States? Now? If I'm Zelanski,

(14:45):
I'm popping Champagne corks. As I told Grace yesterday in
the car as we were talking about this, after this
news came out, I'm telling you the Ukrainians should be
partying as I speak to you now, because this is
now for me, It's almost won them the war, because

(15:08):
what was the costs belli as they say, of the war.
What was the cause of the war. The cause of
the war was that Joe Biden, along with Zelensky, insisted
on pushing NATO right to Russia's doorstep. That was the
cause of the war. And Ukraine wanted to be admitted

(15:28):
as a member of NATO. Well, it doesn't matter that
it formally it's not going to be NATO. We all
know who's the ultimate backer of NATO. It's US. It's
the United States. It's not Croatia, it's not Denmark, it's
not a civil them who's now They're in NATO. With

(15:48):
all due respect. It's not Hungary, it's America. Now, what
they're going to get now is essentially a NATO war
guarantee without tech being in NATO. Well, I don't care.
Call it whatever you want. The fact of the matter
is our troops, our military, our country is now on

(16:10):
the line to now defend and protect the borders of
Ukraine for the next thousand years. That's not in America's
national interest. And here, let me put it to you
exactly the way I put it to my son Ashton,
because he got in on the conversation yesterday over dinner saying, Daddy,

(16:33):
you don't seem to be happy about this. I go, no,
I'm not happy about it, Ashton. And I'll tell you
why I'm not happy about it. I have a nephew
out in Tucson, Arizona, the son of my sister. He's
a wonderful kid kid. He's just turned nineteen years old. Actually,
I wished him a happy birthday over the weekend. He's
now going to join the Navy. He's now joining the military.

(16:58):
He's very patriotic, loves this country, wants to serve our country.
In fact, wants to have a career in the military. Okay,
First he was thinking Marines, then he said, maybe he's
a better fit for him. Whatever. To me, any branch
is an honorable, respectable way to serve our country. Is

(17:21):
it right? Is it just? Is it fair that potentially
Andrews's name, that Andrew would have to be deployed thousands
of miles away to protect the borders of Ukraine from
say a potential I don't know further Russian invasion or incursion,

(17:48):
say in two years or three years or four years.
Jeff Koner Boston's bulldozer six one seven two six, six,
sixty eight, sixty eight is the number. Okay, With talk
now rampant of Trump willing to concede a security guarantee,

(18:09):
a permanent military security guarantee to Ukraine in order to
get Zelensky to agree to a peace deal with Putin.
Listen now to Marco Rubio. He was on with Fox
yesterday with Maria Bartiromo, and he was asked specifically the
issue of security guarantees. We know Putin has said there

(18:34):
cannot be a NATO security guarantee, but Britain is willing
to provide one, France, Italy, Germany, Finland, there are multiple
European countries that are willing to step up to the plate.
The big question now, because this is the only one
that matters for the Ukrainians, is whether the Americans see,

(18:58):
as they call him, Americans, the big Americans. Will the
United States underwrite Ukraine's security and borders for the next
thousand years. Listen now to Rubio's response, Roll cut thirteen

(19:18):
A Mike.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Sorry, Dan, the end of the day, the truth of
the matter is that any security guarantee that the Europeans,
there's a lot they can do and a lot they
can offer, and it would be a huge concession. It
would be a very big move by the president if
he were to offer a US commitment to a security guarantee,
That'll be his decision to make. And I want people

(19:40):
to understand that that tells you how bad if he
does it. It tells you how badly he wants peace,
how much he values at peace, that he would be
willing to make a concession like that. But ultimately that'll
be a decision for the President to make. That's what
we'll talk about tomorrow. I'm sure we'll spend six seven
hours talking about these things, maybe more, and try to
get to a point where we have something more concrete.
We've done a lot of work on it already, but

(20:02):
a little some more work is required before we can
say that we have a plan on security guarantees that
unifies us.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
There you go, So basically the cats out of the bag. Now,
just again, I don't want to beat a dead horse,
but the Brits have already said they're going to give
Ukraine not only a security guarantee, they're going to put
British troops on the ground in Ukraine the moment that
deal is inked, Okay, should it get to Friday, which
will be the final meeting, the trilateral meeting between Putin,

(20:31):
Zolensky and Trump, and they agree now to a peace deal,
the Brits are already going to send troops on the
ground and they will establish a British military base. The
French Macran is now told the media ditto. France will
do the same. So but Zelensky says that Putin is
not scared of Britain or France, or Germany or Italy

(20:56):
or Finland or these other countries. What he feels and
what will really be act as a deterrent to any
potential Russian aggression is the fact that we will have
an American Air Force base, maybe even American troops based
in Ukraine, and the fact that we will be committed

(21:16):
to defending a Ukraine's borders should there ever be another
war between Russia and Ukraine. Now, that's what the Ukrainians want,
That's what Trump potentially now is on the verge of
giving them. That's what today's meeting essentially is all about.

(21:40):
How they can bolster security guarantees for Ukraine in order
them to get Europe and Ukraine to agree to exchange
Ukrainian territory to give it to Putin and then to
sign a deal. Now, I want to ask you six months,
two six, six, sixty eight, sixty eight is the number

(22:05):
this is now, as far as I'm concerned, the mother
of all questions. And Trump hasn't met with Zelensky. It's
gonna happen later today. He hasn't met with all of
these European leaders that are all going to be coming in.
They are coming in to show a united front to
Trump that for there to be a deal, they're willing

(22:28):
to secure Ukraine's borders without NATO. In other words, call
it by another name, you know, the big European powers
plus the United States. But it has to be, as
was said by Witkoff, an Article five style guarantee, meaning

(22:50):
an attack on Ukraine would be considered an attack on America.
An attack on Ukraine would be a consider an attack
on Britain or Fance. It would trigger an automatic military
response on our end. Trump says he is considering it,
he is willing to maybe make that leap for peace. Now.

(23:16):
I understand the temptation, I truly do. You look at
the bloodshed, you look at the slaughter, you look at
the death and destruction. It breaks your heart, it really does.
But I'm not talking about ending the war today. I'm
talking about what this commits our country to going into

(23:37):
the future. And I believe with every fiber in my
being that the globalists now are setting a trap for Trump,
that the Brits, the French, the Germans, the EU, NATO,

(23:57):
and of course Zelensky are now playing to Trump's humanitarian heart,
saying mister President, you are the only one that can
make peace. Only you, mister President. You sign security gear,
security guarante, and I will sign peace with Putin and

(24:22):
the killing ends, and you'll get Nobel peace price in fact,
Hillary Clinton has now come out and said that should
he end the war in Ukraine, she will personally nominate
him personally nominate him Trump to get the Nobel Peace Prize.
So you can see the globalists are itching itching for

(24:45):
him to give Ukraine that all important permanent military security guarantee.
It would be a fundamental betrayal of his campaign promise.
Remember what he said. First, he said no weapons to Ukraine,
but he said without question that we will never ever

(25:08):
commit of the United States to uphold, defend, and protect
Ukraine's borders. Why because then we are tied to Ukraine
for the next thousand years. Ukraine literally its name means borderland.
Its borders have shifted back and forth for over a

(25:33):
thousand years. Think about now that the danger in this
say we give a security guarantee just for the sake
of argument. Some Ukrainian paramilitary group goes along Dnetsk or
Luhansk or Khorsan or Zaparisia, those regions that Russia for

(25:57):
the most part now occupies, and they lob a couple
of missiles or a couple of bombs, killing Russian soldiers
in six months or a year, and then the Russians
retaliate and they cross the border. You know what that means?
According then, to this security guarantee, we are committed to

(26:20):
going to war against Russia to defend Ukraine. No way,
no way. Now I've heard of Russia having to make concessions. Yes,
I've heard of Ukraine having to make concessions. Yes, I

(26:41):
can even understand Europe having to make concessions because it's
literally in their backyard. Yes, but what the hell do
we have to make concessions? What is this going to
do with us? We still can't even defend and protect
our own southern I know it's secure and sealed, but

(27:04):
we've got massive deportations we have to do. We've got
the threat of looming China. We're already protected. We're already
on the hook for South Korea. We're on the hook
for Japan, We're effectively on the hook for Taiwan. This

(27:25):
is a trip wire for a potential World War iree
against Russia. Mister President, I'm not asking you, I'm begging you.
No security guarantees by the United States for Ukraine. Let

(27:45):
the British pony up let, the French pony up let,
the Germans pony up let, the Italian's pony up. It's
their backyard, it's their continent, it's in their sphere of interest.
This is none of our business and it could be

(28:07):
the road to World War three that the globalists have
wanted from the very beginning. And so my question to
all of you, it's the all important question. I'm going
to be taking calls right after this break. Jeff Kooner,
Boston's bulldozer. Six one seven two, six, six, sixty eight,

(28:29):
sixty eight is the number, okay today? Following up obviously
on this historic summit between Trump and Putin and Alaska
on Friday now could be one of the most historic
days really in recent history, not just in the Trump presidency,
but maybe even in the twenty first century. Zelenski is

(28:52):
going to be meeting with Trump, but he's not going
to be alone. He will be joined by Britain's Prime Minister, France,
President Macron, Georgia Maloney of Italy, Frederick Mertz, the Chancellor
of Germany, the head of the EU, the NATO, NATO
Secretary General, the President of Finland. It's basically going to

(29:15):
be a high stake summit with the leaders of the EU, NATO,
and of course Zelensky as well, and on the table
is a piece deal that Trump believes he can get
putin to sign, and the Europeans and Zolenski are now
going to be asking the all important price that we pay,

(29:39):
which is a security guarantee, a permanent security guarantee for
Ukraine by the United States. And so the Kooner Country
Pole Question of the Day sponsored by Marios Marios Quality

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Should President Trump make a NATO Article five like security
agreement for the protection of Ukraine in order to broker

(30:24):
a peace deal that would end the war with Russia?
In Article five, again, an attack on one is considered
an attack on all. All countries are obligated to defend
that country that's attacked. So this wouldn't involve NATO. It
would involve the signatories to the treaty, which would be

(30:44):
the United States, Britain, France, Germany, Italy and Finland. But
the key player is US, obviously, So to even make
it clearer and crisper, should President Trump make a permanent
security guarantee to Ukraine in order to broker a peace

(31:05):
deal ending the war? In Russia. You know where I stand.
Hell no, but I want to hear from you. Ayes
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There all one word at the Kooner Report, kuh and
as a national er Kuner country, I want to hear
from you today. I want the President's people to hear

(31:52):
from you because the decision they make today and later
this week will affect us, in particular for hundreds of
years to come. This will be one of the most
important security guarantees if we do do it, that we
will ever issue to any country, and it will be

(32:14):
absolutely monumental. So please, if you're for it, tell me why.
If you're against it, tell me why Trump's people are listening.
If you can vote, vote, and I think I'll even
ask the poll question a second time because I just
think it's that important. Okay, lines are loaded six one

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seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Angelo in Rockland,
You're gonna kick us off. Angelo, Thanks for holding and welcome.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Good morning, Jeff. Yeah, this is very This is extremely complex,
and one thing we can't forget. We are Americans, and
during the Biden administration, the dog's tail was between its
legs running away. We're Trump in power, where the dog again,

(33:09):
and we do not run away. We stand tall and
we do the right thing we have to do. I
don't believe that caremea these people. Yeah, I think it's
kind of like they're trying to set us up. But
in reality, we're not backing down. We're Americans and we
have to hold forth. But I would stand behind Europe.

(33:33):
They're gonna hold the line. If he gets aggressive. Putin
gets aggressive in the future, then we have to stand
up because we're gonna get involved, whether we sign that
or not. We just can't let Putin take over like that.
It won't happen whether we sign it or not. The
grimmer reality is we have to face the fact that

(33:54):
we're not just gonna let that happen. So, being Americans,
we're gonna hold that flag. We're gonna march flowed and
do what we have to do. The greatest generation didn't
step up, we wouldn't be here today. And basically we're
almost facing the same thing. There's a million people dead.
Not a good scene. And I think thank god Trump's

(34:18):
president Putin said it in that speech, if you were president,
this war would have never happened. Well, the sad truth,
it happened, and we have to do what we have
to do. And whether we like it or not a
thing to say. And I'm a goalstop parent. My son's
in the navy, and I regret everything that ever happened.

(34:40):
Like you can't turn back the hands of time. But
it's patriots like my son and other people that have
stood up for this country. We're not backing down. And
that's what I have to say, Jeff. But one other
thing is with everything going on with these open borders
and stuff, we do have a lot of turmoil. And
I tried to get on last week. I got disconnected.

(35:01):
But anyway, I think the biggest threat here it's not
the Democrats. It's the Islamic radicals that are starting to
come in our country like Europe, and they're starting to
police their own neighborhoods.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Well, look, I gotta tell you Angelo, You're right. Look,
we have so many problems here at home. You mentioned,
you know, Islamic terrorists that have infiltrated our country, the
fifteen to twenty million illegals that Biden let in alone,
just under him, the gang bangers, the drugs, the cartels,

(35:40):
the criminals, the murderers, the rapists, and the Democrats putting
up this ferocious resistance to every time Ice will enter
a city or a neighborhood to try to arrest, detain
and deport them. We need to defend Ukraine like we
need a hole in the head. I'm just going to
be brutally honest with you. I know where you're coming from. Angelo,

(36:02):
and your son was clearly a great hero and a
great patriot, and I respect you tremendously to me. Look, Putin,
just stand back objectively. This idea that Putin is another hitler.
Putin can even take over Danetsk, like he's begging for

(36:23):
the Ukrainians to give that part that that region that
borders Russia. The Russians have conquered about two thirds of it,
but they haven't been able to get the last third,
and it's it's heavily fortified now, the third that's controlled
by the Ukrainian forces heavily fortified. It's a line of fortifications.
Every time the Russians try to move forward, they get

(36:44):
cut down. So this guy can barely take eastern Ukraine.
And by the way, over a million named or dead.
The Russian military is breaking at the seams. That's why
Putin is there making it with Trump. He wouldn't be
there making a deal with Trump if his army was

(37:04):
rolling across Ukraine. So my point is now, the Ukrainians
are exhausted as well, there's no question, and their army
on the front line is starting to really fracture. It's
starting to crack. And I'm gonna get into that a
little bit later in the show. But the Russian military
is corrupt, It's shown itself to be incompetent. Its aura

(37:28):
is gone. This has set Russia back a generation. Its
economy is in chaos. There's Russian mothers now who are grieving.
God knows how many sons that are dead. Russia has
been profoundly weakened by this war. In fact, both Russia

(37:49):
and Ukraine, it has been a disaster for both countries. Like, really,
I'll be honest with you, at the end of the day,
I look at if I'm just to score this, okay,
say that, you know, to Putin, was it really worth it?
I mean, I understand you had your redline about NATO.
I get that, but is it really worth it? How

(38:11):
many lives you lost, the cost to Russia, to your military,
to your economy, to your people. You're lucky if you
come back after twenty twenty five years to the Ukrainians,
was it worth it? Pushing ahead with NATO enlargement, getting
into NATO? Was it worth it? So it's a that's

(38:36):
why to me, if either leader has an ounce of
common sense and frankly decency to end the slaughter, sign
the damn deal. Just sign the deal, man. And if
I'm Ukraine Zelenski with Britain, France, Italy, Germany backing me militarily,

(38:59):
arming melilitarily, and Putin said he's going to allow the
rest of Ukraine that eighty percent that they keep to
join the EU take the deal. But no, he wants
America because he knows there could be He's itching. The
Ukrainians will be itching to get that land back, and

(39:21):
the Russians are always going to be trying to push forward.
That's the nature of that area, that that territory. But
now with the Americans right in the middle and back
in Ukraine on treating by a treaty. We have to
back them militarily. Ukraine will say, hey, hey, the Americans
will get us our land back. We could. We'll fight

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the Russians eventually in a couple of years, and this
time we'll have Uncle Sam do the fighting, the dying
and the bleeding. We should get out, just walk away. Trump,
I used to make peace. If both sides don't want
to make peace, sorry, no security guarantee, then the dyings

(40:08):
on you. The blood's on your hands. Angelo. We are
so overstretched as is to me. I'm telling you I
could be wrong. MAGA will not support Trump on this issue,
not saying they're going to abandon the president. They're not.
I will never abandon the president. But if he comes

(40:30):
out and says we're giving a security guarantee to Ukraine,
I'm against it. Angelo. Thank you very much for that call.
Just my opinion. Six one seven two six six sixty
eight sixty eight is the number. Maureen in Wooburn. Thanks
for holding marine and welcome.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
Hi, thank you jessin taking my call. I just want
to bring up something that no one's talking about that
I'm sure President Trump is thinking about minerals deal. You know,
the minerals deal in Ukraine minerals that we desperately need
trying to recoup some of that money. Yes, I think
he's taken that into consideration too. You know, we don't
know what's going to happen as far as a deal,

(41:14):
whether there's going to be a deal or not. I
just wish that we could just wait to see what
happens before we start bashing him because he makes a
policy decision that we don't agree with. The poor man.
I mean, if you magro all the way, all right,
we all think for ourselves. We might disagree with a
policy decision, but you disagree respectfully. But instead we end

(41:35):
up bashing him. And I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Why can't you do you think I'm bashing him?

Speaker 5 (41:42):
Yeah, we dashed him all the time. And every policy,
everything that everything that he does, he gets attacked for.
It doesn't matter if you're talking about the economy, you know,
and pricing going down. You know, people I think expect
because we win, he wins so much, and he works
hard at that to do that. Joh, you know, but

(42:02):
you know it's always you know that day that we
were talking about, you know, pricing going down, there's always
people that call and say, well, it's not fast enough.
Well it's not this. Well it's not that to get
it to that point. I mean, you don't snap your
fingers and the things happen overnight. You know, it takes
it takes time to get to that point.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Oh I agree you no, no, marine, Look I agree.
And my position, as you know, on the economy is
I think he's doing incredible. I'm the one that says
I'm noticing prices again. I've tanked up over the weekend.
Gas is going down. There's no question gases going down.
And I don't mean by a few cents here or there.
It's much lower. Inflation now is two point seven percent.

(42:43):
There was nine nine percent under Biden. The stock market
now is at an all time high, all time high.
We have trillions of dollars in foreign investment pouring into
the United States. I mean, I could go on and on. No,
and if it comes across like I'm bashing Trump, quite
the opposite. I thought his summit with Putin, as I said,

(43:05):
was a master stroke. I thought it was, frankly a
brilliant summit. I'm not bashing Trump at all. All I'm
saying is please, As I said, mister president, no security guarantees.
I didn't vote for this. Not attacking the guy. What
I'm doing is I'm trying to urge him not to
fall for what I believe is a trap set for

(43:27):
him by the globalists, frankly by Rubio. If you want
to know the truth, Rubio is the one that's really
pushing this behind the scenes. J. D Vance's dead set
against it. I'll tell you this. Bannon is against it,
most Maga are against it. But Rubio is pushing this hard.
The State Department is pushing this hard. The Europeans and

(43:49):
NATO are pushing this very hard. And Zelensky has told Trump,
you want my price. This is my price. I'll give
putin the territory that he's conquered. I'll sign it away
if I have to, But I want an American security guarantee.
That's my price. You want my price, here it is.
And my only point is for me, that price is

(44:11):
way too high, because now you're not just gambling with
Ukrainian lives as he has now, you're potentially gambling with
American lives, and for me, American lives trumps everything else,
and that even is more even than any president. I
don't care if this was George Washington, and to me,

(44:33):
George Washington is the greatest president we ever had. You
don't give a security guarantee to a country that is
that far away, that is that insignificant to our national interest,
whose borders have shifted again and again and again for

(44:55):
twelve hundred years. We are asking for trouble, and we're
gonna get trouble. Ukraine's price is too high. That's my
only point. Now what scares me, and again this is
not an attack on Trump is He's spoken about this

(45:16):
repeatedly that he looks at the satellite pictures of these
dead Russian and Ukrainian boys, these dead so these dead soldiers,
the Ukrainian civilians slaughtered, the families decimated, the babies, the
children killed, and he just it breaks his heart. And

(45:38):
so they're tugging at his heart strings. And by the way,
they're also trying to play to his vanity. That's why
you add, by the way, Hillary has wanted Ukraine in
NATO forever. Hillary has wanted us to defend Ukraine because
she wants a war with Russia. Now they're telling now
the Left is saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just give

(45:59):
the security guarante he and will nominate you for the
Nobel Peace Prize. So they're tugging at his heartstrings, they're
playing to his vanity. They're doing everything they can. All
they want is that security guarantee because they know Marine,
once that deal is inked and we are now permanently

(46:21):
committed to Ukraine's defense, we are down the road to
war with Russia. Not today, maybe not tomorrow, but within
our lifetime, guaranteed, guaranteed. Even if Putin doesn't want war
with us, we don't know who his successor is going
to be. I know that part of the world. Stay

(46:46):
out of it. It's a snake pit. That's my advice
to Trump. Now, nothing has been agreed to. That's why
I'm urging the audience to call in. I'm urging the
audience to vote on the pole because i want Trump
to hear from his supporters, whether they want him to

(47:07):
do it or not. He will take into account if
this is popular with his voters, and that's why I'm
pushing this issue as hard as I can. But please, Marine,
make no mistake about it. I'm not attacking Trump. I'm
not criticizing Trump. I am respectfully urging him to say
no to those that are pressuring him to give a

(47:30):
security guarantee to Ukraine. And the last thing I would
say is this the mineral rights that Ukraine Zelenski signed
over to Trump. Almost all of that is occupied by
the Russians, all of those rare earth minerals that you know,
technically we signed a deal with Ukraine, that's all under

(47:52):
the feet of the Russian military. I mean a little
a few exceptions, but for the most part, the Russians
can that that's gonna give Ukraine an incentive in a
couple of years to try to get it back, which
means attacking Russia or attacking those Russian positions. And now

(48:14):
we're committed if we signed a security guarantee to defend Ukraine.
Either way, whatever is in Ukraine is not worth the
bones of a single American soldier. That's just my opinion. Marine.
Thank you very much for that call. Six one seven.

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But please, this is not an attack on Trump. This
is me if this is me calling him on the
phone essentially saying I love you, man, Please don't sign it.
Not with these security guarantees. Don't put the United States
on the hook for this. It's short term gain. Yes,

(48:55):
but it's gonna be long term pain two six six
sixty eight sixty eight. Again just my opinion. You may
disagree six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight.
George and Rowley, thanks for holding, George, and welcome.

Speaker 6 (49:16):
Okay, Jeff, what I want to say is, I think,
no matter what, we're going to get drawn into it.
If something of a happens that they try to take
the whole place, I say, you throw the ball back
in the globalist court and.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
Have Congress approved, in the.

Speaker 6 (49:34):
And the Senate whatever, take the burden off the Trump
and then let's a god's following tonight.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
I love it. You read my mind. That's exactly what
I was thinking over the weekend. I said, you know what,
if we're going to commit ourselves to guaranteeing Ukraine's borders
and security and independence and sovereignty, okay after this deal,
because they're going to change Ukraine's borders in this deal,
then Congress needs to vote on it. And I agree

(50:07):
with you, then it's no longer Trump's decision. It's then
the decision of the American people through their representatives. And honestly,
I think it's the right thing to do, not just
I think, honestly, I think Congress will vote it down.
I could be wrong, but whether I'm right or wrong,
it doesn't matter. We deserve the American people to have

(50:30):
a say whether our troops should fight and die for
Ukraine in any future war. At a minimum, let the
Senate vote on it. I would rather have both the
House and the Senate vote on it. And you're right,
then it's no longer in his hands. It's in the
people's hands and the hands of Congress. George Great idea

(50:53):
six one seven two six, six sixty eight. Sixty eight
is the number