Trump Senior Advisor Mark Lotter Chats with The Bulldozer

Episode Transcript

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We're broadcasting live from the Republican NationalConvention here in Milwaukee, and honestly,
we're bringing in now all the bigguns. I know the lines are jammed,
Please hold on. You're going towant to listen to this interview.
It is truly my distinct honor andpleasure. We are now joined by Mark
Lauder. He is the director ofStrategic Communications for the Trump campaign, obviously

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a senior political advisor. He doesthe tough interviews. You've probably seen him
on This is CNN. You've seenhim on CNN, MSDNC, all of
the liberal left wing media outlets.Mark, true, honor and pleasure.
Great to be with. You.Just want to make one clarification. I
was the director of strategic communication intwenty I'm on the outside now just helping

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out. Oh so you're just soyou're more like a senior advisor. Yeah,
all right, that's good. Okay, sort of like a Carl Rove
type. Yeah, okay. Iwish I don't have a book named boy
Genius after me. Mark. I'vegot to ask you, my friend,
last night jd Vance brought the housedown. I'm going to ask you the

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same question I asked Caroline Sunshine I'dlove to get your react to it.
Are we now witnessing a new RepublicanParty under Trump, a populist party,
a nationalist party, a more workingclass party? And are we now seeing
a new electoral coalition similar to theNew Deal being born right in front of

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our eyes? Yes, you alittle morek Look, we saw it happening.
We saw it happening when I wasin the White House in twenty seventeen.
We saw it happening in twenty twenty. We see it now on steroids.
And I think it's because not onlydid Donald Trump open doors to new
coalitions, whether it was in theBlack community, the Hispanic community, labor
union workers, not their leadership,but the workers, the people who do

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the work for a living, overand over again. We're seeing it now.
Young people are coming on board,and I think Joe Biden, because
of his incompetence, has kicked thedoor wide open and Donald Trump is running
through it. The thing I loveabout JD. Vans is he can go
into a swing state, He cango into a group of undecided voters and

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go I get it. I wasone of you as well in twenty fifteen.
In twenty sixteen, I had somevery critical things to say about Donald
Trump. But then I looked athis record in office. I looked at
Joe Biden's record in office. Ilook at their plan to actually make our
country great again, to help theeconomy, to secure the border, and

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I came over. He won meover, and if you just give him
a chance, come on in thewater's fine. Well that's a great point,
Mark, that's a great point.Mark. I've got to ask you.
We mentioned this all because, asyou know, Biden is now imploding,
Schumer is now a leaked, He'scome out against them, HAKM.

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Jeffries has come out against them.Now everyone's waiting for Pelosi to potentially drop
the hammer. Why did Biden makewhat is now clearly an historic bad decision,
an historic mistake, and to havethat debate with Trump on so early
on June twenty seventh, Why didhe do it? Mark? Well,

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I must say it was a hailMary. And we were joking about this
off the air as well. I'moriginally from Indianapolis. Please do not hold
that against me, but you know, for some of our epic battles.
But look, he calls the hailMary because he was losing already he was
losing on the policy, he waslosing nationally, he was losing in all
the battleground states. Their campaign neededa reset, and they were hoping that

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a Tom Brady or a Peyton Manningin my case, would throw the Hail
Mary touchdown, and they ended upthrowing a pick six. I mean,
that's how bad that debate was.So they just made it worse, and
now you add all of this otherstuff on top of it. But the
problem is it's not going to Ithink Democrats are misreading this. It's not
going to get better with Kamala Harrisor Gavin Newsom or a Governor Whitmer or

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anyone else, because none of themare going to change the policy. It's
not like Kamala Harris is going tosuddenly stand up and say, drill,
baby, drill, I want lowergas prices, or let's get tough on
the border and secure the border,or I support Israel and I'm against Tomas.
I mean, the policies of JoeBiden, which the American people have
largely rejected, are the same policiesthat Kamala, Gavin, Gretchen whomever.

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They're going to do the same thing, just going to put a new name
on the ticket, so they're stillgoing to be losing. You don't fear
anybody else. In other words,if they do replace Joe Biden, is
there anyone out there that you feelcan give Trump a run for his money?
Well, I mean a side whichwe all know is not going to
happen. She's been very clear ofit, like a Michelle Obama, who

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is obviously, you know, veryhighly regarded across party lines and revered.
And I would say for good reason, even though I disagree with her politically.
So aside from that, Democrats,she and her office have been very
clear she's not doing that. Soof their current roster, they're still going
to be stuck with Joe Biden's policiesbecause it is the policy of the Democrat

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Party. And I don't know ifit matters who puts their name on the
ballot. Now, if I wasadvising Kamala Harris, and I said this
yesterday, I think it was onCNN and made even the host not an
agreement. She's not going to listento me, by the way, but
if she were to listen to me, I would tell her not to do
it. Why take the l whycome into a campaign in August, where

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you're going to have to rebuild theorganization, rebuild all the branding, try
to rebuild your coalitions in one hundredand some days, where you're going to
have money challenges because there are issueswith this money, and you're already losing.
You're starting from behind. If JoeBiden loses this election, no one's

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blaming Kamala for it. But ifthey throw you in there and you lose
the election, that l is onyour record and you're done. You do
not have another future. That's brilliant. So let Joe Biden stick on the
ballot, take the loss. Shecan always then claim well, if they
would have moved and for me justfour years to run in twenty twenty eight,

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that's a brilliant point. Mark,I've got to ask you, it
looks now like the writing is onthe wall that Biden is probably going to
be overthrown in some way, shapeor form, or pushed to step aside.
So the so called self proclaimed defendersof demoocracy are going to are going
to ditch democracy because it's politically inconvenientthrough a coup. Right, Okay,
just a word of Mark, isit probable? I mean, are you.

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In other words, you and thecampaign are you anticipating by now being
step stepping aside or do you thinkthe old stubborn fool is going to cling
to the bitter end? You know, I really don't know. I mean
you would think that he mean,they had these conversations, according to the
reporting over the weekend prior to theassassination attempt against Donald Trump, and he
goes out to Las Vegas before hecontracts COVID, and I hope he recovers

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fully and wish him well on that. But he still doubled down in Vegas
and said I am your nominee,I am the president, I am your
candidate after those conversations took place overthe weekend, allegedly, So I don't
know if he's still getting it now. The people that I talk to,
the folks that I listened to andhere on the cable news networks are all

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saying but he's signaling quietly that hemight be open to it, that they're
polling on it. He wants tosee that Kamala could find a way to
win before he makes that decision.The clock is ticking, dude, I
mean the clock is ticking, andI just don't know how long you can
keep going down this path, butI am more than happy to let them

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do it. Boy. Yeah,I love to see how cheery you are,
how optimistic, upbeat you are.I mean, you're really supremely confident.
I take it well. I mean, look, I'm also a professional
political operative, and so I'm notgoing to be comfortable until the day after
the election's over. But look,the map is growing. It's where I
live currently in Virginia outside of DC. Now New Hampshire is in play,

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Minnesota, New Mexico, I've heardeven Colorado might suddenly be in play if
that's true. And New Jersey andpossibly even New York. There's only two
things in a campaign. You neverhave enough of money and the candidate's time.
Every dollar and every minute he hasto spend or she in Virginia,
in New Hampshire, in Minnesota,in Colorado, in New Mexico is a

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minute and a dollar they can't spendin Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan and the
Sun Belt states. Who was They'vealready pretty much written off. That's not
a good map for them. Thirtyseconds left, Mark, I'm just curious,
what's your prediction right now? DoesTrump win and does he win in
a landslide? I believe he wins. I'm not going to predict a landslide

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until i can see it, butit's the map is in his favor and
he has the potential right now.Even on CNN they said that he could
easily get to three hundred and thirtyelectoral College vote. Wow, which would
be more than he got in twentysixteen. Wow. Okay, we have
been talking. You got to comeback on the show, my trad I'm
happy to do it. We've beentalking with Mark Lauder, director of strategic

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communications for the twenty twenty Trump campaign. I'm really happy all of you got
to hear Mark Lauder, a seniorpolitical advisor to Donald Trump, former head
of these strategic communications for the Trumpteam. You get a sense of what
they're thinking on the inside, andhow they're looking at the electoral map,

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and how states that were not inplay before or not in play or now
in play, and how they areexpanding the map almost on a daily basis.
You can see now they are brimmingwith confidence and optimism. And what
you heard from Mark is what I'vebeen hearing from other top people close to
Trump all week long six one seventwo, six, six, sixty eight

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sixty eight. Andy in Milford,Thanks for holding Andy, and welcome.
Hey Jeff. How are you doing. I'm doing great. How are you
Andy? I'm doing very well.I want to make two points about whether
Joe Biden stays out Joe Biden goes, but go ahead. Before they do

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that, I just want to commentvery quickly that the nvy you've been experiencing
from some of the other conservative talkorbit they're in Milwaukee, about the quality
of your listener and following around thecountry. Yes, they need to understand

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one important point and that is thatthe key ingredient to your success is you
are not for sale to these sociopathicoverlords that have bought a number of other
conservative talk radio voices and media personalitiesin the conservative orbit. Thank you.

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You have no idea how much thatmeans to me. Andy, Thank you
so much, Thank you my friend. Please go ahead. I don't want
to. I know you want tosay stuff about Joe Biden. Please to
floor is yours? Go ahead?Andy? Okay, Now I think I
think one thing. I think justnot to miss the forest through the trees.

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The Bidens still very much hold alot of the cards in this thing,
because, as we as has beendiscussed in Kooner Country, the delegates
and super delegates are pledged to JoeBiden. The other thing, and this
has been in the back of mymind for quite some time, Jeff,

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is that all of the Biden's corruptions, their dirty business dealings, their play
to play, all of it.There's no way these top Democratic leaders and
power brokers don't have their hands dirtyfor that situation. And if ever the

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Biden family, I mean the wholefamily, Joe Biden, Joe Biden,
Hunter, Frankie, the whole familyever decides it's in their interest to just
sing like a bunch of canaries aboutall of that, they're all going down.
Man. Well, to be honest, I think that's the reason why

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he's still clinging to power. Ithink, Andy, I think you really
put your finger on it. Imean, you know, yeah, they
have a lot of dirt on him, yes, but it's like mutual blackmail.
You know. I forget who putit, but you know who phrased
it, but someone said, youknow, essentially, Biden is now taking
the Democratic Party hostage, and he'sholding a you know, the proverbial gun

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to their heads, and he's saying, Okay, you want to take me
down, but I'm going to takeyou I'm going to blow up the whole
party. I'm going to take youguys down with me, because yeah,
they know where the bodies are buriedwith him and skeletons in his closet and
his crime family. But he knowswhere Obama's bodies are buried, and the
Clinton's bodies are buried, and NancyPelosi's bodies are buried. And that's why

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when he says I'm not going anywhere, they don't have that much leverage.
And look, Andy, I gottabe careful. I never want to be
blasphemous, Okay, I really don't, and I don't want to be presumptuous.
But everybody's talking about the hand ofGod, and Trump convinced that God
saved him with that assassination attempt.If Biden manages to stay on the ballot

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as the nominee again, I don'twant to speak for God. Please,
I almost don't want to say whatI'm about to say. I'm looking at
this almost like, boy, youwant to talk about the hand of God.
He's the perfect guy. Now forTrump to run against It's it's like
it's like setting up a domino board. Biden goes down, they lose the

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presidency, they they lose the Senate, They're gonna lose dozens of seats in
the House. We're talking about apolitical landslide for the Ages. That's why
the Dems are freaking out. Schumeris telling him to go. Hakim Jeffries,
Adam Schiff, The New York Times, the CNN, they're not telling

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him to go because they think he'sgonna win six one seven two, six,
six, sixty eight, sixty eight. We're broadcasting a lie from the
Republican National Convention here in Milwaukee.And to be brutally honest, a major
reason is because of this man thatwe have on right now. He is
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you so much. I know wehad you on yesterday for a few minutes,
but I wanted you on again today. Thank you again for coming on

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the Kuner Report. Thanks for havingme on. You guys are your audience
has given us great support by myemployee owned company has been attacked brutally for
the last few years, and we'revery grateful for your audience. Mike,
Look, I'm gonna be brutally honestwith you. I'm speaking from the heart
now, like I'm in the confessional. There are very few people with the

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kind of with your kind of gutsand courage. Nobody's gone out on a
limb regarding the stolen election as youhave. Very few people, and you're
right, twenty twenty was stolen andthere was rampant voter fraud and most people
know it, but they're not afraidto say They're afraid to say it.
You are not afraid, Mike.I want to I wanted two quick thoughts

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or two quick points, and Iwant to get your reaction. This is
now ultra mainstream media. Hey,we're not talking fringe websites. AOL dot
com has now come out with thisstory. I just want to read you
the headline now. It's Schumer,Hakeim Jeffries, and shit Adam Schiff have

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now called for Biden to step down. In fact, they told him to
his face he cannot win. Hemust go. This is now the absolute
latest breaking everywhere. I want toread it to you. Nancy Pelosi and
Joe Biden had a tense phone callthat escalated into shouting at times. The

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conversation became heated as Pelosi insisted thedata showed Biden cannot defeat President Trump and
Biden needs to drop out. WhenBiden pushed back, Pelosi told him get
off the phone and put on hisadvisor, Mike Donalan, that's his top
political guy, so they could discussthe data. My question to you,

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Mike, can Joe Biden survive ordo you think his political days as the
nominee are numbered? Well, they'regoing to do everything they can to get
him out, because remember what theystole an election this time around, with
the way the polling is, it'sanother ten million votes they would have to
somehow steal from Donald Trump and theway and you. But There's another component

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you have to have, and that'sthe fake news media and these fake polls
saying, you know, they're pollingeven Just the other day, I think
there was a Fox put out ofthings saying, oh, they're polling even
now or you know, and thenso you have to you have to,
you know, basically give these fakepolls to the public so they might even
believe that it could happen. Sothen when they steal it, you go,

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well, you know, the pollsaid this. I'll give an example,
Wisconsin in twenty twenty, they putthe polls out there at fifty Donald
Trump was fifteen points down where we'reat right here in Milwaukee, fifteen points
down. Well, the other pollingwe did and that we that trusted poles
had them even. And so assoon as in and they steal with they

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steal Wisconsin and then the uh theyby it was like one percent. So
then the general public goes, wow, he made a great effort, fifteen
points down in the polls and lookat he uh he only lost by one.
If you follow me, you haveto convince the public that or that
this theptom an election could happen.So and so he couldn't even what Pelosi's

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telling him is you can't even wineven with our cheating. That there's your
there's your answer. That's incredible,Mike. I just if you don't mind,
I want to because nobody knows thestolen election and the voter fraud machine
and the apparatus that they put inplace in twenty twenty almost better than you.
So I've got to ask you.We've got about how much time left,
Mike. Two minutes? Okay,so two minutes, Mike, why

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won't they steal it again? Inother words, if they were able to
do it in twenty twenty, whynot steal it again? In other words,
if they need ten million, twelvemillion, fifteen million, right just
manufactured votes, why not right there? No, they're going to try,
and that what we've got, We'vegot a lot of things in place we
didn't have in place back then.I have teams on I have three hundred

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thousand people in all fifty states.But we've got we've got a plan.
We're telling everybody, request your mailin ballot, hang on to it,
don't open it, and when yougo into vote, if they say you've
already voted, you go No,I have not here is my ballot,
and this plan's laid out at Lyndellplan dot com. We also have remembered
the deviations that they're going to haveto show is going to be a lot

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worse than twenty twenty. If theytry to do this right, It'd be
like this in Wisconsin if they said, you know, Biden wins three million
to Donald Trump's one million, Welleverybody would know that would be impossible.
There's going to be impossible deviations thatcome out if they try and do the
same thing they did in twenty twenty. But we've got all kinds of stuff

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in place that but people need toget involved, and that's at Lyndell plan
dot com. And uh, youknow they're going to try the ultimate goal
here everybody. As we get throughthis election, we've got to go like
our we can, Yeah we can, we can, you know, yeah,
we can impose election integrity and cleanup all the fraud and cheating.
Mike, I'm sorry, I'm upagainst it. We got to go.

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The show's coming to an end.You're an American hero. You're a great
American Mike. Thank you so much. God bless you. Thanks for having
me. God bless you. Takecare, take care to the audience.
I love you, Bye bye,