Trump vs. China

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, my friends, As you know it's Wednesday. You know
what that means. Seven to twenty Truth or Troll. Listen
now to Harry Anton on CNN about Trump's soaring poll numbers.
Take it away, Sandy.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
And now America's favorite game show where you get to
decide on the Kooner Report.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
This is Truth or Troll.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
So today's truth control is not President Trump. It's actually,
as you mentioned before, CNN data analyst Harry Anton. And
it's a little weird because he this is the forget
I want to repeat it. That's CNN and Harry Anton,
and he's saying that President Trump.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Is doing really, really well.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I think there was this concern among some folks that
Donald Trump would come in for a second term and
kind of be a lame duck. He ain't no lame duck.
If anything, He's a soaring eagle. What am I talking
about here? Let's talk about Trump executive orders. In twenty
twenty five, He's already signed one hundred and eleven so far.
That is the most at this.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
Point in a presidency and at least one hundred years.
In fact, it's the most in any single year. More
only in April since Harry S. Truman in the early
nineteen fifties.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
The bottom line is, whether you like Trump or you
don't like him, you can't say that he's comment and
not try to deliver on what he at least believes
was his promises on the campaign trail. And he's doing
so in historic fashion.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Wow, Now I'm suspicious because it's CNN. Does he mean it?
Or is he setting up President Trump for a fall?
Is this truth or is it true?

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Interesting? Sandy? Interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Look, According to CNN, they're saying Trump's approval numbers have
never been higher. Literally, they've never been higher, even with
the true aid war, even with the stock market now
taking out you know, was a beating, a bloodbath. Over
the last couple of days, Trump's approval numbers are actually
going up by four percentage points.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
So let me ask you, is CNN is this truth
or is it? Are they trolling?

Speaker 1 (02:19):
In other words, are they trying to artificially inflate Trump,
make it seem like, oh my god, he's a soaring eagle,
and then anticipating or hoping that his numbers are gonna
crater by exactly, you know, by uh, by artificially uplifting him,
and then setting him up now for a fall, or

(02:41):
do you think they really do believe that this guy
is soaring in the polls?

Speaker 3 (02:47):
A truth b troll.

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Speaker 1 (03:12):
In national Er. Dan in New Hampshire. Thanks for holding Dan,
and welcome.

Speaker 6 (03:19):
Thanks for taking the calls, Jeff Hi Dan. I think
what we're watching here is Trump taking down globalism single handedly.
What they've been doing in what our what our former
politicians have been doing for decades, is basically selling our
economy out. They've allowed all of these tariffs to begin.

(03:42):
They turn their back on them, these tariffs attaxes onto us.
They've basically been feeding off our prosperity for years. And
now we've got a champion. We've got somebody that's looking
out for us. It's going to take care of these tariffs.
We're going to have an equal play and feel we're
not going to have an economic imbalance like it's been

(04:03):
going on for decades. We were in a situation where
we were going to fail. Something drastically needed to be done.
Trump is I am so proud of him. I'm not
filled with anxiety a bit. I'm happier than hell that
he's doing this. This is what's been needed, this is
what's necessary. Yes, we're going to have a little bit

(04:25):
of pain, because let's face it, there's been a lot
more pain by them. Parasiteses been sucking on our backs
for years, and our country's allowed at the Congress, a
lot of these people with no balls have allowed this
to happen, and we're not only does Trump have a steel,
stainless steel spine, he's got brass balls, and he's taken

(04:46):
this country back and he's allowed our country to flourish
once again and be the lead dog on the block.

Speaker 7 (04:54):
The only thing I worry about, the only thing I
worry about is a conflict with Iran that China gets
into because it's got no economic way to turn, and
a potential problem with Russia because they're not easing up.

Speaker 6 (05:08):
But other than that fact, all I can say is
that we're making the absolutely right, absolutely right move, and
I'm very pleased and I'm happy, and I just we
just need to watch those three that I just mentioned
to make sure that you know, we keep them in place.
So I'm telling you right now, Jeff, this is the

(05:29):
best thing that's ever happened to this country. We're taking
the parasites off of our purse and we are going
to be the financial giant that we've always been. But
now we're unbridled.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Oh I love it. I completely agree with you. I
think you're now looking at America unbridled. The American eagle
really is soaring now. And again, look, I don't want
to cut my chickens before they're hatched. Every deal has
to be renegotiated. We're going to see what happens with China.
But look, if Trump holds the line, and I believe

(06:01):
he will, the Chinese are gonna have to make a
decision very soon. Do they fight this thing to the
end knowing they're gonna go down in flames and the
massive economic implications at home which could threaten the very
viability and survival of the regime. Or and this is
what I suspect, are members in the politbureau gonna blame Jixenping.

(06:26):
You know, basically saying no, you took us into an
economic trade war with America, you guaranteed us victory, you
didn't deliver, and they basically overthrow him from the presidency,
essentially a political coup. But the Chinese Communist Party stays
in power, so they may have to cut g loose.
I mean, we'll see how things play out. But if

(06:48):
they don't, and they they they tie their they hitch
their wagon to Jijenping. Six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight is the number Jeff Kooner Boston's
bull dozer. All right, seven point thirty four now on
the Great WRKO. Just to show you how addicted we

(07:08):
are as a country to these cheap goods made in China,
most of it again slave labor.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
But let that go.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
This is I want to read this message that Brian
sent me on messenger. Senator Kennedy from Louisiana, a Republican.
He's one of my favorite Republicans because he's just so
witty and he's so funny. Well, here is what Brian
messaged me about what Senator Kennedy apparently said last night. Jeff,

(07:39):
Senator Kennedy came up with a line last night that
made Ted Cruz double over laughing. Kennedy said, everyone knows
that God made the universe in seven days, and China
has made everything else. I gotta say that is very funny,

(08:07):
but that's, you know, basically, it's true. I mean, really,
it doesn't matter where you go. I mean, I've been
talking about Walmart, but it doesn't matter. You go to Tarja, right,
go to Target. Every second thing is made in China.
Vacuum cleaners, coasters, pajamas, as I said, underwear, lamps, alarm clocks.

(08:28):
It doesn't matter. Everything's made in freaking China. Now it's cheap,
there's no question it's cheap, but it's garbage quality. That's
the other thing, you know. And it's not like you're
buying real craftsmanship here. So and I gotta ask all
of you this, okay, because this is my concern. And

(08:50):
you know, again, I am supporting Trump a million percent,
one thousand percent. But I said this to Grace yesterday
over dinner when the stock market began to hurt, you know,
to really take a beating to the hemorrhage as it
did on Thursday. Friday kind of rebounded a little bit

(09:10):
early this week, but again the markets are jittery for
the first time in the entire Trump era. And that
means I'm going back all the way to about twenty fifteen,
twenty sixteen.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
With this great audience.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
For the first time, I saw a significant crack in
the base of support that this audience has for Trump.
Not that they're abandoning Trump, not that some of you
are abandoning him. But how would I say this about
Let's say every you know, Let's say I take ten
texts or ten emails or ten messages, seven back Trump.

(09:52):
Three say they're nervous. My wife, Grace is going to
be on at nine o'clock.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
She's very nervous. She doesn't like these tariffs. She doesn't
like the sequencing of these tariffs.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
She hates to see the stock market start the crater
a little bit like this. She doesn't like the instability.
She feels it's hurting business confidence, it's going to hurt
the economy. It's not what she says she voted for
with Trump. You're gonna hear all her reasons. But I
started to notice about maybe a third of the audience
for the first time text me, email me whatever, saying, Jeff,

(10:28):
maybe Trump should do a thirty day pause. Jeff, this
is getting me nervous. My four oh one k is
going down bad. I've got money tied up in the
stock market. This is not good. I'm afraid this could
trigger a recession. This is a big trade war. He's
biting off more than he can chew. He should hang on,
maybe for sixty days or ninety days, and renegotiate. Take

(10:52):
a temporary pause. Well that's a good point, Sandy. Do
they want to pause the border too? Excellent point. Excellent point.
But for the first time, I'm like, jeez, I'm starting
to see cracks. I'm starting to see jitters. I'm starting
to see some anger, some nervousness, some uncertainty and insecurity.

(11:15):
And the big reason is many are saying, Jeff, I'm
still Groceries are still too high. Gas is still too high,
my monthly bills, everything is still too expensive. I can't
absorb another hit in terms of rising prices. What I

(11:37):
elected Trump to do. This is the argument. I want
to get your take. I elected Trump to lower prices,
not to raise prices. And you can make fun of
us for going to Walmart or whatever, but I shop
at Walmart because I got to feed my family, and
so if prices start to go up across the board

(11:58):
with these tariffs, many of us, our backs are already
against the wall and this could tip us over. So
my question is simply this. Are you nervous about a
trade war with China? Are you worried that this could
lead to rising costs at home and that the prices

(12:21):
of many things will go up and that for people
living check to check, hand to mouth, struggling to survive,
especially after the hard Biden years, Are you against this
tariff war or would you rather, Let's put it this way,
that Trump waited, had the economy boom, passes, tax cuts,

(12:45):
pass deregulation, make us truly energy dominant, really get the
economy kicking into high gear, start driving these prices down,
and then if he wants to go with these tariffs,
do it. But that it's too early, too much, too fast,
That's what some of you and Couner Country are saying.

(13:06):
I want to get your reaction. Agree, disagree? What say you?
Laurie in Walfam, Thanks for holding Laurie and welcomes.

Speaker 8 (13:18):
For taking my call. Hi, Laurie, I don't know if
you're going to like talking to me. I am a
licensed customs broker and have been an international trade for
over forty years. Okay, it's not good. I live the tariff.
I will tell you that no country has a flat tariff.
We all have a harmonized tariff book. The first six

(13:42):
digits of the tariff are universal for almost every country
in the world. Tariffs are based on commodity. Yes, some
commodities are higher than others, but they're not one hundred
and four percent. They're not, some are, some are coming.
Here is thirty two percent, shoes committed two percent. It's
not on everything, and it's not done that way. I

(14:05):
lived the years prior to China actually becoming on board.
I watched Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong all do the same thing.
You know, I truly believe this is our own, all
of ours. We wanted the cheap products. It's not the
government saying that they didn't. They want to go out

(14:25):
and source it elsewhere. It's us. We did it cheaply.
I'm going to tell you I worked for a major
retailer for many, many years. Those tariffs which are still
in effect from the last time that Trump was in
office were astronomicals twenty five percent already, Jeff, on most
things List one, two and three. I know my stuff

(14:49):
onto it. The rest of this we're going to pay
a fortune. People do not realize how much this is
going to impact them. One hundred and four percent. A
table which was on list three already comes on at
twenty five percent. An additional twenty percent is now adding
one hundred and four percent onto that. We can't afford this.

(15:10):
This is going to you think about. It's going to
collapse their economy. It's going to hurt us major. This
is a trickling down effect, Jeff. When companies can't bring
in stuff, we don't have stuff to sell. People are
going to get laid off. It's going to trickle down.
Business are going to shut down. This is my fear.

(15:31):
I'm like your wife. I just heard you speak of
your wife. Yes, four oh one K. I've lost twelve
thousand dollars in three days. That's a lot for me.
I'm not a rich person.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
I guess Laurie, can you do me a favor. I'm
so happy that you called.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Okay, I want to go right back to Laurie in Waltham.
She is speaking for many of you in this audience.
Maga Trump supporters, Trump voters. Look, I mean, I don't
have a scientific way of, you know, of evaluating this,
but I'm just judging by the texts and the emails
and the messages that I'm getting on messenger. Not a majority,

(16:11):
but certainly a significant minority. Thirty five forty percent at least.
Who are you know in Laurie's camp, And you're gonna
hear my wife, she's in Laurie's camp as well, saying, Look,
I don't like these tariffs too much, too fast. It's
going to lead to higher inflation. At least in the
short term. Everything is going to go up. It's going

(16:34):
to go up high. We've suffered a lot under Joe
Biden already, and we didn't vote for this. We didn't
vote for this kind of economic pain as we transition
to these tariffs and to this this this sort of
economic independence that Trump wants to put America on. Laurie,

(16:55):
did I sum up your position accurately?

Speaker 8 (16:57):
Pretty much? Pretty much. I'm also I wrote down a
few things because I also wanted to bring them up.
First of all, when they pay duties in every country,
or you're going to call it tariff for duties, those
charges are for their countries. We're not getting built back
for those charges. We don't pay their duties. Their own

(17:17):
people pay their duties. So that's definitely an issue that
we don't understand. And yes, as I said before, there
is an economic difference, but we don't have the product
they do. And yes, you're right, we get it so cheap,
so that is why we are buying it so much.
And as I said before, it is all our fault.

(17:39):
Another thing, I'm not against them bringing the businesses back here,
but we also have to understand the amount of time
it's going to take to do that. I've seen people
talk about three to six years to stop bringing some
good manufacturing back here. What are we going to do
until then? The unemployment. We're not going to bring in

(18:02):
products because they're going to be so expensive. We cannot
let our economy collapse like this. We have to be smart.
I just really wish he thought through some of the
things that he's doing, because they're going to cause major problems.
I listen a lot. I listen to all radio stations. Jeff,
my partner is like you. He's again, you know, he's

(18:23):
a very big Trump fan, and I respectfully live together
with him, but stuff like this, when it comes to
tariffs and things, this is what I know. Lumber and
steel are going to be a bloody fortune for us
to bring in. When these companies stop building, it's going
to cost them a fortune to build manufacturing in here.
We don't have the infrastructure from here. What are we

(18:44):
going to do. You can't just snap your fingers and
create these things and expect that it's done. People are
going to suffer. There is no doubt. I don't understand
his philosophy. You've got to take care of your people
and be smart about what you do.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Laurie, let me play a cut from Trump himself, and
I want you to react to it, okay, because this
is in some ways this is Trump's answer. He says,
the tariffs, and I want you to hear them and
then give your reaction.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
He says.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
The tariffs are already working. He's barely put them on,
he's barely imposed them. He's got seventy countries lining up.
They're all looking to renegotiate. They want to lower their
tariffs substantially. That will boost American exports. They want to
buy more American which is going to create he says,
more jobs, more wealth, bring more investment into the United States.

(19:40):
Listen now to Trump. This is him a couple days
ago with Prime Minister BB Netanyahu of Israel. He's asked
by the media, are you worried that this tariff war
will lead the higher prices and maybe even lead to
a recession. Listen to what Trump said, roll cut twelve.

Speaker 9 (20:02):
It would be very interesting. It's the only chance our
country will have to reset the table, because no other
president would be willing to do what I'm doing, or
to even go through it.

Speaker 6 (20:16):
Now.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
I don't mind going through.

Speaker 9 (20:17):
It because I see a beautiful picture at the end.
But we are making tremendous progress with a lot of countries,
and the countries that really took advantage of us are
now saying, please negotiate. You know why, because they're getting
beaten badly because of what's happening.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
They're getting beaten badly.

Speaker 9 (20:36):
They're being devalued as countries.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
So Laurie, his argument is, yes, I hear you. In
the short term, yes, it will be a shock. You
will see prices go up, no question. But they're going
to renegotiate. They're already renegotiating, and that's going to mean
more jobs, more investment, more growth, more companies come, I

(21:00):
mean more investment coming into the United States.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
What say you?

Speaker 8 (21:04):
Okay, first of all the countries that usually have the
highest duty of the poorest countries, because and that's probably
who is coming to him, and I'm sure they are.
Can companies say, and again, tariffs aren't set, they are
not twenty five percent their commodity based. So this whole
thing with I'm going to hit you with twenty five percent,

(21:25):
This is all on our president. This never this is
not that all of a sudden, these things just happened.
This is being caused by that. I do believe that
those countries that we at one time had free trade
agreements with. We'll talk about many of the African countries
that you know, all those very poor countries that have

(21:45):
nothing that we used to get in free trades that
are now charging that you know, everybody is getting charged
to search out. But people don't want to. I don't
know how well to say you can't turn things around
that quickly with all closing turmoil, It's going to cause turmoil.
We don't have the products that people want overseas.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Jeff.

Speaker 8 (22:08):
Maybe, and I'm not saying that this shouldn't be done.
I just think it needed to be done in a
smarter way. You don't have to bully the world to
get what you need and to get it more on
an even playing field. I'm going to say one more thing. NAFTA.
NAFTA was a free trade agreement between Canada and Mexico

(22:31):
and the United States around since the nineteen thirties. Trump
came in the twenty sixteen renegotiated NAFTA, which is now
called the USMCA, m the LCA. It's negotiated. He did
it for six seven years ago when he was in
office prior he comes in this time. He doesn't like it.

(22:53):
Baba Bud's garbage. He's the one that negotiated it. You know,
I just don't get it. You know, he's saying to us,
they are hurting our economy because they're charging the doing
the high tariffs. That's not true, as they said, their
people are paying their terriffs. We're not paying their additional

(23:13):
terriffs they are.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Laurie, you said something to me earlier that this began
with China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, going back even to the
nineteen seventies, even before NAFTA. You said Americans want cheap products,
cheap consumer goods, and that in the end, don't blame governments.
You have to blame the American people, do you I'm

(23:40):
just curious, do you think we made a big mistake
as a country forty fifty years ago by saying, forget
made in the USA, even if it means you pay
a little more. Everything is made in America, American jobs,
American factories, American manufacturing. Go for the cheapest product you can,
and even if it means buying from other countries, even

(24:03):
if that means you're going to lose jobs here, outsource
some of our companies that are manufacturing. Do you think
the people of America made a mistake with by cheap
They may have.

Speaker 8 (24:16):
They may have, but we can certainly bring it back.
But I'm not saying this is the way. I'm too
old to run for office, but I truly think, you
know what, it just needs to be done in a
smart way. Jeff, I'm not saying the man's ideas, I'm
always smarter or not a bad idea, it's just the

(24:37):
way he implements them. And because we don't need the
world in chaos right now, he doesn't need to be
on the TV twenty four to seven. Just do a
good job. Do your job, make it safe for people.
Stop making people afraid, because there's a lot of people
out there that are pre scared right now, and me
being one of them, and I worked in the business
for most of my life.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Laurie, you know, my would love to have you over
for dinner. Let me just because you and her are
so sympatical on this issue. She would love to have
you for dinner with some of our Italian pasta and
have the two of you gang up on me. Laurie,
thank you very much for that call. I really really
appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
So, Yeah, Sandy's in my ear saying he's on TV
because people need to know what he's doing, and the
media keeps lying about him. That's why the poor guy's
always got to be on TV. Look just very very quick.
I'm happy Laurie got a chance to express herself because
she is saying what a lot of you Again, I
think it's thirty five to forty percent of the audience,

(25:40):
but a good substantial number of you are saying about Trump.
It's not even that you're against the tariffs. You don't
like the way he's doing it. You don't like the sequencing.
You wish she would have planned this out over a
longer period. Phase it in, go slower, do it more
on a country by country basis, instead of taking on
basically the whole world at the same time. So that's

(26:04):
why I'm happy that Lori called just very quickly though
on the US MCA, this is.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
A very important point.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
The reason why people are saying this, Well, renegotiated NAFTA,
so what's his problem. This is his deal, So well,
you're going to complain about your own deal now six
seven years later. There was a one problem they didn't foresee,
and this has been Trump's argument that after they renegotiated
the NAFTA deal the US and now the USMCA, China

(26:35):
took advantage of a loophole that was not intended in
the agreement, in which they could backdoor their products and
their goods into our market, into our country. Remember, Trump
put a tariff on China and it was so effective,
rememb we had a trade war with China in his

(26:55):
first term that Biden kept the tariff on because it
was helping American manufacturing, it was bringing back jobs and
also frankly revenue, and so Biden kept the tariff. That
was the one thing he didn't do against China was
we sind that tariff. So the Chinese said, ah, let's

(27:17):
get around Trump's tariff. How We're gonna build companies in
Canada and Mexico, Chinese company, Chinese owner, Chinese goods, Chinese products,
and then from Canada and Mexico, We're going to use
those as back doors to flood the American market with

(27:38):
our cheap products. Because Canada and Mexico basically no tariff,
so they were abusing. China was abusing the USMCA, and
Canada and Mexico were allowing China to abuse the USMCA.
That's why Trumps turned around and said, no twenty five

(27:59):
percent on China, I'm sorry on Canada and Mexico. And
he says, no, I'm not gonna let China come in
through the back door. So if China's gonna build plants
in Canada, and by the way, all those plants now
have shut down in Canada and Mexico, the Chinese are
not even bothering to make the goods anymore. They've shut
those factories down in those two countries. Because now they

(28:22):
can't backdoor it into the United States. Now it's twenty
five percent from the southern border, twenty five percent from
the northern border. Blank you. That's why now the Chinese
are panicking. Trump has shut them out of the American market.
Six one seven agree, disagree. I'm just giving you the

(28:42):
strategy six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Laurie says she's worried. She's concerned. Prices are gonna go up.
Everything is gonna go up, and we need this now
like we need a hole in the head. Agree or disagree?
Are you concerned? Finch in Oregon? Thanks for holding Finch
and welcome.

Speaker 10 (29:09):
Thank you Jeff for taking my call first war. I
am just so highed to be talking to you. I
first have to shout out because I said it to
a group of young men. In the group, it's called
Wall Street bet and we are all for Trump, understand.

(29:30):
I also want to mention your father rest in peace.
I was so like the Trump from your message with
your father, and I get very emotional thinking about that
because I didn't have a father, and it's not that
Trump is our father, but he is destined.

Speaker 6 (29:55):
God.

Speaker 10 (29:56):
He survived more than one. It's an attempt, and I
just want to, you know, mention that and then jump
to what's relevant now. I believe that Trump is playing
for the chess. He has this plan, lock stock and barrel.
He has this plan for the United States, and we

(30:20):
will thank him or order for all of his executive
orders because again this is given to us our faith
in God. Trump. When I mentioned that name, there's chills

(30:41):
through my bones. Trump is.

Speaker 9 (30:46):
No.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
I get what you're saying, Finch, and I kind of
feel in many ways, emotionally very much what you're expressing,
and I think many frankly in the country are as well.
Trump is a morphising in front of our eyes, even
from his first term, where in his first term he
was more of a political outsider, a political maverick. I'm

(31:10):
not saying this as a criticism. I'm just literally as
a description. He was an outsider. He was a maverick
in many ways, a political newcomer, a bit of a brawler,
a disruptor, a change agent, which is what we needed.
But this Trump is a bit of a different Trump.
And you can see that the two assassination attempts, I
think the one in Butler in particular, has profoundly transformed him.

(31:34):
Everybody near him. His wife has said it, his children
have said it, his closest advisers have said it. Susie
Wilde said it. She goes he's a different man. She said,
a better man, actually, And she says, I think a
better leader now. Not that he was bad, he said,
I thought he was a great president the first term.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
But he's changed, and I think even.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
For the better. In his second term. He's wiser, he's
more sober, and I mean sober, not in terms of drinking.
I mean in terms of his his judgment. He's very steady.
He's almost becoming like a grandfather or a patriarch to
the country, a twenty first century version of George Washington.

(32:15):
And look, let me just very quickly, this was, Oh,
it was a couple days ago. I can't it's all
blurring in my mind, but I was, you know, we
were talking about the tariffs. We had a really good show,
and I'm at Jersey. Mike's getting myself a sandwich and
one for Grace on my way home, you know, to
have lunch with her after the show. And I run
into a friend of mine who's also a big fan

(32:37):
of the show, listens to the show all the time,
and so I asked him, you met me sell me
at Jersey.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
Mike's like, hey, Jeff, and hey. So I shook his hand.
How are you? I asked them? His wife and his
little you know, his little boy is doing.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
And I said, hey, what do you think of these tariffs?
And he said, oh, I agree with you. We've got
to do this. We've got to do this, even though
it's going to be short term pain. And he said, look, Jeff,
I'm not just thinking about me. I'm thinking about my
five year old son. What kind of a future is
he going to have. We can't keep outsourcing trillions and

(33:15):
trillions of dollars of our wealth to China and countries
all over the world. It's not sustainable. We can't have
a thirty seven trillion dollar national debt. We can't have
constant record high trade deficits. We can't be sending out
our jobs, our manufacturing, our factories, our industry.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
To the whole world.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
We don't make anything anymore. It's a house of cards.
It's unsustainable. That's what he said. The whole thing is
going to collapse. So he goes it's almost like, we
have no choice. And so the way he talked about
it was just funny. He was like, I'm not just
thinking of myself. I'm literally thinking of my five year
old boy. And I said, you know, I'm thinking about

(34:02):
my fifty Honestly, That's why I'm so you know, if
you notice so enthusiastic and so pumped up about this,
because I'm looking at Ashton fifteen, I'm looking at Ava twelve.
I'm like, there's going to be no future for them.
I'm telling you, if we all turn things around, there
will be no future for our children and grandchildren. And

(34:23):
he was the one said to me, I go, you know,
are you noticing that some of your Trump supporting friends
are kind of nervous and jittery because I'm starting to
see this on the text machine and the emails.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
I go, I haven't seen that before ever.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
You know, they're always with Trump through thick and thin,
no matter what the media is hammering them.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
They stand by them.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Russia collusion, they stood by him, the stolen election, they
stood by them. January sixth, they stood by them. But
on this one, not that they've turned on them, but
they're it's like, it's like, what you heard from from
LORI very uneasy, very nervous. They think me, maybe he
got ahead of his skis on this one. He said,

(35:03):
you know, it's funny you should mention that, Jeff. A
lot of my friends Trump's supporters, they're.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
I don't know about these tires, my four oh one
k it's tanking.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
I think maybe Trump's fighting too many countries, you know,
at once. Maybe he should have, you know, phased this
thing out a little bit, spread it out over the
long run.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
But the larger point is this.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
The way he spoke about Trump is the way I
speak about Trump. He's in it for the long haul.
He's not thinking about the next quarter. He's not thinking
about the stock market this week or next week. He's
not talking about earnings. He's literally thinking, I'm going to

(35:53):
position the country for the twenty first century. The way
a patriarch, a grandfather of a family says, there are
changes coming we need to make to save the family,
to save the family farm, to give my children and
especially my grandchildren, opportunities and hope for the future. And

(36:18):
that's what I'm sensing. His tariffs, his economic nationalism, he's
now saying we've got to get rare earth minerals. We
can't have China control the future by controlling these rare
earth minerals. We've got to go and get them from
Greenland or from whatever they may be. We've got to
wind down these wars. We've got to secure our border.

(36:40):
We've got to deport all of these illegals. We have
to get our independence back as a country. If not,
our country is finished. And so I agree with you Finch.
There is something now about President Trump that I believe
has the mark of destiny. And again you may just
agree with me if he wins this massive trade economic

(37:04):
war with China. Hey, it's breaking right now. China has
just imposed an eighty four percent retaliatory tariff on top
of Trump's one hundred and four percent