Tucker vs. Trump

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jeff Kooner, Liberalism's worst nightmare. Okay, Trump versus Tucker, who
do you side with? And on the larger issue, what
now should Trump do as we enter the critical phase
of the war between Israel and I Ron Lisa in
New Hampshire. Thanks for holding Lisa, and welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Thank you, Jeff. How are you good?

Speaker 1 (00:27):
How are you Lisa good?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
I'm like human though, I have to be honest because
you know me, I'm the Trump girls who defends them
no matter what. And you know, you have Tucker, and
you have that call of from Germany, and you have
this one, that one and the other saying oh it's
going to ruin his presidency and his legacy. Everybody has
to start at the beginning. He wants nothing but peace,

(00:54):
right how many times as he said, I just want
people to stop doing I just want peace in the world,
and I want to find a way to bring prosperity
in everything to the world so we can all live
in peace and harmony. Well, yeah, we know that the
world is an evil in a horrible place, and we

(01:16):
know that that sounds like a little bit of la
la loo, right, But that's his mission and has been
first and foremost So how do you ruin the legacy
of a man who, when you know his heart and
his policy is only first and foremost for peace. But

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what is the true meaning of that peace? Through strength?
To me the Taka cousins, my you know, Oh, I
love the guy in one breath. I love the guy
right and on the most popular podcast and on his
own and whoever will listen to him throws them under

(02:00):
the bus. This is the reason why I'll never be
a Republican. This is the reason why I hate Republicans,
because they're so fear weathered and they and they're all
a bunch of jellyfish. In a perfect world, we turn
a blind's eye and we do and say nothing. The
world is not perfect. Everybody forgets October seventh, everybody look

(02:23):
at I don't really know that much about Israel. I
love people, period, don't care if you're Jewish, don't care
what you are. It doesn't matter to me. If I'm
walking down the street, even at sixty one years old,
and I see every single day on my way to
the bus stop, say a little girl getting beat up
by a big girl, or a little boy getting beat

(02:44):
up by a big boy. Every single chance they get
and I'm tough enough and big enough and strong enough
to defend that little girl. I am going to do it,
especially when I see the little girl all she wants
to do is playing in her front yard and mind
her business and live a life. It's the same thing.
Why should Israel have to live every minute of its life,

(03:09):
every day, every year with the threat of crazy people
wanting to blow them up, kill them. Palestinians get pensions
for killing them because they are Jewish. It's so disgusting,
it's so inhumane, and it's so hotbreaking that the Jewish
people all over the world are afraid because they are Jewish,

(03:33):
not because they are bad people, but because they happen
to be Jewish. I'm so sick and tired of the
madness and the craziness in this world. And we got
one guy who was almost killed on national TV that
bought up after everything he'd been through and put up
his fists and said fight. That doesn't mean fight just here,

(03:58):
it means fight in so you can't fight anymore. I
don't understand what people want from him. He's one man.
He's got fifty thousand people chirping in his ears twenty
one hours out of the day. He might get three
hours of sleep. He's trying to make the best decision.
He's trying to bring around people with different opinions so

(04:23):
he can figure it out. Give the guy a minute,
give him a break. You know where his hot is now,
he's going to do what he thinks he's going to do, right,
Is it me? Or am I just a mental case?

Speaker 1 (04:38):
No, Lisa, And look, I do feel very sorry for
Trump because look, there's no question he Look, he gave
the molas a great offer. I mean, he's that's why
he's just he's shocked. He's stunned. He's like he's telling it.
He goes, Look, I'm telling you that BB is not
going to allow you guys to get the Like. I

(05:01):
don't know how many ways I can tell you this,
You're not getting that bomb. You may want to get it,
you may long for it, you may desire it, you
may lust for it, but you're not going to get
the bomb. Now, I can put a deal on the
table that will give will you know, will end the
sanctions and allow your country to truly prosper trade with

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the entire world. If you want civilian nuclear energy, Trump,
is it fine? I don't care. Build all the nuclear
reactors you want, but you don't have the ability and
you will never have the ability to enrich uranium to
the point that you can get a bomb that is
off the table. Period. And he told them repeatedly, look

(05:46):
Hesballah smashed, Hamas smashed, the Huthis have been smashed, Syria
bashar Asad fell, he was overthrown. All of your allies
in proxies are either gone or they're basically now been
weakened and marginalized. Like you're gonna face Israel now alone,

(06:07):
and the Israelis are gonna wipe you guys out, Like
do you understand? He even said it now? He said
it again? Was it yesterday? He goes, make a deal,
even now I goes, I'm giving you the final exit ramp.
Make a deal. As he said before, there's nothing left.
Do you understand? Before they're your whole regime comes crashing down,

(06:30):
make a deal now. I don't want to see any
more death. I don't want to see any more bloodshed.
And no, the Mola's basically spit in his face. So again,
my position on Iran is the same position I have
on Hamas. They are to blame and if they would
just desire peace, there would be peace. But they don't

(06:53):
want peace, so you're gonna get war. And the Israelis
are doing to Israel, to Iran, forgive me what they've
done to Hamas ant Hezballah and to the Huthis. They
are degrading them. They are destroying them. I mean they are,
they are bombing them to Kingdom. Come six one seven
two six, six sixty eight, sixty eight is the number.

(07:16):
So look, let me just you know for me. Anyway,
here's the exclamation point on the whole Tucker versus Trump debate.
Trump is not a warmonger. You can say many things
about him, but the one thing he's not is a warmonger.
And so is he trying to bring peace between Russia
and Ukraine? Of course? The guy's breaking his back. Is

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he trying to help rebuild Gaza? Of course? Is he
trying to wind down that war between Israel and the Palestinians?
Of course? Did he not just go through sixty freaking
days with you know what was it? Six rounds of
talks with the Mullahs, the Ayatolas, the Iranians, And how

(07:59):
many times did he say, make a deal you're gonna
regret it. Make a deal. Make a deal. I don't
want this to go to war. Make a deal. So
I think for Tucker to be frank to accuse Trump
now of betraying MAGA and betraying America first, and betraying
his voters and betraying his base, I think it's a

(08:22):
cheap shot. Honestly, I think it's it's a dirty, cheap shot.
And I think it's unfair. I think it's grossly unfair.
And now, look if Trump sent in boots on the ground,
if Trump ordered US air strikes, if Trump got US involved,
say in another you know, Iraq or Afghanistan, or where

(08:45):
we go into Iran to you know, to change the regime,
that's a different story. Then I think, you know, Tucker
could legitimately say, hey, whoa you know you said no
endless wars. This is going to be a major war
with the major occupation. So then I would say, well,
now Tucker's got a point. But to stand by and

(09:06):
say you support Israel when everybody knows that the Ayatolas
now are in the brain, they're in a sprint to
the bomb as they say, they're about three months away.
And look and we don't have to even guess. The

(09:26):
International Atomic Energy Agency, that's the un watchdog. They sent
in their inspectors. They came out with a report last week.
These are this was their conclusions for twenty years. They said,
Iran has been deliberately being deceitful, that they have been
deliberately hiding their enrichment program from inspectors over and over

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and over again, that they clearly are engaged in quote
unquote illicit nuclear activities and that is in violation of
the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty. In other words, they say
they don't want the bomb, but in secret they're going
for the bomb. Now that's the IAEA, that's the un

(10:15):
z own watchdog. Those are the inspectors that they sent
that iron agreed saying yeah, yeah, come on in, and
they're saying no. They're lying to us at every turn.
So it's obvious, you know, this is not for civilian
peaceful use. So BB had to make a decision. His

(10:37):
decision is it's now or never. They shared the intelligence
with Trump. Trump looked at the intelligence and said to BB,
go I can't I can't stand in your way. You
have the green light, so you know, I'm sorry, but
what is Trump supposed to say? No, We're gonna live

(10:57):
with the nuclear bomb, We're gonna live with nuclear arm
and d run. I mean it would be it's suicide.
It's not just suicide for Israel, it's suicide for the
Middle East. It's suicide for the world.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Agree disagree six one seven two six six sixty eight
sixty eight ED in Maryland, Thanks for holding ed and welcome.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Good morning, Jeff Hi Ed. So, I've had a good
bit of time to think about what I was going
to say. Find a lot of this to be a
very dangerous threading of the needle. Just there's so many
fronts to this. Tucker has been consistent. I've listened to

(11:46):
him very closely. I listened to him quite a bit,
and uh, I I don't know. I'm totally okay with
another country, another sovereign country, doing what they need to
do for their country, But I I just don't know

(12:10):
to what degree are are we? Is the United States
in this already that we don't know about? And have
we forgotten how this movie ends because we don't have
a great record for regime change. And I would like

(12:31):
everybody to go back and watch the congressional hearings with
nat Yahu, you know, talking us into going Iraq. I
mean that turned out really awesome, didn't it.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
And are you still there? Yes, sir, Yeah, please keep going.
I mean, I want you to make your case. Please
go ahead.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
I just I'm you know, we were told, we were
told deep state arrests and mass deportations. Instead we get
a bloated spending bill and a new Middle East war.
Not a big fan over here, just noted ed.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Let me ask you this, what is it that Trump
has done? Just on the Israel issue? Okay, let's leave
because I know there's other issues. We can talk about
the budget and the reconciliation bill and other things, but
just on the Israel issue, where you say I'm not
happy with Trump, Trump is wrong, Tucker is right. What

(13:35):
in particular has angered you about Trump and the way
he's handled this whole.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Thing that I'm angry. What I'm saying is that I'm
very just. I have a deep feeling of dread. And
I'm not a big feelings guy either, but I'm just
very very I'm cautiously optimistic on how this is going

(14:04):
to turn out. I just I don't know I don't
have any more answers than I.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Think your fear is. And I don't want to put
words in your mouth that basically we're going to get
sucked or dragged into another war in the Middle East, correct.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Because these things they just they drip, drip, drip, and
then you realize, holy cow, we were, we were deeper
involved in the beginning than we ever knew. And and
I'm just I don't know, Jeff. I mean, time will tell,
and I'll be I'll be spending a lot of time
in prayer on this one, but I don't know well.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
And look, according to I'm just going by what net
Nyahu and the Israeli military is saying. They're giving this
about another week to ten days. Uh, And look like
their military is not infinite. I mean, you know, yes,
they have an pressive military. They spend a lot, We
give them a lot of assistance as well. We also
sell them a lot of weapons. But you know, they

(15:07):
don't have an unlimited amount of missiles and bombs and warplanes,
and so you know, they can only do so much
after a while. You know, you can't just keep blowing
up the same nuclear facility over and over and over again.
So this thing is going to come to an end,
probably in a week or ten days, and we'll know

(15:28):
was it a success or not. I think the danger
ed and you may disagree with me, is that Israel says, Okay,
it's done. We've done everything we possibly could, and still
they haven't obliterated or gotten rid of the entire program.
That the nuclear program somehow remains part of it intact.

(15:51):
And then the Mullas are going to say, well, hey,
we just got bombed. We need to get a bomb now,
a nuclear bomb. Six one seven sixty eight, sixty eight
is the number. Okay, let me throw another log on
the fire. And it's a very important log and it
goes to the heart of the clash between Tucker, Candice Owans,

(16:13):
many people in Tucker's camp, and President Trump. In other words,
this schism now that has erupted over the Trump supporting
Israel and its attack on Iran. And that is the
testimony of Director of National Intelligence Tulsa Gabbard. This was

(16:34):
just a couple months ago where she testified on Capitol
Hill where she said, according to everything that we know
in terms of US intelligence, Iran suspended its nuclear weapons
program in two thousand and three. Listen, now, this is

(16:54):
Brett Bear in his interview with BB net Yahoo saying, well, well,
according to Tulci Gabbard and according to our intelligence community,
they've come out and said, we don't have the same
intelligence that you have. Our intelligence says the Ayatolas suspended

(17:15):
their program. There is no breakout. They're not on the
verge of a bomb. Listen to BB's response. Roll cut
six B.

Speaker 5 (17:26):
Mike Pulcy Gabbert testified on Capitol Hill saying that everything
had been suspended since two thousand and three and had
not restarted, that the nuclear program had not been restarted
by the Iranians. So did something change from end of
March until this week? Was the US intel wrong?

Speaker 6 (17:45):
The intel we got and we shared with the United
States was absolutely clear, was absolutely clear that they were
working in a secret plan to weaponize the uranium. They
were marching very quickly. They would achieve a test device
and possibly an initial device within months and certainly less
than a year. That was the intel we shared with

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the United States. I think we have excellent intel in Iran.
I think we've proven that and that is something that
we couldn't possibly accept.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
So and then remember I talked about the Israeli mindset
about never again, never again in the wake of the Holocaust.
Listen now to Netanyahu saying, look, I'm speaking now is
in Israeli and on behalf of the Israeli people. We
will not allow Iran to conduct a second Holocaust on

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the Jewish people. Roll cut six c a mic.

Speaker 6 (18:43):
Whether it would be six months or twelve months or
thirteen months as immateial. Once they go that route, it's
too late and we will not have a second Holocaust,
a nuclear holocaust. We already had one in the previous century.
The Jewish state is not going to have the Holocaust
made it on the Jewish people.

Speaker 7 (19:00):
It's not going to happen.

Speaker 6 (19:01):
It's never again, is now, and we have to act now.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
So in other words, and again they've said this repeatedly,
even if you knukus well nuqu and I mean, we
may go down, but we're taking you with us. So
this this is their mindset. Now I want to play
just very quickly, one more cut. This is Tulsa Gabbard again,
Director of National Intelligence. She testified March twenty twenty five,

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so just a couple months ago, and she said that
the entire intelligence community of the United States was unanimous
Iran is not building a nuclear weapon and that the
Ayah Toola Ali Hameni has not authorized the resumption of
a program that he suspended in two thousand and three.

(19:52):
Roll cut nine, Mike.

Speaker 8 (19:56):
The IC continues to assess that Iran is not building
a nuclear weapon and Supreme Leader Kamini has not authorized
the nuclear weapons program that he suspended in two thousand
and three. The IC continues to monitor closely if Tehran
decides to reauthorize its nuclear weapons program.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
So I see stands as shorthand for international sorry intelligence community.
So I see stands for intelligence community. Now just very quickly,
and then I want to get your reaction to this. Now,
Tucker is convinced and many around him that that BB

(20:34):
is playing Trump. He says, look our own you know,
Director of National Intelligence, this is Tucker's argument, has come
out and said, no, they don't. They're not building the bomb,
they're not on the path to the bomb. That we
are being snookered, manipulated and lied to by BB because
BB wants a war with Iran. BB wants to take

(20:56):
out the Mullah's and by attacking Iran, the goal is
to eventually drag us into that war by hook or
by crook, and so that they have presented fake intelligence. Hey,
that's the accusation. Now on the other side, and this
is Trump's view and that of his national security team,

(21:16):
they say, no, we've seen the Israeli intelligence. It's it's
rock solid, it is raw. They have caught things that
our intelligence community missed because they have MOSAD and they
have their operatives deeply embedded in Iran places that we
don't have. So the intel that they gave us, they

(21:39):
believe was one thousand percent credible. That's what convinced Trump
to give Bebe the green light. So the question now
is who do you believe? Who's telling us the truth?
Six one seven two six x sixty eight sixty eight

(21:59):
is the number Adrian in New Mexico. Thanks for holding Adrian, and.

Speaker 9 (22:05):
Welcome good morning, Jeffrey. Hi Adrian, so well, regarding what
you just brought up, I don't trust anything. I don't
believe anything that Benjamin Itwit Yahoo even says, I would
tend to believe Telsea Gabbard over Yahoo any day of

(22:27):
the week. But I wanted to mention I am one
hundred percent against President Trump. Involving the USA in this
war that Israel started. I don't know if anyone has
brought this up, but I think that what would happen
is this would lead to World War III. It has
already been reported that both Pakistan, who already has nuclear weapons,

(22:51):
and China have pledged their support for Iran after Israel's
attack on Iran. This is Israel's war. This is not
America's war. President Trump needs to put America first and
put Israel first. We have way too many domestic problems

(23:13):
in the United States that still need to be fixed.
President Trump is allowing himself to be distracted by Benjamin
knit to Nyahou and I'm concerned that President Trump has
already forgotten about all the riots that were taking place
last week in Los Angeles and riots that were taking

(23:35):
place across the country this past weekend. You know, my
prediction is that this summer is going to be just
like the summer of twenty twenty, when we're going to
have riots all across the country. President Trump has got
to keep his eye on the ball and not be
distracted by.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
This Adrian what has so far, I'm just curious what
is Trump done vis a vis Israel that you say
you object to. Is it the fact that he has
given BB the green light, that he's publicly supported him.
Is it the fact that he's provided weaponry and financial assistance.

(24:18):
Is it the fact that he's contemplating now giving them
the bunker busters that they want and they say they
need to destroy for DOW that big nuclear enrichmentd site
underneath what is it half a mile of a mountain?
Or in other words, what has Trump done that you
so object to and dislike?

Speaker 9 (24:41):
This has always provided Israel with, you know, lots of
money and obviously a lot of military weaponry and things
like that. My concern is, I don't think that we
need to be providing these bunker boster type of bombs.
Israel has a much better, much more advanced, you know,

(25:05):
stockpile of weapons of missiles and things like that that
Iran has, and I think that you know, Israel would obviously,
you know, they have a lot of advantages over Iran.
But my it's like I was touching on earlier. I
don't know if anyone else has brought this up on
your show this morning, but my concern is truly a

(25:25):
World War III. The American people elected President Trump to
put America first, not to put Israel or other countries first.
We don't want to be in these wars. We still
have the war going on between Russia and Ukraine, We've
got the war going on in Gaza, and then we

(25:49):
have now another war Israel and Iran. We don't need
to be involved. That's really what my main concern is.
Trump needs to put the American people first and he
needs to focus on the problems in this country. Something
else I'm going to bring up, and this hasn't really
been talked about today, but you know, in the first

(26:13):
hundred days of President Biden's administration, In the first hundred
days of Biden's presidency, look at how many hundreds of
people Merrick Garland arrested who were Trump supporters. And these
people were put in prison for no reason, for just
ridiculous charges. In many cases they didn't even have a

(26:33):
court date. They weren't even able to defend themselves. How
many people has Attorney General Cambondi arrested? How many criminal Democrats?
How many criminals from the deep state? Has she arrested
and put in prison? Has she arrested and gone after
Jim Comey for what he did recently. The answer is no,

(26:54):
I don't think she's arrested anyone like that. So we
have problems in this country we need to focus on first.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Adrian. No, I hear you, Adrian, So I take it
you side with Tucker. Then in this debate between Tucker
and Trump, Adrian, let me ask you just to play
devil's advocate. What do you say to Trump's argument? Yes, okay,
I hear you, Adrian. You want me to put America
first and not Israel or any other country first. But

(27:24):
if Iran gets the bomb, there will be no peace.
If Iran gets the bomb, as he puts it, it's
going to lead to an inevitable nuclear war. You want
to all about World War III? Trump would say, then
we've got a nuclear war in the heart of the
Middle East and we will have no peace, and then

(27:44):
the United States will have to be drawn in. What
do you say to that argument?

Speaker 9 (27:50):
Well, I don't think the United States should be drawn
in alone if it comes to something like that. But
you know, if I remember correctly, Benjamin Nettan Yahoo has
been going on since I think it was, you know,
nine to eleventh September eleventh of two thousand and one,
he's been going on about, oh, the Iranians are just

(28:12):
weeks away from having nuclear weapons, and you know, he always,
you know, he always brings that up in my opinion,
and what Yahoo is a warmonger. So you know, that's
just the way I look at I just say, President Trump,
just you know, let the you know, let the Israelis

(28:33):
continue to fire their missiles into Iran, because from what
I'm understanding, they're actually having a better success rate than
the Iranians are when the Iranians are sending their missiles
into Israel.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
So in other words, Adrian, if Israel wants to fight Iran,
let them. The United States should stay out completely and
focus on problems at home.

Speaker 9 (29:00):
Correct, absolutely, Okay, I'm an American, I'm an American first,
I am my concern will always be with the United States.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Adrian, thank you very much for that call. I really
appreciate it. So it's been a couple of calls. Now,
you know, it's this Trump versus Tucker debate, and you know,
Kooner country is split the way Maga is split. I mean,
I don't know if it's the same percentage, but you
can see that's there's a division. Six one seven two

(29:31):
six six sixty eight sixty eight Tom in Plymouth, Thanks
for holding Tom and welcome.

Speaker 7 (29:40):
Good morning, Jeff, Hi talk for taking my call, my
pleasure home. Okay, just a couple of points. From Tucker's standpoint,
I always looked at him as being a very good
thank to, very articulate. I enjoyed listening to them. But
I don't know why this hill to die on. I
think his argon is trying to say kill the nature.

Speaker 9 (30:01):
Right.

Speaker 7 (30:02):
So number one, you don't do anything and they get
the bomb. We're in World War three and catastrophe in
the Middle East as well as potentially in Europe and
who knows where where else. Right number two, you inter
being like Israel's doing right now, and we help them more.
From a logistical tactical standpoint, you know, maybe it is

(30:24):
the button bunco buster or cheating down missiles that are
coming over a Tel Aviv. That's the least we should do.
We've got to eliminate these guys. We have a chance
to do it now thanks to Israel's intelligence in the military.
We have to get rid of them. You're going to
wipe them off the face of the Europe number one.

(30:45):
So I think Tapey's argument is is not correct. Number two,
Obama doesn't get the credit that he deserves sort of
enable them, putting them on the path to have these
nuclear weapons. And I think Obama wants to be the
twelfth and mom, and I'll stop that.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Well, Tom, I got to tell you the second point
in particular is I think brilliant, Absolutely brilliant. There's no
question he empowered the Obama. He empowered the Mullas. He
enriched the Mullas. I mean, he flooded them with billions
of dollars. That's why they were able to build up
this terrorist these terrorist proxies, this vast terrorist network and

(31:29):
my god, the destruction, the death. And you're right, he
basically helped financially underwrite the last ten years where they
were developing all of these hidden nuclear facilities all across
the country. Tom, I want to go back to your
first point because I want to be fair to Tucker.
Now you know I sided with Trump. Okay, I ultimately

(31:50):
I'm with Trump on this all the way. But to
be fair to Tucker, this is his argument, and I
want to hear what your counter argument is. His argument is, no, Tom,
don't it's not circular. The bad guy in this is BB.
This is what Tucker would are. In fact, this is
exactly what Tucker has argued. That it's BB that's fomenting war.

(32:13):
It's BB that wants to take it to the Iranians.
And Tucker would say, no, Iran is not going to
get the bomb, and he cites Tulca Gabbert. He says,
our own intelligence community, according to Tulsa Gabbert says, they
don't have the bomb, they're not working on the bomb,
they're far away from the bomb that they suspended the

(32:34):
program and it's still suspended. So what he would say
to you, Tom is I'm not saying, oh, let Iran
get the bomb and let's have World War iiie. What
I'm saying is that BB. Netanyahu wants a greater Israel.
This is his argument, and that the way to get
a greater Israel is to smash all of Israel's enemies,

(32:57):
and he's using the threat of Iran getting the bomb
as his excuse or justification to launch war after war
after war, and to try to suck or drag the
United States into supporting Israel and its ultimate greater Israel project.

(33:18):
That's literally his argument what say you, Tom?

Speaker 7 (33:24):
You know, I KNOWBB tends to play us somewhat. However,
this is an existential threat to his country and his people.
He has no choice, all right. We can't afford to
assume they don't have the bomb or they decommission in
a while back. I don't buy that for a minute.
They've been on this path for a long time, and

(33:46):
like you said earlier, they're looking you know, to brain
fire in the Middle East and on Israel, you know,
for their crazy religious reasons number one. So I don't
buy it. I think the intelligence has to be rough
solid on behalf of the side. And we'll find out
soon if we get into these places, or we do

(34:06):
some investigation, or we bomb them to the Stone Age,
we'll have plenty of evidence about what they're doing with
these programs. And why do you have all these places
hidden on the mountains.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Well that's the key, See Tom, I think that's the
checkmate argument. I think you nailed it. Look, this would
be my rebuttal if I had Tucker on. In fact,
you know what, I'm gonna try to get Tucker on.
I mean, what the hell I mean? You know, he's
very thoughtful. I'm sure he's willing to engage in a
good debate. But this is to me the checkmate argument. Well,
if they suspended their program, like Pulsy Gabbart says, and

(34:37):
our so called intelligence community, well why are they playing
these games with the IAEA. Why are they constantly being deceitful.
Why are they covering things up? Why are they hiding
everything in these mountains? Why is everything half a mile
underneath the ground. Because if it's only for peaceful civilian use,

(34:58):
then it's fine. Nothing's going to happen to their nuclear facilities.
They're allowed to have civilian nuclear power. So IAEA would
come in and say, you know, yeah, no, it's fine,
it's all kosher, it's all above board. You know, it's
like the nuclear plants we have here or in France,
or you know they have them all over the world. No, no,
it's for peaceful civilian use. The reason why they keep hiding, shifting, moving, lying,

(35:26):
as the IAEA says, is because I'm quoting their report.
They're engaged and they quote illicit nuclear program. So of
course they're trying to push forward towards the wards getting
the bomb. And look at the financial price they've paid, right,
Just think about it. You're their leaders, and you're like, well, no,

(35:46):
we really we don't want the bomb, and we're going
to be taking on all of these sanctions. No, man,
open up the facilities, let them see. So the IAEA
gives us a clean bill of health and then they
can lift the sanctions. So to me, the fact that
they're willing to take the sanctions, weather the sanctions, and

(36:07):
play all of these games with the UN shows to me, Tom,
beyond the shadow of a doubt. Hey, look, I never
heard of an honest nuclear reactor being hidden half a
mile underneath a mountain. But God what, No, I'm sorry,
I don't buy it. So I think Tom, that to

(36:28):
me is the checkmate argument. So, and I think they're
asking of Israel to accept something that they would never
allow the United States to accept. Here, nuclear missiles by
the Soviet Union ninety miles off the coast of Florida
in Cuba, Well, what did we do. We literally were

(36:49):
willing to go to nuclear war. So if we find
it unacceptable to have nuclear missiles and ninety miles off
of our coast, is the real is going to find
it acceptable that the Mullahs in Tehran have a nuclear
bomb and remember you know, they're not a country of
three hundred and forty three hundred and fifty million, I know,

(37:11):
a continent. This is a very small country with you know,
ten million people, seven million Jews. One bomb, it's over, literally,
one bomb and the Jews are done.