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June 20, 2025 • 49 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, cooner country. Okay, momentous, momentous decision yesterday, at
least in the short term. President Trump, now, through his
Press Secretary Caroline Levitt, has now at least for the

(00:20):
remaining few days, at least the next couple days, maybe
even the next two weeks, essentially now pumped the breaks
on whether the United States will become directly involved in
the war with Iran joining Israel. There was tremendous pressure,

(00:40):
even almost a sense of momentum, that Trump would inevitably
come out in favor of US strikes, especially a bombing
campaign on Fourdeaux, the nuclear enrichment facility that is heavily fortified,
buried underneath a mountain, which Trump would say yes. This

(01:03):
was the sense in Washington anyway, that he would say
yes to using American B two stealth bombers to dromp
these to drop these thirty thousand pound bunker busters that
could smash Fourdeaux and effectively get rid of all and
wipe out all of Iran's nuclear weapons facilities. President Trump

(01:29):
made it very clear he is not going to be
rushed into a decision. He met with his national security
team for most of the day in the situation room,
and with Israel now on the offensive, controlling the skies,
having achieved total air dominance, and now pounding away not

(01:54):
just at key nuclear sites and facilities, but now at
missile production facilities and plants, having eliminated over two thirds
two thirds. This is incredible of Iran's missile launchers, meaning
if this war continues over the next three four five days,

(02:18):
they will wipe out all of Iran's missile launchers, which
means they can have all the ballistic missiles in the world.
They could fly and they launched, by the way, a
couple yesterday, Mark thirteen. So these are super hypersonic missiles.
You can have the best missiles in the world. If

(02:40):
you don't have launchers, they're useless. They're literally useless, they're grounded.
Israel now may be able to achieve what was thought
in military history as the unthinkable, winning a war through
air power alone. It is I'm not saying it's going

(03:01):
to happen, but there is now that very real possibility.
And so with Israel systematically dismantling Iran's nuclear infrastructure piece
by piece, just destroying their military leadership, their intelligence leadership,
now their ballistic missile capabilities. Trump essentially concluded, if Israel

(03:28):
is winning this war, why should the US jump in?

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Now?

Speaker 1 (03:33):
What's the rush? Listen now to Caroline Levitt Roll cut one, Mike.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
The ongoing situation and Iran. I know there has been
a lot of speculation amongst all of you in the
media regarding the President's decision making and whether or not
the United States will be directly involved. In light of
that news, I have a message directly from the President
and I quote, based on the fact that there's a
substantial chance of negotiations that may or may not take

(04:05):
place with Iran in the near future. I will make
my decision whether or not to go within the next
two weeks.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
So he's now given himself a two week window, a
more maneuvering room, whether or not he will launch US
attacks on Iran, and whether he will formally join Israel.
Now a couple of very important points, and then I
want to ask you, the great audience of Kooner Country.

(04:33):
In fact, I'd love to take calls right after the break. Literally,
uh six one seven, two, six, six, sixty eight, sixty
eight is the number whether you agree with Trump's decision
or not. It is now clear that Trump has made,
at least for now, several conclusions as I just said,

(04:54):
that Israel is doing spectacularly well, that these are in
a sense making it less urgent, at least in the
short term, for the United States to have to jump
into the war. So it seems it's almost like, you know,
he kind of took my I'm not saying he took
my advice, but people like me were arguing, stay the course,

(05:19):
if Israel is doing our dirty work, and if Israel
is destroying our enemy, just stand back and let them
do what they do best, which is win. And so
he's sort of looking around the room saying, Okay, I
understand about four dou, but outside of four dou how
much more could we add to this? So, if Israel

(05:42):
now is effectively destroying the Mullahs and destroying their regime
and destroying all of their nuclear capabilities, why should we
then get directly involved and risk incurring the immense blowbock
that such a move would precipitate. So essentially Trump is saying,

(06:06):
let Israel continue to do what they're doing. We have
their back and we're not going to get formally involved. Secondly,
and this is the key point I think as well.
Caroline Levitt admitted yesterday, and I had reported this several
days ago, that there still were back channel negotiations taking

(06:26):
place between the Iranian regime and the United States, that
all communications were not cut off. As she put it,
quote unquote, correspondence continues. And so as I speak to
you now in Geneva, Switzerland, European foreign ministers are meeting

(06:47):
with the Iran's negotiating team on our behalf, and they're
basically now going to press the Iranians and the Ayatola,
the Supreme leader. Look, Trump is now put down two markers.
You cannot ever have a nuclear weapon period, and you
can never have nuclear enrichment ever, not even a scintilla,

(07:11):
not even iota, not even a millisecond, not even a millimeter.
So if you are willing to sign to the unconditional
surrender of your nuclear weapons program and allow the international
community to have unfettered, unfiltered access, unlimited access, and they

(07:36):
will come in and they will dismantle four dough, they
will dismantle Natans, they will dismantle Bashir In other words,
everything instead of bombs dropping, which could lead to potential
radioactive nuclear radiation fallout, let the inspectors come in and professionally,

(07:57):
with experts expertise, safely dismantle and get rid of all
of these nuclear enrichment sites and facilities if the Mullas
do not sign on the dotted line. Essentially, now Trump
is committed to letting Israel finish this war and wipe

(08:18):
this program militarily off the map. Now, I want to
ask you, because this is the question, is Trump relying
too much on the word of the Mullus. One of
the criticisms now of a diplomatic endgame, of a diplomatic solution,

(08:40):
is that the Mullas cannot be trusted, and at this
late hour, with their regime clearly teetering, with their nuclear
capabilities now being utterly obliterated decimated, they'll sign anything, and
then they'll try to play the game, this cat and

(09:00):
mouse game about letting in the inspectors, not letting in
the inspectors, and then we're almost back to where we started.
And so my question to you, should Trump have allowed
the Mullahs this two week window to potentially sign a

(09:21):
diplomatic deal. Now, let me say one final thing. Six
one seven two six, six, sixty eight sixty eight is
the number the left is crowing. I don't know why,
but the left in this country, the deranged anti Trump Democrats,
are now claiming that Trump blinked. The neo conservatives, the warhawks,

(09:47):
who were gripped with this war fever to push the
United States into a formal war, an all out war
against Iran, are bitterly disappointed in Trump's decision yesterday for
a basically a two week extension to give himself two
weeks before he makes a final, final decision. They're saying

(10:09):
Trump blinked that his moment came, and he should have
joined Netanyahu and Israel and unleashed American buster bombs and
unleashed fire and fury from the sky and end the
nuclear program militarily once and for all. Let me be
brutally honest with you. I think Trump made the absolute

(10:33):
right decision. I think he's right. If Israel is winning
the war, what benefit it is is it to us
to now join when they're doing such a good job
on their own and ask for a diplomatic solution. Trump
is not naive. Trump is not gullible. The Mullahs must

(10:54):
sign an unconditional surrender. An unconditional means unconditional Okay, so
we played the cut of Caroline Levitt, the Press secretary yesterday,
uh directly from President Trump. According to him, he says
there is still a substantial chance of negotiations. He says,

(11:15):
we'll find out very soon whether or not Iran wants
to make a final nuclear deal that would end their
entire nuclear weapons and enrichment program. And then he's got
about Trump says, within the next two weeks he will
make his final decision on whether the United States will

(11:35):
enter the war. Now, just quick exclamation point because the
lines are jammed, and I want to go to the
gray phones. Six one seven two six, six sixty eight
sixty eight is the number. I think there's no question
that President Trump, and he said this repeatedly, would rather
end this diplomatically, peacefully. He doesn't want the war to

(12:00):
go on, he doesn't want it to escalate. He doesn't
want to see more human lives lost, and so I
try honestly, I commend him for that. I think that
it's the right humane thing to do. Furthermore, I think
he also worries about, as I said, the potential environmental,
ecological fallout if you continue to hammer these nuclear facilities,

(12:25):
and there is possibility of radiation leaking. He would rather
That's why he would rather have the Mulla's basically surrender,
allow these un inspectors to come in, and then have
them just professionally dismantle all of their enrichment and nuclear
capability facilities. And so I think on those two points,

(12:48):
I think he's completely right.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Now.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
As for the Europeans, I don't trust the Europeans. But
the reason why this meeting is important is that the
Europeans will report back to Trump. And that's the purpose
of the whole meeting. How much have the Mullas but
budged on the negotiations because Trump has told them I

(13:11):
have two redlines non negotiables. One, there must be no
nuclear weapon period. Two, no enrichment period. Now you guys
want a civilian nuclear program, that's fine, whatever, We can
do certain things. But when it comes to a bomb

(13:33):
or the ability in any way, shape or form to
achieve or obtain the bomb, the answer is yet, no,
absolutely not. So he's gonna get a sense very soon
how serious the Mullahs are about maybe signing a deal
at the negotiating table. So I want to ask you,

(13:56):
did Trump make the right move? Is he right to
give himself more time to give diplomacy one last chance,
or like many neo conservatives are saying, like many liberals
for different reasons, the neo cons want him to go
in now to finish Iran once and for all, and

(14:18):
they know that US getting involved will do that, and
what happens afterwards, we'll deal with it. So they're claiming
Trump is blinked. The liberals are goading him to attack
Iran because they believe that this will lead to a
quagmire another Iraq potentially, and that it will completely derail

(14:40):
his entire presidency and his big beautiful bill. So they're
calling him chicken, even though they keep saying they don't
even want Israel to bomb Iran. So as the Democrats
side with Iran, they're taunting Trump because they believe that
if he goes in in this war and joins Israel,

(15:01):
he will be breaking his presidency. So where do you
stand on this issue? Do you support President Trump's decision
to give diplomacy one last shot and to ket to
allow Israel to continue to methodically destroy and decimate Iran's

(15:24):
nuclear capability? But as we just stand there beside them
without formally getting involved. And let me add this log
to those of you that wanted the United States to
jump in to join Israel to enter the war. Are
you disappointed in Trump? Did he let you down? Or

(15:47):
do you agree with his decision to give himself more time,
more maneuverability, the ability to think this thing through? In
other words words, do you agree with his decision to
give himself a little bit more runway? Or do you
think he missed an historic opportunity to finish Iran off

(16:11):
once and for all. Six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight is the number, Okay, as I
promise lines are loaded. When the lines are loaded, I
go right to the calls. Thomas in Florida. You're going
to kick us off, Thomas, Thanks for holding and welcome.
Good morning, Hi Thomas.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
Yes I have I have other thoughts of distant little
research over night. I think this is far more complicated
than you know. It started with the Press Secretary Caroline
love It. She don't want to give the game away.
But I think China. I heard rumors that China wants

(16:54):
to broke of this cease fire because if this goes
off in a big way nuclear wise, everybody loses because
of radiation and that kind of contamination. And if they
wipe out a Ran with a nuclear weapon, even though
it's strategical, it could go get out of hand and
those people in Iran, the citizens lose, the whole world losing.

(17:18):
I think China has a has a real motive, like
having to do with the oil that i Ran provides them.
So that's a lot more complicated. And I trust Trump
his way in all these things. Even though he's not
given the game away, he's close, pulling his cats, close

(17:38):
to the best.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
What do you say, well, Thomas, what I love about Trump? Again?
I think so far, I'm just being brutally honest. I
think this is a masterclass in statesmanship. I think he's
threading the needle. To me, I don't know how you
can threat a needle in the midst of a war
like this, but he's done it. The way I compare
it is it's almost a perfect aim of chess. Now

(18:01):
it's not over, it's not checkmate, it's close to checkmate.
But think about it. He's given Israel everything it needs
and then some to pull off one of the most
spectacular military victories really in the history of the world.
The Mullas now are on the point of falling. They're
very close. Their nuclear infrastructure is now shattered, it's in tatters.

(18:27):
There's still more to go, but the Mullas have been
substantially degraded. And yet without us getting formally involved, he's
kept China, Russia and Pakistan at bay, and he's still
giving the Mullas one last chance, and I don't think
they're going to take it. By the way, I think

(18:48):
it's a noble thing on the part of Trump. I
agree with his decision. I think he can go to
the world and say, even as the regime was crumbling
around them, I gave them one last chance to end this,
and they still slap me in the face. So I
think he's dotting his eyes.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Regarding the ongoing situation in Iran, I know there has
been a lot of speculation amongst all of you in
the media regarding the President's decision making and whether or
not the United States will be directly involved. In light
of that news, I have a message directly from the President,
and I quote based on the fact that there's a
substantial chance of negotiations that may or may not take

(19:28):
place with Iran in the near future. I will make
my decision whether or not to go within the next
two weeks.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
That was Press Secretary Caroline Levitt basically saying bombing Iran,
at least from the United States's point of view, us
getting directly involved and formally joining israel Is. They're pumping
the brakes for now. For now, Trump is pulling back.
But as he said just the day before, I may

(19:58):
bomb Iran, I may not Bomberran. He's going to keep
his cards very close to his vest. So my question
to you, Trump says he wants to give diplomacy a
diplomatic solution, one last kick at the can good move,
bad move, Agree, disagree? Jeff Cooner Boston's Bulldozer six thirty five,

(20:26):
Now on the Great WRKO just quickly, lines are jammed.
I just want to read two messages I got on messenger.
This is from Mark, and I think Mark makes a
really good point. Jeff, I'm glad President Trump is pulling
back and taking his time in making a decision whether

(20:46):
to send our bombers in to drop those big bunker busters.
Iran did mention they can finish the job themselves, so
I say them. But on a side note, Jeff I
really don't trust Europe on making any deals with Iran.

(21:07):
Oh Mark, I agree with you. I agree with you.
Look my understanding. I could be wrong, but I'm just
going by what the administration has said, what I've read
in media reports that this is more they're kind of
feeling out the Iranians. This huge and it is a
very big peace conference that they're holding in Geneva, Switzerland.

(21:30):
The European foreign ministers are going to meet with the Iranians.
They're negotiating team, and basically they want to know, are
you know these non negotiables that Trump has told them
no enrichment whatsoever at all and no nuclear bomb whatsoever.

(21:50):
Can Iran accept those two key provisions? And I think
we'll pretty much know very quickly how serious the Molas are. Now.
I think this is such a fanatical regime. I think
that the Ayatola and the crazies around him, these Shia lunatics,

(22:11):
these Muslim fundamentalists, they're still even in the midst of
this historic military collapse that we're witnessing now over the
past week, they're still gonna say no, They're still gonna
quibble because and you may disagree with me, because in

(22:31):
the end. What will the Mullas have if they give
up their nuclear weapons ambitions. Remember, the whole purpose of
the regime is to bring about the end of days,
what they call the twelfth fee mom, a world Muslim
empire in which Israel is wiped out in a great
ball of fire and there is a nuclear holocaust. So

(22:56):
no nukes. Well, to be more accurate, no enrichment, no nukes,
no nukes, no twelfthy mom. So to these religious zealous,
these fanatics, they cannot give up the possibility of the bomb.
Now they can have a nuclear weapons program on ice.

(23:19):
They'll live with that. In other words, wait, Remember these
people think in centuries, so you know they will wait
twenty years, thirty years, forty years, because for them it's
all about the end of the world. But so they'll wait.

(23:40):
But to give up the weapons program never now Again,
you never know hand of God. Sometimes reason does, you know, prevail.
Sometimes self preservation kicks in. And I think that's what
Trump is hoping for, that someone who se and rational

(24:01):
in that regime signs on the dotted line before we
go on, whether we join the war or not, before
this regime implodes, and we may have anarchy chaos and
maybe even civil war in Iran. And that's and Trump
understands that he's not a stupid man, and just quickly

(24:24):
think about it. If the regime falls, there's no guarantee
you're gonna have a stable regime that's gonna replace it.
So you've got all of these nuclear sites. Now, yes
they're damaged, some are destroyed, they're in pieces, but you've
got them all over the country. You've got a regime

(24:44):
now that has collapsed. Just play out the scenario. If
Iran plunges into anarchy, chaos, and civil war, You've got
terrorist groups that could come in grab parts of that
nuclear program, may maybe even grab parts of these enrichment
capabilities or centrifuges. In other words, a completely destabilized Iran

(25:11):
could lead to terrorist groups getting the bomb through the
back door by infiltrating Iran as the country is essentially
coming apart at the seams. So the Trump is getting
fed all of this information. So if people are saying, well,
why is he so determined to end this diplomatically, Because

(25:33):
he's not a fool. He knows. Okay, Yeah, the Mullas fall, great,
and then what comes after them? Now, if the people
rise up and they overthrow the Mullas and you have
a genuine, viable, alternative success or government. That's something else.
But if the war just goes on and on and on,

(25:55):
and Israel is just hammering, hammering, hammering, and then the
Mulla's just it's just collapse, then you've got chaos everywhere,
and it could lead to a war, a civil war.
It could lead to ISIS or al Qaeda or other
terrorist groups coming in and seizing parts of that broken

(26:16):
nuclear program for themselves. So that's why Trump is determined
to push diplomacy to the absolute possible limit. Agree, disagree.
Joe in Atlanta, Georgia. Thanks for holding Joe.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
And welcome Hey Jeff Bulldozer saying in the South, thank you,
thank you, Joe. Three points you're going to find that disagree.
I would really love for you to address them. Sure,
perth one is I don't remember you or many other
people complaining when Trump bombed Syria, he bombed Solimani, and

(26:55):
he bombed the Hohofies. I don't understand the difference. As
far as you're thinking the delay would help with the
media that they're going to say, oh yeah, Trump waited,
Come on, you know that's not going to happen. And lastly,
what may bother me even the most is this is
a week old story already. Now you're extending it two

(27:18):
more weeks. What happened with immigration in La. We were
on the cusp of breaking the whole immigration culture by
saving La. And I'm just scared that. I know he
can walk in chew gum, but look at the media
every night, and now you're prolonging it two more weeks.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Just very quickly, I want to answer Joe because he
made some very good points. Actually, Joe in Atlanta, No, Joe, look,
you're completely right. Look, immigration now is on the back burner.
No one's talking about what's going on in Portland, in LA,
in Chicago, very dramatic developments taking place. It's all Iran

(27:59):
around the claw. And to be fair, because we're potentially
about to enter a war against a major Middle East
power that has the backing of China, Russia and Pakistan.
So it could lead to a regional war, it could lead,
even God forbid, to a world war. And this is

(28:20):
what Trump is also talking about personally. He goes, look
at how my agenda is already being thwarted and I'm
just talking about maybe entering the war once I go in.
If my generals don't deliver a very quick, decisive, knockout victory,

(28:41):
my immigration agenda is in trouble, My big beautiful Bill
is in trouble. A lot of what I need to
accomplish as president is going to be utterly derailed and upended.
So I think that's another reason why, frankly, he wants
to give diplomacy another chance. Now as to your large point, Joe, look,
I opposed the bombing in Syria under Trump. I thought

(29:04):
it was a mistake. And in that bombing campaign then
Bishar Asaud was the dictator of Syria, we killed nearly
one hundred Russian soldiers. The media downplayed that, but the
fact is it wasn't quite one hundred. It was maybe
with ninety two ninety four anyway, don't quote me, but
it was over ninety Russian soldiers, almost one hundred. Vladimir

(29:28):
Putin had a cost his bella to go to war
with US that could have led legitimately to World War III.
So I opposed that war, and we were very lucky
that it was putin that backed down. And you mentioned, well, Jeff,
you know what about the Huthi's in Yemen. Well, look

(29:50):
the Yemen again, just countries matter. Iran is a big country,
ninety two million stritch, strategically placed in the Middle East,
and it's got a very very important asset oil, oil,
and not just oil that it's swimming in liquid gold.

(30:13):
But it sells this oil to both China, Pakistan and Russia,
especially China, so Iran has very powerful backers. They are
essentially a client state of China and Russia. And not
to get too into the weeds here, but this is

(30:33):
also important. It neighbors countries like Iraq and Saudi Arabia
and United Arab Emirates and Qatar and Kuwait, and so
a lot of the oil that comes from those countries
from the Persian Gulf area goes right along Iran through
the Strait of Hormuz. So the Mullahs could mine the

(30:56):
Strait of Hormuz. In fact, they're threatening to do that,
which would cut off most of the world's oil supply,
which would send oil prices skyrocketing. We're talking massive price shocks,
which would lead to massive inflation and you know people
paying I mean, I'm I don't know. Eight ten, twelve,

(31:19):
fifteen dollars a gallon at the pump. So what I'm
saying is because of its strategic location and the consequences
of going to war with Iran, it's much The steaks
are infinitely higher. The consequences are much more profound than Yemen,
which is a very poor country, no oil, no resources,

(31:42):
barren It's been split in a horrible civil war. And yes,
the Huthis are a proxy of Iran, but they only
control a part of Yemen. So they harass us on
the Red Sea. They can launch some missiles, go after
our shipping, but they can't do damage to the region,
to the world, to us the way Iran can. So

(32:05):
that's why Iran is. The decision to go to war
is very different regarding Iran than it is to hammer
the Huthies. Now, just very quickly, and I just want
to read this from Larry on Messenger because I think
he hit the nail right on the head all this talk.
If you remember Trump is a warmonger, remember that Trump

(32:27):
is Hitler. Here, let me ask all of you, if
Hitler had a chance to go to war, you think
Hitler would be pushing for the negotiation after negotiation after negotiation,
and saying I don't want to do it. I really
don't want to do it. No, remember this is what
Larry wrote. But Jeff Trump is an unstable maniac who

(32:51):
is going to lead all of us into World War three.
Well again, another lie, another myth. Trump is a man
of peace. He wants peace in the Middle East, he
wants peace in Ukraine, he wants peace for the United States.
And then Larry does make a point, and I'm gonna

(33:13):
mention it, but I'd like to have this discussion maybe
a little bit later in the show. But I think
he really makes a good point. Jeff, can we trust
the intelligence community the same one that claimed weapons of
mass destruction in Iraq? And I want to play the
cut from Caroline Levitt. Let me throw this log on

(33:35):
the fire. Here is what she said yesterday. She's saying,
you know, she said, look, we want to give piece
a chance. She said Trump believes there is a substantial
chance that negotiations will work. But she says, make no
doubt about it. Iran now has never been closer to
obtaining a nuclear weapon that according to what our intelligence

(34:00):
community now says, they are three weeks away before the
bombing campaign by Israel last week they are three weeks
they were three weeks away from acquiring the bomb. Roll
cut to a mic.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
When the President says Iran is very close to a
nuclear weapon, is he relying on you, as intelligence or
intelligence sharing from an ally.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
To make that assessment?

Speaker 3 (34:28):
It is a fact in the United States government maintains
this fact that Iran has never been closer to obtaining
a nuclear weapon.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
I want to see evidence for that. I want to
see the evidence again. Look, they clearly have an active
nuclear weapons program, no question quite. That's why they have
all these enrichment facilities. So it's off. Yes, but this claim. Now,
when they say it's a member, they kept saying, well,

(34:58):
WMD's it's a fact. It's a fact. No, I'm sorry.
We all due respect. I don't care who the government is,
who's in power. I don't care when the intelligence community
says something. I don't trust them anymore. Show me the receipts,
show me the evidence. I want proof. I no longer

(35:22):
trust the deep state. I don't trust the intelligence community
I want I'm not gonna go by blind faith. I'm
not just gonna say, well, okay, if you tell us so. No,
I'm not saying Trump shouldn't bomb. I'm saying I am
saying you shouldn't bomb for now, and I support Israel's
bombing campaign. But if you're gonna try to tell me

(35:46):
we have to go to war now, now, now, because
they're three weeks away from the bomb, show me the proof.
I need to see the proof, because I'm sorry. You've
you've lost, you've you've lost that privilege. Maybe forty fifty

(36:07):
years ago I would have said, Okay, with their track record,
I believe them, But after all of the lies of
the deep state, all of the lies of the intelligence community, no,
I'm sorry, I don't believe it anymore. I don't believe it.
So you may claim it's a fact until you show
us the evidence. I'm gonna I'm sorry, it's not a fact. Agree, disagree.

(36:32):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight.
Lou in Rhode Island. Thanks for holding Lou and welcome.

Speaker 5 (36:44):
Yeah, good morning, Jeff. I don't want I don't want
to get sidetracked, but I want to do answer wort
to answer that thing about the three weeks. No matter
whether they have the three it's three weeks or not.
I'm not sure about that either I'm doubtful about that
or a question that anyway, the fact is that they
do have twelve or more are hidden facilities there. They're
they're located very deep inside the UH, inside the earth there,

(37:06):
inside the mountains there. So they have the facilities that
that are that we need to dismantle. Okay, that's that's
for that's for absolute certainty. Whether it's whether it's for
three weeks or not, I don't know. But the thing
is is that that's that's an important thing. Now a
couple before I get throughly my main point, I think
I mentioned two things you're talking about. You talk about Pakistani,
talk about China. Now, Pakistan and China may not be

(37:30):
so invested in Iran anymore because President Trump has made
some deals with them, and I think they want our
markets and they want their their success of their economy
more than they want to like back this crazy Mullet
regime in Iran. And I think Trump is great at
making those deals surrounding Iran and surrounding this area with
China and Pakistan to maybe weaken their support of of

(37:53):
Iran and maybe even assuring China and Pakistan of getting
oil as well. So I mean I think he I mean,
let me face it, did they put it this way?
I'm answering your question. He's been brilliant in this whole thing,
the whole way, and almost every phase of everything he's doing,
including now I think we're still shipping people out in
this country and I just still rounding people up, and
now that now nobody's watching them, but they're still doing it.

(38:16):
He's been brilliant in every thing that he's been involved in,
and I've sort of trusted in these two weeks. I mean,
it's amazing. I think he's trying to assess a lot
of things. Number One, he's trying to assess what kind
of opposition the Ballas have in Iran. I mean the
people there have been oppressed. I mean Iran. He's basically
been like Hamas, taking all the money they have and

(38:37):
putting it to terrorism, to their military, to building nuclear facilities,
but neglecting the people who are suffering from high inflation
and oppression and all kinds of things. Remember, they still
have twenty thousand women who are locked up for not
wearing haj hadgis or whatever they're called. Jobs. He jobs, right,
and they've been oppressing their people but he doesn't know

(39:01):
if there is any kind of organized opposition or anybody
ready to take over. I know that the Shaw has
been talking pretty much lately, but we don't know that
for sure. But he has given him himself time to
assess this situation. As far as the moms are concerned,
they remember they are allowed to lie to infidels. And
they're exactly like the Democrats who are who lied, who

(39:21):
lie to us too because they hate us too. I mean,
it's amazing how the Democrats and the Jihadis are exactly
alike in their opposition to the US and Israel. And uh,
and I think that we can't trust them. Of course,
it's not trust by if, but verify anymore, it's verify
and dismantle. That should be the case right now. And

(39:41):
maybe he could pull off a deal, but the deal
also has to also have to consider that there might
be opposition in Iran, that the people in the van
may want totally new government or at least weaken Nambola's government.
And and we've done, like assess all of that stuff
and uh, and then let Israel do its job while
while we're trying to talk. And if they and you know,

(40:03):
even if they have a nuke, if their delivery system
has told me to stab them and I can't be
able to deliver it. So that's a good thing too.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
That's lou, that's you're making by the way you are
hitting every point, it's you're on fire. Your last one,
I think is almost like the culmination. Look, that's the
thing now, that that's the crisis that's facing the Mullas forget. Okay,
you're right, if they even have a nuke, say they
have a secret nuke, they're coming dangerously close to not

(40:31):
having the means to deliver it. Because Israel is now
so systematically eliminating all of their missile launchers. That's what's incredible.
So over two thirds now they're saying seventy percent, seventy
percent of their missile launchers are gone, destroyed, disabled, whatever

(40:53):
you want to say. So they're down to just about
one hundred missile launchers now, maybe even just a little
bit less. And by the way, they hit more of
them last night, and they hit more of their production
facilities to make missile launchers. So look, Bbe said it.
He goes, Look it's going to take a little I
think by time he means like a week. But he's like,

(41:14):
it's going to take you a little bit of time.
It's step by step by step. I'm cutting off your hand,
then I cut off the left arm, then I cut
off your right hand, Then I cut off your right arm.
Then I cut off your left foot, then I cut
off your left leg, then I cut off your right foot,
then I cut off your right leg, and pretty soon

(41:34):
you're dead. And that's what he's doing. It's just peace
by peace, surgical, clean, concise, devastating. And look, Lou, I
think Trump has made his decision. I think his decision
was made yesterday. Now again you may disagree, the audience
may disagree at the pace that this war is going.

(41:58):
And again Trump is right. He's a wise man. He's experienced,
so you know, he's seventy nine years old. He's seen
a lot of the world. Wars can turn, wars are
never predictable. No war ever goes exactly like you think
it's gonna go. That's why you have to have all
these contingencies in place. So I want to state that

(42:18):
up front. But if the war continues the way it's
going now and the Mullas continue to retreat and you
continue to see them collapse and implode. This thing is
over in two weeks. What I mean is before even
Trump makes his decision, Iran's gonna win this war if

(42:41):
they have no missile launchers left, say by early next week.
If this continues, then it's like a fighter who's got
both arms down and can't throw a punch. Then at
that point Iran is defenseless, and then Israel can reign
death and destruction at will and just hit him and

(43:05):
hit him and hit him again and again. So what
I'm saying is Trump may be saying, look, I'm going
to give myself two weeks. It gives the opposition time
to mobilize and organize the internal opposition in Iran. I
am going to give the Mulla's one last chance because
I would like to see this end in a way

(43:26):
that doesn't increase the possibility or the threat of radioactivity
contamination from the constant bombing. And you know, we are
worried about regime change in the sense of what's going
to come after. I don't want to see any I
Raan in a civil war and chaos. So yeah, we'd
like to end this the quicker the better. But he's

(43:46):
also thinking, why should I come in when the Israelis
now are on the verge of pulling off maybe one
of the greatest military victories in the history of warfare.
By the time I make my two week window done,
by the time it closes, t Iranians are finished. The Mullahs,
I mean, the Ayatolas are done, They've lost. So what

(44:12):
I'm saying is his decision to not make a decision
is a decision. Basically to me, it's wink wink, bb
you finish it, because honestly, I don't see this war
lasting more than another two weeks, at least not at
the rate that it's going now. And I can't believe

(44:35):
I'm saying this again. I don't want to repeat myself.
I said it yesterday, but it bears repeating. This is
akin to the collapse of France in nineteen forty. I'm
talking about a military defeat that people still talk about.
It's like when Napoleon shattered the Austrian army in eighteen

(44:56):
oh seven. It was one of the greatest I mean,
this was the my the Austrian army, and Napoleon wiped
him out in days. The world couldn't believe it, and
frankly Austria, the Austrian Empire never recovered France never. I
don't believe France is ever truly recovered from their defeat
in nineteen forty. Culturally, socially, spiritually, you know, nationally, they've

(45:22):
never been the same. The Mullahs are radical. Islam is
never going to be the same. If this war continues
the way it is, if they collapse the way they're
collapsing now this continues, I mean, you want to talk
about a paper tiger. So again, I don't want to

(45:42):
get ahead of myself. So I think, honestly, Trump looking
at everything coming in, it's all with him, and he's right,
it's cost benefit, and he's like, there's a big cost
to us entering the war. You know, as the expression,
you break it, you own it. So are we. And
you know we're gonna be involved in Iran. Now we're
gonna be sending potentially our planes, our bombers. If the

(46:05):
regime falls, we're gonna be there to have to pick
it up with the pieces back together China, and may
trigger China and may trigger Russia. You never know, it
may derail my entire domestic agenda because now I got
to go to Congress, maybe ask for authorization. All people
are gonna talk about now because US forces are engaged.
Once US forces are engaged, the American public is completely engaged.

(46:28):
It knocks everything out, and Trump saying, okay, and what's
the benefit? Okay, four dough, I get it. But Israel
has said they can do four dough without us if
need be, we can potentially, we can make this work.
We can train Israeli pilots, we can give them a
stealth bomber and drop a couple of these bunker busters.

(46:51):
So they can even do that for US. So I
get big costs, little benefit. Let me wait, part of
the deal. What Trump is doing now, Think of a
man on a high wire. He's on a wire, there's

(47:11):
no safety net underneath, and he's walking and he's keeping
his cards very close to his chest. That's what he's doing.
I may bomb, I may not bomb. He has the
mullas now in naughts. They're under tremendous pressure, massive military

(47:32):
build up. He's in their heads. They don't know if
he will if he won't, And all they know is
Israel is hammering them day and night, day and night.
So far, it's a masterclass. Lou thank you very much
for that call. Six one seven two six six sixty

(47:56):
eight sixty eight. And I just want to say one
last thing because I was talking about this with Grace
last night. She said, well, you know, hey, what are
you gonna lead with today like on today's show? I said,
more obviously, and you know the developments and that Trump
now is going to give another two weeks and he
wants to give diplomacy a chance. And I said, you know,

(48:18):
this is one of the most momentous moments in history
we're living through. I'm telling you, this war, this presidency,
this moment is going to be written about for hundreds
of years. This is one of these battles, this is
one of these military campaigns. I agree with Victor Davis

(48:39):
Hansen completely. This could be the This could now be
the moment that fundamentally transforms the Middle East and the
United States and the direction of the world. And what
you're seeing with Trump coolness under fire, higher coolness under pressure.

(49:03):
He's not allowing anyone to stampede him or pressure him,
or push him into making a decision that he believes
is not in the national interest of the United States.
He's not being dragoon to war, and for that I

(49:23):
tipped my hat off to him.
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