Ukraine's price for peace

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Two six six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay,
lines are blazing. I want to hear from you. Do
you expect any breakthroughs today at this historic meeting at
the White House? Very quickly following I mean lightning speed,
frankly following upon the highly successful Alaska summit between Trump

(00:26):
and Putin. Now President Trump is going to be meeting
not just with Zelenski, He's meeting with Prime Minister Kerr
Starmer of Britain, Macron of France, Maloney of Italy, Mertz
of Germany, the head of the EU, NATO Secretary General rut.
I mean, everybody is coming. There's a sense now that

(00:50):
we are close to an overall piece deal, and it
could be the provision that puts it over the top.
The key detail America willing to give a security guarantee
to Ukraine. Are you for it? Are you against it?
Six one seven two six sex sixty eight sixty eight.

(01:15):
Dan in north Over, Thanks for holding.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Dan, and welcome good morning, Jeff, Jeff Dan. I think
as soon as I heard this, my stomach turned because
they're getting they're getting exactly what they want me what
you call it, They're getting exactly what they wanted. But
I gotta say this so I you know, I spent

(01:39):
some time in d C. I represent a group that
lobbies especially the Florida contingency, and I've actually I've met
with Rubio on a few occasions. There's always been something
about Rubio that I didn't trust, and I don't, you know,
call it a hit, you know, a hunch, call it,
But there's always been something I didn't trust about Rubio.
But that said, last month I was in Budapest, spent

(02:03):
a lot of time talking to the locals. There are
billboards up with Zelenski as a marionette puppet everywhere, like everywhere.
That's how much they think of them, right, it's pretty scary.
I think that I think that it is since was

(02:24):
pre set, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
I think that I.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Think that Trump kind of has got roped into it.
I don't think he's got a lot of choice at
this point. But no, I'm definitely definitely against it.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Dan, I'm just I'd love to get your take on this.
Zelensky and the Europeans. I've been hammering this point now
for forty eight to seventy two hours. They're almost trying
to bully Bully's a bit of a strong word. But
they're trying to browbe Trump into giving this security guarantee

(02:58):
to Ukraine. And they keep saying over and over again,
you weren't elected by the Ukrainian people to give up
any territory, which is true. Trump wasn't elected by the
Ukrainian people. But he's not telling Ukraine to give up anything.
He's the mediator, he's the middle guy, he's the you know,
he's the guy that's trying to resolve this conflict. And

(03:20):
he's saying, look, this is Russia's price. It's three and
a half years of fighting. They basically want what they occupy.
Now are you willing to give that up? And Zolenski
turns around and at least through back channels, publicly he's
saying something very different, But through back channels he says,

(03:40):
I can swallow it, but I basically I want a
NATO style Article five style guarantee. Not from Britain, not
from France, not from Germany. No, no, no, no, from you
from the United States. Now, this is what I don't
get that who elected Zelenski. Zolensky's term expired. He's an

(04:06):
illegal president. He has no democratic mandate, Makran has no
mandate on behalf of the Ukrainians.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Kar Starmer has.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
No mandate, the EU has no mandate, NATO has no mandate.
So what mandate do they have to negotiate on behalf
of the Ukrainian people? I mean, Dan, am I wrong?

Speaker 2 (04:30):
You're not wrong, Jeff, But you know who elected him.
We elected him, Jeff, We put him there. And what
forty eight hours? What's seventy two hours? This started in
probably twenty twelve or thirteen, but definitely in fourteen when
they when the Ukrainian paramilitary groups started launching scrimmages on
the border with Russia, Right Russia. Why did Russia get

(04:53):
you know, worked up because they were getting pushed into
it jet you know, and you get you know, when
you go over in Budapest and you talk to the
talk to the locals that know what's going on there, way, way,
way more informed than we are, and they will tell
you exactly what you and I knew in twenty seventeen.

(05:14):
But it's I tell you just you know what, what's
the end in this?

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Right?

Speaker 2 (05:19):
We turn over military bases in the most corrupt country
in the world, Jez. We turn over a military basis.
How much money is going to get Tilford then.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Dan, I wish I could disagree with you, but I can't.
You're absolutely dead on And look, just to play this out,
and thank you for that call, Dan, Look, just to
play this out. This is not some you know, just
you know, a piece of paper that everybody signs and
let's all go home. This means we're gonna have US
troops in Ukraine. We're gonna have our military basis in Ukraine,

(05:58):
so well Britain, so we'll France, SOI, Italy, sobil Germany,
so will other countries. We're going to be giving the
Ukrainians weapons. All this is going to be sold on
the international black market. This is the most you know,
along with Russia, Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe,
one of the most corrupt countries in the world. So

(06:21):
that means it's going to continue to be the money
laundering capital of the of Europe. Our weapons that we
give them, again, good luck. If fifty percent of it
actually ends up on the ground, much of it is
going to be stolen. So again, I just I go
back to this again and again, this is what the
globalists wanted. Look, in a way, Biden wins with this.

(06:44):
Zelensky to me, wins with this. What did they want?
They wanted NATO in Ukraine? But why NATO to have
America in ukrainef Coon or Boston's bulldozer. Six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay,
my friends, this is, believe me, the question of the hour,

(07:05):
the question of the day, and in many ways now
the question of our time. They'll be meeting later today
in the White House. Nothing has yet been agreed to.
I want to stress this so again. This is something
now that Trump is very seriously considering it. Rubio behind
the scenes is pushing it hard. So is Steve Whitkoff,

(07:27):
President Trump's special envoy. It is being furiously resisted by
Jay d Vance others as well. Behind the scenes, General
Flynn is simplease don't do it. Bannon now is basically
doing what I'm doing now, trying to galvanize opposition to
this idea. But as things stand right now, Trump, following

(07:50):
up on his absolutely spectacular summit with Putin in Alaska,
where he got Putin to budge on many many issues
they moved so far so quickly, Trump said, let's not
even bother talking about a ceasefire. Let's talk about a
final peace agreement, a deal that will end the war permanently,

(08:17):
and Putin said he's willing to do it. So he
called Zelenski, he called the European leaders, he called NATO
today at the White House, Zelenski along with the leaders
of Great Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Finland, the NATO's NATO
Secretary General, the head of the EU. They're all coming.

(08:42):
Everybody is now coming. Trump believes they are on the
verge of ending the war between Russia and Ukraine. It
appears that Zelenski is willing to make concessions on territory
in private, publicly saying he won't see it an inch
of territory. Privately, he's acknowledging I'm gonna have to give

(09:05):
territory up. The Russians hold it. There's not much we
can do to stop it, to expel them. They're just
too strong. He's willing to make a deal and make concessions,
but his price is security guarantees going into the future.
Britain has said they'll give it. Francis said they'll give

(09:26):
it incredibly. Even Germany, with the history they have World
War Two in that part of the world. The Germans
say they're willing to give it. The Italians under Maloney
are saying they will secure Ukraine's borders and even put
an Italian military base. Zelensky says that's great, but that's

(09:48):
not enough to deter Putin or his successor in the future.
We need the big fish, the American Sea, as they say,
the big Americans. We we need Trump's signature on the
dotted line. He must commit the United States to permanent
military security guarantees, which means we will continue to give

(10:12):
Ukraine weapons, build up their military even after the war ends.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
And yes, either an.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Air base a military base, but we will have US
troops stationed in Ukraine. And if something happens in the future,
any war breaks out between Ukraine, not just with Russia,
with any other country, we are then obligated by law

(10:40):
to get a militarily side with Ukraine and get involved
in a war. I believe, at a bare minimum, it
must be approved by Congress. The American people must have
their say, and I'm telling you right now, no security guarantees.

(11:00):
If the Europeans want to give it, great, but no
US security guarantee over my dead body, I disagree.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
What say you?

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight.
Let me just play the Witkof cut again. This is
Special Envoy Steve Whitcoff. He met with Putin over a
month ago. He was with Trump and Rubio. It was
a three on three meeting Putin and his two top

(11:32):
people with Trump, Rubio and Witkof. Witkoff said, this was
the big breakthrough on Friday, and that has pushed everything.
Now we are on the cusp of a potential piece
deal roll cut. This was a Witcough on CNN roll
cut thirteen. Dan.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
We got to an agreement that the United States and
other other European nations could effectively offer Article five like
language to cover a security guarantee. So Putin has said
that a red flag is NATO admission, right, and so
what we were discussing was assuming that that held, assuming

(12:20):
that the Ukrainians could agree to that and could live
with that, and everything is going to be in is
going to be about what the Ukrainians can live with.
But assuming they could, we were able to win the
following concession that the United States could offer Article five
like protection, which would which is the if, which is

(12:42):
one of the real reasons why Ukraine wants to be
in NATO. We sort of were able to bypass that
and get an agreement that the that the United States
could offer Article five protection, which was the first time
we had ever heard the Russians agreed to that.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Russia's gonna make concessions, Ukraine's gonna make concessions. But now
it looks like war gonna have to make. The United
States is gonna have to make not a little concession,
massive concessions to get this peace deal. How the hell
did we get involved in the middle of this? Seriously,

(13:23):
how is this now suddenly our war? I'm against it,
but I want to hear from you now quickly listen
to President Trump. This was after the Naval summit, sorry,
after the Alaska summit. Forgive me now he's being trashed
by the media, just to show you, honestly, how stupid.
Forgive me, but how how clueless, how rabid, how defamatory

(13:50):
the media is. They don't even know what the hell
they've agreed to. Behind the seats, they're yelling and screaming.
How dairy shake Putin's hand.

Speaker 6 (14:00):
He rolled out the red carpit he slapped him on
the back. He even rolled into peace with Trump, he
elevated him, My God, my God, and we got nothing
in return. Instead, Trump was trying to tell them, you
have no idea. I played Putin like a fiddle. I

(14:23):
warmed him up, I stroked his ego. He's now willing
to end the slaughter and the butchery. But there's one
big hurdle left. Roll cut to Mike.

Speaker 7 (14:40):
Mister President, that was very profound, And I will say
that I believe we had a very productive meeting. There
were many many points that we agreed on, most of them,
I would say, a couple of big ones that we
haven't quite gotten there, but we've made some headway. So
there's Zodia until there's a deal. I will call up

(15:02):
NATO in a little while. I will call up the
various people that I think are appropriate, and of course
call up presidents a Lensky and tell them about today's meeting.
It's ultimately up to them, and I have to agree
with what Marco and Steve and some of the great
people from the Trump administration who've come here, Scott and

(15:25):
John Ratcliffe, thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Now, of course, the big, the big, the big deal right.
The big the big detail is we've put Article five
style guarantees to Ukraine, meaning an attack an attack on
Ukraine would be considered an attack on the United States.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
And obviously there would be.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Britain and France and other countries would sign as well.
It wouldn't be NATO, it would go around NATO. But
in a sense an essence, we'd be on the hook. Now,
Zelensky willing to take this in exchange for giving up
don Bass. Pretty much, it's twenty percent of Ukraine. It's
one fifth of the country's territory, all located.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
In the east. That's that, he goes.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
I need Zelenski, I need the Europeans and Zelensky to
buy in. They buy in. We got ourselves a deal.
So let me ask all of you. Good deal, bad deal?
I just can I just say this, What do we
get out of it?

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Again? I keep asking.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
I mean, I know we get peace and the end
of a possible nuclear war between these two sides. I
get that, But concretely, I know what Russia gets. Russia
gets territory, a lot of it. What does Ukraine get
to get the Americans backing them?

Speaker 3 (16:50):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
They keep eighty percent of their country and the path
is now clear to the EU, to the West and
any future war. They've got a America now writing shotgun.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
But what do we get. Hell, we don't even.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Get the rare earth minerals because the Russians occupy most
of that. It's it's it's in there, it's in their territory.
Jeff Cooner Boston's bulldozer six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight is the number okay to give
security guarantees or not give security guarantees. That is now

(17:30):
the question where do you stand. Trump is meeting with
the Europeans and of course Zelensky later today in a
make or break meeting. If they go ahead and if
they accept Trump's offer of security guarantees, we are heading
for a final meeting, probably this Friday, a trilateral meeting

(17:54):
between Russia, Ukraine and of course Donald Trump. To me,
security guarantees is too high a price. But that's the
Cooner man. John Ian Lowell, Thanks for holding John.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
And welcome morning. Jeff. Hi John, Jeff, You and Dan
kind of killed me, but I'm going to say it anyway.
So we're going to back a guy who was basically
installed by the CIA that runs the biggest money laundering
operation in the history of the world. It feeds money
back to our corrupt, dirt bag politicians in Washington that

(18:31):
hasn't held an election to decide if he's even president.
It came to the White House and disrespected it like
no other so called world wea ever has, which means
he's directed. He's disrespected the American people, Jeff, not just
the Lighthouse, but us too. And Jeff, we don't even
get Okay, how about this, you old elections. How about this?

(18:52):
We want to know who the money went back to,
because we know that the money came back here, Jeff,
and now, and I very rarely disagree with you, but
we're going to send this to the House, to the
Senate and Congress, the same people who have been taking
the money. We can't trust them, Jeff, Come on, we

(19:14):
can't trust them at all.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
John, that's a good point. That's a very good point.
H And John, just to piggyback off of what you're saying,
we don't even get the Ukrainians, Like, how do I
say this? It's a one way security guarantee, like we're
pledged to defend them forever. But they're not pledged to
defend us. You know the thing I like about Poland John,

(19:36):
to be honest, the reason why I respect the polls
so much. Look, they're in a very tough neighborhood. Historically
they've been between Germany and Russia, and now it's Russia obviously.
But you know, say what you want about the Poles.
They spend five percent of their GDP on defense. They
have a modern, serious military, and they always want to

(19:57):
join us in every war that we fight. In other words,
like they want to be true strategic partners where they say, look,
we're asking you to defend us in NATO, but we
want you to know we're here to defend you too.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
I e.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Friendship is a two way street. So you go to
war for us, but we'll go to war for you.
So I respect the polls. It's honorable, Okay, it's it's
a relationship based on mutual respect and admiration with these
shysters in Ukraine, in the capital Kive. So it's all

(20:32):
one way. Give us money, give, give, give give us weapons,
give give, give give us security guarantees give give give
and what do you give back? Like, what do we
get out of it? So say we were to go
to I don't know war with Iran. I don't mean
just make up a country. Is Ukraine obligated to come

(20:55):
and help us? No, if God forbid we get attacked
by China or any other country our country's invaded. Is
Ukraine obligated to defend our borders? No yet, as the
Russians would say, so it's always one sided with them.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
They take, take, take, and now.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
They're taking the most important thing we have, our young
men and women are military, our security guarantee. We will
now be committed to fighting a forever war on behalf
of Ukraine. I'm sorry, it's it's insanity. I know Rubio

(21:41):
loves it. I know Witkoff loves it. Lindsey Graham is
I mean the guys really the guys on Cloud nine.
Lindsey Graham has been pushing this now for months. He's
like a kid in a candy store. He can't believe it.
And Hillary loves it. That's why they're you know, they're

(22:02):
dangling now this Nobel Peace Prize in front of Trump.
But in the end, he said, we would never ever
protect Ukraine's borders, commit ourselves to pledge for that kind
of a security guarantee and Trump is now very close
to signing that deal. And if he signs that deal, John,

(22:23):
I believe many MAGA, many MAGA supporters are going to
be extremely demoralized and upset. Agree, disagree, Jess.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
Wendsey. Graham's so happy because he's probably the number one
receiver of these funds. He's probably the one who's organizing,
who gets paid. All right, now leave it alone, back out.
I'm hoping and I'm playing to God that he is
doing in saying this to try to draw out some
more of the scumbags like Rubyo, because I don't trust him.

(22:56):
As far as I can throw you, Jack, I can
throw Ruby out, little man, I can't throw you.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
No, I'm way too big. I mean I'm way too
heavy in the midsection. That's too much weight. Nobody can
throw me, John, John, thank you as always, great call.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Thank you very much for that call.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number Jerry.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
On the cape on Cape Cod.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Thanks for holding Jerry, and welcome comrade comrade.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
How are you, my friend?

Speaker 8 (23:32):
Very well, Jeff. This is a sucker's move here. Something
doesn't this doesn't have the smell test. And you know,
for a while there I was hopeful about Rubio. But
he's a gang of ake guy, he's a globalist. He's
in with Lindsey Graham, and he was in with mcmaniac
and all the other idiots. So I think I was

(23:56):
hoping for too much out of him. But Jeff, let's
think about this for a minute. How could it be
that Armenia and Azuba, Jhan, India and Pakistan, Rwanda and
the Congo, Cambodia and Thailand, Serbian Kosovo, Israel, in the
Gazans and in the West Bank, and now Ukraine and Russia.

(24:20):
He's almost batting a thousand here, He's almost batting a thousand, Jeff,
But you know what, this is a backdoor in to
NATO two point zero. We can't be given lifetime security
passes like this. Will we defend it? Why should we
defend anybody? We should defend ourselves. And no one's who's
defending us. We've already been invaded. There's over six hundred

(24:44):
thousand Ukrainians living in this country now that just came
here during Biden's time. Jeff, you know what, I don't
want to get off subject here, but this bs of
bringing in these Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza.
They brought thirty eight hundred of them in and in
the last couple months nobody even knew about it. Who

(25:06):
in the State Department is doing this, That's what we
need to know.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
But Jeff, Jerry, I promise, I'll let you finish. I
won't cut you off. No again, I want to give again.
I have to give a hat tip to Laura Lumer again.
She's feast or famine. When she's on, she's on. When
she's off, she's off. But lately she's been on and
she's the one that helped break this story. Under Rubio
State Department.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
This is all under Rubio.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
I'm not saying he knew, but this is his people
underneath him through the back door. In secret, they have
been giving out visas and allowing these Palestinians from Gaza
by the thousands to come into the United States, and frankly,
many of them unvetted. So what are we going to

(25:53):
be importing hamas terrorists into the United States? Like I mean,
this is what I'm saying. I had so many freaking
problems here at home, and we're gonna go around playing
global cop and you know, and you mentioned Jerry. It
was brilliant the way you listed them all off. Trump
is practically batting a thousand and look. I love him

(26:15):
as peacemaker.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
I do.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
I think it's a great role for him and for
the United States. We should be the neutral arbiter, the
neutral mediator and bring peace to me. It's a beautiful thing. Okay, Look, yes,
you defend your country, but we also want to help
other countries around the world. But notice, we're not protecting
Cambodia's borders, or Thailand's borders, or India's borders, or Pakistan's borders,

(26:41):
or Serbia's borders, or Kusovo's borders. We're not protecting their
borders or the Congo or Rwanda. Only when it comes
to Ukraine. Only when it comes to Ukraine. We have
to defend their freaking borders. And so people have to
ask themselves why why why are we committed to protecting

(27:05):
their borders? And I think Comrade you hit right on it,
because it's a money laundering, corrupt operation that implicates I
don't know how many members of Congress, how many members
of our ruling class, both parties. It's deeply entrenched and

(27:25):
everything goes through Ukraine. Now, look, if the Europeans want
to support Ukraine, if they want to defend their borders,
that's their business. Honestly, that's up to them. But look,
we've given them hundreds of billions in financial military aid.

(27:47):
Without us, they'd be finished, Okay. Putin would be drinking
vodka from a vodka from Kiev. Seriously, he'd be overlooking
Ukraine from its capital. And you know, you know what, Dmitri,
it's true, Ukrainian vodka even better than Russian vodka.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Salo, you know, nozdrevye Okay, we drink.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
So we saved Ukraine's bacon multiple times, well, starting with
Trump when he gave them javelin missiles anti tank missiles,
while literally Obama was giving them blankets in his first term.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
But enough is enough?

Speaker 1 (28:27):
How much more can we continue to protect you? And
now you want it in perpetuity forever?

Speaker 3 (28:36):
It's not even there's not even like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
It's a five year period, a ten year period, hell
even a twenty year period. No forever, forever, ever, ever
and ever until there's no United States. Final word to U, Comrade.

Speaker 8 (28:50):
Jeff, the Ukraine is the most filthy place on the
face of the earth next to this country, the United
States of America, as far as being corrupt, five hundred
billion dollars, we've sunk down that rat hole. And you
know what, they want to keep giving them more and
more and more. But you know it's to cover up
for the biolabs, the human trafficking, the trafficking of children

(29:14):
and women. That's what this is all about. They got
to keep the gravy train rolling.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Jeff, Jerry, as always, thank you for that call. Comrade
six one seven two sex sex sixty eight sixty eight agree, disagree,
Maria and Ludlow.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Thanks for holding Maria and welcome.

Speaker 9 (29:37):
Good morning, Jeff.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Who are you?

Speaker 3 (29:38):
I'm good? How are you Maria?

Speaker 9 (29:41):
They're tired on my way home from everyday night. But
I just want to say, I smell a rat. I
smell a rat. My intuition is saying with the president,
like I tell my special needs little boy, you say
that's a no, thank you, Because for the past four years,

(30:04):
Americans have been dying, Americans have been under distressed, Our
waters have been open, and nobody on this earth lift
up the finger to help us out. Why must we
be the.

Speaker 10 (30:19):
Ones to go and be the savior for everybody out there,
but nobody will lift a.

Speaker 9 (30:26):
Finger to help us out. I smell a rat. I say,
walk away from it. I know, mister Trump, they're pulling
at your heart strength. He's a father, I am a mother.
That is sickening seeing all these young kids die. But
you know what, if he goes through with this, this
is a forever, permanent thing. What about American people? What

(30:48):
about American dad and mom's boys and girls, young ones
that goes in fight for this country. What about our
children's life? That doesn't matter.

Speaker 10 (30:59):
I smell around.

Speaker 9 (31:01):
He shouldn't do it.

Speaker 10 (31:03):
Ukrainians have had enough of our money, of our taxpayer money.
We have done more than enough. Why are they saying
no to the Italians being there to help. Why are
didn't saying no to other people to help? Why America?

Speaker 9 (31:19):
Because I'll tell you why. Corruption. It's like the last
caller said, they want to keep the money groups, funny
trained gravy going. And that is absolutely and no thank
you and nothing enough.

Speaker 10 (31:33):
We have done enough.

Speaker 9 (31:34):
I understand mister Trump wants to do people, but you
know what, why is Russia and Ukraine agreeing that?

Speaker 1 (31:42):
I'm ah Maria, you dropped on us for some reason
just on maybe you hit a dead zone, but you're
on a roll. No, look it's it's an excellent point.
It's a brilliant point. Now look this, you know, like, look,
just stand back. I want to ask all of you objective. Okay,
you're a country in Europe, and just to be accurate, geographically,

(32:07):
in eastern eastern eastern Europe. In other words, you're on
the like you're your border Russia. You're not in Central Europe.
You're not in Western Europe or southern Europe. You're on
the other side. You're basically you know, you're on the border,
your borderland. That's what Ukraine stands for. You're right on
the border with Russia. Now, you just fought a vicious

(32:27):
three and a half year war, okay, a vicious three
and a half year war. Hundreds of thousands of your
citizens are dead, Your cities are decimated and destroyed. Ten
million of your people are refugees living in another country.
You are financially ruined. You're lucky if you come back

(32:49):
in twenty five to thirty years. Great Britain will underwrite
your security. France will underwrite your security. The Germans primarily
through money, but they will underwrite you know, they'll send
you weapons, They'll give you money to buy weapons. The
Italians will underwrite your security. What's the problem. You mean

(33:16):
to tell me, seriously, just rationally, that if Russia attacks
you again or crosses your border or whatever, that you
combined with the full might of Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Poland,
Finland a cividan, you can't repel a Russian invasion. Like,

(33:43):
are you serious? Of course you can, you know you can.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Everybody knows.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Let's go, let's go right back to Maria. Everybody knows
you can. But I think Maria put her finger right
on it. There's not big money with the French and
the Brits and the Germans and the Italians.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
If you want the big money, the corruption, the bribery,
the aid, the money laundering, that's say that's again, that's
the American See, that's the Americans. That's where the big
money is. Okay, we've reconnected with Maria. Maria, you are

(34:29):
absolutely on a roll. I agree with you. If Ukrainians
the leadership were serious about ending this war, security guarantees
from all these big European powers would be more than enough.
So the question is why isn't it enough? And I
think you nailed it. Follow the money, please, Maria, pick

(34:51):
up where you left off.

Speaker 10 (34:54):
Oh thank you. I'm just so sick and tired of it.
First of all, Zelensky is not a what did them?
Hillary Clinton. He's an illegitimate president first of all, so
he shouldn't be saying none of this. I'm just hoping
and praying that we'll be all in. This is completely wrong.

(35:18):
He shouldn't be saying, yeah, we should go for this.
I don't know what his thought process is on this.
I hope to God and I pray. Mister President, you
your people are if you're listening to this, say no,
say no, because this is not what we want. We
do not want to be the fixer uppers for.

Speaker 9 (35:37):
Everybody in the world problems.

Speaker 10 (35:40):
We have our own problems. And again, no one has
had the cahonys to lift a finger and say, oh
my God, let me go and help America. Because under
Biden's administration, he's destroying. People are dying. All this corrupt
stuff is happening and nobody's lifting a finger. No, no,
enough is enough. I say no. I don't understand. All

(36:01):
of a sudden now Pudin and what's his faith. The
Lensky are like, okay with America being the one to
do why what because it's all about the money, all
about the money. And I say no, you know, as Americans,
we need our money. We need our money to feed
our families in order to survive in this country, to

(36:21):
be able to pick up from what we have been
through the past four years. I just can't think. And
I hope mister Trump, if you're listening to this, you
say no, you say no. You do not put American
lives at rich to fight for another country, for Russia,
for them, for a fight that we didn't do, for

(36:43):
a war that we are not part of. Do not
put yourself in that position to put yourself included in
this war. It is not our war to fight. They
are made day bed now they need to lie in it.
Let them fix it. I know you want to be
a peace dealer, God bless your heart for it, but no,
that's a no.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Thank you, Maria, thank you very much for that call.
Six one seven two, six, six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number, just very quickly, and then I want
to go to russ in Boston. Obviously, look This is
the other part that just I can't wrap my mind
around this. Think about let's say this deal is inked. Okay,

(37:23):
just let's just play it out. Trump meets with Zelenski
and the Europeans. Zelensky says, well, look, if you're willing
to give me a full security guarantee, that means, you know,
America will defend our borders. Okay, I'll give away all
the territory to putin and let's go and meet meet
him on Friday, and I sign, he signs, you sign,

(37:46):
and everybody walks away. Think about what that means going
into the future. Every time there is a cross border
incursion somewhere in eastern Ukraine with the names of villages
and towns nobody ever heard of. One shell is lobbed,

(38:08):
one bullet is fired, one soldier is killed.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
It leads the news.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
All we're going to be doing is Oh no, is
this enough to trigger this guarantee? Oh no, because now
the initiative lies with the Ukrainians. You see, now we're
beholden to them. They start a war with Russia, even
if it's a false flag or the Russians respond, and

(38:36):
now we can't pull back. We can't pull back. We
have lost our independence in terms of our freedom of
autonomy to decide whether we want to go to war
or not go to war, whether it's in our interest
to go to war or not.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
To go to our interest to.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Go to war. So our military nash, our our military independence,
our autonomy, our decision to choose, our to choose for ourselves.
Where when, if you know, to fight, that's taken away
from us. Our hands now are tied. We're in a

(39:18):
straight jacket.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Now.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
It's going to be great initially because the fighting will
end and the killing and it'll be off to TV screens.
But what happens in twelve months, eighteen months