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August 28, 2025 • 22 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're talking about how in their zeal to appear on

(00:03):
the side of law enforcement, after weeks of denying that
cities were crime infested, they made a huge tone. The
Democrats made a huge tone deaf error and called for
gun control. Oh and by the way, don't bother to
prey for the victims while the you know, while the

(00:24):
wounded were still being transported to the hospital. One collar
had an interesting suggestion earlier, and that was that churches
and schools be federal zones so that the death penalty
could apply no matter you know, what the death penalty
policy of the state was. And I found that to
be very interesting, and so did some of the textures.

(00:46):
So the one texture pointed out something that I thought
was pretty interesting. And seven seven fourth says, and the
text number is seven zero four to seven zero and
seven seven four says Sandy. Capital punishment is not going
to deter a person who is going to shoot themselves,
and that's exactly right, of course, if their endgame is
to die before they leave, No, they're not going to

(01:07):
care it's a capital punishment zone. But it might deter
those who think they could get away. Those who don't
intend dying in it. And President Trump wants to bring
capital punishment back to d C. And he wants other
states to think about it. Do you think that that's
a good idea? In recent months, the Justice Department has

(01:29):
said that there are at least three cases in DC's
federal court that they might seek the death penalty on.
One of those is the Elias Rodriguez. He's the guy
who's accused of shooting the two Israelian but embassy staff
members who are leaving the Jewish community event. And they're
also actively considering seeking the death penalty in DC District

(01:51):
Court for two Mexican nationals who were charged back in
two thousand and eight in a gang case and was
recently to the US, and for two young men who
were indicted for a twenty twenty three car jacking. That
these all resulted in death. But you may be asking yourself,
you know, well, it's working. They're doing the death penalty

(02:13):
and at federal cases, So why why change? Well a
couple of reasons. One is that what President Trump is
suggesting is having the district attorney for the or the
the the head district attorney, the one for the federal level.
Destinie Piro can do something no other acting attorney can do,

(02:36):
and that is she can charge both local and federal
crimes as federal and that would apply the death penalty,
and so he would like her to do. That was
what he was signaling. And here's the thing. The federal
death row is down to three people right now. And
the reason why is because President Joe Biden commuted sentences
of about three dozen federal inmates who had been sentenced

(02:58):
to death. So or he did, or the auto pen did.
I'm not sure who did, but somebody did in his administration.
So if you activate the death penalty, you know, and
get it moving again, then you're not going to have
another administration coming in and letting these people out, which
is what happened. And President Trump has vowed since the
first day of his administration to restore the use of

(03:20):
capital punishment in the US and so by directing the
Attorney General to pursue the death penalty for crimes whenever possible.
So he wants to make that a real issue in
DC and that would make the states think about it.
Capital punishment is still legal in about I think, what

(03:45):
is it, two dozen states thereabouts in the US, and
he would like it to be on the table whenever
anybody commits murder, and the federal government can call for
death sentences over more than murder. They can do it
over several crimes, including espionage, murder by drive by shooting,

(04:06):
which means you know, it can be an accidental death
in that respect, genocide when you have when the offender
is a US national, and first degree murder. Those are
basically where a capital punishment comes in. And on his
first day in office, President Trump signed an executive order
that urged the US Attorney General to pursue the death

(04:27):
penalty for cases involving murder of a law enforcement officer
as well or a capital crime committed by an illegal
alien president in the country. So he added those. But
here's the thing about federal cases. If a federal case
seeking the death penalty needs to be approved by the
Attorney General, that's according to the DOJ. And then the

(04:51):
DJ reviews the case based on a particular group of
people in the capital case section, and then they make
a recommendation to the age whether to go ahead and
seek the death penalty. And then there you also have
say the case goes and it is a capital case,
the jury still makes the final decision at a sentencing hearing.

(05:11):
So you know, there's a lot of backstops. It's not
just hey, we're going to go for the death penalty, period,
that's not what happens. But President Trump is trying to
put the idea of the death penalty on the front
burner so that states think about it. And with these backstops,
doesn't that make it more palatable for people? So do
you agree that the death penalty should be brought back

(05:32):
to DC? Is this something that would be a good idea,
especially if you think about other states maybe reconsidering it.
Look at California, the Manson family, they were originally given
the death penalty, but California revoked the death penalty and
many years ago, and so therefore members of the Manson

(05:53):
family kept coming up for parole. And my response every
single time was their gift is that they're alive. They
should be dead because they were convicted and a jury
gave them the death penalty for what they did. So
to me, you know, there's no such thing as life
with that parole because these people keep coming up. The
Menandez brothers just last week had parole denied. You know

(06:15):
who brutally murdered their parents, and so I mean they
should they should have give it gotten the death penalty.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
So the death.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Penalty is something that needs to be discussed. And I
think that's what President Trump was doing when he mentioned
it earlier this week and making it a focus in
DC because he can do it in DC, is he
can't do it in the other places. Other states have
to deal with it. It's a state it's a state right.
They have to consider it unless it's a federal crime.

(06:43):
So I think that that one of that that's one
of the things that pushed the Democrats over the edge,
the idea that President Trump was bringing the death penalty
back for discussion and made them panic a little bit
in Minneapolis yesterday. But I was, okay, okay, I say,
let's talk about the death penalty. Then President Trump wants
capital punishment in the capital. Was that a bridge too

(07:07):
far for the Democrats? And does that explain them basically
making fools of themselves yesterday by saying, don't pray for
us and we need gun control and do you agree
that maybe President Trump's pro crime or pro crime fighting,

(07:28):
I should say, I'm sorry, is what is causing them
to behave irrationally and what do you think about bringing
the death penalty back to DC? Is this a good idea?
Do you like it? He wants to be on the
table to discuss for it for different states because the
death penalty is a state issue for local laws. Do
you agree, should we be discussing it and should the

(07:48):
death penalty come back to the capital? Janice in Melrose,
Welcome to WRKO. How are you Janis?

Speaker 3 (07:56):
I heard a very interesting interview over the weekend by
the crime specialist John Lott, and he talked a lot
about mass shootings, which was interesting timing. He said that
first of all, they plan these for a long time.
He was asked why do they want to take other

(08:17):
people with them if they're suicidal? And he said, first
of all that either most or all of these shooters
are depressed. They feel like losers. They and he has
studied all these cases and read their manifestos. They write
about how they're socially isolated. Girls won't go out with them,
they don't have relationships, and they want to die. And

(08:39):
they study all the other mass shootings and they think
that what they want is notoriety, and they get that
by the more people they can kill, and he said
in Sandy Hook he planned this for two years and
he wanted to kill more people than that shooter in Norway,

(09:00):
I think, which was the highest death cost.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
The one on the eye that the summer camp islands. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
That, But the reason that they seek out gun free
zones is because they don't want to be stopped before
they can kill the most amount of people they can kill,
and so the death penalty in this case, I.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Don't think I wouldn't have stopped him.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
No, no, But he said most of them are depressed
and this is their goal. He thought that the best
way to I don't know if to tear it, but
to help was to have concealed carry adults in the school.
And he said that if there's one armed guard, then
they'll just wait till he leaves the area or goes
to another building, and if they do come into the school,

(09:42):
that he's the first person they're going to try to
take out. He just thought that consaled carry would be
the best thing.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
But I tend to agree too, which is why actually,
which is my argument. Earlier when we had the older
collar saying that the church should be a gun free zone,
it was a gun free zone and that was part
of the problem for exactly the reason you just said.
And but I think if you don't know if they
were concealed carry, then you think twice, you know, you
think twice about using a gun, you think twice about

(10:11):
what you're doing. Maybe there's another way for you to
get your point across. I don't know. I mean that
these are sick minds to begin with that are thinking
about this. But I think that's a really interesting fact. Janis,
who is this again? Who was talking?

Speaker 3 (10:28):
The crime expert, but he's studied this a lot. But
your former, the former educator you hit on. I think
he was talking about a different situation. Was the fight
between two students. I don't think they were.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
No, he was talking yeah, But his point in bringing
that up was to say he'd had personal experience in
dealing with guns. He wasn't saying that that that would
have helped that situation. No, he is a very brave
man who was brilliant at bringing that bringing that situation
to a close. I don't think he was saying that
schools should be a gun free zone for that reason.

(11:04):
It's I mean, kids aren't supposed to bring guns anyway.
Whether you make it a gun free zone or not.
Nobody's none of the kids are supposed to be packing.
So I don't think he meant that as a deterrent
for that situation either. I think he was trying to
think about what would help people in a mass shooter situation.
But I think that the guy you're listening to, and

(11:25):
the point I was trying to make with him before,
is if they don't know, if people have, you know,
guns or concealed carry, then they they might be less
apt to attack. Do you remember there was a shooting
in a church in Texas and it was brought to
a pretty quick end because there were people who had
conceal Carrey had guns in the church. It was Texas

(11:46):
and fired back and ended the gunfight before too many
people were hurt. And I think that's the point that
the expert was trying to make, is that if you
don't know, you're not going to pick that church because
you don't know. And in Texas, I think you know,
it's you never know. But in Minneapolis, we're a big

(12:06):
sign that says gun free zone on the front of
the church. He knew he was safe, you know. I
think that's what happened Janie, But what did you think
of the response of the mayor when he says, don't
pray for us?

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Well, this is just my opinion, but I think there
are a lot of cultural Marxists and anti religion. Is
you know, they want the stake to be your god.
And I think, say, that's why they're anti religion. But
that's just the way I see it.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
But yeah, no, I completely agree with you. That's the
point I was trying to make earlier, and you put
it very well. I think that's exactly what was revealed
to us yesterday by Mayor Jacob Fry. Thank you for
the call, Janis. I appreciate it very much. Let's go
to Chris in Tewksbury. Chris, welcome to w RKO. How
are you.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
I'm not doing that.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
Bad, ma'am. I was wondering we shouldn't.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
I'm sorry, we should bring back to old sparky.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Okay, So not only do you want the death penalty,
you want the electric chair?

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Uh huh. So you're a big yes when Donald Trump
says let's bring it back to d C Oh. Yes, yeah,
you know. We it's the same rules here. By the way,
in Massachusetts, you can have the death penalty here if
it's a federal case. Hence Jokar zarnaeev that a Marathon
bomber is on death row even though he was tried

(13:30):
and convicted here in Massachusetts for a crime that happened
here in Massachusetts. But it's a federal crime, so the
death penalty applies. Otherwise, you know, or a local crime
under Massachusetts state law, he would not be so Okay, Well,
thank you for the call, Chris. I appreciate it very much.
Let's talk to Ken in Rhode Island. Ken, welcome to WRKO.

(13:51):
How are you today?

Speaker 2 (13:53):
I'm trying as about yourself.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Well, I am fine too. What did you think of
President Trump wanting to bring back capital punishment to DC
one and two? Do you think that's what put the
Democrats over the edge so they made these huge mistakes yesterday.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
I kind of agree with President Trump on this. You know,
the death penalty is a great deterrent if you're gonna
go out there and you're gonna, you know, kill a
seventeen year old or god forbid, you know some of
the older citizens out there. Yeah, you know, you deserve to,

(14:32):
you know, sit there and you get two hundred volts
sapping through your body. But I think the one other
thing that people are missing here, and I told your
call screener, this is the fact that people have been
voting Democrat for god knows how long.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
This goes back to.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Their parents, their grandparents, and maybe even their great grandparents.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
For all I know.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
But you know, in Rhode Island and especially in Massachusetts,
it's like there are no there are very few Republicans
in office. So yeah, now we've got people who will
not fight against crime instead of having law on order

(15:22):
Republicans up there.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Well, I think I think you're right. I mean, I
think that voting Democrat for a very long time has
been a habit for many people. But I think that
is changing. And I point to myself as an example.
I came from a family that were a long line
of Democrats, but my family's Democrat party is not this
Democrat party. It's completely different. And about you know, fifteen

(15:49):
years ago or so, I looked at this and went,
I am not a Democrat, and I became unenrolled. And
that is, in fact, the biggest growing section of politics,
basically in Massachusetts and I think in the country are
the independents, which we call unenrolled here in Massachusetts. So
I think there is hope that that habit is being

(16:13):
broken as people actually see what is happening around them
and seeing the failure of the Body administration in particular,
and the successes of the Trump administration have made a
lot of people think about things that they took for granted,
and positions they took for granted, and party affiliation which

(16:33):
they took for granted, which I don't think many people
are doing anymore. Our text number is seven zero four
to seven zero. On the text line six one seven
says Sandy and Mass. A guy named Gary Sampson was
scheduled for execution for killing Jonathan Rizzo and two others
on an interstate crime spree between mass and New Hampshire.
He answered federal murder charges. He died in jail. When

(16:55):
Joe Biden was president. We never really heard if he
was executed or died naturally. He even had a second
death penalty jury affirm his execution. You know, that's this
is the kind of thing that President Trump, I think,
is trying to trying to make sure it stops happening.
And there was another case, I don't remember what state
it was, it was just last week I read about it.

(17:17):
A man was at the killer of his wife was
at his execution. It had taken over thirty years to
get there, from the time she was gruesomely murdered and
assaulted to the time of the execution. And I think
that's what These are the reasons why President Trump has
wants to increase the conversation on the death penalty. And

(17:37):
he's done so by suggesting that capital punishment come back
to doc Do you agree? Should it? And the other
side of that is was him mentioning that him bringing
that up was that the last draw for the Democrats
who jumped off a cliff yesterday in their haste to
prove that they were for law and order after being

(18:00):
against it for weeks. And so instead of you know,
being supportive of the crime and crime policies of President Trump,
they decided to start politicking for gun control on the
actual scene of a mass shooting while the crime tape
was still up and just for good measures that by

(18:20):
the way, don't pray for the victim, got to do
gun control. I mean that this raises trump dysphoria to
a whole new level. Do you support Dave and Vermont.
Do you support capital punishment? And am I right? In
reading the Democrat's response to that, I.

Speaker 5 (18:39):
Do support it? A question I've noticed a lot of
times it seemed like some of these people that transition
in the sex when you get on the hormone therapies,
they seem to get very angry, and they seem to
be very ang just people. Are these hormonal drugs a

(19:03):
controlled substance?

Speaker 1 (19:04):
I don't know the answer to that, but I can
tell you as a woman, hormones can affect a lot
of things in your life. And you know, if you
are born a woman, you learn to deal with it
as you grow up because you adjust to it. I
would think that if you weren't born a woman and
start taking female hormones, that there has to be some
adverse effects. But I'm not a doctor and I don't

(19:28):
know for sure. I would have to ask a medical
doctor to weigh in on that and ask that, and
I don't know if there are a controlled substance.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
The reason I asked is when you fill out a
form to purchase a firearm, you have to have a
federal check, and a federal check the question one of
the questions you get on that form is do you
use narcotics for controlled substances? And basically, if you are
using a controlled substance that is sort of a psychotic

(19:57):
type or anything like that, you can't get a permit.
You cannot purchase a firearm if these were classified as
a controlled substance that was mind altering, which you know,
their minds altered already because if they're going to transition
to another set and mutilate their body, they're not thinking
quite right. If that was the case, that we could

(20:20):
probably keep firearms out of the hands of a lot
of these people that seem to be going nuts lately.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Well, I think you could keep firearms out of their
hands if they're legitimately getting firearms, But if they're buying
them through illegitimate means, if on the black market or
not going through the proper channels, then that's not going
to make a difference. So I think what you're saying
makes a difference for a law abidings free shooters who

(20:47):
get their guns through, you know, through legal means, But
it doesn't help us if people who are going to
buy guns on a black market aren't going to pay
attention to you know, don't really care what the federal
laws are. But I get your point, and maybe it
would in fact cut down on transactions and people would
have a more difficult time finding guns on the black market.

(21:10):
So point well taken, Dave, thank you very much. Let's
talk to Rob in Seabrook. Rob, Welcome to w RKO.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
How are you, Jamie? Thanks for taking my call. Bye.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
Support capital punishment and I'll take it a step farther
because if you deterrent and it works the good all
firing squad, that will make people think twice, no question
about it in my mind.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
And you and you and concealed Carrie. I believe New
Hampshire I has that and is one of the safest
states in the nation. And uh I support the show.
I support you. I like your call in when you
when you step in for jeff Thanks that said, May
Maga lived strong and forever. Rubio Vance twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Okay, well Rob, you you got I think you got
everything out there that you needed to in very short order.
I thank you on behalf of Jeffrey, and I thank
you for myself
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