Was a Split Between Trump and Elon Inevitable?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:27):
Do you think they're gonna patch things up? Bury the hatchet? And?
I don't know. I don't say be friends again, but
at least you know publicly stop feuding. Will Trump and
Elon make up? A? Yes?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
B no?

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(01:12):
and as in national Er. Betty in quinsy. Thanks for
holding Betty, and welcome Jeff.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
How's it going good?

Speaker 1 (01:22):
How are you? Betty?

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Good good? I think this is all about nothing. I
think that they're going to make up. For sure, these two,
they're better together than a part. I think everybody needs
to calm down, will have a common sense, cookie break
and I'm with Ellie. I think his feelings were just hurt.
I think Elon's feelings were hurt. He didn't know how

(01:44):
to handle it. And I'm not sure with Asberg is
how that goes, but I believe that to be true.
I think this is the best romance in history, Jeff,
I mean political history. I mean, it was so electrifying.
I don't want to throw that away. I mean, he
was a huge health Elon with Trump, you know, and
I think Trump has grown so much. I think he's

(02:06):
gonna handle this with grace, and I think he knows,
he realizes how important it is to have somebody like Elon,
you know, in the mix and in the family, so
to speak. I mean, he really I was at the
convention and I was at the Butler the Pennsylvania for
the second rally when I ever saw Elon jump up

(02:26):
on the stage and Trump saying, well, look at him.
He's so excited. He's like doing jumping jacks and you know,
and then he's like looking at him, he says, look
at him. I think he works out. I mean, it
was just so awesome to see the way he embraced Elon.
We've never seen somebody like reach over the Aisle and
then you know RFK. I mean I think they're going

(02:47):
to I think they're going to be two of the best,
two of the greatest to go down in history. They
need to patch this up, put themselves in for the country.
I mean, this will be such a valuable lesson Jeff
for the country. You know what we agree to disagree,
they know they agree on like eighty percent or whatever.
I think this was just feelings hurt. I think he

(03:08):
needs to have the keys. I think he needs to
be in a little time out. Maybe, But I think
this can all be solved over a little cookie break.
What do you think.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Oh, I hope so. Maybe, I really really really hope so.
But I agree with you, they do need each other.
I think this alliance was tremendous. Look again, I don't
want to repeat myself, but there's no question Elon played
a very key role in Trump's reelection. Look that's you know,
you have to give the man his due, hundreds of

(03:39):
millions of dollars. What he did with X restoring it,
I can tell you as restoring it as a free
speech platform, I was able to say things against Kamala,
against Biden, against the Democrats in favor of Trump that
I had been canceled or censored under the previous own

(04:00):
ownership of X. So there's no question. And look, Elon
worked his tail off in Pennsylvania and Michigan and Wisconsin,
and then of course with Doge and everything he did there,
So there's no question about it. Elon musk, you know,
and even Trump said, I goes, I don't know if
anybody worked harder than Elon outside of myself. Obviously, he goes,

(04:22):
I mean, the guy broke his back. And look, remember
Elon was and in some ways is still a Democrat.
I mean, I know he's broken from the Democratic Party,
but philosophically, ideologically, it's much more of a Democrat than
he is a conservative. He's more of a libertarian style Democrat.

(04:43):
But he's still in some ways a Democrat. And he
took a lot of heat. He's hated by the left.
They reviled this man. And look look at look what
they did to his company. Look what they're doing to Tesla's.
The Tesla Dealerships has twenty security guards around the clock.
He's getting death threats NonStop. So I'm not going to

(05:06):
deny everything that Elon did, but I think fundamentally, Betty,
these simmering tensions, it was almost inevitable that it was
going to boil over, because I think it's not just
that it's two alpha males. Trump fundamentally is a nationalist populist.
Elon even when he was a Democrat, he was a populist.

(05:30):
Now as a Republican, he's a populist. Elon is more
of a democrat and much more of a libertarian. So like,
for example, Elon hates the tariffs completely. He's against the
tariffs completely. So what I'm saying is you can see
on many issues they just don't agree. Now, they agreed

(05:52):
that Biden was horrible, they agreed that Kamala is horrible.
They agreed that that Democrats are now horrible and posed
an existential threat to the country. But what they want
to do with power it They disagree not on everything, obviously,
but on some very important issues. So in a way,

(06:13):
this kind of, you know, this division or this split
between the two of them, it was almost inevitable. What
breaks my heart is that it's become so public and
so ugly and so unnecessarily nasty. Six one seven two
six six sixty eight, sixty eight is the number. Okay,

(06:35):
let me ask you, do you think it's still possible
for Donald Trump, President Trump, and Elon Musk to eventually,
you know, to patch things up, to make up, or
do you think now it's it's beyond any of it's
the breach is so big and so wide and things
were said that literally can't be unsaid. Is it now

(06:59):
just two talks of a relationship? And ultimately, who do
you blame for this feud? Trump or Elon? Six one
seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight lines are loaded.
Bill in Holbrook, Thanks for holding Bill, and welcome.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
Good morning, Jeff. Just a thought outside the box. You
had mentioned before that Donald Trump plays three dimensional chess.
What if this is just another move? What if this
is possibly a plan devised by Trump and Musk to
get to get must back into the good graces of
the Democrats.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Well, I mean, I've heard that theory. A lot of
people are saying it's four D chess, five D chess,
you know, ninety chess. Uh Here, I mean, I'm just
giving my honest opinion. Here's the problem. I've spoken to
people very close to Trump. Trump is livid if this
is a conspiracy, He's not in on it. Trump. According

(08:01):
to what I heard, Trump is saying that the breach
is quote unquote irreparable. Now there may be a makeup
phone call, but that's just going to be superficial. In
other words, think about a very nasty family fight and
you say, well, show up for the wedding, you know,
like just shake hands and you know that's it. That

(08:22):
just you know, for the public. But basically it's gone.
The relationship is over. Now. Elon I think is now
wanting to put more of an olive branch because he's
the one that I think crossed the line. But I
can just tell you this, Trump's people hate Elon. They
feel betrayed. Trump feels betrayed. He says that the breach

(08:47):
is irreparable. We'll see and ultimately, I know many people
are saying, well, this is a way to bring Democrats
back to buy Tesla's. They're not going to buy Tesla's.
They still hate the man. I mean, today he's the
flavor of the month because they're using him to go
after Trump and they love the fact that the alliance
has now been shattered. But they will never ever forgive

(09:11):
Elon Musk for getting Donald Trump elected. They'll never forgive
him for that. So they're not going to buy his
Tesla's and he's lost so much money already. I don't
know if you've seen the Tesla's share now is what
is it? Down fourteen percent? When Trump came out with
his post social media post saying, yeah, I think we're

(09:34):
gonna get rid of these contracts and subsidies to Tesla.
You know, Elon wants us to save money. We'll save money.
So Elon's companies now are in big trouble. He's gonna
lose hundreds of billions of dollars. So that's why I
think he's the one that you know, said yeah, maybe
I should make peace, because I think he woke up

(09:56):
this morning and realized much of what I've worked for
going up in smoke. And I gotta say one lesson
one other thing. I don't want to harp on this,
but when you accuse someone of being a pedophile, I
don't know how you can walk that back. Now. I
know some are saying, well, now the libs are demanding

(10:19):
the release of the Epstein files. We're not gonna see
the Epstein files. I'm convinced of it now. We're never
gonna see the Epstein files, and so with the media
and the Democrats, he's given them a huge weapon against
Trump for the rest of Trump's presidency. They're gonna say

(10:39):
Trump was accused of being in the Epstein files. Why well,
Elon said it. He had no closer ally than Elon,
So I think he's done. Honestly, I think Elon has
done tremendous damage to Trump. I think he's done tremendous
damage to his public authority and image. I think he's

(11:01):
done tremendous damage to MAGA and he owes the President
and frankly the country in apology. That's just my honest opinion. Bill.
Final word to you.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
Well, Jeff, I hope that they do that. They do
kiss and makeup, of course in a non sexual way,
because the two of these men together are a powerhouse
that no one can stop.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
And that's why the big winners. You're right, You're completely right.
That's why I'm telling you the big winners are the Dems,
the media, and the never Trumpers. They have wanted this
from day one. They love this. They're in political heaven
right now. And to me, to see our enemy celebrating

(11:46):
like this, that's why I notice was a big mistake.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
This.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
They've got to patch things up because together, you're right,
they're unstoppable. Literally, they're unstoppable. Bill, Thank you very much
for that call six to one. Again. You may disagree
with me, I'm just giving you my honest opinion. Six
one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Tom
in Westford, Thanks for holding Tom and welcome well.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
Thank you a great show as usual.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Thank you, Tom.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
I wonder if he had a breakdown. Maybe did he
when Trump canceled the contracts? Is that when he came
out really bad saying bad things about Trump? And I
hope Trump takes the high road. He shouldn't. He shouldn't
do what the Democrats want. Keep saying good things about
Musk and don't say bad things because he feeds the

(12:38):
Democrats what they want. If he just stays nice and
stays high road, even though it's tough, I think it's better,
you know, but it's just awful because they got to
get that bill passed. That bill. If it doesn't make it,
like you said, it's going to ruin his whole presidency.
They got to focus on that bill. Boy.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Oh Tom, I'm with you all the way. And Tom
just to add to what you're saying. And this is
why I mentioned this. You know, Musk for most of
his life has been a Democrat. It's fine. Look, Reagan
was a Democrat. Trump was a Democrat. The only reason
why I'm mentioning this when you see him go personal.

(13:19):
And it began when right when Trump said, Elon I
believe is suffering from Trump to arrangement syndrome. And I
played the cut. You know, some people come here and
it's the glamour and they're the center of the action,
and there's so much attention, and you wield so much power,
and then suddenly you leave and it's all gone. And
he said some people embrace it, and others get very hostile.

(13:42):
They just they can't deal with it and they lash
out at me. He goes, and it's like Trump arrangement syndrome.
He goes. I think maybe that's what Elon has. The
moment Trump said that Elon went ballistic, I mean, he went,
he went nuts. There's another way to say it. He
just it just got worse than I mean, it was
like tweet after tweet after everyone got worse than the other.

(14:03):
Impeach him, new political party, We got a break with
Trump completely, you know, and then finally the guys on
the Epstein list, and that's why they don't want to
release it. So he went nuclear. It was so personal,
so vindictive, so vicious.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Tom.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Honestly, it's like the old Democrat in him came back.
He argued for that though series of tweets, the most damaging,
the most personally inflammatory. It's like you saw they argued
the way the Democrats do personal no evidence, slander, defamation,

(14:48):
and it's almost like like an ugly side to Elon
that we hadn't seen before now really bubbled up to
the surface. And it's like, boy, he's sounding at least
now with these attacks, he's sounding like a Democrat now.
The cuts he's not the pork, he's not so on

(15:10):
the substance he's not. I'm just saying when things got
personal between him and Trump, he sounded like Nancy Pelosi
or Chuck Schumer or Hillary Clinton or Obama or or
Bill and Sudbury like that. I mean, they're just they're
they're vicious, and that's why I got angry. I mean,

(15:31):
I legit got angry yesterday and I said, where's your evidence?
No no, no, no, no no you're saying, this guy's a pedophile.
Where's your blanking evidence? You don't defame somebody like that.
And plus you honestly think that if he was in
the Epstein files, that with the deep state gunning for him,

(15:53):
the Democrats gunning for him, they wouldn't have released this
over a decade ago. Of course they would have released it.
Eric on Messenger just very quick because I want to
I want to take as many calls as possible. But
Eric on Messenger, I thought made a really good point.
He said, you know, a I think, you know, Jeff,

(16:13):
maybe Trump should sue, you know, for slander, for you know,
for for defamation. But the bigger point is he goes,
you know, Trump should come out and say, so, what
evidence do you have that I'm in the Epstein files?
Have you seen the Epstein files? And just like point blank,
like I want to know, have you seen him? Because

(16:35):
I want to see him. The whole country wants to
see him. Now. I think that's a brilliant rebuttal, I
think Eric is dead on. If Elon is now going
to say he's in the Epstein files, then I think
that the logical follow up is, well, okay, have you
seen him, and if you've seen him, tell us who's

(16:57):
on the client list. You're saying it's Trump with no evidence? Fine,
who else? Give us the names? We all want to
know the names. Give us all the names. Have you
seen the list? And it's going to be game, set
and match. Thelon's going to have to completely back down
because he didn't see the file. I guarantee it. He

(17:20):
doesn't know who's in. Then he has suspicions, he's heard rumors.
And there's some people were pretty much, you know, ninety
nine point percent sure you know Ala Bill Clinton or
Ali Bill Gates because they've been seen coming and going
back and forth to Epstein Island. So yeah, there's some
people we know, are you know, barring a miracle, they're

(17:44):
on the list. But so many other names. So have
you seen it and who's on the list? Come on,
don't hold back unless you made it up, unless you
were just really mad and really angry and you were
really say I want to read like a family fight.

(18:05):
Now I'm gonna really hurt them now, just super quick.
We were warned when we adopted you know, both Ashton
and Neva, that the adoption agency, you know, you go
through some courses, and and they said, look, this happens
to every parent who's adopted children don't take it personally.

(18:25):
When they become teenagers and they start to rebel and
they're not mature, but they want to get you know,
they're angry and they want to lash out. They always
try to go for the line that is the most painful.
That's what teenagers do. They always do this. Usually it's
I don't love you, or I hate you, or you're
a horrible mom, you know whatever, you're a horrible dad,

(18:47):
you know, and you're like, You're like, how could you
say that? They go. With adopted children, they go, don't
take it personally. They all say in their teenage rebellion face,
all of them, you're not my real father, you're not
my real mother. In other words, they're gonna say the

(19:08):
one thing that they know will hurt you the most,
either just to lash out, to get attention. Whatever. They go,
but they don't mean it. They go, please remember that
they don't mean it. Now. I've already got my response ready.
I've had it ready for years. Grace thinks I'm nuts.

(19:31):
I've been telling her. I can't wait for them to
use that line. Oh really, I'm not your father, really,
so when I did this for you and this for you,
and this for you and this for you, so she says,
I'm nuts. He goes, Jeff is so funny. I'm like, no, no,
I can't wait. I'm just like rubbing my hands together.
When are they gonna play the I'm not your real

(19:53):
father card. I'm waiting. I'm waiting. But my point being,
I'm I'm just surmising now. But if Elon wanted to
hurt Trump like a child, almost like a teenager, right
lashing out against his father, that's the way to do it.
That's that's the way. That's the you're not my real father,

(20:16):
you know. As for an adopted child, you're on the
Epstein list, You're on the app and that's why they're
not releasing it. In other words, you're just as bad
as all your other enemies. And that's why if Trump
calls him out on it, I think Elon's gonna have

(20:38):
to admit he made it up. He lied, he made
it up. Now I could be wrong. I'm just giving
you my opinion. Six one seven two Sex six sixty
eight sixty eight. Barbara in Abington, Thanks for holding Barbara
and welcome.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Good. Yes, I'm just calling you because I think that
Elon really resented being put to pasture so to speak.
I mean, this man has all the money in the world.
He doesn't have to oversee his companies. He's got people
doing that. So I think he was a little solid

(21:19):
graat at the fact that Trump was letting him go.
And then they started to have this little feud between them,
like two kids. And then of course he wants to
prove a point. I got you voted in. I'm the
one that made you. So he's drawing that line it's me.

(21:39):
It's either him or it's me, so that people, if
they take his side, he can say, see, I told
you it was me that got him voted in, like
he's going to win something. I don't know, what do
you think?

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Well, I think there's a lot to what you're saying.
I really do, Barbara. The other thing, this is the
part that I find disturbing. Okay, it's the again, I
don't want to go on about it, but the accusations
of pedophilia and being on Epstein Island. But the other
thing is this sense, I don't know, this arrogance, this hubris,

(22:14):
this need for power, not just that he got Trump elected,
but where he says Republicans have to decide it's either
me or Trump. I mean, I can read you the tweet,
I can read you the whole social media post. And
he says, you know, basically saying, it's either me or him,

(22:37):
now pick a side. And in other words, this party
is not big enough for the two of us. So
either you're with Trump or you're with me. And again
he's like saying, and I know he's the president now,
but he'll be gone in three years. Me as he says,
I'll be around for over forty years. In other words,

(22:59):
wink wink. If you're you better join me. If you
know what's your in the long term self interest, you
better join me. Now I'm looking at this and I'm like.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
There's I mean, there's a megalomania now component to this
that I find really disturbing. Number One, nobody voted for you.
I'm just stating the obvious. Number two. Why isn't the
party big enough for both of you? Why why are
you forcing people into one camp or another camp? Because

(23:34):
by doing that, you're dividing the movement and you're dividing
the party. That's not helping us, that's actually destroying us.
And that, to me shows that he's got a lust
for power. He's got an ego that I think is
way almost like a god complex. And then you add

(23:57):
that to the Hey I made you, I mean, that's
basically what he's saying. I got you elected. I mean
he openly said it. I got you. Without me, you
would not be president of the United States. Without me,
you wouldn't even have Republican control of the House and
Republican control of Congress. In other words, you owe me. Hey,
I made you, buddy, I made you. So It's almost

(24:21):
like if I say it's not a good bill, then
when I say jump, you better say how high I
run this party, I run this administration, not you. Why
Because I got you in power. So and then so
is what he's basically saying. Just to finish everything, Barbara,
He's basically saying, I made you, and I can break you.

(24:45):
In other words, like an oligarch, like in Eastern Europe.
That's how they are. I'm telling you, I.

Speaker 6 (24:49):
Know, Hey, no, no, hey, vola Demir. I mean, that's
how they talked to Zelenski. Hey, don't forget to put
you in power. Hey, I made you and I can
break you. In other words, buddy, you better toe the line.
Well you don't want to toe the line, Okay, Well
it's either him or me. Pick And essentially Elon is saying,

(25:13):
who's the richest man in the world. Me, who's the
guy that can run any primary campaign and destroy people?

Speaker 5 (25:21):
Me?

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Who's going to be around for decades? This guy's pushing eighty. Hey,
who's the future of this party?

Speaker 4 (25:29):
Me?

Speaker 1 (25:32):
So you better kiss my ring. That's the part that's
the ugly side of Elon that I think has come
out over the last twenty four hours. I don't like it.
I really don't like it. Final word to you, Barbara.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
You're exactly right, Jeff. I mean, I think he wants
to prove a point. He wants to say, see, I
told you it was me. Come on, this guy doesn't
need any more money as the need to overlook his companies.
He's got people doing all of this. It was what
he had while he was in the White House. And

(26:08):
now he's not in the White House, and there's a
retelliatory type of job that he's poking at Trump, saying
all of these negative things and then on top of it,
he wants to prove it I'm the one that got
you in there. It's either me or him. He's going
to be gone in three and a half years, but
I'm going to be here for forty years, indicating that

(26:30):
he'll be the one that will get other people voted
into office, and so forth and so on. I just
think he's having a little tempetan Trump, and he has
a bit of fellow grapes, and I think that Trump
shouldn't even address it. I think if he addresses it,
it just keeps ongoing. If he ignores it, it goes away.

(26:52):
And that would probably bug Elon even more that he
can't get under Trump's skin.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Oh, really good point, Oh, Barbara, really good call. You
know what, I agree with you. If he ignores him,
think about it. If you're dealing with a teenager who's
you know, lashing out in a temper tantrum, what's the
one thing the teenager doesn't want you to do? Just say, okay,
vote it. What do you mean you're not mad? No? Well,

(27:21):
hold on, what I didn't get into your skid? No,
hold on, you're not you're not reacting to me. I
didn't know I think about it then that that that
really drives them nuts. Barbara outstanding call, thank you very much.
Six one seven two six six, sixty eight, sixty eight.
But she's right. Essentially, what Elon was telling Trump is he,

(27:42):
it's and the Republican Party. It's either him or me.
It's either him or me. Take your pick. And again
I'm like, buddy, you cross the line, You cross the line. Look,
I'll tell you what Grace said again last night we
were talking about it, and I'll leave out some the
F bombs because she was very mad at Elon as well,
But basically, who the f does he think he is? Like,

(28:08):
of course he played a big role, he played an
important role, no, no question. And you know he's a
great American entrepreneur and an inventor. But whoa you want
to talk about? You know, your pride, pride? You know
they say pride cometh before the fall. You want to
talk about a big swollen head. You want to talk

(28:30):
about arrogance? And I guess when you have that much
money and you're the wealthiest man in the world and
you can spend almost unlimited and you have had victory
after victory, primarying this person, primarying that person. Maybe after
a while you do think you can make or break anybody,
including the president, But to say it publicly, that's another thing.

(28:55):
Like even if you wield that kind of tremendous power,
to be so open and brazen about it. Honestly, again,
I could be wrong. I think the guy's on drugs
or or let me just quickly say this. Don't take
my word for it. Look at Elon over the last

(29:17):
three to four months, six months, Look at the pressure
of the campaign to get Trump elected. What's done to
is what's happened to his business is the tremendous blowback,
the terrorism against him, against Tesla's, against Tesla dealerships. He's
also got multiple very young children's. Trust me, I've had

(29:40):
children who are that young. It's not an easy time.
You don't sleep much, your wife doesn't sleep much. So
you combine his young family with all of the business pressures,
with the political pressure, with all of the work of Doge,
with the relentless tax against him. He's age. I mean

(30:02):
he literally looks ten years older, like within six months.
Just look at Elon June of last year. Just go
Elon Musk. Don't take my word for it. Google pictures
or photos Elon June twenty twenty four. And then the

(30:22):
latest picture of Elon. Now you're gonna say, wow, Wow,
he's ten years older. So you can see that the
strain has clearly gotten to this guy. There's no question.
And again the reports of the ketamine abuse. So I

(30:43):
don't know if it's the strain. I don't know if
it's the pressure, the cumulative lack of sleep, they slight
mental breakdown, the asbergers, or the fact that the guy's
abusing ketamine. But I'm looking at this, I'm like this, dude,
even if you believe Eve what you're saying, you don't
put it out on X like hell. Even look, I'm

(31:06):
telling you, even these Eastern European oligarchs, yes, they tell
you in private I made you, I can't break you,
but they don't brag about it in public. Six one
seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Skippy in
South Boston, Thanks for holding Skippy and.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
Welcome Hello Jeff.

Speaker 7 (31:31):
Remember several months ago when I must start and ingratiating
himself with Trump, Steve van and wannabe says, watch out,
said Donald Musk is a snake. He's gonna bite you,
and Banner was stifled. He didn't have nothing sense. I
think it's coming through. This guy is a snake's guys, snake.

(31:53):
He's like one of those cucko birds. You know what
they do the mother then it slides into the nest
that's pushing the other birds out. I think he was
trying to get in between Vance and Rubio. He wanted
to be close to the president, and he produced. He's
literally he liked the devil. The devil is brilliant, but
he's also devious. He came up, came through with that

(32:13):
door stuff. But I think he wanted more. He wanted
to be like co president and he was gonna and
I think Trump felt that he wanted to talk about
policy and everything else and the big bad Bill and
beautiful Bill and all that he had to go and
so like he's doing this, but it's the worst thing
he did. He didn't give a damn about our country,
just about his own advancement and eat that thing. Call

(32:34):
him Trump a pedophile. That's bad enough, But then to
add insult to injury, he says, I'm going to prove
it in the future. He just served up the Democrats
gigantic craps, the know whage they're all going to gladly
eating and you're gonna be spreading that around. So the
rest of his four years three years.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Well escape, I can just tell you this, and this
you can take to the bank. Trump's pop advisors felt,
I gotta be care for how I couch this that
quote and this is what was said. That he didn't
that that Elon didn't know his place, that he would

(33:10):
always tell Rubio what to do, jd Vance what to do,
Lutnick what to do. Bestn't what to do, heg Seth
what to do? Now you know again, Musk would defend
himself and say, well, I had a portfolio from Trump
to cut all of this waste, fraud and abuse in
every department, in every agency. And nobody wants to cut

(33:32):
in their own agency. Everybody wants to cut in another agency.
So I'm just gonna, you know, to be fair to Elon.
But you know, you're mentioning how he saw himself as
a co president. They felt that they resented it, and
they kept telling the president this, Hey, you know, this
guy thinks he's your equal. This guy thinks that we
answer to him and to you, not just to you,

(33:56):
and we don't like it because you're the you're the president.
You appoint at us, you were elected, you won. Yes,
he helped, but nobody elected him. So there was a
sense in the that's why there was Look, I'm telling you,
there was relief when he left last Friday. They're like, oh,
they admit, he's a great guy in terms of he's

(34:17):
a phenomenal worker. He found a lot of waste, fraud
and abuse. They say, he put together a very impressive team.
They go, look, he's got tremendous talents. No one denies that,
but they were relieved when they say when he left,
You're like, okay, because you don't have this egomaniac who
thinks he's co president meddling in everybody's internal affairs in business.

(34:41):
So it goes exactly to what you're saying, Skippy. Now.
I don't know if you've seen Bannon lately now, but
Bannon now has come out and said that Trump should
and I think Bannon's going too far, but you may agree,
you may disagree. Bannon now says that Trump should revoke
Elon's visa or sorry, his citizenship. My bat that Bannon

(35:03):
should that Trump should revoke Elon Musk's citizenship and basically
kick him back to South Africa. That Musk, he believes,
is a globalist trader who wanted to infiltrate the Trump administration,
and that now he's doing tremendous damage to the movement,

(35:24):
to the presidency and to the country, and that he
basically now says, you know what, the guy's a snake.
Revoke his citizenship, kick him out now. I personally think
that's going way too far. I mean, maybe don't have
much to do with him. Maybe keep him at arm's length.

(35:45):
If you could patch things up, I think it would
be good for the country or maybe on a superficial level,
but don't ever bring him back into the administration and
hopefully stop you know, attacking each other. I don't think
we should kick him out of there. But this is
how badly burned Bannon feels, and he says, this is

(36:06):
how badly Musk has burned Trump and the administration. Final
word to you, Skippy.

Speaker 7 (36:13):
Well, bottom line is his own father. Don't talk to him.
That's somet of tells a lot. And maybe he knows
he spawned a snake. I don't. I don't he could
ever make up these people. They must be listening to
that when you're watching to many soap operas.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
There's no way.

Speaker 7 (36:27):
So what he said about Trump Colnam a pedophile and
saying I'm going to prove it, he just gave a
ton of ammunition to the Democrats and that's they're just
going to be expue it. It's all craziness. There's no way.
How could you trust this guy?

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Be honestly, that's you know, that's exactly that. That's I
would I would feel the exact same way publicly if
some someone calls me a pedophile, I'm like, and how
do we fix this relationship now? Okay, for the good
of the country. And you know, okay, fine, you know
I'll talk to you if I see you in public,
I'll shake your hand. I'm not gonna wage a vendetta

(37:03):
against you, so superficially we can patch things up. But
I would never trust this guy again. Basically, Yeah, let's
not take any more of his calls, you know, I mean,
you know, what are your opinion on Elon Hope. He
has a nice life. I wish him all the best,
but I would never trust him again.