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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number. I just want to quickly bounce off
of Josh's previous call. Josh from reading it's really heartbreaking
talking about him and you know his young partner and
how she works, he works, and they're both working and
money just keeps getting taken out of their account bills, taxes,
(00:24):
they just and they can barely make ends meet, both
of them working living in Massachusetts, and they're literally hand
to mouth, check to check. And just so that everybody
knows Mora Healy, there are now four hundred thousand illegal
aliens in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Remember we're only a
(00:47):
population of seven million, four hundred thousand illegals. Every illegal
alien family receives a hundred and eighty six thousand dollars
every year in taxpayer funded benefits. So to poor Josh
(01:09):
and his wonderful, you know partner, A lot of those taxes,
a bulk of those taxes are literally being used for
thirty thousand dollars to give in housing vouchers to illegal
so they can buy, you know, get rent, get get
rental apartments, four thousand dollars in EBT cash every single
(01:31):
month to get free healthcare, free cell phones. I mean,
I could go on and on and on five hundred
dollars every month just to help them with their own food,
free cable. This is what you're paying for. This is
what I mean when I say we have to beat
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Healy in the next year's election, like I don't know
if we can survive another four years. I'm serious. And
if you can't beat this record, then I'm sorry. The
Republican Party is completely useless, completely useless. Six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight. So I just
want to read this. This is from five oh eight.
(02:16):
You can text the coooner Man seven zero four seven
zero and he's referring to Josh as well, Jeff, all
of these people who are talking about the state of
our economy, job availability, taxes. It is so sad, especially
when you consider how the illegals are getting everything for free.
(02:38):
We are paying for their comfort and security. Massachusetts could
be a place where everyone has enough of everything if
it wasn't for Mora Healey's sanctuary state policy. What is
her end game, question mark? What is her motivation to
(02:59):
keep pampering these illegals? Why does it not bother her
that our constituents are suffering. You can hear it in
the people who call in. That's the question. Why does
this woman not give a damn about her fellow citizens
(03:20):
and constituents? And I think to me, it's all about power.
They have sold their souls for power. Sheldon insituate. Thanks
for holding Sheldon, and welcome.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Good morning, Jeff, Hi Sheldon.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I called to talk about the economy, but I totally
agree with you. We need one candidate going into next year,
not fighting amongst them about minute differences. We need one
Republican candidate next year, Sheldon.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Let me ask you this. I want to do this
almost as an informal poll, and if people can't call in,
which is fine, please email me or text the show
and let me know. Would you like me to do
a debate two hours? There's three of them. I will
be fair, give each equal time. Everybody can listen, and
then you decide who you want to be our candidate.
(04:12):
Would you like me to do that? Probably in December
early December.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Absolutely. That's brilliant, Jeff. But that's that's all the focus
on one person.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
But I.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Called to talk about the economy, and I'm a sales
rep for furniture companies that manufacture goods here in Actually
our factories are all in Mississippi. The issue is with tariffs.
Tariffs are actually now just starting to hit our cost.
They went into effect in July August, September because they
were delayed and there was a lot of negotiation. But
(04:44):
they're now hitting our cost and we're running out of
inventory on components the Unfortunately we can't buy in America,
things like fabric and leather. Mills that used to make
fabric in Lawrence and Maldon, they're all gone because of
overregulation by former administrations. Trump has an opportunity to help
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the American manufacturer succeed and win the battle. The issue
is that we're paying those tariffs on the components that
we can't get here. And I understand that he's trying
to write thirty five years of issues or more issues
that have been called by previous administrations. The problem is
that most American consumers say, why, I don't want to
(05:28):
have to pay that burden. I want to do well,
I want to live a better life. I want to
live the great American dream. So in my opinion, he
could help these domestic manufacturers if he said to them, listen,
five years from now, you need to be buying those
components from America because we can't snap our fingers and
put fabric mills and leather mills and reclinary mechanism plants
(05:51):
back in America. It's not going to happen overnight. It
can happen, but we need some kind of either a
tax credit dollar for dollar for every component that we
have to pay a tariff on, get a tax credit
that would allow us to reduce our costs because we're
having to raise prices just like all the other people,
because we're paying more for it. Here's the point where
(06:13):
you may start to disagree with me. You just talked
about the four hundred thousand illegals that are here in
Massachusetts hiding in the system because more Healy's allowing it.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
We will need.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Workers in this country. And this is where Donald Trump
could become the next Abraham Lincoln. In my opinion. He's
gotten rid of all the bad characters. And there's news
stories about him tearing families apart, and I'm sure that
may be happening, may not be, it's just maybe the news.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
But we're sheldy. Can you do me a favor. I'm
up against the hard break. I want you to finish
your thought and not be rushed. Six one seven two six,
six sixty eight, sixty eight is the number. Okay, Sheldon,
he's in. You know, he's obviously he's got his ear
to the ground. He works in business, he's a salesman.
(07:05):
He says, we need to have much more of a
transition period if we want to undo thirty five years
of globalism and unfair trade. These tariffs are making things
a lot more expensive, at least in his industry. And
Trump now at least has to give out tax credits
or something to offset because the costs are going up
(07:26):
and up. And then Sheldon said on immigration, on deportation,
Trump can be the new Lincoln. And then we got
cut off because of the break. Sheldon, please pick up
where you left off.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
So, Jeff, you talked about four hundred thousand people being
here in Massachusetts that are basically feeding off the system.
They're hiding, they're not they're probably not paying income tax.
They're just taking from the system. We will need workers
in the factories that I represent down in the South
and in the Midwest and all over this country. In
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my opinion. Yes, they're here illegally. There are a good
majority of them that are a good percentage of them
that are here to do harm, terrorism, etc. But there's
also a good percentage of people that are coming here
trying to get the American dream. And know they didn't
come in through the front door correctly, But here's a
place where Trump could say, you know what, you didn't
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come in the right way. We're going to give you
an opportunity to work towards citizenship, whether it be five
ten years down the road. If you keep your nose clean,
don't get as much as a speeding ticket, We're going
to give you citizenship at some point down the road.
And if you do get a speeding ticket or commit
a crime, you're gone. You're out of the country. You're
not going to prison here, We're not going to pay
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for you.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
You're gone.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
But those people that he gave that opportunity to, this
is where he could become the next Lincoln. Those people
would tell their kids and their grandkids, Donald Trump gave
me the opportunity to come to this country and become
a citizen of the greatest country in the world world.
I know we're not big fans of amnesty. And I
don't know if you call this amnesty or what you
(09:05):
call it, but we're living in a different world now
and we need to play by different tactics in my opinions.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Well, Sheldon, look, let me ask you this before we
besides talking about the amnesty issue. Elon Musk, I can
play you the cut. I don't want to waste your time.
Elon Musk at a major summit yesterday said in about
ten to fifteen years, AI and automation are going to
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dominate so much of our economy that for most people
his words, not mine, working will become an option. Sorry,
working will be optional, meaning that it's going to be
hard for people to find jobs in the future because
everything is going towards robotics, automation AI already. Now you're
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hearing story after story, and I'm not talking one hundred layoffs,
you know, or hundreds of job I'm talking tens and
tens of thousands. In some of the biggest companies and
firms across the economy. People are losing their jobs to AI.
My sister in law, who's a brilliant communications director. She
lives in Arizona, lost her job because they went to AI.
(10:17):
And you know she's got two graduate degrees, thirty years experience.
I could go on and on, but I mean a
very impressive resume and just a phenomenal communications director gone gone,
and she's finding it hard to find work because everybody's
converting to AI. My point is this, Sheldon, I think
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we're living in a different world where we don't need
low skill we labor anymore or not as we used to,
because we live in a high tech, highly automated AI economy.
And in fact now it's the opposite what now policymakers
are looking at. Not today, but in ten fifteen years.
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If you've got forty to fifty sixty percent of your
population that just aren't working because computers have taken over
everything or artificial intelligence or automation, you're gonna have to
give them a universal basic income. Like whether we like
it or not. People have to eat, people have to
get healthcare, people have to have a roof over their head.
(11:24):
So what I'm saying is, I don't know if we're
going to need all these workers, Sheldon, what we're being told.
You may disagree, you may know better, but people like
Elon are saying, no, the future is not in more workers,
it's in less workers, what say you.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I listened to that conference yesterday and he said some
very shocking things, talked about not having currency, and it
was a really interesting conference. He's a brilliant man. I
can't argue with him. And I agree that down the
road AI is going to take a much bigger role.
But there is a bridge to that. There have to
be people to build those those robots that are going
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to take So there is a bridge, and if we
start thinking about it and working on it now, yes,
that's what we need to do. But these people that
are just now basically getting a universal income for doing nothing,
let's give them a job. Let's help have them help
build the bridge to get to AI and make it
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logical so that we don't get there in ten fifteen
years and say, oh, shoot, we have to pay all
these people. Now, let's make it work to get to
that point. And I think that's where Trump needs to
step up and say, hey, ten fifteen years from now,
there's going to be a lot of AI, but let's
talk about how we're going to get there instead of
getting there and then having a complete mess on our hands.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Sheldon a very interesting thought provoking call. I got to say, Sheldon,
thank you very much for that call. Look, I can
just say two things very quick. Number one, I think
we have enough Native American workers. I don't think we
need to rely on illegals. You know this, like I
don't buy this we have a worker shortage. We don't.
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In fact, we have millions of American Native born or
you know American workers who are just they've given up.
They're not in the labor force, they've just literally given up.
So let's give our own people jobs before we stalk
talking about giving illegals jobs, not to me or foreigners jobs.
That's number one. Number Two, we need an industrial policy.
(13:33):
I know it's not fashionable to say it among conservatives
and stuff, but look what you're talking about, Sheldon, is
to rebuild our plants, our mills. We need an industrial policy,
and just super quick. I had no idea. I thought
we were still weaning ourselves off of China. I guess
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we're not. Do you know that most of what we
have in our medicine cabinets still even after COVID is
made in China. The components of it, I'm talking, you know, aspirin,
whatever you know, anti allergy medication, whatever it is. Most
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of those components are still made in China. Anti epilepsy
drugs made in China. Much of our insulin made in China.
I'm type two diabetic. Now, God forbid, if we get
into an economic or trade war with China, what are
we going to do? So what They're going to cut
off the insulin? And I'm serious you how many type
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two diabetics we have? Well, so we're making ourselves so
dependent on China. We need an industrial policy. There are
certain things like pharmaceuticals, life and death. You know, without insulin,
the cooner man's dead. I mean, I'm not saying overnight,
but you know, over you know, my sugar level spiking
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and spiking and spiking, and eventually, i you know, my
liver gives out or my heart or whatever. What I'm
saying is certain drugs, certain medications, and yes, certain industries
are so necessary to the survival of the United States,
to the independence of the United States. We need an
industrial policy. And that's why on that I'm with Sheldon,
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not on amnesty for illegals. But when he says, you know, hey,
we can't just you know, in two weeks you start
raising tariffs. We need some help, so we've got to
have an industrial policy. To me, I'm sorry, I don't
care what the Wall Street Journal says. Six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Scott in Northend, Over,
(15:47):
Thanks for holding Scott, and welcome.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Good morning, Jeff High Scott time listener, first time caller.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Welcome, Welcome Scott.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
We have to get back to the econ me and
Trump being underwater supposedly, and that's all coming from the Democrats,
the propaganda media. We don't have an honest media. The
administration tries to get the word out, but you get
Best in and you get and you get Miller on
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a couple of spots here and there. It's not enough.
Like you said, the President needs to get out and
address the nation and tell them how well we're doing,
tell them that this is a democratic problem, that the
Blue states are the ones that are underwater. And it
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has a lot to do with the sanctuary cities, high taxes,
all the all the electric you know, regulations against everything.
Our own state just just denying that gas line. That's
a big reason why are energy builds are so high.
(17:02):
And you know the ministration they're trying to do it.
But you know, you get the positive reports on CNBC.
How many people watch that, you know, a spot here
and there on Fox Newsmax. Not many people see it.
They need to get the message out more. And as
far as the inflation, we know what happened when COVID came.
(17:24):
You know, we had the.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
They buried us. No really, look, we never have really
recovered yet from COVID six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight. Mark in Milton, Thanks for holding Mark,
and welcome good jet.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
My pleasure problem.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Overall, the problem with the economy is actual economics, and
you've touched on it a number of times, as have
many callers. But I'd like to highlight what two governors
of Massachusetts have done more. And I believe she's actually
backing off on her claim when she was getting reelected
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about how she stopped two gas lines. So she's already
backing off on that. But her legislative actions have driven
utility costs up. I don't know if most people remember,
but when Mitt Romney brought in Romneycare, which was the
precursor Tombacare, prices of health insurance, Okay, health insurance, not
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health treatments skyrocketed. It was double digits into the twenties
for several years. So in both of these cases, supply
is being affected. In Romney's case, he mandated a supply,
so the suppliers of that insurance said, hey, we can
charge more, and they did in the least case by
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restricting and then adding on pricing again a price increase.
Here's where we are currently twenty million illegals over Biden's term.
How many other illegals prior to that? At least twenty million.
I feel there's somewhere between forty and sixty million illegals.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
You're dead on, Mark, You're dead on. So let's just
say forty just to be super conservative. Okay, let's say
minimum for Let's just say forty million to be You're right,
I think it's as high as sixty, but just for
the sake of argument, say forty million.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Keep going Mark, Okay, so forty million. I know it's
not an option. But when people go to the grocery store,
they're bidding on products. So when Lays potato chips can
sell a crapload of Lays potato chips, their demand goes up.
And what happens to their price.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
It goes up.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Same with beef. Same with beef. When so many more
people are buying beef, the demand for beef goes up.
Bo you mentioned housing. Of course, how can people who
have to pay for it out of their own pocket
compete with people who don't have to pay for it
out of their own pocket? Prices go up. I'm not
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an economics professor, and I only took a couple rudimentric
courses in college. But in order to fix the economy
so that people like you and I who work hard
make reasonable money can prosper. So our children, mine are
a little older than yours. Both have houses, and they've
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got great jobs. Wives have great jobs, YadA, YadA, YadA,
and they're scraping by. We have to remove the I'm
going to call it the fake demand. That's what I
called it when Mitt.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Romney, Oh you held it honestly, genius. No, I'm really,
I'm serious, genius, absolute genius. You're right. It's basics, and
I love the way you laid it out so simply,
so clearly, so coherently, so cogently. It's supply and demand.
It's really it's not simple. And Mark I don't want
to put words in your mouth, but basically, to even
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simplify just a todd more, what you're really saying is, look, Jeff,
let's leave out the sixty million o' gott to score
low forty million, remove fourteen million people from the United
States who shouldn't be here. What's going to happen to prices?
It's going to go down, Mark, Am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Exactly? Demand will drop, prices will go down to a
reasonable And let's talk more about illegals. I don't subscribe
to a minimum wage being a living wage. But why
is minimum wage at fifteen? Why isn't it eighteen or
twenty or twenty five? Let me tell you why. It's
because illegals have continuously and continually accepted jobs at lower wages,
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so that you know that every restaurant employee is underpaid.
Every landscaping, every manufacturing, everything about illegals damages the economy.
There is nothing that illegals do that improves the economy.
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There's nothing. There's not one thing.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
And on top of the crime that they bring, the diseases,
I mean, I could go on and on all the
other social problems that they bring with them. I mean Mark,
you're on fire. Mark, You're right, And this is the
other thing. And I'm going to have to end it
at this mark, but just because I want to get
to Ann and Hull, but a masterclass. Okay, But think
about it. It's not just that they work under the
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table and they're undercutting wages right for everybody else. They're
also getting one hundred and eighty six thousand dollars per family.
I mean, ay, yea, yay, So they're making two hundred
to two and whatever, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
a year when you combine all the benefits and what
they're making under the table. That's why they're driving around
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inautiful pickup trucks. That's why you see them with two
carts of food. That's why you see them with brand
new sneakers. That's why you see them with all these
beautiful iPhones. And you're like, I'm struggling and they're on
Easy Street. What the hell's going on? And in Hull,
I hate to do this to you, and you've got
less than one minute go.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I only have a question.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yes, I was wondering if Trump derangement syndrome is covered
under Obamacare and should I do a debate with the
three Republican candidates for governor? You like it? Yes, I
(23:43):
just need a yes or a no. Yes, all right,
thank you, and I think most of you want one.
So I'm going to talk to Sandy. She's going to
reach out to the campaigns and we'll set up a
day in a time. It'll be at least a two
hour debate.
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number. I just want to quickly bounce off
of Josh's previous call. Josh from reading it's really heartbreaking
talking about him and you know his young partner and
how she works, he works, and they're both working and
money just keeps getting taken out of their account bills, taxes,
(00:24):
they just and they can barely make ends meet, both
of them working living in Massachusetts, and they're literally hand
to mouth, check to check. And just so that everybody
knows Mora Healy, there are now four hundred thousand illegal
aliens in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Remember we're only a
(00:47):
population of seven million, four hundred thousand illegals. Every illegal
alien family receives a hundred and eighty six thousand dollars
every year in taxpayer funded benefits. So to poor Josh
(01:09):
and his wonderful, you know partner, A lot of those taxes,
a bulk of those taxes are literally being used for
thirty thousand dollars to give in housing vouchers to illegal
so they can buy, you know, get rent, get get
rental apartments, four thousand dollars in EBT cash every single
(01:31):
month to get free healthcare, free cell phones. I mean,
I could go on and on and on five hundred
dollars every month just to help them with their own food,
free cable. This is what you're paying for. This is
what I mean when I say we have to beat
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Healy in the next year's election, like I don't know
if we can survive another four years. I'm serious. And
if you can't beat this record, then I'm sorry. The
Republican Party is completely useless, completely useless. Six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight. So I just
want to read this. This is from five oh eight.
(02:16):
You can text the coooner Man seven zero four seven
zero and he's referring to Josh as well, Jeff, all
of these people who are talking about the state of
our economy, job availability, taxes. It is so sad, especially
when you consider how the illegals are getting everything for free.
(02:38):
We are paying for their comfort and security. Massachusetts could
be a place where everyone has enough of everything if
it wasn't for Mora Healey's sanctuary state policy. What is
her end game, question mark? What is her motivation to
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keep pampering these illegals? Why does it not bother her
that our constituents are suffering. You can hear it in
the people who call in. That's the question. Why does
this woman not give a damn about her fellow citizens
(03:20):
and constituents? And I think to me, it's all about power.
They have sold their souls for power. Sheldon insituate. Thanks
for holding Sheldon, and welcome.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Good morning, Jeff, Hi Sheldon.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I called to talk about the economy, but I totally
agree with you. We need one candidate going into next year,
not fighting amongst them about minute differences. We need one
Republican candidate next year, Sheldon.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Let me ask you this. I want to do this
almost as an informal poll, and if people can't call in,
which is fine, please email me or text the show
and let me know. Would you like me to do
a debate two hours? There's three of them. I will
be fair, give each equal time. Everybody can listen, and
then you decide who you want to be our candidate.
(04:12):
Would you like me to do that? Probably in December
early December.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Absolutely. That's brilliant, Jeff. But that's that's all the focus
on one person.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
But I.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Called to talk about the economy, and I'm a sales
rep for furniture companies that manufacture goods here in Actually
our factories are all in Mississippi. The issue is with tariffs.
Tariffs are actually now just starting to hit our cost.
They went into effect in July August, September because they
were delayed and there was a lot of negotiation. But
(04:44):
they're now hitting our cost and we're running out of
inventory on components the Unfortunately we can't buy in America,
things like fabric and leather. Mills that used to make
fabric in Lawrence and Maldon, they're all gone because of
overregulation by former administrations. Trump has an opportunity to help
(05:05):
the American manufacturer succeed and win the battle. The issue
is that we're paying those tariffs on the components that
we can't get here. And I understand that he's trying
to write thirty five years of issues or more issues
that have been called by previous administrations. The problem is
that most American consumers say, why, I don't want to
(05:28):
have to pay that burden. I want to do well,
I want to live a better life. I want to
live the great American dream. So in my opinion, he
could help these domestic manufacturers if he said to them, listen,
five years from now, you need to be buying those
components from America because we can't snap our fingers and
put fabric mills and leather mills and reclinary mechanism plants
(05:51):
back in America. It's not going to happen overnight. It
can happen, but we need some kind of either a
tax credit dollar for dollar for every component that we
have to pay a tariff on, get a tax credit
that would allow us to reduce our costs because we're
having to raise prices just like all the other people,
because we're paying more for it. Here's the point where
(06:13):
you may start to disagree with me. You just talked
about the four hundred thousand illegals that are here in
Massachusetts hiding in the system because more Healy's allowing it.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
We will need.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Workers in this country. And this is where Donald Trump
could become the next Abraham Lincoln. In my opinion. He's
gotten rid of all the bad characters. And there's news
stories about him tearing families apart, and I'm sure that
may be happening, may not be, it's just maybe the news.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
But we're sheldy. Can you do me a favor. I'm
up against the hard break. I want you to finish
your thought and not be rushed. Six one seven two six,
six sixty eight, sixty eight is the number. Okay, Sheldon,
he's in. You know, he's obviously he's got his ear
to the ground. He works in business, he's a salesman.
(07:05):
He says, we need to have much more of a
transition period if we want to undo thirty five years
of globalism and unfair trade. These tariffs are making things
a lot more expensive, at least in his industry. And
Trump now at least has to give out tax credits
or something to offset because the costs are going up
(07:26):
and up. And then Sheldon said on immigration, on deportation,
Trump can be the new Lincoln. And then we got
cut off because of the break. Sheldon, please pick up
where you left off.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
So, Jeff, you talked about four hundred thousand people being
here in Massachusetts that are basically feeding off the system.
They're hiding, they're not they're probably not paying income tax.
They're just taking from the system. We will need workers
in the factories that I represent down in the South
and in the Midwest and all over this country. In
(08:01):
my opinion. Yes, they're here illegally. There are a good
majority of them that are a good percentage of them
that are here to do harm, terrorism, etc. But there's
also a good percentage of people that are coming here
trying to get the American dream. And know they didn't
come in through the front door correctly, But here's a
place where Trump could say, you know what, you didn't
(08:22):
come in the right way. We're going to give you
an opportunity to work towards citizenship, whether it be five
ten years down the road. If you keep your nose clean,
don't get as much as a speeding ticket, We're going
to give you citizenship at some point down the road.
And if you do get a speeding ticket or commit
a crime, you're gone. You're out of the country. You're
not going to prison here, We're not going to pay
(08:43):
for you.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
You're gone.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
But those people that he gave that opportunity to, this
is where he could become the next Lincoln. Those people
would tell their kids and their grandkids, Donald Trump gave
me the opportunity to come to this country and become
a citizen of the greatest country in the world world.
I know we're not big fans of amnesty. And I
don't know if you call this amnesty or what you
(09:05):
call it, but we're living in a different world now
and we need to play by different tactics in my opinions.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Well, Sheldon, look, let me ask you this before we
besides talking about the amnesty issue. Elon Musk, I can
play you the cut. I don't want to waste your time.
Elon Musk at a major summit yesterday said in about
ten to fifteen years, AI and automation are going to
(09:32):
dominate so much of our economy that for most people
his words, not mine, working will become an option. Sorry,
working will be optional, meaning that it's going to be
hard for people to find jobs in the future because
everything is going towards robotics, automation AI already. Now you're
(09:55):
hearing story after story, and I'm not talking one hundred layoffs,
you know, or hundreds of job I'm talking tens and
tens of thousands. In some of the biggest companies and
firms across the economy. People are losing their jobs to AI.
My sister in law, who's a brilliant communications director. She
lives in Arizona, lost her job because they went to AI.
(10:17):
And you know she's got two graduate degrees, thirty years experience.
I could go on and on, but I mean a
very impressive resume and just a phenomenal communications director gone gone,
and she's finding it hard to find work because everybody's
converting to AI. My point is this, Sheldon, I think
(10:38):
we're living in a different world where we don't need
low skill we labor anymore or not as we used to,
because we live in a high tech, highly automated AI economy.
And in fact now it's the opposite what now policymakers
are looking at. Not today, but in ten fifteen years.
(11:00):
If you've got forty to fifty sixty percent of your
population that just aren't working because computers have taken over
everything or artificial intelligence or automation, you're gonna have to
give them a universal basic income. Like whether we like
it or not. People have to eat, people have to
get healthcare, people have to have a roof over their head.
(11:24):
So what I'm saying is, I don't know if we're
going to need all these workers, Sheldon, what we're being told.
You may disagree, you may know better, but people like
Elon are saying, no, the future is not in more workers,
it's in less workers, what say you.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I listened to that conference yesterday and he said some
very shocking things, talked about not having currency, and it
was a really interesting conference. He's a brilliant man. I
can't argue with him. And I agree that down the
road AI is going to take a much bigger role.
But there is a bridge to that. There have to
be people to build those those robots that are going
(12:04):
to take So there is a bridge, and if we
start thinking about it and working on it now, yes,
that's what we need to do. But these people that
are just now basically getting a universal income for doing nothing,
let's give them a job. Let's help have them help
build the bridge to get to AI and make it
(12:27):
logical so that we don't get there in ten fifteen
years and say, oh, shoot, we have to pay all
these people. Now, let's make it work to get to
that point. And I think that's where Trump needs to
step up and say, hey, ten fifteen years from now,
there's going to be a lot of AI, but let's
talk about how we're going to get there instead of
getting there and then having a complete mess on our hands.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Sheldon a very interesting thought provoking call. I got to say, Sheldon,
thank you very much for that call. Look, I can
just say two things very quick. Number one, I think
we have enough Native American workers. I don't think we
need to rely on illegals. You know this, like I
don't buy this we have a worker shortage. We don't.
(13:10):
In fact, we have millions of American Native born or
you know American workers who are just they've given up.
They're not in the labor force, they've just literally given up.
So let's give our own people jobs before we stalk
talking about giving illegals jobs, not to me or foreigners jobs.
That's number one. Number Two, we need an industrial policy.
(13:33):
I know it's not fashionable to say it among conservatives
and stuff, but look what you're talking about, Sheldon, is
to rebuild our plants, our mills. We need an industrial policy,
and just super quick. I had no idea. I thought
we were still weaning ourselves off of China. I guess
(13:53):
we're not. Do you know that most of what we
have in our medicine cabinets still even after COVID is
made in China. The components of it, I'm talking, you know, aspirin,
whatever you know, anti allergy medication, whatever it is. Most
(14:16):
of those components are still made in China. Anti epilepsy
drugs made in China. Much of our insulin made in China.
I'm type two diabetic. Now, God forbid, if we get
into an economic or trade war with China, what are
we going to do? So what They're going to cut
off the insulin? And I'm serious you how many type
(14:39):
two diabetics we have? Well, so we're making ourselves so
dependent on China. We need an industrial policy. There are
certain things like pharmaceuticals, life and death. You know, without insulin,
the cooner man's dead. I mean, I'm not saying overnight,
but you know, over you know, my sugar level spiking
(15:00):
and spiking and spiking, and eventually, i you know, my
liver gives out or my heart or whatever. What I'm
saying is certain drugs, certain medications, and yes, certain industries
are so necessary to the survival of the United States,
to the independence of the United States. We need an
industrial policy. And that's why on that I'm with Sheldon,
(15:23):
not on amnesty for illegals. But when he says, you know, hey,
we can't just you know, in two weeks you start
raising tariffs. We need some help, so we've got to
have an industrial policy. To me, I'm sorry, I don't
care what the Wall Street Journal says. Six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Scott in Northend, Over,
(15:47):
Thanks for holding Scott, and welcome.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Good morning, Jeff High Scott time listener, first time caller.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Welcome, Welcome Scott.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
We have to get back to the econ me and
Trump being underwater supposedly, and that's all coming from the Democrats,
the propaganda media. We don't have an honest media. The
administration tries to get the word out, but you get
Best in and you get and you get Miller on
(16:18):
a couple of spots here and there. It's not enough.
Like you said, the President needs to get out and
address the nation and tell them how well we're doing,
tell them that this is a democratic problem, that the
Blue states are the ones that are underwater. And it
(16:38):
has a lot to do with the sanctuary cities, high taxes,
all the all the electric you know, regulations against everything.
Our own state just just denying that gas line. That's
a big reason why are energy builds are so high.
(17:02):
And you know the ministration they're trying to do it.
But you know, you get the positive reports on CNBC.
How many people watch that, you know, a spot here
and there on Fox Newsmax. Not many people see it.
They need to get the message out more. And as
far as the inflation, we know what happened when COVID came.
(17:24):
You know, we had the.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
They buried us. No really, look, we never have really
recovered yet from COVID six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight. Mark in Milton, Thanks for holding Mark,
and welcome good jet.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
My pleasure problem.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Overall, the problem with the economy is actual economics, and
you've touched on it a number of times, as have
many callers. But I'd like to highlight what two governors
of Massachusetts have done more. And I believe she's actually
backing off on her claim when she was getting reelected
(18:06):
about how she stopped two gas lines. So she's already
backing off on that. But her legislative actions have driven
utility costs up. I don't know if most people remember,
but when Mitt Romney brought in Romneycare, which was the
precursor Tombacare, prices of health insurance, Okay, health insurance, not
(18:28):
health treatments skyrocketed. It was double digits into the twenties
for several years. So in both of these cases, supply
is being affected. In Romney's case, he mandated a supply,
so the suppliers of that insurance said, hey, we can
charge more, and they did in the least case by
(18:51):
restricting and then adding on pricing again a price increase.
Here's where we are currently twenty million illegals over Biden's term.
How many other illegals prior to that? At least twenty million.
I feel there's somewhere between forty and sixty million illegals.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
You're dead on, Mark, You're dead on. So let's just
say forty just to be super conservative. Okay, let's say
minimum for Let's just say forty million to be You're right,
I think it's as high as sixty, but just for
the sake of argument, say forty million.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Keep going Mark, Okay, so forty million. I know it's
not an option. But when people go to the grocery store,
they're bidding on products. So when Lays potato chips can
sell a crapload of Lays potato chips, their demand goes up.
And what happens to their price.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
It goes up.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Same with beef. Same with beef. When so many more
people are buying beef, the demand for beef goes up.
Bo you mentioned housing. Of course, how can people who
have to pay for it out of their own pocket
compete with people who don't have to pay for it
out of their own pocket? Prices go up. I'm not
(20:08):
an economics professor, and I only took a couple rudimentric
courses in college. But in order to fix the economy
so that people like you and I who work hard
make reasonable money can prosper. So our children, mine are
a little older than yours. Both have houses, and they've
(20:31):
got great jobs. Wives have great jobs, YadA, YadA, YadA,
and they're scraping by. We have to remove the I'm
going to call it the fake demand. That's what I
called it when Mitt.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Romney, Oh you held it honestly, genius. No, I'm really,
I'm serious, genius, absolute genius. You're right. It's basics, and
I love the way you laid it out so simply,
so clearly, so coherently, so cogently. It's supply and demand.
It's really it's not simple. And Mark I don't want
to put words in your mouth, but basically, to even
(21:05):
simplify just a todd more, what you're really saying is, look, Jeff,
let's leave out the sixty million o' gott to score
low forty million, remove fourteen million people from the United
States who shouldn't be here. What's going to happen to prices?
It's going to go down, Mark, Am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Exactly? Demand will drop, prices will go down to a
reasonable And let's talk more about illegals. I don't subscribe
to a minimum wage being a living wage. But why
is minimum wage at fifteen? Why isn't it eighteen or
twenty or twenty five? Let me tell you why. It's
because illegals have continuously and continually accepted jobs at lower wages,
(21:52):
so that you know that every restaurant employee is underpaid.
Every landscaping, every manufacturing, everything about illegals damages the economy.
There is nothing that illegals do that improves the economy.
(22:12):
There's nothing. There's not one thing.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
And on top of the crime that they bring, the diseases,
I mean, I could go on and on all the
other social problems that they bring with them. I mean Mark,
you're on fire. Mark, You're right, And this is the
other thing. And I'm going to have to end it
at this mark, but just because I want to get
to Ann and Hull, but a masterclass. Okay, But think
about it. It's not just that they work under the
(22:39):
table and they're undercutting wages right for everybody else. They're
also getting one hundred and eighty six thousand dollars per family.
I mean, ay, yea, yay, So they're making two hundred
to two and whatever, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
a year when you combine all the benefits and what
they're making under the table. That's why they're driving around
(22:59):
inautiful pickup trucks. That's why you see them with two
carts of food. That's why you see them with brand
new sneakers. That's why you see them with all these
beautiful iPhones. And you're like, I'm struggling and they're on
Easy Street. What the hell's going on? And in Hull,
I hate to do this to you, and you've got
less than one minute go.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I only have a question.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yes, I was wondering if Trump derangement syndrome is covered
under Obamacare and should I do a debate with the
three Republican candidates for governor? You like it? Yes, I
(23:43):
just need a yes or a no. Yes, all right,
thank you, and I think most of you want one.
So I'm going to talk to Sandy. She's going to
reach out to the campaigns and we'll set up a
day in a time. It'll be at least a two
hour debate.
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